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My Charge is routinely running 275 - 300 MB of RAM even when "idle" and I receive a LOT of warnings that my memory is running low when I'm using Tasker or Evernote. While I use Linux at home on my personal computer, I'm by no means a professional in any real sense of the word. But my layperson's understanding of RAM is that, generally speaking, more is better and allows for a machine to run, boot, etc... faster and more reliably. I've read that the Charge is a RAM wannabe and I know there are phones with much more than is available with this device but does that mean anything for this phone? Should I be using something that will clear more RAM for me or is that just a pipe dream and I have to deal with the lack of RAM by buying a new phone at some later time?
I'm using Tweaked 3.1 and have to say that Dwitheral has made this phone one I'm happy with - my fiancee has the Charge as well and is paranoid about rooting / ROMing, so she is totally stock. Needless to say, her phone sucks eggs and mine doesn't. I'm looking for a replacement but will not do so until Black Friday next year - then I can get a device that's a little "older" for less than $50 that will be a huge improvement over the Charge. In the meantime, with Tweaked 3.1, a Hyperion 3500 mha extended life battery and Tasker, this phone is serviceable. But the high RAM usage nags at me and I'm wondering if this is really an issue and, if so, is there anything to do about it? When I look at running applications in task manager, it is usually none or one, maybe, on occasion, two running applications.
Can someone clarify this for me? Do I need to be concerned and, if so, is there a solution that doesn't start with "Upon entering the Verizon store, ask where the new DNA is located...."
Thanks in advance!
Forget what you know about RAM in Windows, because this isn't Windows. In Linux (and by extension in Android), unused RAM is generally considered to be wasted. The Android low memory killer (LMK) will take care of killing apps and freeing when it needs to make space for other things, and artificially killing stuff is going to make your phone perform worse and use more battery. You need enough free for apps to have room to start without waiting, but not so much that it kills background apps that you want there. You can tweak the LMK, but 275-300MB used (75-100MB free) is pretty close to the sweet spot for this phone.
I guess it is from since of the tweaks I am running, but I usually have an extra 50-80 MB from what you described.
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I recently replaced my first HTC One S (S4 Black, broken) with a new one (S4 Grey). Both were/are running HTCs stock JB unrooted. However, on the new phone I've been having some severe performance issues lately.
The phone is very, very slow (at times), for example when I unlock it the screen might take several seconds to light up (the image is displayed, but no backlight), and the pin input keyboard is very, very unresponsive - some times I can input the entire pin code before the phone seems to register the input, other times a number or two is even skipped/not registered. Opening apps ad running games is also slower than it has been, animations lag frequently (opening/closing the notification drawer, for example), and text input is also laggy. Battery life is also noticeably worse than on my old phone.
My Antutu scores as of now fluctuate between 6700 and 7700, which seems extremely low for this device (shouldn't I be scoring ~10000+?). In fact, in a few tests it scores lower than my old Sensation (on my highest scoring run today, CPU Integer and RAM were both significantly lower than the Sensation, at 599 and 939 respectively (vs. 966 and 1411). On my lowest scoring runs I only scored about 500 points higher than the Sensation (even though it's heavily OCd, that's still crazy).
I tried running the Antutu Stability test, but that didn't tell me anything useful - the top graph fluctuates between ~54 and ~46, and the temperature never got higher than 34 degrees. According to Lookout Mobile Security, there's no malware or anything like that on the phone.
Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this? Do I really have to root the phone and install a custom ROM to make it perform as it should?
Okay, never mind, I figured it out - clearing cache and data for Google Maps of all things solved this (I'd tried killing the processes and services before, to no avail). Maps was running two processes and two services and consuming a horrible amount of memory and CPU resources. My last Antutu run scored 10800, so everything's back to normal. A lesson learned, I guess.
Right guys we've got 3gbs of ram woawa. I mean that's f.ING great right ..? Ermm would be if this "unbloated" phone wasn't using 75 percent of it straight out of the box that's 2gbs
. I would imagen the reason our phones are getting extremely hot is that samsung are over loading the basics and this resulting in any extras we download from play store or where ever can't use the ram so where pushING it to the maximum. Im not massively knoelagable on ram my Knole expands to. It determind the speed of data gets handled and it's random access memory well my home pc only has 2 and it runs quite quickly
. My s4 had 2 and it was as fast as this s6. And faster once I rooted it and removed bloat wear but I'm not rooting this for at least six months so any one got any tips on keeping the ram at about 60 percent and keeping my phone from basily being a radiator
#1 Google Translate didn't help so I guess I understood 2% of your text.
#2 Package Disabler Pro on Google Play. Buy and use.
#3 Ever opened Task Manager on Windows OS and checked % ram used? No? Good.
#4 What apps are running when your phone gets extremely hot? Give us GSAM screenshots but hey... that's all about the battery again, not ram...
You're an idiot. RAM being fully used isn't a problem on Linux.
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2fb of 3gb = 67% Already better
benjiboythelad said:
Right guys we've got 3gbs of ram woawa. I mean that's f.ING great right ..? Ermm would be if this "unbloated" phone wasn't using 75 percent of it straight out of the box that's 2gbs
. I would imagen the reason our phones are getting extremely hot is that samsung are over loading the basics and this resulting in any extras we download from play store or where ever can't use the ram so where pushING it to the maximum. Im not massively knoelagable on ram my Knole expands to. It determind the speed of data gets handled and it's random access memory well my home pc only has 2 and it runs quite quickly
. My s4 had 2 and it was as fast as this s6. And faster once I rooted it and removed bloat wear but I'm not rooting this for at least six months so any one got any tips on keeping the ram at about 60 percent and keeping my phone from basily being a radiator
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RAM is there to be used, so if 75% are used, it means that 3GB was a good choice and not wasted. Filled up RAM looks bad and wrong, but it's completely fine unless you run out of it. If you don't, then it doesn't matter, even if 75% are filled up.
The processor is the part that heats up, though a 14nm SoC shouldn't and in fact doesn't heat up too bad, unless you are gaming or doing other heavy tasks. Heat is present on all powerful phones.
As others pointed out, battery logs may help if a rogue app is running and wasting loads of resources, but it would be a start if you defined heat. Actual overheating (data please) or the occasional warm back?
Some of you need to research how Android uses RAM. Here's a good place to start:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
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#1 Google Translate didn't help so I guess I understood 2% of your text.
#2 Package Disabler Pro on Google Play. Buy and use.
#3 Ever opened Task Manager on Windows OS and checked % ram used? No? Good.
#4 What apps are running when your phone gets extremely hot? Give us GSAM screenshots but hey... that's all about the battery again, not ram...
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And your a massive prick English . And I for every one else who seems to think that my phone over heating isn't bad it's over 67c I've pin pointed it down to where it's bellow 20% of battery and the let's put it like this .. more apps open more ram used more proccecer speed require the more my phone slows down yes your ****ing dim wits an Linux and Android ram works the ****ing same as a windows other wise it would be cool something different .
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And your a massive prick English . And I for every one else who seems to think that my phone over heating isn't bad it's over 67c I've pin pointed it down to where it's bellow 20% of battery and the let's put it like this .. more apps open more ram used more proccecer speed require the more my phone slows down yes your ****ing dim wits an Linux and Android ram works the ****ing same as a windows other wise it would be cool something different .
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Nope. Its not like that, read first what other two guys wrote about RAM consumption. Load GSAM and post screenshots what is heating & draining your battery. Then we can discuss more about your overheating problems.
btw: It's You're and not Youre.
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And your a massive prick English . And I for every one else who seems to think that my phone over heating isn't bad it's over 67c I've pin pointed it down to where it's bellow 20% of battery and the let's put it like this .. more apps open more ram used more proccecer speed require the more my phone slows down yes your ****ing dim wits an Linux and Android ram works the ****ing same as a windows other wise it would be cool something different .
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Mine sits on 80% or more used and my phone does not even get hot. Having full RAM does not overheat or slow down your phone. All that pr0n you're loading onto it is probably slowing it down
So i have 8/256 zenfone on last android 10 update but multitasking on this phone behave strange random apps are getting killed in the background even if I use idk 50 % of ram and by night most of the apps are gone from memory.
https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/37973#Comment_37973 now some assus boy is trying to say that this is fine but no it is not -.- iam wondering if iam missing some option to turn off or any of you have some similar issues? Maybe iam missing some power saving option to turn off but i think i turn off all of them by now? :crying::cyclops:
Yes, by default this phone has fairly aggressive memory management. Most of the settings you'll want to adjust are under Settings - Battery - Powermaster - Battery Saving Options. You might also want to have a look under Settings - Advanced - Optiflex.
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Yes, by default this phone has fairly aggressive memory management. Most of the settings you'll want to adjust are under Settings - Battery - Powermaster - Battery Saving Options. You might also want to have a look under Settings - Advanced - Optiflex.
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Think I check them all already but today have the same situation still. I even do the format yesterday and for half of the day, phone keep 24 apps in memory without reloading and overnight on charger phone just clean its memory and leave me to 3 apps open so it cleans 21 apps -.- 'm on the edge of returning it i pay 25 % more for 8 GB and my phone is pretending to be 1 GB device sometimes...
berni502 said:
Think I check them all already but today have the same situation still I even do the format yesterday and for half of the day, phone keep 24 apps in memory without reloading and overnight on charger phone just clean its memory and leave me to 3 apps open so it cleans 21 apps -.- 'm on the edge of returning it i pay 25 % more for 8 GB and my phone is pretending to be 1 GB device sometimes...
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That's called battery savings...
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That's called battery savings...
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I don't need that and don't need anybody force me to save my battery lol And we have profiles for battery savings x; ) besides that this is my first android phone doing that... Even my older phones from Xiaomi and Xiaomi is widely known for aggressive ram management never went full retard on cleaning almost all my apps. :silly:
And why on earth it decides to save battery when its plugged to charger xD.
@berni502 is right. There's a bug with LMK or something. You can use RAM memory filler to test how much ram can be allocated to an app (and it gets killed at 5GB instead of 7GB on Pie). Since then everything gets killed even though there's about 4.5GB free, SystemUI included. Reboot fixes the problem. I think I'll open a new discussion there.
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@berni502 is right. There's a bug with LMK or something. You can use RAM memory filler to test how much ram can be allocated to an app (and it gets killed at 5GB instead of 7GB on Pie). Since then everything gets killed even though there's about 4.5GB free, SystemUI included. Reboot fixes the problem. I think I'll open a new discussion there.
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Pls do it! I feel like I am only one in there who cares : ( it seems that killing apps overnight and a way too aggressive ram management starts on android from android 9 there is a lot of ppl writing about it on pixel,oneplus and samsung forums but on asus is it just me : /.
I even find this site but think op resolve problem already because i have op 7t for +/- 3 days and it just works fine no even single app missing form ram overnight.
https://dontkillmyapp.com
I actually can semi confirm your observation about ram after reboots. Yesterday on clean install android 9 multitasking gets huge temporary improvement ram can get as low as 1,5 gb ram or even less but after a day 1 + unwanted ram clear overnight and my restart after this phone struggle to pass 2,8GB free memory it can handle way fewer apps in memory and start reloads them sooner.
First day on android 9 downgrade
VS
Second day
It can be fixed oneplus show it but they won't fix it if I am the only one who is barking about it on their forum.
BTW does your app getting wipe out from memory overnight? I mean from 20 + app get something between 3-9 in the morning and if not can you describe what exactly do you turn on or off in your system or you just don't touch anything?
Well, I'm not that hard multitasker. Of course I have some background services enabled but it's far from having 20 apps running at the same time. Regardless, after a week or so without reboot some issues become more apparent and LMK seems to be very aggressive even though there are 3 GB left (not even buffered).
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Well, I'm not that hard multitasker. Of course I have some background services enabled but it's far from having 20 apps running at the same time. Regardless, after a week or so without reboot some issues become more apparent and LMK seems to be very aggressive even though there are 3 GB left (not even buffered).
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can you try to bump your apps for the night and tell me how many of them you will see in recents in the morning
These issues are there from freaking July but they just don't care or idk
https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/7078/ram-management-and-heating-issue
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can you try to bump your apps for the night and tell me how many of them you will see in recents in the morning
These issues are there from freaking July but they just don't care or idk
https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/7078/ram-management-and-heating-issue
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I must confirm that you are not alone. I did it exactly as you described in one of your posts. Before going to bed I opened 24 applications, then I went through them all once again that they are really all loaded in memory (I have 6 GB of memory). When I woke up in the morning and pressed the multitask button, I was surprised to find that out of the 24 applications, there were exactly 3 left, as you have repeatedly claimed.
I stared at it open-mouthed. In fact, I've never done this check because the phone is fast enough that I just didn't recognize in the morning ((still sleepy) that applications were loading from Flash Memory instead of RAM.
This check is really simple, anyone can do it, but apparently not many users have done it yet.
Next time I would like to try to find out which applications actually stayed, whether the last used ones or completely random ones, and what processes took place at night that might be blame.
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I must confirm that you are not alone. I did it exactly as you described in one of your posts. Before going to bed I opened 24 applications, then I went through them all once again that they are really all loaded in memory (I have 6 GB of memory). When I woke up in the morning and pressed the multitask button, I was surprised to find that out of the 24 applications, there were exactly 3 left, as you have repeatedly claimed.
I stared at it open-mouthed. In fact, I've never done this check because the phone is fast enough that I just didn't recognize in the morning ((still sleepy) that applications were loading from Flash Memory instead of RAM.
This check is really simple, anyone can do it, but apparently not many users have done it yet.
Next time I would like to try to find out which applications actually stayed, whether the last used ones or completely random ones, and what processes took place at night that might be blame.
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I am really tired now of talking to the Asus boys on their forum its is like talking to the wall. Now i get info from them that this is a normal android 10 case but don't believe in this... I use logcat app for 2 nights but I am not that smart to figure out what and where its happening am trying but I think it will be better to return this phone while i still can... : / in the end like i said i pay almost 100$ more for 8gb to have those extra multitasking abilities but they are ripped off form the phone.
From my observation apps stayed in ram can be different. It sad because that ram issue was reported in July on their forum now i don't have any hope in asus work on fixing this problem.
use ram truth or some app to monitor ram and you see some another strange thing even that after night you stay with 3 apps open your ram will be almost full. For me, it was today about 700 mb difference after overnight app kill.
Have you guys tried the same exercise of opening 24 apps and checked them back at morning with other phones?. I'm no expert, but it is my understanding that apart from the LMK that kills apps if memory is needed there is also a time killer i.e. if an app is not used after X amount of time it is killed from memory, so what you see is normal Android behavior.
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Have you guys tried the same exercise of opening 24 apps and checked them back at morning with other phones?. I'm no expert, but it is my understanding that apart from the LMK that kills apps if memory is needed there is also a time killer i.e. if an app is not used after X amount of time it is killed from memory, so what you see is normal Android behavior.
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Like i said before i have oneplus 7t on android 10 for 3 days and it not clean my apps overnight but I am trying to collect some more info about pixel and oneplus now. I have multiple phones on android form 2.1 i believe xD oneplus 3 can keep my apps in memory for a week or longer
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oneplus 3 can keep my apps in memory for a week or longer
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Which Android version?
I haven't had a reason to deal with this issue yet, but after a while searching, I'm starting to feel that this is a feature of Android 9 and 10 that users of various brands complain about:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/note-9-closes-recent-apps-overnight-t3976779
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/apps-running-in-background-get-closed-refreshed.735964/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/978fck/anyone_else_having_issues_with_be_pie/
And they nostalgically recall Oreo where these problems were not.
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Which Android version?
I haven't had a reason to deal with this issue yet, but after a while searching, I'm starting to feel that this is a feature of Android 9 and 10 that users of various brands complain about:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/note-9-closes-recent-apps-overnight-t3976779
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/apps-running-in-background-get-closed-refreshed.735964/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/978fck/anyone_else_having_issues_with_be_pie/
And they nostalgically recall Oreo where these problems were not.
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i don't even remember on what android it was
like I said I am trying to collect some information because i had no problems with one plus 7t on android 10 when i have it for 3 days.
here you have links to my threads because most of your info links are pretty outdated
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4-xl/help/apps-killing-overnight-t4032207#post81434337
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/help/apps-killing-overnight-t4032153#post81433005
Even if android 10 works like that so what? xD they modified many apps in zenfone system and change many options and not implement many aswell so what's wrong with fixing something that clearly works bad and it is no fitted at all for devices with 6,8 gb of ram and more(not even 4 i will still be mad it this happened to me on 4 gb xD)... hmmm, now I'm curious how it works on rog phone 2 this beast have like what 12 gb of ram ? Imagine that you have 12 gb of ram and your apps still getting killed overnight xD i'am to tired to ask about it on rog 2 forum maybe you can.
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most of your info links are pretty outdated
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On the contrary, it is important that the links are older, because it only proves that this problem has been around for a long time (at least from A9) and in addition to different brands. The first link is from October 2019, which I would consider as current enough.
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On the contrary, it is important that the lines are older, because it only proves that this problem has been around for a long time (at least from A9) and in addition to different brands. The first link is from October 2019, which I would consider as current enough.
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yes but they are speaking about anbdroid 9 and they even find some semi solution of that in there(that restart one it shows how bugged it was) ; ) we don't know how it is on samsung android 10 now.
On pixel 4 seems to be ok without any issue and i can't find any no outdated info about oneplus so i just assume that there is no longer a killing app problemo + i have one fr 3 days.
Even minus app killing overnight ram management on asus it's just strange at the moment I am reopening one app that should be easy in memory because i have like 3gb of free ram left but nope it's gone -.-.
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we don't know how it is on samsung android 10 now.
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I'll check Samsung Galaxy S10 with A10 tomorrow maybe.
Question is, why would you want an app that you have not used for X hours to stay in memory? All apps that need to run in the background use a service for that purpose. The rest gets killed as they should because either another app needs the memory or because is haven't been used in a long time. To my knowledge Android has been like that for ever (as opposed to windows for example, where you can completely stall without memory unless you manually kill things).
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Question is, why would you want an app that you have not used for X hours to stay in memory? All apps that need to run in the background use a service for that purpose. The rest gets killed as they should because either another app needs the memory or because is haven't been used in a long time. To my knowledge Android has been like that for ever (as opposed to windows for example, where you can completely stall without memory unless you manually kill things).
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And why do i want all of them gone overnight when I am connected to charger ? Solution is easy if you wanna save your battery you have power profiles for that so you can and if you don't wanna do that you should still be able to but you cant... and there is matter of price why do i pay so much for so powerfull device when iam force to not use its hardware to full of its capabilities. You are right about android ram menagment but that i wanna kill your all apps start on android 9 apparently. There is nothing bad with cleaning some space when you need that for new apps but killing it all or killing it when you have half of ram empty its just stupid...
you can read some more in here maybe https://dontkillmyapp.com
and imagine i have 8 gb of ram that rog phone 2 can have even 12 and 6k battery if they have same problems lol its is like buying a sports hybrid car with turbo v8 engine and be forced to use only that electric motor because of fuel savings ^^
Hello XDA ! I have problem with my Note 20 Ultra Exynos... When I bought it, started lagging immediately, I brought it to authorized service center and they told me that device is working correctly and it has no problems. But now when I am doing something e.g using Samsung browser, or watching videos it starts freezing and random reboots. So I tried wiping cache, factory/Odin reset but no results, I am not using many 3rd party apps. What do you think ? What is the problem ? Or can you tell me how to know if CPU or GPU is faulty ? Using normal mode FHD+ and 60Hz... I'll attach drive link How it is lagging
I have the exact same problem
While the device get warm it's starts laging and freezing,
And Samsung said me too the device working correctly,
I have 2 friends who got the same device and doesn't have those problems.
This is my last Samsung device for me.
Horrible customer service .
It's an app that's probably sucking up bandwidth, CPU cycles and battery.
Google Play Services, Backup Transport, Framework and all cloud/chat apps are prime suspects.
A random reboot isn't normal though. Android 11 is a mess. Try running factory loads for the Google system apps, Gmail and Gmaps. Kill Google firebase, all feedback and all cloud crap.
The exynos chip has basically zero cooling. (No joke, look at a teardown vid of it).
It's way too much CPU for way too little heat sink.
It can throttle itself (like all chips will) but can definitely crash under heavy load and heat if it's a poorly binned chip.
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The exynos chip has basically zero cooling. (No joke, look at a teardown vid of it).
It's way too much CPU for way too little heat sink.
It can throttle itself (like all chips will) but can definitely crash under heavy load and heat if it's a poorly binned chip.
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It's up in the air which cooling solution Samsung used short of doing a teardown of that individual phone. Samsung isn't consistent with the internal parts used during even a single production run... a long running issue with Sammy. Most noticeable with the smaller chipsets and components that can cause a firmware update to skew some of the "same" models... until Samsung includes the inadvertent variants in the update.
You know it's bad when Samsung physically has to examine the phone to know what chipsets were used (excluding the processor,etc).
i9apps said:
I have the exact same problem
While the device get warm it's starts laging and freezing,
And Samsung said me too the device working correctly,
I have 2 friends who got the same device and doesn't have those problems.
This is my last Samsung device for me.
Horrible customer service .
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It drives me crazy, warms up for no reason and lags af, sometimes I put it in the fridge to cool down :d
bekasulaberidze said:
It drives me crazy, warms up for no reason and lags af, sometimes I put it in the fridge to cool down :d
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There's a reason it's running warm; excessive cpu cycles and/or excessive internet usage.
Find the apks responsible.
It's also toasting your battery*... been there, done that, and yes it's maddening until you sort it out.
This probably needlessly cost me at least 200 maybe a 1000 full charge cycles on my old Li battery
*charge battery no more than 80% to help limit the high current drain damage until the issues are resolved. Be especially careful in high ambient temperatures as you can do permanent damage to it quickly.
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There's a reason it's running warm; excessive cpu cycles and/or excessive internet usage.
Find the apks responsible.
It's also toasting your battery*... been there, done that, and yes it's maddening until you sort it out.
This probably needlessly cost me at least 200 maybe a 1000 full charge cycles on my old Li battery
*charge battery no more than 80% to help limit the high current drain damage until the issues are resolved. Be especially careful in high ambient temperatures as you can do permanent damage to it quickly.
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Thanks for tips, I had S20 Ultra before, but it was working perfectly no lags no reboots, they have same exy chips right ? The hell is going with this one ? I am very very disappointed with N20U, right now CPU temp is 26C, not every time/everyday starts warming and lagging, I can't tell what is causing heating because, I am doing same [email protected] everyday, scrolling reddit, listening to music etc. Sorry for my English if it is grammatically correct...
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Thanks for tips, I had S20 Ultra before, but it was working perfectly no lags no reboots, they have same exy chips right ? The hell is going with this one ? I am very very disappointed with N20U, right now CPU temp is 26C, not every time/everyday starts warming and lagging, I can't tell what is causing heating because, I am doing same [email protected] everyday, scrolling reddit, listening to music etc. Sorry for my English if it is grammatically correct...
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Your english is fine. Not sure about chipsets, it should be a great phone though once you work this out. I'm thinking about getting either this or another 10+.
I have the Note 10+ and it was a hot running power hog too. At first it was ok but within a few days it went to hell.
What I learned...
Do not enable any power saving in Device Care ie the toggle on stuff, enable fast charging only. Do not optimize any apps in the settings options.
Android can manage its self well without that junk.
Developer options>Standby apps, all buckets should show as active, if not power management is active! If active it will cause erratic behavior as well. Blocking background and data usage is generally ok to to do though.
Use Package Disaler to help tame it.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Use Kara Firewall (Playstore) to lock down the internet. It's logging feature doesn't work on Q and above though I believe. I'm running on Pie.
If you did any major firmware updates do a factory reset now. Otherwise clearing the system cache can help.
Try rolling back apks especially system and Google apks to their factory loads or updating them. Updating them sometimes makes them worse.
Clearing the system logs as needed with a 3rd party cleaner can help.
Disable all Google, Samsung and carrier feedback. Disable Goggle Firebase.
Disable all cloud, WhatsApp, FB etc. crap.
Goggle Play Services*, Backup Transport and Framework are prime offenders, clear data as needed. Package block them too and well as Playstore when not needed.
You can also firewall block Play Services* UID 10O44, Android Services UID 1000 and Gmaps*.
I use Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker, it's helpful in spotting Goggle Framework usage. Framework will always show as running even if PBed but it's usage should drop drastically.
Play with it, adjust by trial and error.
My 10+ is now a heavily optimized stock load, cool running machine that runs very well, fast and stable. It wasn't always like this though.
Once you get it optimized avoid firmware updates especially if it's running well as they can throw you straight back into the hurt locker.
*toggle on as needed. PD MDM let's you set a widget to toggle box checked apps on/off. It works great.
blackhawk said:
Your english is fine. Not sure about chipsets, it should be a great phone though once you work this out. I'm thinking about getting either this or another 10+.
I have the Note 10+ and it was a hot running power hog too. At first it was ok but within a few days it went to hell.
What I learned...
Do not enable any power saving in Device Care ie the toggle on stuff, enable fast charging only. Do not optimize any apps in the settings options.
Android can manage its self well without that junk.
Developer options>Standby apps, all buckets should show as active, if not power management is active! If active it will cause erratic behavior as well. Blocking background and data usage is generally ok to to do though.
Use Package Disaler to help tame it.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Use Kara Firewall (Playstore) to lock down the internet. It's logging feature doesn't work on Q and above though I believe. I'm running on Pie.
If you did any major firmware updates do a factory reset now. Otherwise clearing the system cache can help.
Try rolling back apks especially system and Google apks to their factory loads or updating them. Updating them sometimes makes them worse.
Clearing the system logs as needed with a 3rd party cleaner can help.
Disable all Google, Samsung and carrier feedback. Disable Goggle Firebase.
Disable all cloud, WhatsApp, FB etc. crap.
Goggle Play Services*, Backup Transport and Framework are prime offenders, clear data as needed. Package block them too and well as Playstore when not needed.
You can also firewall block Play Services* UID 10O44, Android Services UID 1000 and Gmaps*.
I use Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker, it's helpful in spotting Goggle Framework usage. Framework will always show as running even if PBed but it's usage should drop drastically.
Play with it, adjust by trial and error.
My 10+ is now a heavily optimized stock load, cool running machine that runs very well, fast and stable. It wasn't always like this though.
Once you get it optimized avoid firmware updates especially if it's running well as they can throw you straight back into the hurt locker.
*toggle on as needed. PD MDM let's you set a widget to toggle box checked apps on/off. It works great.
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Thank you again for all these tips, I'll try them !
But I have two more question if you know, my device only charges at super fast charging, when I enable fast charging it says cable charging, using stock charger and USB cable what is this ? This charger only charges super fast ? and the second question is why enable fast charging ? I always charge at regular charge...
bekasulaberidze said:
Thank you again for all these tips, I'll try them !
But I have two more question if you know, my device only charges at super fast charging, when I enable fast charging it says cable charging, using stock charger and USB cable what is this ? This charger only charges super fast ? and the second question is why enable fast charging ? I always charge at regular charge...
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It only fast charges if it's enable and has a fast charging compatible brick/cable.
It should say fast charging when plugged in if it is. If not try toggling the switch 3 times*.
It will charge at normal speed otherwise.
Fast charging will likely decrease the battery longevity at least slightly.
Li's love frequently midrange 40-70% partial charge cycles. It takes only 10 minutes for a 20% charge in this range. It's fast.
* failure to engage or erratic fast charging can indicate a battery failure...so I learned recently
If battery swelling is spotted replace it asap.
It will push the back panel up if it swells.
Hi guys,
I bought a used Note 20 Ultra Sanpdragon version at a very very advantageous price, yet to arrive, but the one who sold it to me says he has only one "problem", the phone restarts randomly.
What could be the cause?
ShortyPG said:
Hi guys,
I bought a used Note 20 Ultra Sanpdragon version at a very very advantageous price, yet to arrive, but the one who sold it to me says he has only one "problem", the phone restarts randomly.
What could be the cause?
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Problem is hardware bro,maybe is better buy new phone then with low price. Sorry.
I have this phone when launched, never restart randomly.
maxpaynezm said:
Problem is hardware bro,maybe is better buy new phone then with low price. Sorry.
I have this phone when launched, never restart randomly.
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Thanks bro, the phone is in warranty, but I live in Italy and the phone is imported. He has no time to resolve the issue that's the reason of the sell. I hope is however service in crash, something resolvable via software.
Sorry for my English.
I would boot your devices into Safe and see if the same issue is present. If it is not, then it is definately an app, which is causing the issue. I would start by uninstalling apps from your device, starting from the most recently ones, which you have installed.
ShortyPG said:
Hi guys,
I bought a used Note 20 Ultra Sanpdragon version at a very very advantageous price, yet to arrive, but the one who sold it to me says he has only one "problem", the phone restarts randomly.
What could be the cause?
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It may be the battery if you're lucky.
Start there.
If the battery is good, factory reset*, if still doing it firmware reflash**.
If that doesn't get it, it may be a blown mobo.
Probably your best bet is to have a tech with a lot of Samsung experience look at it.
*leave all system apks running in their factory load versions. Add no 3rd party apps until you can ascertain it's running stable. If so add 3rd party apps. Then only update system apps if needed and one at a time.
**may have corrupted firmware. Usually a hardware failure causes this but not always.
You can skip the factory reload and go directly to this step if you want. Load its original stock Android 10 rom for now.