Hi, I have a Pixel 7 Pro without unlocked bootloader. Is it chance to flasch older OTA firmware ? I have from January 2023 but I want to flash Nov 2022. Is it possible?
Just unlock the phone, so that you can flash in proper manner.
DomingoX said:
Hi, I have a Pixel 7 Pro without unlocked bootloader. Is it chance to flasch older OTA firmware ? I have from January 2023 but I want to flash Nov 2022. Is it possible?
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No.
Last question.Is it possible to flash beta and back to older stable firmware ?
DomingoX said:
Last question.Is it possible to flash beta and back to older stable firmware ?
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It's not recommended to go back and fort, let alone downgrading 2 months worth of updates. December was a big update as well, so that's definitely not recommended.
Why go back to November though? Also, you're not going to get much accomplished other than updating without unlocking your bootloader.
Curiousn00b said:
It's not recommended to go back and fort, let alone downgrading 2 months worth of updates. December was a big update as well, so that's definitely not recommended.
Why go back to November though? Also, you're not going to get much accomplished other than updating without unlocking your bootloader.
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I have got pixel from T-mobile US. It is carrier locked. I need back to Nov firmware and use pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.work.oobconfig in adb. So is it possible to back from beta to OTA from Nov without root and OEM unlock ?
DomingoX said:
I have got pixel from T-mobile US. It is carrier locked. I need back to Nov firmware and use pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.work.oobconfig in adb. So is it possible to back from beta to OTA from Nov without root and OEM unlock ?
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Ahhh, I see.
You won't be able to go back versions AFAIK, but from beta to the latest stock, I believe that's possible.
As for being carrier locked, I've seen some people around say that the carrier representatives, some actually help out(depending on what you tell them or maybe you just luck out and get a super helpful representative on the line).
You can flash older updates if you unlock the bootloader, no? Just make sure to format existing data on the phone as well.
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With it being Black Friday, Verizon is selling the Pixel for a great price. I was wondering if it's possible to unlock the bootloader, flash a stock update from Google (not Verizon) to the phone, all while keeping Android Pay and being able to update the day a new update comes out? If this is possible how would I go about it? If I can't have Android Pay I can live without, but will I still be able to have the unlocked bootloader permanently along with the Google updates? Thank you! :good:
tidall said:
With it being Black Friday, Verizon is selling the Pixel for a great price. I was wondering if it's possible to unlock the bootloader, flash a stock update from Google (not Verizon) to the phone, all while keeping Android Pay and being able to update the day a new update comes out? If this is possible how would I go about it? If I can't have Android Pay I can live without, but will I still be able to have the unlocked bootloader permanently along with the Google updates? Thank you! :good:
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No, no, no and no.
bobby janow said:
No, no, no and no.
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Was the bootloader unlock (dePixel8) patched?
Coronado is dead said:
Was the bootloader unlock (dePixel8) patched?
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Not sure, but I believe at some point it will be. This is not the device to buy if you want an unlocked bootloader with root.
I just joined the $240 Verizon Nexus Pixel club and have always unlocked, rooted and used custom Roms for every single device I've bought from Google. If there is an easy way to convert a Verizon Pixel to a Google Pixel I would be all over it. But maybe this is that one time that I'm going to stay stock.
Coronado is dead said:
Was the bootloader unlock (dePixel8) patched?
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No, it hasn't been patched as of the November update. I took the update and unlocked with no problem. http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html Note that it says... "Unexpectedly, dePixel8 was not patched in NDE63X. Have fun". Do it now while you still can.
I can confirm that the Verizon Pixel can be unlocked. I got a 128gb today for $15/month. I have grandfathered unlimited data so this is the first Verizon promo phone I've bought in a while. Unlocked, flashed TWRP, rooted, and enabled tethering.
joshw0000 said:
I can confirm that the Verizon Pixel can be unlocked. I got a 128gb today for $15/month. I have grandfathered unlimited data so this is the first Verizon promo phone I've bought in a while. Unlocked, flashed TWRP, rooted, and enabled tethering.
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So how would one go about doing this? And would you have to relock the bootloader and unroot to update?
Just download and run DePixel8 to unlock.
Your phone should update if you don't flash any roms or mods. But that's no fun. You'll get updates quicker by installing them manually.
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joshw0000 said:
Just download and run DePixel8 to unlock.
Your phone should update if you don't flash any roms or mods. But that's no fun. You'll get updates quicker by installing them manually.
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Just a word of caution if you're going that route.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/how-to/psa-read-relocking-bootloader-t3494614
bobby janow said:
Just a word of caution if you're going that route.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/how-to/psa-read-relocking-bootloader-t3494614
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Yes that's pretty common. Been that way since the original Nexus. You shouldn't ever re-lock unless you're returning for warranty. And if you do if should happen right after you flashed stock firmware.
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joshw0000 said:
Yes that's pretty common. Been that way since the original Nexus. You shouldn't ever re-lock unless you're returning for warranty. And if you do if should happen right after you flashed stock firmware.
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No that's not correct. I unlocked, locked, unlocked and relocked my Nexus 5x recently. I was testing SafetyNet with an unlocked bootloader which failed all the time. So I finally relocked and left it that way. The Verizon Pixel is not like that. I think because you have to use a program to unlock and not just do it in bootloader.
However, you are correct in that you shouldn't relock your bl unless you have flashed the stock firmware, specifically recovery. Relocking and unlocking will wipe everything on your device, sdcard included.
joshw0000 said:
Just download and run DePixel8 to unlock.
Your phone should update if you don't flash any roms or mods. But that's no fun. You'll get updates quicker by installing them manually.
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Will I be able to flash updates all while keeping the bootloader unlocked? Or will updates relock my bootloader and soft brick my phone?
tidall said:
Will I be able to flash updates all while keeping the bootloader unlocked? Or will updates relock my bootloader and soft brick my phone?
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Updates won't relock.
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bobby janow said:
No that's not correct. I unlocked, locked, unlocked and relocked my Nexus 5x recently. I was testing SafetyNet with an unlocked bootloader which failed all the time. So I finally relocked and left it that way. The Verizon Pixel is not like that. I think because you have to use a program to unlock and not just do it in bootloader.
However, you are correct in that you shouldn't relock your bl unless you have flashed the stock firmware, specifically recovery. Relocking and unlocking will wipe everything on your device, sdcard included.
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I don't know for sure but I think the reasoning for not relocking is that Verizon/Google will likely patch the DePixel8 exploit in future builds.
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joshw0000 said:
Just download and run DePixel8 to unlock.
Your phone should update if you don't flash any roms or mods. But that's no fun. You'll get updates quicker by installing them manually.
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Updates won't relock.
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I don't know for sure but I think the reasoning for not relocking is that Verizon/Google will likely patch the DePixel8 exploit in future builds.
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Where will I be able to download updates and how would I flash them? ( sorry for all the questions I haven't had an Android in a while )
tidall said:
Where will I be able to download updates and how would I flash them? ( sorry for all the questions I haven't had an Android in a while )
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Here on XDA. Probably with Fsstboot.
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Here on XDA. Probably with Fsstboot.
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Would I download the Verizon version or just the completely stock Google version?
Hey, I'm sorry for being a total noob at this. I have an unlocked and rooted Verizon Pixel. I'm on 7.1 and I want to update to 7.1.1. How should I go about doing this while keeping root and my unlocked bootloader? Do I just take the OTA? Thanks!
FrostedWaffle said:
Hey, I'm sorry for being a total noob at this. I have an unlocked and rooted Verizon Pixel. I'm on 7.1 and I want to update to 7.1.1. How should I go about doing this while keeping root and my unlocked bootloader? Do I just take the OTA? Thanks!
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Root will stop the update. Since you are a noob I suggest you use Skipsoft toolkit, its in the pixel or pixel XL ROM, kernel....Forum. You tell it to use the latest image and it will ask you if you want to save data. It will flash, TWRP and root in one way step.
Consider waiting until Tuesday, when the January update comes. Save you doing it twice.
And read the tutorials on how to do this manually in case you have trouble later on.
TonikJDK said:
Root will stop the update. Since you are a noob I suggest you use Skipsoft toolkit, its in the pixel or pixel XL ROM, kernel....Forum. You tell it to use the latest image and it will ask you if you want to save data. It will flash, TWRP and root in one way step.
Consider waiting until Tuesday, when the January update comes. Save you doing it twice.
And read the tutorials on how to do this manually in case you have trouble later on.
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Alright, thanks for your help!
Can you use a Verizon bootloader locked Pixel 2 international? With another simcard?
And is it possible to flash an ota file from Google on it and not the Verizon version? Or is that not needed?
Thanks
I'm pretty sure all phones manufactured after a certain year(think it was 2014) were made so they can be used anywhere. As long as it has the necessary bands. You will not be able to flash other firmware, unless the bootloader gets unlocked and root becomes available...
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The Verizon version is EXACTLY the same as the Google version. It is unlocked and will work anywhere in the world. Since software updates come directly from Google you won't have to worry about getting OTA's either.
mikeyinid said:
The Verizon version is EXACTLY the same as the Google version. It is unlocked and will work anywhere in the world. Since software updates come directly from Google you won't have to worry about getting OTA's either.
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It's not quite the same. It is unlocked, but the bootloader cannot be unlocked.
Erik1805 said:
Can you use a Verizon bootloader locked Pixel 2 international? With another simcard?
And is it possible to flash an ota file from Google on it and not the Verizon version? Or is that not needed?
Thanks
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Yes, you can use the Verizon version withe the locked bootloader, internationally. I have one in the EU, running on Vodafone. Runs without issues.
Verizon prevents you from getting over the air updates unless you have an activated Verizon sim and the phone comes with a deactivated Verizon sim pre-installed. When I got mine it was two versions behind and on the September security patch. I tried all sorts of tricks to get it to update with my Vodafone sim, with the Verizon sim, but the best I could get it to do was say there was an update available before it bailed out one me. However, using adb and the Google images for OTA's they provide I was able to flash each update no problem using a USB cable.
Hope this helps!
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mikeyinid said:
The Verizon version is EXACTLY the same as the Google version. It is unlocked and will work anywhere in the world. Since software updates come directly from Google you won't have to worry about getting OTA's either.
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Just an FYI, they are slightly different. The phone itself is carrier unlocked. Any carrier can use the Verizon version just like a non-Verizon version. The difference is the Verizon bootloader is locked down, can't unlock that (unless you got one way early, on 7.1 or something like that). You also only get OTA updates for the Verizon version if you have an active Verizon sim in the phone. Manually updating using the OTA files from Googles website works with ADB, so not a big deal, but makes it a little more manual and technical than it would be otherwise. You'll notice there are different OTA's and different versions used for Verizon's files - keeping them slightly different.
IDroidThere4Iam said:
Yes, you can use the Verizon version withe the locked bootloader, internationally. I have one in the EU, running on Vodafone. Runs without issues.
Verizon prevents you from getting over the air updates unless you have an activated Verizon sim and the phone comes with a deactivated Verizon sim pre-installed. When I got mine it was two versions behind and on the September security patch. I tried all sorts of tricks to get it to update with my Vodafone sim, with the Verizon sim, but the best I could get it to do was say there was an update available before it bailed out one me. However, using adb and the Google images for OTA's they provide I was able to flash each update no problem using a USB cable.
Hope this helps!
Lenny
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Just an FYI, they are slightly different. The phone itself is carrier unlocked. Any carrier can use the Verizon version just like a non-Verizon version. The difference is the Verizon bootloader is locked down, can't unlock that (unless you got one way early, on 7.1 or something like that). You also only get OTA updates for the Verizon version if you have an active Verizon sim in the phone. Manually updating using the OTA files from Googles website works with ADB, so not a big deal, but makes it a little more manual and technical than it would be otherwise. You'll notice there are different OTA's and different versions used for Verizon's files - keeping them slightly different.
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You can't flash images on the Verizon version. The bootloader needs to be unlocked, and that obviously isn't happening. I don't think it matters which sim you have in the Verizon version, you'll get OTA updates no matter what. The phones aren't as different as you guys think. The only reason there are different factory images for the Verizon version is they install Verizon bloat on first boot.
mikeyinid said:
You can't flash images on the Verizon version. The bootloader needs to be unlocked, and that obviously isn't happening. I don't think it matters which sim you have in the Verizon version, you'll get OTA updates no matter what. The phones aren't as different as you guys think. The only reason there are different factory images for the Verizon version is they install Verizon bloat on first boot.
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You can ADB sideload. Did the same this week. No problems. You just cannot flash a another room.
Erik1805 said:
You can ADB sideload. Did the same this week. No problems. You just cannot flash a another room.
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How do you adb sideload with a locked bootloader?
mikeyinid said:
How do you adb sideload with a locked bootloader?
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Used this. Went great.
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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Used this. Went great.
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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Yea, we're talking about two different things.
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Yea, we're talking about two different things.
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Yes thought so. No custom rom flashing for me, thats what you ment
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Yes thought so. No custom rom flashing for me, thats what you ment
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But, I just learned something because I had no idea Google posted the OTA files like that
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Used this. Went great.
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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this is an old post but im trying to see if anyone can help me with this adb sidload. I get an error that footer is wrong and cant get the android P beta to flash. any thoughts?
Hi all, currently running my pixel 2 on latest Dec security patch. 8.1. However due to bug in bootloader (66) unable to unlock the device. I can RMA but still want to know is there any way to revert back OTA update ?
I tried using OTA side load from Recovery but its giving me error saying current timestamp is newer than OTA so failing.
Any tweak to downgrade ?
rohanhole said:
Hi all, currently running my pixel 2 on latest Dec security patch. 8.1. However due to bug in bootloader (66) unable to unlock the device. I can RMA but still want to know is there any way to revert back OTA update ?
I tried using OTA side load from Recovery but its giving me error saying current timestamp is newer than OTA so failing.
Any tweak to downgrade ?
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As far as i know u cant downgrade. Regarding the bug in bootloader unlocking, that has been solved. Restore factory your device and you should be able to unlock bootloader.
infamousvincci said:
As far as i know u cant downgrade. Regarding the bug in bootloader unlocking, that has been solved. Restore factory your device and you should be able to unlock bootloader.
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I tried but facing issue. Its toggling but at the time of flashing fastboot command its saying locked.
I doubt something broke in 66 version of bootloader. That's why wanted to be on previous version to check the solution
rohanhole said:
I tried but facing issue. Its toggling but at the time of flashing fastboot command its saying locked.
I doubt something broke in 66 version of bootloader. That's why wanted to be on previous version to check the solution
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What command are u running? And what is the error that shows
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What command are u running? And what is the error that shows
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Described in https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/68897739#comment119
Read last comments ! You will realise.
rohanhole said:
Described in https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/68897739#comment119
Read last comments ! You will realise.
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Prolly yeah. But i was able to unlock bootloader on 2 pixel 2 phones running 8.1. mine and my fiance. Prolly weird and rare bug
I'm on the March 1st security patch therefor i cannot use unlock method from afaneh92 and i need to downgrade back to Feb 1st or older security patch. Anything has some instruction and links how i can perform this? Looking to pay for root once im downgraded.
You'll need to reflash it.
A Samsung Experience center at Best Buys can do that.
What issues are you having?
blackhawk said:
You'll need to reflash it.
A Samsung Experience center at Best Buys can do that.
What issues are you having?
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No issue but to get root and unlock boot loader i need to downgrade per this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...unlock-for-samsung-us-canada-devices.4215101/