Question Backup phone for pixel 7 pro? - Google Pixel 7 Pro

Helloz
I haven't been able to make my mind so i decided to see what u guys think.
So now im rocking a 256gb pixel 7 pro.
My old phone was one plus 7 pro which is still in a very good shape. Like my all phones it was rooted.
My wife's old phone is an galaxy note 20 ultra which is in a good shape as well but not rooted.
I have to give out one of them and keep one.
Im really confused.
The OnePlus 7 pro with its no hole punch screen and its huge huge support and mod community. I really like the privacy of having a popup front camera. Note that i had to root my phone to get volte.
On the other the note 20 ultra. Damn this phone is one heck of a piece of hardware. I think the version we have is the oxynos. This phone is supported in my country and many others without any modifications or rooting. So here its advantages are, 5g, volte, esim capabilities.
What do u guys think?

I have oneplus7pro, the best phone so far,
but it is a time to move to the newer one,
and pixel 7 pro has the best software support and the easiest way to get root and other things.
however, that useless hole on the middle of the screen is highly annoying.

I have a OnePlus 7T and have been thinking of going back to it, it fully supports 2-SIM w/Different RingTones. Unfortunately, the last OS update for it was v12/12.1 and was pushed out in Nov/Dec 22. The only thing keeping me from going back is the Cameras on the Pixel 7 Pro. If you're doubting to get a Pixel 7 Pro - get the OnePlus 10 Pro instead.

Samsung note 20 is clearly the better device for multiple reasons.

robbbzilla said:
Samsung note 20 is clearly the better device for multiple reasons.
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Those a cool phones, have a coworker using one of them and the stylus pen appears to work great if you're taking inventory on new equipment.

I have personally used many OnePlus phones including the 7 Pro. I have had several Samsung phones all of which were sent back for various flaws too numerous to discuss here. Every OnePlus phone has been excellent for me! I highly recommend that you stay with the OnePlus phone because they just work! YMMV

x111 said:
however, that useless hole on the middle of the screen is highly annoying.
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Genuine question here:
Are you deducing that no face unlock would be a win...? Or do you just greatly prefer the sliding front facing camera (so that it's not always visible)?

NippleSauce said:
Genuine question here:
Are you deducing that no face unlock would be a win...? Or do you just greatly prefer the sliding front facing camera (so that it's not always visible)?
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never used and I genuinely will not ever use face unlock.
I'm using front camera only for video calls and would prefer low quality under display camera somewhere on the very top corner.
It is highly annoying that manufacturers cannot deliver this simple solution.

x111 said:
never used and I genuinely will not ever use face unlock.
I'm using face camera only for video calls and would prefer low quality under display camera somewhere on the very top corner.
I highly annoying that manufacturer cannot deliver this simple solution.
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Gotcha, thanks. Just note that it is *not* a simple solution to put a modern front facing camera at either of the front corners of the display (due to hardware restrictions). The only way to do so in a simple manner would prevent the front facing camera from being utilized properly without holding the phone in landscape mode - which I don't imagine many people would feel comfortable doing =/

x111 said:
never used and I genuinely will not ever use face unlock.
I'm using front camera only for video calls and would prefer low quality under display camera somewhere on the very top corner.
It is highly annoying that manufacturers cannot deliver this simple solution.
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It's not a simple solution because almost no one has your needs. Most people want Face unlock. And they want it to work. They demand more out of a Front Facing Camera than a low quality video call device

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It's not a simple solution because almost no one has your needs. Most people want Face unlock. And they want it to work. They demand more out of a Front Facing Camera than a low quality video call device
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I don't and will never use a front facing camera for unlocking my device, but I have to agree with you. People want a front-facing camera for that face. Unlock in for high quality video calls with family and friends. Also, putting a camera under the display so you can't see it should not be assumed to be "simple."
We often lose sight of what it took to develop and make these devices that we use from the planning, the development, the gathering of the raw materials, the engineering, etc. Are truly marvelous feats. That can be said for almost everything around us that we take for granted! We are very blessed and lucky to be living in this time!

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Most people want Face unlock.
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And from whence did you glean this tidbit?
I never used it, and I have no desire to use it. In fact everyone I know does not use it!
Hmmmm?

jaseman said:
And from whence did you glean this tidbit?
I never used it, and I have no desire to use it. In fact everyone I know does not use it!
Hmmmm?
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The huge number of people that demanded it on the Pixel 6 Pro. Then the number that complained about how slow it was at first.
Feel free to go look at that forum.
What YOU want is not what most people want. And BTW, that camera is barely noticeable. I have the Energy ring and I still barely see it.

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I'm torn.... Lil help

Current note 3 owner and just got an invite from a friend.
Debating on jumping into this device and was wondering what everyone's opinion is by comparison?
I have a tmobile note 3, unlocked & rooted running wicked rom with aosp theme.
My most important factors are battery & camera.
Thanks
FormeriPhoney said:
Current note 3 owner and just got an invite from a friend.
Debating on jumping into this device and was wondering what everyone's opinion is by comparison?
I have a tmobile note 3, unlocked & rooted running wicked rom with aosp theme.
My most important factors are battery & camera.
Thanks
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I have the exact same Note III running Tweaked and the same theme.
The battery on the OnePlus One crushes my Note III, as for the camera...well it's about a tie. I do miss eraser mode from my Note III bit not enough to start using it again.
I've had my OnePlus One for about two months now and my poor Note III just sits on my desk. I just updated it to the latest Tweaked the other day but it still just sits there.
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I have the exact same Note III running Tweaked and the same theme.
The battery on the OnePlus One crushes my Note III, as for the camera...well it's about a tie. I do miss eraser mode from my Note III bit not enough to start using it again.
I've had my OnePlus One for about two months now and my poor Note III just sits on my desk. I just updated it to the latest Tweaked the other day but it still just sits there.
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Good to know man thanks. I might pick it up and then jump on the note 4 in a few months.
I jumped from a note 3 just last week and got the phone last night. So far I'm loving it way more than my note. Granted, I was on the att note 3 so I didn't have an unlocked bootloader. But build wise I think this phone feels better in my hand than the note did.
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Note 3 is better all in all. And the battery is better and the camera.
I'm not sure why people ask these questions, there's no real answer, only opinions.
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I'm not sure why people ask these questions, there's no real answer, only opinions.
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That's why if you spent the 3 seconds to read the OP I asked for everyone's "opinion" not a definitive answer
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That's why if you spent the 3 seconds to read the OP I asked for everyone's "opinion" not a definitive answer
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I read the OP, I still fall to see the point. As you can see you get one guy saying 'X' is better and another guy saying 'Y' is better. In the end you get no useful information and you need to make the decision for yourself.
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I read the OP, I still fall to see the point. As you can see you get one guy saying 'X' is better and another guy saying 'Y' is better. In the end you get no useful information and you need to make the decision for yourself.
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I can see the point, it's kind of like bouncing an idea off of someone.
Sure he was probably already leaning one way or another but the majority of people seem to agree and resonate with his opinion, so that's the choice he's choosing. Had they not agreed, maybe he wouldn't have or maybe he would, either way he'd probably feel better that 'some' people see it the same as him.
That's my thoughts anyway, I like reading these, as long as they aren't huge lol. I think they serve a good enough purpose for the people creating them.
But that's just my opinion
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georgebest said:
Note 3 is better all in all. And the battery is better and the camera.
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I have both an international note 3 and a Oneplus one.
The Oneplus camera is better in low light.
Oneplus battery subjectively seems slightly better due to less bloatware apps running in the background.
The Oneplus firmware is also much smoother again due to lack of bloat.
Only real advantage of note 3 is the pen itself so if you don't need that I'd go for it.
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I'm in the same position op. So i appreciate the constructive answers within your thread.
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I also have Note 3 T mobile running Tweaked. Love it. I did have a Oneplus One as well. I also liked that one. I had to send it back however as my volume keys did not work. Actually right now, I am trying to decide if I want to try with another one or not. I really liked the phone. My main concern, and it is a big one, is that I might get another bum device from OnePlus. It took one month, literally, to get approval to send my last device back for refund. If I get another bad one, I don't know if I wanna deal with that, again. I am still waiting on the refund too by the way, but should have that this week.
The phones are both great, but I think you gotta consider the customer support too here. Supposedly OP is working on that aspect though, but I haven't seen it yet.
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IMO after messing around alot with my freind's note 3 and owning a opo, if i had to compare i would say they are about equal,both have their advantages.
I still have my Note 3 with me as a development phone. As I still have KNOX 0x0 and am not binded to any bootloader lock, I just flash everything on my Note 3/install everything on my Note 3 first before my OPO.
In my opinion, the camera is WAY better on the OPO. The focus and the clarity of the lens is far superior than the dumbed down, slow focusing, Note 3 camera. Try this with your Note 3: Put your finger 10cm away from the camera and try focusing on just the finger with a bunch of paper in the background. This takes around 5-7 tap to focuses compared to OPO's 1-2 taps. I am using the same camera apk file to compare - Google Camera, however no difference when using TW camera and/or CM Camera.
The screen is the only thing you would miss your Note 3 for. The screen on the OPO looks a bit washed out compared to the dense blacks and the vibrant colors. OPO still has great viewing angles, but you're comparing a JDI with an AMOLED - two different technologies.
The OPO has eMMC v5.0 which means faster data speeds compared to the Note 3.
Sound, not really much of a difference. The fact that there's two speakers on the OPO vs. the only one speaker on the Note 3 shouldn't be a deciding factor as the speaker on the OPO isn't running on real stereo but dual mono.
Front facing camera bump up to 5MP is better for those selfie-lovers. Not my thing but if it's yours, then go ahead.
When holding the device, I feel like holding the Note 3 with a full aluminium bumper and an aluminium battery cover actually FEELS NICER than the OPO, as the OPO's thin profile more heightened design feels more delicate to the touch. The OPO definitely feels more premium than the Note 3, as the Note 3 feels like you can break/cause damage to any bit of the phone (screen movement in/out, home button alignment issue/unresponsive click, S Pen slot crack, etc) but with the OPO you have a more sleek profile with a more premium feel.
My 0.02$
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I still have my Note 3 with me as a development phone. As I still have KNOX 0x0 and am not binded to any bootloader lock, I just flash everything on my Note 3/install everything on my Note 3 first before my OPO.
In my opinion, the camera is WAY better on the OPO. The focus and the clarity of the lens is far superior than the dumbed down, slow focusing, Note 3 camera. Try this with your Note 3: Put your finger 10cm away from the camera and try focusing on just the finger with a bunch of paper in the background. This takes around 5-7 tap to focuses compared to OPO's 1-2 taps. I am using the same camera apk file to compare - Google Camera, however no difference when using TW camera and/or CM Camera.
The screen is the only thing you would miss your Note 3 for. The screen on the OPO looks a bit washed out compared to the dense blacks and the vibrant colors. OPO still has great viewing angles, but you're comparing a JDI with an AMOLED - two different technologies.
The OPO has eMMC v5.0 which means faster data speeds compared to the Note 3.
Sound, not really much of a difference. The fact that there's two speakers on the OPO vs. the only one speaker on the Note 3 shouldn't be a deciding factor as the speaker on the OPO isn't running on real stereo but dual mono.
Front facing camera bump up to 5MP is better for those selfie-lovers. Not my thing but if it's yours, then go ahead.
When holding the device, I feel like holding the Note 3 with a full aluminium bumper and an aluminium battery cover actually FEELS NICER than the OPO, as the OPO's thin profile more heightened design feels more delicate to the touch. The OPO definitely feels more premium than the Note 3, as the Note 3 feels like you can break/cause damage to any bit of the phone (screen movement in/out, home button alignment issue/unresponsive click, S Pen slot crack, etc) but with the OPO you have a more sleek profile with a more premium feel.
My 0.02$
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Greatest post ever man. Thanks a million

Is the camera worth it?

I really love the Oneplus 6, top to bottom, don't care the missing of the stereo speaker or the notch (cause OOS seem to deal with it quite good)
The only issue keeps me from buying it is the camera. I have seen a lot of reviews and comments about the camera and they are pretty mixed which confused me.
I need the phone to last for about 3 years or so and I mainly use it when I travel and to takes photos. I heard that there are updates that fix things but still read that there are issues.
Can you guys give me your own opinion about the camera and if I should go for it or move to the Galaxy S8 plus?
P/s: quite sure that I will try to use Gcam instead on both phone, have it on my old phone and it absolutely surprised me cuz the image came out quite nice for such an old phone.
Not a fan of any brands (except Iphone which I don't really like, but I do like Ipad and I don't hate Apple by any means) so if you have other recommendation under $500 then feels free to say, so far I only see these 2 are the best for what my budget can buy.
Thank you for your helps.
It's right there with the best cameras. It beats then in certain shots and they beat it on certain shots in the comparison tests. I still think it might be a hair behind the likes of the s9, pixel 2xl and I think it's better then the iPhone overall. It's close in low light to them, as good if not better in good light and it handled the bright areas better then dinner of this phones in not blowing out the highlights.
I have zero complaints and I'm an enthusiast photographer. Unless I'm doing a wedding or something really important, I have no issues using this camera. It more then does the job. Of course you can get a shot it doesn't handle well, but every PHONE is the same way. None will replace a dslr
The camera is mint works amazing!
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It's right there with the best cameras. It beats then in certain shots and they beat it on certain shots in the comparison tests. I still think it might be a hair behind the likes of the s9, pixel 2xl and I think it's better then the iPhone overall. It's close in low light to them, as good if not better in good light and it handled the bright areas better then dinner of this phones in not blowing out the highlights.
I have zero complaints and I'm an enthusiast photographer. Unless I'm doing a wedding or something really important, I have no issues using this camera. It more then does the job. Of course you can get a shot it doesn't handle well, but every PHONE is the same way. None will replace a dslr
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Wow glad to hear from a photographer, I would definitely pick OP 6 if I don't mind the camera as I used to, but planned to go on multiple vacations with it and personally loves to take scenery photos so your reply helps a bunch.
Gonna take another look and get the OP 6. My friend has a deal for it with about 100$ off
No, it's not worth it. Theres bad oil painting effect in low light. Pics are very hit and miss, some are great, some are awful and now I have dust under the lens and I have a black spot I can't get rid of on photos. I certainly couldn't recommend it.
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No, it's not worth it. Theres bad oil painting effect in low light. Pics are very hit and miss, some are great, some are awful and now I have dust under the lens and I have a black spot I can't get rid of on photos. I certainly couldn't recommend it.
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Darn that sounds bad, but I head it only apply to A6003 model?
Some of the people I know used the OP 6 but none reported that issues ((
But sounds worrying
Ethan140310 said:
Darn that sounds bad, but I head it only apply to A6003 model?
Some of the people I know used the OP 6 but none reported that issues ((
But sounds worrying
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Its not bad. On my recent trip to Canada and USA, I packed my Nikon 850. I took over 1200 pictures during my 2 weeks vacation. I might have used my Nikon for less than 75 shots. Convenience of phone camera outweighs the hassle of lugging a complete system. Unless you are taking pictures for a luving, this phone camera will be more than suffice to satisfy your shutterbug needs.
I strongly believe that it's not the camera but eye behind the camera that make or break the picture. If you are little dissatisfied with extremely low light shots, you can enhance in post production. Make sure to keep HDR option on. I had S8+ abd my wife still has S9 and I can tell you from a bormal viewing distance, you could not tell the difference apart. Remember, you can always switch to pro camera mode for better control. Hope this helps. Good luck.
Photos quality
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/photo-quality-t3772651
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/video-quality-t3772652
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/low-light-t3772650
i will not suggest samsung phone if you love to take pic on kid or pet in indoor with (basically any moving object in low light on samsung phone come up blur mess), other than that i agree s8 has a bit better on camera, and you may need to get use to the very slow update on samsung
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Photos quality
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/photo-quality-t3772651
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I do really understand why you bring the links here but seriously I read all of those (except the video one since I'm not fond of that anyway, have like 1 or 2 videos taken with my 2.5 years old phone) and it's really confusing, some said good some said bad (and they do have evidence)
I check on xda (which tbh my trusty place to find user experience) and they are mixed.
I check on youtube with those reviewers I think that are not bs, and it's still mixed.
I check all those reviews on the internet and other forums, and it's still mixed.
I don't usually do these Q&A on XDA (this actually my first) because this is just too hard to decide this time.
Thanks you for your help but it yet solve my confusions.
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i will not suggest samsung phone if you love to take pic on kid or pet in indoor with (basically any moving object in low light on samsung phone come up blur mess), other than that i agree s8 has a bit better on camera, and you may need to get use to the very slow update on samsung
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That's interesting, I use it for my vacations and I love to take scenery shots (and probally a few shot with my friends or selfies but only a little as I don't like to take photos of myself or person in general)
I'm still yet decided if I stick with Samsung software or move to a custom rom since they both have pros and cons (and somehow I find the S8 forum is not really active?)
but I totally love the experience that I saw on the OP 6 so far.
If you have either of the phone or both, I would really love to hear more of your opinion, thank you.
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Its not bad. On my recent trip to Canada and USA, I packed my Nikon 850. I took over 1200 pictures during my 2 weeks vacation. I might have used my Nikon for less than 75 shots. Convenience of phone camera outweighs the hassle of lugging a complete system. Unless you are taking pictures for a luving, this phone camera will be more than suffice to satisfy your shutterbug needs.
I strongly believe that it's not the camera but eye behind the camera that make or break the picture. If you are little dissatisfied with extremely low light shots, you can enhance in post production. Make sure to keep HDR option on. I had S8+ abd my wife still has S9 and I can tell you from a bormal viewing distance, you could not tell the difference apart. Remember, you can always switch to pro camera mode for better control. Hope this helps. Good luck.
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That sounds really interesting, can i have a few of your shots to check out cause really I love the phone just the camera is bugging me.
If I need a phone purely for daily experience then this definitely in my pocket right now
Scenery shots will be best since I will use it mostly for scenery, thank you so much!
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That sounds really interesting, can i have a few of your shots to check out cause really I love the phone just the camera is bugging me.
If I need a phone purely for daily experience then this definitely in my pocket right now
Scenery shots will be best since I will use it mostly for scenery, thank you so much!
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I will post few sample shots thus evening whe I return home.
Ethan140310 said:
That sounds really interesting, can i have a few of your shots to check out cause really I love the phone just the camera is bugging me.
If I need a phone purely for daily experience then this definitely in my pocket right now
Scenery shots will be best since I will use it mostly for scenery, thank you so much!
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Here are some sample shots.
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Here are some sample shots.
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That looks absolutely good!
Already contacted my friend for the deal but there is an issue bugging me tho.
Others said that they have some issue with dust in the lens, do you have any idea about this?
Ethan140310 said:
That looks absolutely good!
Already contacted my friend for the deal but there is an issue bugging me tho.
Others said that they have some issue with dust in the lens, do you have any idea about this?
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I am not sure who and why they are saying about the dust issues. Absolutely no dust issues here. Previously posted shots are the proof. You would have noticed diffraction if there was any dust. To put your mind at ease, spend $2 and buy tempered glass lens protector on Amazon, eBay, or Aliexpress. I dont even use cover or screen protector for my phone (never have used for the last 15 years or so). Rather than worrying about protecting, enjoy by actually using the gadget-my two cents worth advice.
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I am not sure who and why they are saying about the dust issues. Absolutely no dust issues here. Previously posted shots are the proof. You would have noticed diffraction if there was any dust. To put your mind at ease, spend $2 and buy tempered glass lens protector on Amazon, eBay, or Aliexpress. I dont even use cover or screen protector for my phone (never have used for the last 15 years or so). Rather than worrying about protecting, enjoy by actually using the gadget-my two cents worth advice.
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I tend to drop my phone so probably a shockproof case (and be more careful since it's glass) but thank you so much for the advice! :highfive::highfive:

6t compared

I'm not sure if this is where this question belongs but anyway:
My favorite phone I've ever had was the Nexus 6p. I loved how big and wide it was. I loved how easily I could root and flash custom roms to it. I loved all the modification of the OS I could do to it. I currently have the 8+, but am looking for an upgrade. The pixel XL 3 is probably going to be if not 700+ close to it. So, would you say the 6t (not out yet) and 6 OnePlus is similar? Is it easy to root, good screen, battery life etc? Is it over hyped? What is your opinion.
Thanks
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I think OP6 and OP6T will be almost the same just some facelift modifications.
So...
Easy root --> yes
Good screen --> I would say yes
Battery life --> isn't the best, but it's good.
Over hyped? --> never!?
I'm guessing it'll cost more for very similar to identical internal hardware.
The only things that would get me to upgrade are a battery 4000+mAh, a MUCH much better camera (like, it'd have to be the best on the market by far for sure, I'm pretty happy with the OP6 camera), or if it somehow ended up cheaper than the OP6. And even for me to upgrade then, I'd have to accidentally break my OP6 first for me to spend that much money again.
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I think OP6 and OP6T will be almost the same just some facelift modifications.
So...
Easy root --> yes
Good screen --> I would say yes
Battery life --> isn't the best, but it's good.
Over hyped? --> never!
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I'm guessing it'll cost more for very similar to identical internal hardware.
The only things that would get me to upgrade are a battery 4000+mAh, a MUCH much better camera (like, it'd have to be the best on the market by far for sure, I'm pretty happy with the OP6 camera), or if it somehow ended up cheaper than the OP6. And even for me to upgrade then, I'd have to accidentally break my OP6 first for me to spend that much money again.
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What about charging it? Can you use a regular cable? I don't like that you have to use the propitary hardware. Especially since I'm currently upgrading my home to use power outlets among other reasons.
I think the 6 and 6t will be similar in most ways. I mainly see 2 aspects that can make a difference:
1. the removal/loss of the rear fingerprint scanner.
I'm pretty pissed by that. I don't know if banking apps will let you use it for example (the apps will have to be updated/modified because the bottom half of the screen will have to make way for an area on the bottom where you need to place your finger on the screen to unlock). of course apps will adapt to the front in-screen fingerprint scanner but who knows how fast this will happen.
Plus no more fingerprint gestures while the phone is on (pulling down status bar, single traps, double taps,...).
Also, the in screen scanner is going to be slower than the standard rear scanners and when you grab your phone in your pocket where you can now just unlock it by feeling the spot in the back (and the phone comes unlocked and with screen on when it's in front of your face) you will have to actually look at the screen and place your finger on the exact spot where it has to rest in order for it to unlock. Don't see the point in that because face unlock would most likely unlock during that moment of search and press.
2. maybe this point is false, but possibly there will be more development for the 6t due to the fact that it will be available to a much wider audience being offered by t-mobile in the US. so far OnePlus phones have not been available in any US phone carrier store so way more people are going to actually see a OnePlus at the place they usually go to look for phones.
I don't expect the camera to be better than in the 6.
The phone's speed will be identical since it's using the same hardware.
You're missing out on the 3.5mm headphone jack in case that's important to you. And perhaps they will add wireless charging with the 6t (we'll see).
I had a Nexus 6P before as well.
Personally I find the screen ratio of the nexus better than the 19:9 from OP6.
Both are missing a sd-slot although the OP6 is dual sim but both slots are sim only.
Screen quality is good but compared to Samsung it is just average. Not sure if it's the quality or the colour adjustments.
I often have non-recognized touch inputs but this could be due to the screen protector it comes with. I will remove mine and see if it gets better.
The fingerprint reader has it bugs as well when it does not recognize my finger and ask for the pin. Something I never had with my nexus.
Audio speaker quality is ok not more. Better use earphones.
Camera is good but by far not the best.
Rooting is easy but a bit different because of a/b slots. You get used to it after first flash (or boot loop ).
Battery life is good for me.
USB is USB type C but it is a USB2.0 connection so HDMI adapters and stuff are not working (at least not for me).
Volume slider is a nice extra.
OOS is quite good too altough I completly debloated it with xXx magisk custom rom.
Would I buy it again?
Yes. The hardware package is very good compared to it'sprice.
My next phone needs a sd-slot again. I hope OP thinks about that again...
Will I upgrade to OP6T?
No. No need for me. And the missing audio jack is a no go for me at this time .
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I think the 6 and 6t will be similar in most ways. I mainly see 2 aspects that can make a difference:
1. the removal/loss of the rear fingerprint scanner.
I'm pretty pissed by that. I don't know if banking apps will let you use it for example (the apps will have to be updated/modified because the bottom half of the screen will have to make way for an area on the bottom where you need to place your finger on the screen to unlock). of course apps will adapt to the front in-screen fingerprint scanner but who knows how fast this will happen.
Plus no more fingerprint gestures while the phone is on (pulling down status bar, single traps, double taps,...).
Also, the in screen scanner is going to be slower than the standard rear scanners and when you grab your phone in your pocket where you can now just unlock it by feeling the spot in the back (and the phone comes unlocked and with screen on when it's in front of your face) you will have to actually look at the screen and place your finger on the exact spot where it has to rest in order for it to unlock. Don't see the point in that because face unlock would most likely unlock during that moment of search and press.
2. maybe this point is false, but possibly there will be more development for the 6t due to the fact that it will be available to a much wider audience being offered by t-mobile in the US. so far OnePlus phones have not been available in any US phone carrier store so way more people are going to actually see a OnePlus at the place they usually go to look for phones.
I don't expect the camera to be better than in the 6.
The phone's speed will be identical since it's using the same hardware.
You're missing out on the 3.5mm headphone jack in case that's important to you. And perhaps they will add wireless charging with the 6t (we'll see).
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1) I agree wholeheartedly. A rear fingerprint scanner placed properly is better than anything up front.
The counterargument usually goes - if your phone is lying on your desk, then it is easier to unlock it without picking it up.
My counter-counterargument is that if you want to unlock the phone, because you saw a notification, you probably would want to pick it up anyway. In other words, if the phone is requiring your unlocked activities, you would probably want to pick it up.
One exception that immediately jumps to my mind - you see a Gmail notification, and you want to read the full text without picking up the phone... I suppose that happens. Sometimes.
2) T-Mobile is probably a very small carrier compared to Asia, where these phones are mostly sold.
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What about charging it? Can you use a regular cable? I don't like that you have to use the propitary hardware. Especially since I'm currently upgrading my home to use power outlets among other reasons.
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Yes u can use a non OP cable and block but it won't fast charge.
Loss of led light stops me from 6t
Jack. No jack no joy.
I NEVER use lock with finger, for instance. I would be more happy with inclusion of SD reader....
Times.... ((
I previously had a Galaxy S8+, upgraded to Note8 and then upgraded to OnePlus 6. This is the first phone in ages that I've really liked, even though it has a bit smaller screen than I would really like.
Compared to the Samsung S8+/Note8:
The screen isn't as good as Samsungs in direct sunlight. On samsung I never had to brighten the screen to read on screen, but with OP6 it is necessary. No big deal though.
No SD-card slot.
No wireless charging.
But everything else is just simply better! Better battery life, snappier android, We've got PIE! samsung go eat your Oreos. Lots of customization with ROMs. Easy bootloader unlock and root, no hassle getting the latest official roms, no regrets from me, I'm on the OnePlus train now!
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What about charging it? Can you use a regular cable? I don't like that you have to use the propitary hardware. Especially since I'm currently upgrading my home to use power outlets among other reasons.
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Sure. You can use regular cable, but the loading speed is slow.
Fast charging works with original charger only.
6T is supposed to have an even faster charger.
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Loss of led light stops me from 6t
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wtf? that's getting dropped too?!?
one more reason to go with the 6 than with the 6t.
what good reasons do you all see choosing the 6t over the 6?
that the notch is smaller?
that there is a bit more screen and less bezels?
the slightly bigger battery?
maybe waterproof and maybe wireless charging?
can't really find a reason that makes the 6t more interesting than the 6...
Without using the dash, are we talking like 3 hours to charge or like 2 hours
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Loss of led light stops me from 6t
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I have not seen this mentioned before. Where did you read that?
Thanks
Reading all your comments.... I'm planning to update my OPO (still a great phone), but OP6 or OP6T.......and price will probably be +600€ :/
FrenchSparda said:
Reading all your comments.... I'm planning to update my OPO (still a great phone), but OP6 or OP6T.......and price will probably be +600€ :/
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The OP6 can be had for 510$ while the 6T will cost around 550€.
If you want the jack and don't care about in-screen fp sensor, the OP6 is a better choice.
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wtf? that's getting dropped too?!?
one more reason to go with the 6 than with the 6t.
what good reasons do you all see choosing the 6t over the 6?
that the notch is smaller?
that there is a bit more screen and less bezels?
the slightly bigger battery?
maybe waterproof and maybe wireless charging?
can't really find a reason that makes the 6t more interesting than the 6...
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There is no wireless charging according to Pete Lau.

Pop Up Camera

Is anyone actually interested with the popup camera?
Would be a sturdy one so i don't mind it. There might be a fraction of a second delay on the Face Unlock though.
With the immersive display experience the popup will be totally worth it :good:
I am looking forward to it. Something new and different. Im not worried as many are about the durability or life. I see no reason why it wouldn't hold up for a few years even though it will only have to last me a year. Never
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Would be a sturdy one so i don't mind it. There might be a fraction of a second delay on the Face Unlock though.
With the immersive display experience the popup will be totally worth it :good:
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schmeggy929 said:
I am looking forward to it. Something new and different. Im not worried as many are about the durability or life. I see no reason why it wouldn't hold up for a few years even though it will only have to last me a year. Never
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Faceunlocks wouldn't matter much anyways as most people would be using the Fingerprint scanner, yet I doubt the durability of any moving parts in a phone
I'd rather have a popup camera than a notch.
Superguy said:
I'd rather have a popup camera than a notch.
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Popup cameras are too vulnerable, i'm against notch myself, but those better implications of it like the holepunch or the drop(OP6T) seems a better option
pankajkh said:
Popup cameras are too vulnerable, i'm against notch myself, but those better implications of it like the holepunch or the drop(OP6T) seems a better option
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i agree
people are forgetting that others will be using the phone for a while, and then re-sell
say 3 years down the track, and 4 owners later the camera stops working - and the user is non-tech savvy, thats negative branding right there, people wont know why its not working, they will just know that it stopped and blame the OEM.
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i agree
people are forgetting that others will be using the phone for a while, and then re-sell
say 3 years down the track, and 4 owners later the camera stops working - and the user is non-tech savvy, thats negative branding right there, people wont know why its not working, they will just know that it stopped and blame the OEM.
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Totally Agreed!
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I'd rather have a popup camera than a notch.
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Agree. I use a front facing camera two or three times a year. A notchless screen would be appreciated every day.
Notch sux! Also, Rarely use front camera...
Not sure about the popup camera, I don't like the idea of having to use that kind of garbage to avail of face unlock. I'm quite considering buying the pro version if it has 12gb ram 256 rom 3.5mm jack, notch or no notch doesn't matter to me.
plskillme said:
Not sure about the popup camera, I don't like the idea of having to use that kind of garbage to avail of face unlock. I'm quite considering buying the pro version if it has 12gb ram 256 rom 3.5mm jack, notch or no notch doesn't matter to me.
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12GB Ram is actually overkill, most users wouldn't exceed 4Gb of Usage and well the 3.5mm jack could be a reason!
I don't think there is any pop up camera in OP7. The OP 7 Pro has pop up camera that is confirmed.
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I don't think there is any pop up camera in OP7. The OP 7 Pro has pop up camera that is confirmed.
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Yes the renders only point at the OP7 pro having a pop up camera
I had the Vivo Nex S and the pop-up camera is pretty sturdy. Looking fwd to the 7 Pro.
I use the selfie cam maybe once or twice a year so yep, i'd be perfectly happy with it.
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plskillme said:
Not sure about the popup camera, I don't like the idea of having to use that kind of garbage to avail of face unlock. I'm quite considering buying the pro version if it has 12gb ram 256 rom 3.5mm jack, notch or no notch doesn't matter to me.
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What is the point of 12GB/ram when Oneplus limits the crap out of apps able to run in the background?
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Yes the renders only point at the OP7 pro having a pop up camera
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kind of upsetting that the 7 pro has UFS 3.0 and the standard 7 doesnt.
i really liked the design of the 6T - the pop up camera looks gimmicky.
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kind of upsetting that the 7 pro has UFS 3.0 and the standard 7 doesnt.
i really liked the design of the 6T - the pop up camera looks gimmicky.
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Vanilla OP7 is supposed to have UFS 3.0 as well.
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Vanilla OP7 is supposed to have UFS 3.0 as well.
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oh
last time i read i thought it was only the 7pro that had it
nontheless, the op7pro screen is better, and IIRC the standard 7 doesnt have a 90hz screen.
still though, UFS was one of the main reasons for getting the 7pro and not the 7, i may look into the differences alittle more now.
Seeing the Launch Video, I'm a little less doubtful about the Pop up camera, it's seems durable !

proximity sensor issues?

Hi. have any of you noticed issues with proximity sensors? im talking about situation where on calling someone on any app screen goes black and cant even be woken up with power key or anything. it lights up automatically when the other person/your caller hangs on call. like the phone is thinking its next to head even though its not.
i have tested with some app from playstore to check if the sensor is ok, and seems like it is working properly.
is there a hardware sensor on this phone? where is it located? is there an ability to fix it? is it software issue? anyone else experiencing it? is there a way to always wake up screen with power key?
It's an issue with pocket mode. I had to send my 8T back and got a refund because of it. The phone would lock me out and not let me do anything also happened when I'm on a call. Turn off pocket mode and check to see if that fixes it. I didn't want to have to turn off an essential feature of the phone to fix something that shouldn't have been an issue in the first place so I sent mine back. Luckily I noticed it within the 15 day return period. Got a refund and bought another 8T. This new one works great
Really sad to hear about your issues with the proximity sensor. This is the exact reason why I sent my Galaxy S20 FE back! I was not having the problems with the screen itself like so many others were/are...but I like to use double tap to wake (used it for years now) and every time I pulled the FE out of my pocket the screen was ON with multiple taps being entered all over the place. What a mess! I blame everyone, and I mean EVERYONE who has called, and keeps calling for smaller BEZELS! What is wrong with a little bezel on the top where all the necessary sensors (including the selfie camera) can be housed? Does anyone like it when their phone malfunctions because their proximity sensor is crap, or that it is virtual and virtually does NOT WORK? Does anyone LIKE the look of a NOTCH, or a PUNCH HOLE in comparison to having an unblemished screen??? So many things have become basically intolerable because of stupid, useless changes in these necessary tools. I hope that someone besides Sony will see the light and return to what is practical for the functioning of our phones. Rant over...for now...and I hate to say it but my 8T is functioning properly. So whatever way they have implemented pocket mode...it is working for me, and this makes me very happy. I truly hope you can get your issues resolved one way or another!
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Hi. have any of you noticed issues with proximity sensors? im talking about situation where on calling someone on any app screen goes black and cant even be woken up with power key or anything. it lights up automatically when the other person/your caller hangs on call. like the phone is thinking its next to head even though its not.
i have tested with some app from playstore to check if the sensor is ok, and seems like it is working properly.
is there a hardware sensor on this phone? where is it located? is there an ability to fix it? is it software issue? anyone else experiencing it? is there a way to always wake up screen with power key?
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I personally have not had this issue, even with pocket mode enabled. The sensor works a lot better than the one in the 7 Pro. I'm not sure where the sensor is on the 8T, but on the 7 Pro it's actually under the display and I guess that was OnePlus' first attempt at under-display sensors, so the auto-brightness was always a little janky as well. The 8T's seems to work much, much better...at least on my phone & my girl's.
Do you perhaps have a screen protector thar might be slightly misaligned and therefore maybe covering the sensor, or perhaps a large case on the phone? I'm just spit-balling here, trying to think of anything that could possibly cause this.
Regardless, it's still dumb that you're facing this.
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I have only found that the sensor is very sensitive as it is up next to the earpiece and tends to collect dust there and this leads to the sensor thinking the phone is in the pocket (or on the ear). Just clean the dust
just wanted to let you know i returned this ****.
i am with oneplus from 6t, up to 7t and now i ordered 8t. this company makes worse and worse devices each year. compared to 7t the camera is worse, speakers are worse too.. and these proximity sensor issues, which apparently are with onepluses since 7. damn, never again oneplus, such a crap b-brand. and even sadder is the approach of people praising it for things that can not even be said about it like software update
raszop said:
just wanted to let you know i returned this ****.
i am with oneplus from 6t, up to 7t and now i ordered 8t. this company makes worse and worse devices each year. compared to 7t the camera is worse, speakers are worse too.. and these proximity sensor issues, which apparently are with onepluses since 7. damn, never again oneplus, such a crap b-brand. and even sadder is the approach of people praising it for things that can not even be said about it like software update
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According to the OnePlus Community forum...it appears to me that the Indian version of the phone is the one that is having all sorts of problems...at least when you read the numerous complaints. I do not know why the Indian version would be any different, or more prone to bugs and malfunctions that the EU or NA versions. I have the unlocked NA version purchased directly from OnePlus and I am having virtually ZERO issues with mine. I had the 6, the 7 Pro, and now the 8T...all unlocked NA versions purchased directly from OnePlus and they all worked flawlessly. I sold the 6 and 7 Pro and the people who bought them from me love them, and also have not had any issues. I always check back with "customers" and they tell me all is good! So, am I just fortunate, or is there something going on with the manufacturing process here? I do not know...but what I do know is that the 8T works way better than the S20 FE did (which I sent back) and it may possibly be the best, fastest working phone I have ever owned! So sorry you are having issues. Is yours the Indian version?
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According to the OnePlus Community forum...it appears to me that the Indian version of the phone is the one that is having all sorts of problems...at least when you read the numerous complaints. I do not know why the Indian version would be any different, or more prone to bugs and malfunctions that the EU or NA versions. I have the unlocked NA version purchased directly from OnePlus and I am having virtually ZERO issues with mine. I had the 6, the 7 Pro, and now the 8T...all unlocked NA versions purchased directly from OnePlus and they all worked flawlessly. I sold the 6 and 7 Pro and the people who bought them from me love them, and also have not had any issues. I always check back with "customers" and they tell me all is good! So, am I just fortunate, or is there something going on with the manufacturing process here? I do not know...but what I do know is that the 8T works way better than the S20 FE did (which I sent back) and it may possibly be the best, fastest working phone I have ever owned! So sorry you are having issues. Is yours the Indian version?
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"I do not know why the Indian version would be any different" - and i do. its because indian people will shriek to oneplus logo no matter how poopy the product is. you can treat them worse, and they still will be pleasured to the sky. that might sound harsh, but that's true. same goes with xiaomi phones. indian versions come with different parts! can you imagine the phone has better amoled screen for europe and usa, and worse chinese amoled for indian market? or worse batteries? well, indian xiaomi phones are definition of that. and it all is because customers do not require any better. like i said, we are apologists. no matter how bad the product will be, we will unconditionally defend the company.
and i did purchase directly from oneplus in europe. not only i had proximity sensor issues, but the feeling of speakers is way cheaper than in 7t. also camera is a joke - downgrade from 7t. couldn't stand this joke of a phone.
screen and battery life were nice though.

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