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Screen size b/t the Note 3/4 are the same, can I use my existing screen protectors?

So, the same screen size between the Note 3 and 4 means I can use the screen protectors I have on my current Note 3?
5.7" correct?

I think so
Note 3 rooted knox 1, my last Samsuck crap. I want freedom. Stay away from Samsuck!

If true, yay.

Depends on whether or not the proximity sensors on the front of the phone have changed or not. Personally, I wouldn't bother and would purchase one made for the Note 4.

Sensors are the same on front on note3-4, look at pictures
Note 3 rooted knox 1, my last Samsuck crap. I want freedom. Stay away from Samsuck!

What kind of a super rare/expensive screen protector are you talking about reusing, instead of just buying a new one specifically for the $800+ Note 4 you will have just obtained? As well, the glass on the Note 4 is not flat, it has rounded edges(not talking about the Note 4 Edge), which may prove interesting for screen protector production.

The front facing camera seems to have a bigger hole and the edges of the Note 4 are curved so the same screen protectors might not be the best to use. Get a good new one.

jpmcnown said:
What kind of a super rare/expensive screen protector are you talking about reusing, instead of just buying a new one specifically for the $800+ Note 4 you will have just obtained? As well, the glass on the Note 4 is not flat, it has rounded edges(not talking about the Note 4 Edge), which may prove interesting for screen protector production.
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The Note 4 "should" cost a lot less than it does. Given that it's no more than an incremental slight upgrade from the Note3, I'll upgrade when I get around to it. There's no rush in it for me. I may only get it because my T-Mobile Jump plan lets me. However, I take issue with the whole "$800+" upgrade stuff. I want to know what I can repurpose from my existing device such as screen protectors because honestly, I just don't see buying everything all new again simply because they moved this up one number.
I'll wait and see for myself if anything is compatible between 3 and 4. Thank you for all your feedback.

sanjsrik said:
The Note 4 "should" cost a lot less than it does. Given that it's no more than an incremental slight upgrade from the Note3, I'll upgrade when I get around to it. There's no rush in it for me. I may only get it because my T-Mobile Jump plan lets me. However, I take issue with the whole "$800+" upgrade stuff. I want to know what I can repurpose from my existing device such as screen protectors because honestly, I just don't see buying everything all new again simply because they moved this up one number.
I'll wait and see for myself if anything is compatible between 3 and 4. Thank you for all your feedback.
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Why did you even ask then? If you were already set on waiting or possibly not upgrading? Please tell me that saving money on a glass screen protector didn't make the difference? Cases will be different as well.
As for cost- NONE of these phones are selling for anywhere near what would be reasonable considering what they cost to make, but the curved screen and the fact that it is 4K, plus the hardware improvements to the camera (it now has optical image stabilization as opposed to digital image stabilization)... those 2 things alone i am sure they use to justify the bump in price. Is it overpriced? Sure, but aren't they all?

Looking at this video, it looks like the home button on the Note 4 is just a bit bigger. The cutout for the home button that is on my Note 3 tempered glass screen protector fits just right so I'm thinking it will be too small. I could be wrong though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmBY6WTcwAo

ReggieSmith said:
Why did you even ask then? If you were already set on waiting or possibly not upgrading? Please tell me that saving money on a glass screen protector didn't make the difference? Cases will be different as well.
As for cost- NONE of these phones are selling for anywhere near what would be reasonable considering what they cost to make, but the curved screen and the fact that it is 4K, plus the hardware improvements to the camera (it now has optical image stabilization as opposed to digital image stabilization)... those 2 things alone i am sure they use to justify the bump in price. Is it overpriced? Sure, but aren't they all?
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im getting just for the selfies with the mrs. front cam beats note 3 lol. LDR so its worth it hahaha

bogdan1980 said:
I think so
Note 3 rooted knox 1, my last Samsuck crap. I want freedom. Stay away from Samsuck!
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so.. are you gonna get the note 4 or is it a "samsuck"?

how.... clever

>Buy $800 phone
>Don't buy correct $10 screen protector
You people.

rawdikrik said:
>Buy $800 phone
>Don't buy correct $10 screen protector
You people.
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I've always wondered about this & situations about cases but to each their own.

Doo you recommend this phone?

Thinking of buying this phone since its cheaper now and has all up to date features from samsung
Do you recommend it? Also how do you protect your screen? And Have you ever dropped it?

I am looking forward to the answer as well for myself. I've been using note 1 up until now and this is just a plan either note 4 or note edge and would love to her suggestions

I really like the note edge because its unique but at same time
It does not have known screen protectors nor i have seen any one recommend a case for it and i could not find any drop tests for it..
As for note 4 it lacks edge features of note edge but at same time you can guarntee that it will never have of scratch or crack thanks for the so many screen protectors available for it.
Could some one pls give me their opinions for the edge and if screen protector will protect it?

m coming off of the Note II and moving on to the Edge... the phone seems super powerful but i havent tested it yet... I have an unlocked AT&T and Im actually coming on here to rom it with something that does not give me 4 gigs of garbage apps that I cant use or uninstall!...
Screen wise, I barely ever got a scratch on the screen of my note 2... so Im thinking this screen will be just as reliable... but I do want to get a decent case for it... the one i have is used so it looks like the previous user didnt use a case and it has a bunch of dings on the edge that doesnt have a screen... its not too noticeable but it does show that the phone tends to fall on that side the most.
I can honestly say that the internet on this phone is kinda crappy... Im not sure if its the Rom or maybe a faulty antena.. after I flash it with a bare bone Rom I'll test it out and let you guys know... if its the antena i will be very upset.

Haha, I've actually been waiting for someone to ask these questions and I will tell you my experience...... The story starts with a Note 4. I bought one a while back because it was basically the best phone to date. I "liked" the Note 4, but I have AT&T and after having it for a while, I found myself online daily to see if anyone had rooted it yet so I could clean it up (a lot). That day never came. So I typed "Note 4 vs" in Google to see what people were comparing it to. I'll keep the story short, but some of you may appreciate the extra details. Sooo.... went for the Nexus 6, basically everything the Note was, minus everything the Note was, lol. Fell in love with the Nexus. Loved the assortment of roms and freedom to roam. But the camera sucks. It was/is one of my favorite phones, and I've owned them all. Well, I sold my Nexus because prices are dropping like a rock on them. Which brings us to...
Note edge.
Bottom line, I love the phone. I've used an S6 edge (which has faster hardware) but the actual functionality of the edge on the Note blow the S6 edge out of the water. I bought the T-Mobile edge because if I decided to keep it, I wanted to root it. Well, I used it for a couple days and I was sold. Even before rooting, I already loved it. Sold the Nexus 6 (still an awesome phone). Bottom line in my opinion, for phones in this class, the Note edge is awesome. I know there are 50 other opinions out there, but I wanted to not only share my opinion, but the story behind it. Not to mention expandable storage and removable battery.
Screen protectors: I've only used one, and surprisingly I am pretty happy with it. Considering I think the only ones they can make for an edge are TPU, I thought there was no hope because of the texture of TPU. I thought the pen would suffer the most. I bought the Skinomi off of Amazon, I swear I spent an hour reading and trying to decide. It's a wet apply, which I don't mind at all, and it was better than I anticipated. Smoother than I was expecting, and pen was smooth on it, too. I took it off because I had one little bubble and re-applied it, well it doesn't really work the second time. So they are sending me a new one free. So it has been about 4 or 5 days with no screen protector and I'm honestly thinking about not putting the new one on. Nothing beats the smooth feel of the glass...... But, as we all know, it only takes that one single time to have that scratch stare back at you forever. Choose wisely.
So there's my story.
Oh, I would also suggest finding one with 4.4.4 and not 5. Take my word for it, or do some research. I'm staying on 4.4.4 and am happy as can be.

hyst3rical said:
Haha, I've actually been waiting for someone to ask these questions and I will tell you my experience...... The story starts with a Note 4. I bought one a while back because it was basically the best phone to date. I "liked" the Note 4, but I have AT&T and after having it for a while, I found myself online daily to see if anyone had rooted it yet so I could clean it up (a lot). That day never came. So I typed "Note 4 vs" in Google to see what people were comparing it to. I'll keep the story short, but some of you may appreciate the extra details. Sooo.... went for the Nexus 6, basically everything the Note was, minus everything the Note was, lol. Fell in love with the Nexus. Loved the assortment of roms and freedom to roam. But the camera sucks. It was/is one of my favorite phones, and I've owned them all. Well, I sold my Nexus because prices are dropping like a rock on them. Which brings us to...
Note edge.
Bottom line, I love the phone. I've used an S6 edge (which has faster hardware) but the actual functionality of the edge on the Note blow the S6 edge out of the water. I bought the T-Mobile edge because if I decided to keep it, I wanted to root it. Well, I used it for a couple days and I was sold. Even before rooting, I already loved it. Sold the Nexus 6 (still an awesome phone). Bottom line in my opinion, for phones in this class, the Note edge is awesome. I know there are 50 other opinions out there, but I wanted to not only share my opinion, but the story behind it. Not to mention expandable storage and removable battery.
Screen protectors: I've only used one, and surprisingly I am pretty happy with it. Considering I think the only ones they can make for an edge are TPU, I thought there was no hope because of the texture of TPU. I thought the pen would suffer the most. I bought the Skinomi off of Amazon, I swear I spent an hour reading and trying to decide. It's a wet apply, which I don't mind at all, and it was better than I anticipated. Smoother than I was expecting, and pen was smooth on it, too. I took it off because I had one little bubble and re-applied it, well it doesn't really work the second time. So they are sending me a new one free. So it has been about 4 or 5 days with no screen protector and I'm honestly thinking about not putting the new one on. Nothing beats the smooth feel of the glass...... But, as we all know, it only takes that one single time to have that scratch stare back at you forever. Choose wisely.
So there's my story.
Oh, I would also suggest finding one with 4.4.4 and not 5. Take my word for it, or do some research. I'm staying on 4.4.4 and am happy as can be.
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Yeah. Reason i prefer note edge to all 2015 phones. That it combines the s pen with edge and finger print features and 2k display. Which means lots of features compared to the featurless s6. Not to mention sd card slot and removable battery could be a plus.
I see it as a future proof phone.
However i would never leave it without screen protector and i advice you not to..
I removed both the case and screen protector of My note 3 and one day fell on the air port and had a big scratch in the middle.
No matter how much it distorts screen quality its always worth it at least until you get better protector.
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Well, my story is that I fell in love with the leather note series. I started with the note 2, which was ergonomically a better phone in any way(rounded edges). Note 3 was awesome, then the note 4 which I like; but the rom support isn't that great in my opinion.
Now the edge has a lower amount of xda nerds, but yet better roms(I can't go without Multi DPI roms anymore).
The Edge just adds extra features the Note 4 doesn't have, nothing more really. For the casing; I like the genuine samsung flip covers, so I bought one for my edge aswell. I don't have it yet, but I guess it will be as awesome as all other note flip cases ;D

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Naderxd said:
I really like the note edge because its unique but at same time
It does not have known screen protectors nor i have seen any one recommend a case for it and i could not find any drop tests for it..
As for note 4 it lacks edge features of note edge but at same time you can guarntee that it will never have of scratch or crack thanks for the so many screen protectors available for it.
Could some one pls give me their opinions for the edge and if screen protector will protect it?
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I have the Healing shield protector on mine and it is curved to fit the screen. www.healingshield.co.kr
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Sammo201 said:
m coming off of the Note II and moving on to the Edge... the phone seems super powerful but i havent tested it yet... I have an unlocked AT&T and Im actually coming on here to rom it with something that does not give me 4 gigs of garbage apps that I cant use or uninstall!...
Screen wise, I barely ever got a scratch on the screen of my note 2... so Im thinking this screen will be just as reliable... but I do want to get a decent case for it... the one i have is used so it looks like the previous user didnt use a case and it has a bunch of dings on the edge that doesnt have a screen... its not too noticeable but it does show that the phone tends to fall on that side the most.
I can honestly say that the internet on this phone is kinda crappy... Im not sure if its the Rom or maybe a faulty antena.. after I flash it with a bare bone Rom I'll test it out and let you guys know... if its the antena i will be very upset.
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I have the HANTON Samsung Galaxy Note Edge Card Pocket Case Front Full Cover Flip Classic from ebay and it covers the whole screen including the edge.

I love my Note Edge. At first, I was gonna get the Note 4 but I knew that I would've regretted it later because of the uniqueness of the Edge. I had played with the iPhone 6 Plus and the S6 Edge but, I don't really like iPhones and the edge of the S6 seemed like a gimmick to me. Since I had read that the Note Edge was pretty much a Note 4 with a second, independent screen, I went for it despite of the high price. I also bought the
ArmorSuit MilitaryShield - Samsung Galaxy Note Edge Screen Protector and the Verus Thor case.
I couldn't be happier with my purchase. The phone has all the features of the Note 4 plus all the features of an actual, super-useful, functional edge screen. I flashed a new ROM as soon as I got it, I keep installing apps, and the phone is as good as new. It also looks amazing and it doesn't have a scratch on it. If you like features, you'll love the Edge Note.

In my opinion the Note Edge is the best piece of Android hardware on the market today....with one of the worst software implementations. Especially the ATT version is a bloated lag ridden touchwiz mess that, due to the locked bootloader, cannot be fixed. The stock 4.4 version is just "ok" while the 5.0.1 "upgrade" is almost unusable by normal android standards. There are some great ROMS already out for this great piece of hardware, but if your unwilling/unable to flash one or uncomfortable with Xposed, I would steer towards something else that doesnt use Touchwiz.

I love mine.
It's got to be the nicest phone I've ever laid hands on.
Buy it.
Root it.
Get rid of all the garbage.
It seems like everyone and their brother has a factory installed app' on this thing.
BTW,stick with KitKat.
Apparently the new ROM has a myriad of headaches with it.
It kind of reminds of Windows.
The more they "refine" it,the more bloated it gets.
My RAM usage is around 600 MB with anti virus and a couple more apps' on board.
It works very nicely.

yes, 1000%. just do not get the lollipop upgrade if you can avoid it.

I don't know what issues you guys get with 5.0.1, it's working fine on my n915g.

maybe you're lucky
Beetle84 said:
I don't know what issues you guys get with 5.0.1, it's working fine on my n915g.
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calls can't be answered from the edge anymore, text messages flash across the top of the screen, not the edge like it should, there is no music player on the lock screen anymore and the battery life sucks on 5.0.1. There's more, but these are the easiest to identify. If you are fine with that or have not experienced these crippling setbacks of 5.0.1. then good for you. As for me, reverting back, gave me all the features that made this my top phone of the past 10 years.

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calls can't be answered from the edge anymore, text messages flash across the top of the screen, not the edge like it should, there is no music player on the lock screen anymore and the battery life sucks on 5.0.1. There's more, but these are the easiest to identify. If you are fine with that or have not experienced these crippling setbacks of 5.0.1. then good for you. As for me, reverting back, gave me all the features that made this my top phone of the past 10 years.
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I'm on 5.0.1 and haven't lost any of those. Just the camera button on the edge and trusted devices.

rquinn19 said:
I'm on 5.0.1 and haven't lost any of those. Just the camera button on the edge and trusted devices.
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Mine is fine in all regards too, only complaint is the camera button has moved, and with the flip cover the screen doesn't turn off when the edge screen is active and you are currently in the messaging or gallery apps

steve austin said:
calls can't be answered from the edge anymore, text messages flash across the top of the screen, not the edge like it should, there is no music player on the lock screen anymore and the battery life sucks on 5.0.1. There's more, but these are the easiest to identify. If you are fine with that or have not experienced these crippling setbacks of 5.0.1. then good for you. As for me, reverting back, gave me all the features that made this my top phone of the past 10 years.
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That's strange, I've never had any of those issues.

Samsung phones are good but the Hang up a lot
sarf2k4 said:
I am looking forward to the answer as well for myself. I've been using note 1 up until now and this is just a plan either note 4 or note edge and would love to her suggestions
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Samsung Phones are goood but they Hang while after some time, I will recommend HTC

My Edge answers calls too. ...Im running TekXodus Rom...pretty sweet...lots of customizations...but the best of stock too

Beetle84 said:
That's strange, I've never had any of those issues.
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millab said:
Mine is fine in all regards too, only complaint is the camera button has moved, and with the flip cover the screen doesn't turn off when the edge screen is active and you are currently in the messaging or gallery apps
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I'm on 5.0.1 and haven't lost any of those. Just the camera button on the edge and trusted devices.
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it must have just been my phone because ALL of those things disappeared with 5.0.1. they are back now and I am happy.

My T-mobile V20 arrived via UPS

Very little light bleed on the bottom right corner with brightness at 100%. none on second screen. Phone feels great and comparable to the note 7 . curved metal edges feel good in the hand.

UPS just picked up my shipment and it will be here on the 20th. Great to hear, have been on a G5 since I turned in our Note 7's v2. The more good things I hear the more excited I get about the phones getting here.

You might want to change your title since your phone hasn't really arrived.

Just got mine. I have just the slightest bit of light bleed around where the front camera is and across the left part of the second screen. you can only really see it on white backgrounds and the top just looks slightly brighter than below. It's nothing like the v10 where it was like someone was just shining a tiny flashlight from the top left corner of the second screen. Overall, I'm pleased so far.
Thank god for the option to change DPI being built into android now. I couldn't stand the huge DPI on past LG phones.

mine was delivered about an hour ago

Cool, let us know hows the battery!

MrNetwork said:
You might want to change your title since your phone hasn't really arrived.
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Its sitting on my couch next to me. cant really arrive any more than that.

TriBeard said:
Just got mine. I have just the slightest bit of light bleed around where the front camera is and across the left part of the second screen. you can only really see it on white backgrounds and the top just looks slightly brighter than below. It's nothing like the v10 where it was like someone was just shining a tiny flashlight from the top left corner of the second screen. Overall, I'm pleased so far.
Thank god for the option to change DPI being built into android now. I couldn't stand the huge DPI on past LG phones.
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Yeah, no where near as bad as the V10 was with the second screen. I have the blue light filter set to low all the time since it warms up the screen just slightly. This thing has a great screen considering it's LCD. I am finding this a perfect replacement for the Note 7. Also nice to be holding a phone that I don't feel like i'm going to break just by looking at it. The Note 7 just felt like it was solid, but delicate. This thing just feels solid. I'll still put a minimal case on it just for scratch protection, but otherwise i think this thing could handle a few drops.

StaticMoot said:
Yeah, no where near as bad as the V10 was with the second screen. I have the blue light filter set to low all the time since it warms up the screen just slightly. This thing has a great screen considering it's LCD. I am finding this a perfect replacement for the Note 7. Also nice to be holding a phone that I don't feel like i'm going to break just by looking at it. The Note 7 just felt like it was solid, but delicate. This thing just feels solid. I'll still put a minimal case on it just for scratch protection, but otherwise i think this thing could handle a few drops.
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I also set the blue light filter to low. The screen was just too cold and harsh without it. I find the body of the phone kinda slick, but a thin case will take care of that and help keep it from getting scuffed when I drop it.

How do you guys like the included pre-installed screen protector?

Got a tracking number but not yet any information regarding shipping or delivery date : Luckily I got overnight shipping for free from T-Mobile.

mgymnop said:
Got a tracking number but not yet any information regarding shipping or delivery date : Luckily I got overnight shipping for free from T-Mobile.
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I didn't even get a tracking # yet. :///

Intub8 said:
How do you guys like the included pre-installed screen protector?
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I thought about leaving it on, but I've got some trial tempered glass ones on the way and I didn't like how it felt with that plastic one on there.

You folks from T-mobile with a v20 in hand right now suck big time jking. I ordered a week ago via Att and still have over a week to wait. I am very jealous, especially since I am using an LG phoenix 2 as temp and hate it to death. Anyways, enjoy the V20.

naturecannon said:
You folks from T-mobile with a v20 in hand right now suck big time jking. I ordered a week ago via Att and still have over a week to wait. I am very jealous, especially since I am using an LG phoenix 2 as temp and hate it to death. Anyways, enjoy the V20.
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Same here.
Estimated ship date for mine is 24-28th.
Might just walk in to the store on the 28th and pick one up if mine hasn't shipped yet.

What's the min/max iso and shutter speed for the camera?

What is the size of sim card? The same as note 4?

netgar said:
What is the size of sim card? The same as note 4?
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Anything these days will be nano-sim.

naturecannon said:
You folks from T-mobile with a v20 in hand right now suck big time jking. I ordered a week ago via Att and still have over a week to wait. I am very jealous, especially since I am using an LG phoenix 2 as temp and hate it to death. Anyways, enjoy the V20.
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i am extremely surprised i was able to pre-order and get the phone within 1 day and full 10 days before the actual release.
netgar said:
What is the size of sim card? The same as note 4?
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nano sim card. the sim and sd card use the same slots. sim card on the bottom and sd card on top:good:

lightninbug said:
What's the min/max iso and shutter speed for the camera?
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Anyone?!? Please answer

Demo Units At Verizon and Best Buy

I just stopped by my local Verizon store, and my local Best Buy, and both had demo stations set up.
Some quick impressions:
The build quality is very nice. The matte etched glass looks better than I was expecting.
The notch looks much better in person. It's really not bad at all. I think everyone is reacting to close-up photos blown up on their monitor, and don't think about the real-world size of the device. However, the Verizon demo app running on the XL has the background of the notification bar blacked out to hide the notch.
The "chin" isn't that bad either (for the same reasons), especially given the trade-off of getting front-facing speakers.
The "Not Pink" is very subtle, but doesn't really look that good to me. However, that is a purely subjective opinion, and others may think it looks great.

Plenty of people are saying that the notch "isn't so bad" when the phone is in your hands, and while I'm more than happy to agree I'll say this - you shouldn't be spending this kind of money on a product that has something that "isn't so bad". The 128GB variant costs well over $1k with taxes included.. I shouldn't be settling for much when spending that kind of money on a smartphone. Headphone jacks, Micro SD compatibility, etc. are things that I am willing to forgive, but the notch might be a bit too much to swallow. We'll see, I get my Pixel 3 XL around the 26th. If I really can't stand it, it'll go back to Google and OnePlus will likely earn my money with their beautiful design and affordability.
Also, the notch doesn't seem so bad on its own - sure; but I'm sure most would feel different if they hold OnePlus' upcoming 6T in one hand and the Pixel 3 XL in the other. The teardrop notch will shame the Pixel 3 XL. Here's to hoping that the software on the 6T can somewhat match what Google's doing, as that's Google's biggest selling point.

AhsanU said:
Plenty of people are saying that the notch "isn't so bad" when the phone is in your hands, and while I'm more than happy to agree I'll say this - you shouldn't be spending this kind of money on a product that has something that "isn't so bad". The 128GB variant costs well over $1k with taxes included.. I shouldn't be settling for much when spending that kind of money on a smartphone. Headphone jacks, Micro SD compatibility, etc. are things that I am willing to forgive, but the notch might be a bit too much to swallow. We'll see, I get my Pixel 3 XL around the 26th. If I really can't stand it, it'll go back to Google and OnePlus will likely earn my money with their beautiful design and affordability.
Also, the notch doesn't seem so bad on its own - sure; but I'm sure most would feel different if they hold OnePlus' upcoming 6T in one hand and the Pixel 3 XL in the other. The teardrop notch will shame the Pixel 3 XL. Here's to hoping that the software on the 6T can somewhat match what Google's doing, as that's Google's biggest selling point.
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Wellu won't, once u keep using pixel its hard to go back to anything else, basically google doesn't give a f... Ant how the notch looks, they are sellin the best software that's it, yes i agree the notch is ugly but i cant imagine myself using anything else after havin 2 xl for nearly a year

misiokicio said:
Wellu won't, once u keep using pixel its hard to go back to anything else, basically google doesn't give a f... Ant how the notch looks, they are selling the best software that's it, yes i agree the notch is ugly but i cant imagine myself using anything else after having 2 xl for nearly a year
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I feel the same way as you do...but if this phone isn't rootable / ROM-able (because of this dam Titan Chip on Board)....it wont be the same as previous pixel/nexus devices.....that will likely be a deal breaker. It already has less battery, no additional ram, huge notch, no LED notification light.....not being rootable/ROM-able will be the straw that breaks the camels back.
Edit: I just came back from the Verizon store as well.....they had the phone in all 3 colors and the pixel stand. The phone looks nice. Lets just hope for root. Also the haptic feedback to me didn't seem better than the P2XL....I heard a few reviews online mention it was considerably improved and the Russian review even claimed it may be better than the iPhone's vibration motor. It didn't feel that way to me tho.

I went to a Verizon store today and check out the 3 and 3 xl myself. I have to say, I DO like it a lot! Like the OP said, in person, the notch is NOT that bad. Having said that, if anyone comes up with a way to partially hide it, I'll still be doing that. I didn't have long to play with it (on lunch from work), but here's what I got:
The screen is WAY better than the 2 xl. Way better. I did not notice any shift either. Compared to my 2 xl, it was definitely a huge improvement. Everything just looks better/clearer.
The glass back was actually pretty cool. You almost wouldn't know it was all glass. However, the matte finish ends just before the edges. That I don't like. The edges are smooth and somewhat slippery. They really should have extended the matte finish onto the edges.
The phone was definitely snappier. I have mine adjusted to .5 for all animations and such, and the 3 xl was much more smooth. I'm sure it will be super quick once that option is changed to .5 when I have mine in hand.
The chin is pretty much identical to the 2 xl. It does not bother me one bit. I would much rather have dual front facing speakers and a chin/notch/forehead than not.
I couldn't really test much else out as I didn't have time. As the OP mentioned, the dev settings were password locked, so, I couldn't play with the hide notch or animation settings. I will say that I was really on the fence on this. I wasn't even going to get one at all. I decided to last minute just to see, and send it back if I didn't like it. Now I'm excited for it's arrival next week. I think I'll be very happy with this.
All in all, it's a minor upgrade to the 2's. Even though the screen is much better, the speakers, and the camera's as well, it's not a huge difference. But, including the stand, my monthly payments are only going to be about 3 bucks more a month, so, to me, that's worth it.

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I went to a Verizon store today and check out the 3 and 3 xl myself. I have to say, I DO like it a lot! Like the OP said, in person, the notch is NOT that bad. Having said that, if anyone comes up with a way to partially hide it, I'll still be doing that. I didn't have long to play with it (on lunch from work), but here's what I got:
The screen is WAY better than the 2 xl. Way better. I did not notice any shift either. Compared to my 2 xl, it was definitely a huge improvement. Everything just looks better/clearer.
The glass back was actually pretty cool. You almost wouldn't know it was all glass. However, the matte finish ends just before the edges. That I don't like. The edges are smooth and somewhat slippery. They really should have extended the matte finish onto the edges.
The phone was definitely snappier. I have mine adjusted to .5 for all animations and such, and the 3 xl was much more smooth. I'm sure it will be super quick once that option is changed to .5 when I have mine in hand.
The chin is pretty much identical to the 2 xl. It does not bother me one bit. I would much rather have dual front facing speakers and a chin/notch/forehead than not.
I couldn't really test much else out as I didn't have time. As the OP mentioned, the dev settings were password locked, so, I couldn't play with the hide notch or animation settings. I will say that I was really on the fence on this. I wasn't even going to get one at all. I decided to last minute just to see, and send it back if I didn't like it. Now I'm excited for it's arrival next week. I think I'll be very happy with this.
All in all, it's a minor upgrade to the 2's. Even though the screen is much better, the speakers, and the camera's as well, it's not a huge difference. But, including the stand, my monthly payments are only going to be about 3 bucks more a month, so, to me, that's worth it.
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To me the chin on the 3XL was about 1mm thicker the than the chin on the 2XL. Not sure why...but it is slightly bigger. I could tell thought that it wouldn't take me long to get used to the notch.

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I just stopped by my local Verizon store, and my local Best Buy, and both had demo stations set up.
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The notch looks much better in person. It's really not bad at all. I think everyone is reacting to close-up photos blown up on their monitor, and don't think about the real-world size of the device. However, the Verizon demo app running on the XL has the background of the notification bar blacked out to hide the notch.
The "chin" isn't that bad either (for the same reasons), especially given the trade-off of getting front-facing speakers.
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About 4 months ago, my cousin got his hands on a Pixel 3 XL since his company does QA testing for Google devices. When I asked about the notch at that point, he said that it really is not bad in person. He played with my OnePlus 6 and told me the 3 XL notch isn't any worse, in real world usage. And now the reviews, including yours, seem to agree with what he told me. Now I'm curious to go see one for myself.
I really don't mind the chin, personally, just because front facing speakers would be amazing. The single bottom facing speaker on my OnePlus 6 really is not good at all.
Unfortunately, the immediate deal breaker for me is the 4GB RAM. Especially at that $899 price point. I'm not a spec chaser, by any means. But 4GB, at least in my usage, is not enough. Looking at the RAM usage of my OnePlus 6, I average 4.2GB - 4.4GB on a daily basis with normal usage. With my 2 XL, I'd find that the system would have to close down processes quite frequently to keep RAM in check. This lead to many app redraws throughout the day. It slowed the phone down and got quite annoying. Since switching to the OnePlus 6 with 8GB RAM (6GB would have been plenty), those issues are resolved. So, while I'd love to get that Pixel camera back and wireless charging would be great, I simply can't justify the cost for a phone that will inevitably be slower than my OnePlus 6. I'll hold out to see what the OnePlus 6T offers.

I already ordered the XL, however I checked out the phones in Verizon as well and the regular 3 seemed really nice as well! I'd be totally fine with it

Went to a Verizon store, they had two Pixel 3 XL's (black and pink) and one Pixel 3 (white).
The glass on the front is a lot flatter than the 2 XL glass. The active area of the screen doesn't seem to come too close to the curved edges, so full coverage glass screen protectors should be a lot easier to design and attach compared to the ones for 2 XL.
The third item under Settings / Display / Colors is Adaptive instead of Saturated.
The new OLED screens are a lot more uniform than 2 XL screens. They look less grainy, I didn't see any colored splotches either. Whites appear somewhat cold / bluish when Natural is selected under Settings / Display / Colors.
Apparently, the screen lottery is still a thing for the third generation of Pixels. The black XL screen had a noticeable red tint when viewed at an angle, while the pink XL screen had a blue tint. The tint first appears at an angle somewhat greater than for the 2 XL, so I guess that's progress. The white non-XL also had a slight reddish tint when viewed at an angle, but it was a lot less pronounced.
(Comparison photos were taken at 100% brightness, natural colors, white and dark gray screen test image. Image quality is not great, as I was trying to dodge reflections and glare and keep the tethered display units in place.)
All 3 phones had 64 Gb of internal memory. Both XL's had Micron storage and the non-XL had an SK Hynix chip. All 3 units had Micron-branded RAM.
Android version was listed as 9, no 9.1. yet.
After seeing the demo units, I'm feeling OK about my black 3 XL 128 Gb order.

bsg411 said:
I feel the same way as you do...but if this phone isn't rootable / ROM-able (because of this dam Titan Chip on Board)....it wont be the same as previous pixel/nexus devices.....that will likely be a deal breaker. It already has less battery, no additional ram, huge notch, no LED notification light.....not being rootable/ROM-able will be the straw that breaks the camels back.
Edit: I just came back from the Verizon store as well.....they had the phone in all 3 colors and the pixel stand. The phone looks nice. Lets just hope for root. Also the haptic feedback to me didn't seem better than the P2XL....I heard a few reviews online mention it was considerably improved and the Russian review even claimed it may be better than the iPhone's vibration motor. It didn't feel that way to me tho.
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Do some more research before saying it can't be rooted. Nothing is unbreakable, it's a matter of time and effort. Without the phone in hand we know nothing.
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Kisakuku said:
Went to a Verizon store, they had two Pixel 3 XL's (black and pink) and one Pixel 3 (white).
The glass on the front is a lot flatter than the 2 XL glass. The active area of the screen doesn't seem to come too close to the curved edges, so full coverage glass screen protectors should be a lot easier to design and attach compared to the ones for 2 XL.
The third item under Settings / Display / Colors is Adaptive instead of Saturated.
The new OLED screens are a lot more uniform than 2 XL screens. They look less grainy, I didn't see any colored splotches either. Whites appear somewhat cold / bluish when Natural is selected under Settings / Display / Colors.
Apparently, the screen lottery is still a thing for the third generation of Pixels. The black XL screen had a noticeable red tint when viewed at an angle, while the pink XL screen had a blue tint. The tint first appears at an angle somewhat greater than for the 2 XL, so I guess that's progress. The white non-XL also had a slight reddish tint when viewed at an angle, but it was a lot less pronounced.
(Comparison photos were taken at 100% brightness, natural colors, white and dark gray screen test image. Image quality is not great, as I was trying to dodge reflections and glare and keep the tethered display units in place.)
All 3 phones had 64 Gb of internal memory. Both XL's had Micron storage and the non-XL had an SK Hynix chip. All 3 units had Micron-branded RAM.
Android version was listed as 9, no 9.1. yet.
After seeing the demo units, I'm feeling OK about my black 3 XL 128 Gb order.
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Great post - thank you. What does Device State Locked mean? Is that network sim locked or bootloader locked?

micks_address said:
Great post - thank you. What does Device State Locked mean? Is that network sim locked or bootloader locked?
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locked bootloader.

uicnren said:
locked bootloader.
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Thanks - they are likely to be sim unlocked? Id really love to buy one next Thursday while in the US if I could.. I don't have the funds to pre order on google store till Thursday and even if I did I don't think it would be delivered to my hotel in providence in time.. id be afraid I wouldn't have it by checkout time Friday morning and have to leave without it. I guess the sensible thing to do is bite my lip and have patience for 1st week of November release in Ireland/Uk...
I'm not sure even if I knew someone with a Verizon account could they just buy one for me with my cash and hand it over or would they have to sign up to some sort of Verizon contract extension.. etc... my trip coming one week too early
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i chatted online with verizon rep and they said most phones you can buy with one month sim once off payment with no contract.. she sad they don't have info on pixel 3 yet and that with new phones it can be some time before its available.. probably still worth my while checking a store when i get there thursday to see what options are

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Do some more research before saying it can't be rooted. Nothing is unbreakable, it's a matter of time and effort. Without the phone in hand we know nothing.
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I never said its not rootable... I said it may not be. But yes we will have to wait and see. Deestroy from twrp has his order in so I'm hoping for the best.

God I hope there's no screen 'lottery' this time... That was not a post I wanted to see. The 3 and 3xl units I looked at were perfect. No shift whatsoever. Hopefully the demo units from the other post were just flukes. After 3 tries, my 2 xl screen is nearly perfect. I am NOT doing that again this time. If my 3xl comes and has bad blue (or red) shift, it's going back. Seriously, after last year, if Google hasn't done anything about quality control, I actually will likely be looking at other OEM's... I don't want to, but I'm not playing this game anymore. Anyway, I guess we'll see next week!

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Thanks - they are likely to be sim unlocked? Id really love to buy one next Thursday while in the US if I could.. I don't have the funds to pre order on google store till Thursday and even if I did I don't think it would be delivered to my hotel in providence in time.. id be afraid I wouldn't have it by checkout time Friday morning and have to leave without it. I guess the sensible thing to do is bite my lip and have patience for 1st week of November release in Ireland/Uk...
I'm not sure even if I knew someone with a Verizon account could they just buy one for me with my cash and hand it over or would they have to sign up to some sort of Verizon contract extension.. etc... my trip coming one week too early
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i chatted online with verizon rep and they said most phones you can buy with one month sim once off payment with no contract.. she sad they don't have info on pixel 3 yet and that with new phones it can be some time before its available.. probably still worth my while checking a store when i get there thursday to see what options are
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All the variants sold in the USA should be sim/carrier unlocked. There is only a few (or maybe only one) carrier in the UK who sold them with SIM lock,
However, I do not believe the phones will be available for sale until Friday the 19th, that is official release date I believe.

So i went to look at the demo units at my local VZ store and the notch isn't too bad and could probably live with it. from playing around with it is seems the software implementation around the notch is terrible. would it have killed them to round the edges on the top when the app didn't go into the notch area. it wouldn't auto rotate a little button to rotate showed up on the bottom when i rotated the phone and auto rotate was on i guess there was another option i didn't really look too hard for. The screen is nicer compared to my Pixel 2 XL i had with me, it goes more to each side edge so it does feel a bit bigger in that aspect but when an app stops at the notch it feels the same height, just my take on it.
One issue both demo units had that could be a big problem is the top left corner of the back the side with the camera felt squishy , when i pressed on it i could see it move i could even fit my nail under and it felt like it would start to come apart. I hope it just being a demo unit with those blocky brackets on the back adding extra stress to the back but it was only that corner.
Now im even more on the fence lol

uicnren said:
All the variants sold in the USA should be sim/carrier unlocked. There is only a few (or maybe only one) carrier in the UK who sold them with SIM lock,
However, I do not believe the phones will be available for sale until Friday the 19th, that is official release date I believe.
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Thanks I'm there all day Friday. I've had various responses from best buy chat..some say they are sim locked and I can't buy without a Verizon account. Others say that I can pay once off and walk away..will test the water's next week

micks_address said:
Thanks I'm there all day Friday. I've had various responses from best buy chat..some say they are sim locked and I can't buy without a Verizon account. Others say that I can pay once off and walk away..will test the water's next week
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Do be aware best buy only sells the Verizon variant, that will come with a locked bootloader, if they follow past history it wont be unlockable, at least for a long time, if ever.
If you plan to root and/or ROM the device you will need an unlockable bootloader to do so.
Also, you can do a one time payment for the phone online @ best buy site, no reason you cannot do the same in the store. Having said that, in the past, if you do one-time pay, they have tried to raise the price by $100. They tried it with me when buying iPhones, but you just tell them to check store.google.com and they have to price match.

uicnren said:
Do be aware best buy only sells the Verizon variant, that will come with a locked bootloader, if they follow past history it wont be unlockable, at least for a long time, if ever.
If you plan to root and/or ROM the device you will need an unlockable bootloader to do so.
Also, you can do a one time payment for the phone online @ best buy site, no reason you cannot do the same in the store. Having said that, in the past, if you do one-time pay, they have tried to raise the price by $100. They tried it with me when buying iPhones, but you just tell them to check store.google.com and they have to price match.
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If you do the one time payment payment on the best buy site does it ask for any verizon account details?

Is it worth the upgrade to pixel 5

Is it worth the upgrade to pixel 5, What is your thoughts?

alwynjoshy said:
Is it worth the upgrade to pixel 5, What is your thoughts?
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I don't think it's an upgrade so I'm sticking with the 4xl. It'll probably come down to a few things.
Telephoto or ultra wide
Face unlock or fingerprint
Big forehead or hole punch front (I usually look at the screen and not the bezels when I'm using my phone so bezels are fine)
Battery life won't be that much different especially when the P5 battery save feature comes to the P4XL.

Battery life is said to be AMAZEBALLS on the Pixel 5, significantly better than the Pixel 4 XL
Screen brightness is supposed to be a lot better
Form factor, a much easier device to one hand
In this COVID time wearing masks, I'll take a fingerprint scanner over FaceID

I'm waiting for the Pixel 6. I haven't felt the need for a year to year update since getting the Pixel 2 XL.
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Personally no. I brought one but sent it back after trying it for a while.
I found it a backwards step from the 4XL. For me it was the hole punch, smaller screen and the top under screen speaker that put me off. Fingerprint unlock was nice in this current mask climate, it did feel nice and light in the hand and I do like the idea of reverse wireless charging.
The battery life on my 4xl is pretty good, I like face unlock and I'll rather have a bezel than a hole punch camera which makes the top notification bar a lot deeper, thus losing more screen space.

Si73 said:
Personally no. I brought one but sent it back after trying it for a while.
I found it a backwards step from the 4XL. For me it was the hole punch, smaller screen and the top under screen speaker that put me off. Fingerprint unlock was nice in this current mask climate, it did feel nice and light in the hand and I do like the idea of reverse wireless charging.
The battery life on my 4xl is pretty good, I like face unlock and I'll rather have a bezel than a hole punch camera which makes the top notification bar a lot deeper, thus losing more screen space.
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Where did you buy it?

Snapdragon 8 series to 7 series, qhd+ screen to fhd, face unlock to old school finger print scanner on the back.... Not an upgrade in my book

It doesn't worth buying a pixel 5 from my point of view. I will keep my pixel4xl and waiting for pixel6.

Yep, I actually just purchased the 4XL at Best Buy. Got a price match to $600, and I had $450 in Best Buy rewards certificates, so $150 out of pocket, and another $60 for case and screen protector. I'll keep this until Pixel 6, or 7?? Pixel 5 does seem like a downgrade in many ways, and I could care less about 5G. I have Gigabit Fiber at home, and my normal phone service is more than sufficient. Battery is the only thing I don't like, but I'm ordering a battery case, and I already have a portable battery charger. Still love it.
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I was considering the P5 as I can get one through work, but I think I will stick with my 4 XL and await the Pixel 6.

I also have the pixel 4xl and feel that the pixel 5 is a downgrade to the pixel 4xl. Now that we're getting closer to the next pixel release I'm glad I waited. It will be super interesting how tensor chip will be compared to apples bionic or Samsung exynos chips. The only thing I don't like is having a hole punch in the middle of the screen. If prefer it in the corner if we had to have one. I will also miss face unlock. It's simple and you don't have to do anything but look and it does the rest compared to an iphone where it unlocks then have to swipe to go to do what you wanna do. I also would miss soli especially while driving. Super helpful being able to swipe your hand for next track or pause. Most of the time it works for me but others have a hard time with it. But losing soli is not a deal breaker

If you have a 4XL I wouldn't call it an upgrade. You'd be better served waiting for the pixel 6/pro.

Only way I'll end up with a Pixel 5 is if my 4XL bits it on me. I sure hope that doesn't happen! Not upgrade material imo. Maybe if I didn't already have the 4xl... Looking forward to the 6a.