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Is there any rom that removes the notch?

By removing it I mean bump the statusbar down below the notch and make it black above it. Not the bs that OnePlus did.

Your sacrificing a lot of screen space like that.

j0nas_ said:
By removing it I mean bump the statusbar down below the notch and make it black above it. Not the bs that OnePlus did.
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Why on earth would you do that? Then you're just wasting a part of the screen. If you don't mind the notch, keep it. If you do, use it as a black statusbar. What's the big deal..?

the best solution = Sell your op6 and buy a 5t

Upgrade to the 6T when available...

Donnie Sins said:
Why on earth would you do that? Then you're just wasting a part of the screen. If you don't mind the notch, keep it. If you do, use it as a black statusbar. What's the big deal..?
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So I could see all statusbar icons like vpn, headphones and more. Also app notifications. Since this device uses an amoled display it would also save power.

galaxys said:
Upgrade to the 6T when available...
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Rumours say it will still have a notch. Even if it didn't have one I'm not gonna buy a new phone just 6 months after the previous one.

se7ensde said:
Your sacrificing a lot of screen space like that.
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Nah it would be like 16:9 which I'm used to and it's not that much space. Bezelless phones have never been a big focus for me but the one sd845 phone that has no notch was the s9/plus which costs double.

DamiDev said:
the best solution = Sell your op6 and buy a 5t
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Yeah... no apart from being last gen it has some audio problems through the aux port that all my friends with an 5t encountered. Forgot what it was exactly.

j0nas_ said:
Nah it would be like 16:9 which I'm used to and it's not that much space. Bezelless phones have never been a big focus for me but the one sd845 phone that has no notch was the s9/plus which costs double.
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uh yes it would because this phone is meant for 19:9 so your sacrificing part of your screen on top and bottom. Where is your logic for thinking it's not. The physical screen isn't going to automatically change so you're just going to have black borders. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

6t compared

I'm not sure if this is where this question belongs but anyway:
My favorite phone I've ever had was the Nexus 6p. I loved how big and wide it was. I loved how easily I could root and flash custom roms to it. I loved all the modification of the OS I could do to it. I currently have the 8+, but am looking for an upgrade. The pixel XL 3 is probably going to be if not 700+ close to it. So, would you say the 6t (not out yet) and 6 OnePlus is similar? Is it easy to root, good screen, battery life etc? Is it over hyped? What is your opinion.
Thanks

Stay tuned over here for news and reviews once released...

I think OP6 and OP6T will be almost the same just some facelift modifications.
So...
Easy root --> yes
Good screen --> I would say yes
Battery life --> isn't the best, but it's good.
Over hyped? --> never!?

I'm guessing it'll cost more for very similar to identical internal hardware.
The only things that would get me to upgrade are a battery 4000+mAh, a MUCH much better camera (like, it'd have to be the best on the market by far for sure, I'm pretty happy with the OP6 camera), or if it somehow ended up cheaper than the OP6. And even for me to upgrade then, I'd have to accidentally break my OP6 first for me to spend that much money again.

Kollachi said:
I think OP6 and OP6T will be almost the same just some facelift modifications.
So...
Easy root --> yes
Good screen --> I would say yes
Battery life --> isn't the best, but it's good.
Over hyped? --> never!
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I'm guessing it'll cost more for very similar to identical internal hardware.
The only things that would get me to upgrade are a battery 4000+mAh, a MUCH much better camera (like, it'd have to be the best on the market by far for sure, I'm pretty happy with the OP6 camera), or if it somehow ended up cheaper than the OP6. And even for me to upgrade then, I'd have to accidentally break my OP6 first for me to spend that much money again.
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What about charging it? Can you use a regular cable? I don't like that you have to use the propitary hardware. Especially since I'm currently upgrading my home to use power outlets among other reasons.

I think the 6 and 6t will be similar in most ways. I mainly see 2 aspects that can make a difference:
1. the removal/loss of the rear fingerprint scanner.
I'm pretty pissed by that. I don't know if banking apps will let you use it for example (the apps will have to be updated/modified because the bottom half of the screen will have to make way for an area on the bottom where you need to place your finger on the screen to unlock). of course apps will adapt to the front in-screen fingerprint scanner but who knows how fast this will happen.
Plus no more fingerprint gestures while the phone is on (pulling down status bar, single traps, double taps,...).
Also, the in screen scanner is going to be slower than the standard rear scanners and when you grab your phone in your pocket where you can now just unlock it by feeling the spot in the back (and the phone comes unlocked and with screen on when it's in front of your face) you will have to actually look at the screen and place your finger on the exact spot where it has to rest in order for it to unlock. Don't see the point in that because face unlock would most likely unlock during that moment of search and press.
2. maybe this point is false, but possibly there will be more development for the 6t due to the fact that it will be available to a much wider audience being offered by t-mobile in the US. so far OnePlus phones have not been available in any US phone carrier store so way more people are going to actually see a OnePlus at the place they usually go to look for phones.
I don't expect the camera to be better than in the 6.
The phone's speed will be identical since it's using the same hardware.
You're missing out on the 3.5mm headphone jack in case that's important to you. And perhaps they will add wireless charging with the 6t (we'll see).

I had a Nexus 6P before as well.
Personally I find the screen ratio of the nexus better than the 19:9 from OP6.
Both are missing a sd-slot although the OP6 is dual sim but both slots are sim only.
Screen quality is good but compared to Samsung it is just average. Not sure if it's the quality or the colour adjustments.
I often have non-recognized touch inputs but this could be due to the screen protector it comes with. I will remove mine and see if it gets better.
The fingerprint reader has it bugs as well when it does not recognize my finger and ask for the pin. Something I never had with my nexus.
Audio speaker quality is ok not more. Better use earphones.
Camera is good but by far not the best.
Rooting is easy but a bit different because of a/b slots. You get used to it after first flash (or boot loop ).
Battery life is good for me.
USB is USB type C but it is a USB2.0 connection so HDMI adapters and stuff are not working (at least not for me).
Volume slider is a nice extra.
OOS is quite good too altough I completly debloated it with xXx magisk custom rom.
Would I buy it again?
Yes. The hardware package is very good compared to it'sprice.
My next phone needs a sd-slot again. I hope OP thinks about that again...
Will I upgrade to OP6T?
No. No need for me. And the missing audio jack is a no go for me at this time .

vercetti said:
I think the 6 and 6t will be similar in most ways. I mainly see 2 aspects that can make a difference:
1. the removal/loss of the rear fingerprint scanner.
I'm pretty pissed by that. I don't know if banking apps will let you use it for example (the apps will have to be updated/modified because the bottom half of the screen will have to make way for an area on the bottom where you need to place your finger on the screen to unlock). of course apps will adapt to the front in-screen fingerprint scanner but who knows how fast this will happen.
Plus no more fingerprint gestures while the phone is on (pulling down status bar, single traps, double taps,...).
Also, the in screen scanner is going to be slower than the standard rear scanners and when you grab your phone in your pocket where you can now just unlock it by feeling the spot in the back (and the phone comes unlocked and with screen on when it's in front of your face) you will have to actually look at the screen and place your finger on the exact spot where it has to rest in order for it to unlock. Don't see the point in that because face unlock would most likely unlock during that moment of search and press.
2. maybe this point is false, but possibly there will be more development for the 6t due to the fact that it will be available to a much wider audience being offered by t-mobile in the US. so far OnePlus phones have not been available in any US phone carrier store so way more people are going to actually see a OnePlus at the place they usually go to look for phones.
I don't expect the camera to be better than in the 6.
The phone's speed will be identical since it's using the same hardware.
You're missing out on the 3.5mm headphone jack in case that's important to you. And perhaps they will add wireless charging with the 6t (we'll see).
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1) I agree wholeheartedly. A rear fingerprint scanner placed properly is better than anything up front.
The counterargument usually goes - if your phone is lying on your desk, then it is easier to unlock it without picking it up.
My counter-counterargument is that if you want to unlock the phone, because you saw a notification, you probably would want to pick it up anyway. In other words, if the phone is requiring your unlocked activities, you would probably want to pick it up.
One exception that immediately jumps to my mind - you see a Gmail notification, and you want to read the full text without picking up the phone... I suppose that happens. Sometimes.
2) T-Mobile is probably a very small carrier compared to Asia, where these phones are mostly sold.

wwe9112 said:
What about charging it? Can you use a regular cable? I don't like that you have to use the propitary hardware. Especially since I'm currently upgrading my home to use power outlets among other reasons.
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Yes u can use a non OP cable and block but it won't fast charge.

Loss of led light stops me from 6t

Jack. No jack no joy.
I NEVER use lock with finger, for instance. I would be more happy with inclusion of SD reader....
Times.... ((

I previously had a Galaxy S8+, upgraded to Note8 and then upgraded to OnePlus 6. This is the first phone in ages that I've really liked, even though it has a bit smaller screen than I would really like.
Compared to the Samsung S8+/Note8:
The screen isn't as good as Samsungs in direct sunlight. On samsung I never had to brighten the screen to read on screen, but with OP6 it is necessary. No big deal though.
No SD-card slot.
No wireless charging.
But everything else is just simply better! Better battery life, snappier android, We've got PIE! samsung go eat your Oreos. Lots of customization with ROMs. Easy bootloader unlock and root, no hassle getting the latest official roms, no regrets from me, I'm on the OnePlus train now!

wwe9112 said:
What about charging it? Can you use a regular cable? I don't like that you have to use the propitary hardware. Especially since I'm currently upgrading my home to use power outlets among other reasons.
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Sure. You can use regular cable, but the loading speed is slow.
Fast charging works with original charger only.

6T is supposed to have an even faster charger.

grinch247 said:
Loss of led light stops me from 6t
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wtf? that's getting dropped too?!?
one more reason to go with the 6 than with the 6t.
what good reasons do you all see choosing the 6t over the 6?
that the notch is smaller?
that there is a bit more screen and less bezels?
the slightly bigger battery?
maybe waterproof and maybe wireless charging?
can't really find a reason that makes the 6t more interesting than the 6...

Without using the dash, are we talking like 3 hours to charge or like 2 hours

grinch247 said:
Loss of led light stops me from 6t
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I have not seen this mentioned before. Where did you read that?
Thanks

Reading all your comments.... I'm planning to update my OPO (still a great phone), but OP6 or OP6T.......and price will probably be +600€ :/

FrenchSparda said:
Reading all your comments.... I'm planning to update my OPO (still a great phone), but OP6 or OP6T.......and price will probably be +600€ :/
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The OP6 can be had for 510$ while the 6T will cost around 550€.
If you want the jack and don't care about in-screen fp sensor, the OP6 is a better choice.

vercetti said:
wtf? that's getting dropped too?!?
one more reason to go with the 6 than with the 6t.
what good reasons do you all see choosing the 6t over the 6?
that the notch is smaller?
that there is a bit more screen and less bezels?
the slightly bigger battery?
maybe waterproof and maybe wireless charging?
can't really find a reason that makes the 6t more interesting than the 6...
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There is no wireless charging according to Pete Lau.

Surprised by Face Unlock on my EVR-L29

Hey All,
Just received my EVR-L29 today.....man this is SEXY!
I was shocked as I was setting it up that Face Unlock came up. I hadn't read or seen any reviews that mentioned it and it seems fairly accurate. Pleasant surprise that I wanted to share...hope there wasn't another thread already!

I also never thought I would use a phone that made my Mi Mix feel small ?

what does the codes mean at the end of the phone? i.e. EVR-L29, CLT-29, HMA-L29, LYA-L29 etc? which one do I need to buy so that it works in the UK?
Cheers
KK

I own the Chinese version of the Mate 20X but I'm agree..
the Huawei facial unlock had amazed me since the update on the old P10, here I use it as favorite unlock, though Google Smart Lock is missing.
It recognizes even in low light and with glasses

Biscuitcruncher said:
what does the codes mean at the end of the phone? i.e. EVR-L29, CLT-29, HMA-L29, LYA-L29 etc? which one do I need to buy so that it works in the UK?
Cheers
KK
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There are a tone of threads discussing this already but the EVR-L29 is the 'global' version from Hong Kong and has the Google apps pre installed but there are pros and cons to China and Global versions.

Would be nice if the phone unlocked and went to the home screen and didn't need a swipe after using the face unlock, but yeah it works amazingly!

AhsanU said:
Would be nice if the phone unlocked and went to the home screen and didn't need a swipe after using the face unlock, but yeah it works amazingly!
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Settings/Security & Privacy/Face Recognition/Direct unlock

imapfsr said:
I also never thought I would use a phone that made my Mi Mix feel small ?
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Mi mix user here, wondering how does the size feel?
Ajusted to it quickly?

sexlord89 said:
Mi mix user here, wondering how does the size feel?
Ajusted to it quickly?
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Seconds, it's not much wider but certainly taller. If you love your Mix as much as I loved mine you will understand that when I say what made the Mix so great is here in this phone but with much nicer features and what a difference having almost no chin makes... My new love is the 20X... Sorry Mix

sexlord89 said:
Mi mix user here, wondering how does the size feel?
Ajusted to it quickly?
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Honestly depends on many things. I can adjust to just about anything.
As of now, I'm torn between the OnePlus 6T and the Mate 20 X. Size wise the 6T is so much easier to use, and with GCam development coming along, the pictures the 6T takes is simply amazing. I hate to say it but the Mate 20 X doesn't have great portrait modes. I've been testing both the Mate 20 X and the 6T extensively and while I was drawn to the Mate 20 X for its camera, size, battery life, etc. It looks like the camera is letting me down a bit for certain situations.
I could ramble on, but if you're genuinely only interested in size - you get used to it if your hands are of decent size. I've been told I have slightly above average hands and I can use it very well. While holding it with one hand, I can type and reach the "q" and "p" on the keyboard with a slight stretch.
My only gripe with the size being the actual software.. Huawei has poorly optimised the space available. On a 6.3" screen, I have 6 quick setting icons on the 6T. On a 7.2" screen, the Mate 20 X has 5. The icons look cartoonishly big.

The face unlock is very fast but I think it's less secure. On Galaxy phones they let me choose face unlocking speed and say the fast face unlocking is less secure. I guess it's because face scanning requires much complicated calculation than retina and finger print scannings.
The finger print scanner is so quick! Quicker than Samsung GS8 and GS9.

I too am supprised with face unlock in good light it's fast and works well, at night it might need a second attempt.
Having come from a mate 20pro in would say it's almost as good during the day (for ease of access) at night though the pro was a lot more reliable, probably because of the infrared camera etc in the notch.

Where did u buy the l29 ver.?
Have you had any updates so far?
Did they help?
How is the battery life with the dark mode?

Where's AoD ( Always on Display ) ?

I have to say I'm pretty shocked that OnePlus hasn't added AOD always on display to their phones yet it's been a stock Android thing for a couple good years already.
What's the deal?

Zorachus said:
I have to say I'm pretty shocked that OnePlus hasn't added AOD always on display to their phones yet it's been a stock Android thing for a couple good years already.
What's the deal?
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.it's on havoc im using it

One thing I like about this 7 Pro is you can enable the setting to show your lock screen when you slightly lift up your phone. Saves just that bit of extra battery life. I never liked AOD on my Samsung devices. But at least with the new One UI on those phones you can choose to have it turn on only when you tap on the display.

Hopefully we can get a mod for this. The op6t has it.

For now I just use the Screensaver...

Any news about Always on display?
Kinda annoyed with picking up my phone 1000 times / day to check for new notifications.

piotrkruczek said:
Any news about Always on display?
Kinda annoyed with picking up my phone 1000 times / day to check for new notifications.
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OnePlus is working on AOD....
Wait for a Mod or OnePlus to release it!

piotrkruczek said:
Any news about Always on display?
Kinda annoyed with picking up my phone 1000 times / day to check for new notifications.
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Use pixel pulse apk for the time being

For AOD you can use custom ROMs, although I don't know if AOD doesn't turn off pixels except the ones that shows information or else expect huge battery drain.

Hirs_E_Fruit said:
OnePlus is working on AOD....
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Will believe it when I see it. Has been requested over and over for some time now, even more so since it was there briefly on the OP6 before being removed. It should not be hard and the OP devs are clearly very capable I think they do not really want to provide this feature for some reason and that we will get some battery related waffle as justification for it not being added.
I sold my OP7 pro and will not buy another OP device until they provide this feature. It is an important feature for me and too many other manufacturers provide it now so there is no need to miss out on it.
YMMV

arsenal74 said:
Will believe it when I see it. Has been requested over and over for some time now, even more so since it was there briefly on the OP6 before being removed. It should not be hard and the OP devs are clearly very capable I think they do not really want to provide this feature for some reason and that we will get some battery related waffle as justification for it not being added.
I sold my OP7 pro and will not buy another OP device until they provide this feature. It is an important feature for me and too many other manufacturers provide it now so there is no need to miss out on it.
YMMV
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Bye, nobody will miss you!

arsenal74 said:
Will believe it when I see it. Has been requested over and over for some time now, even more so since it was there briefly on the OP6 before being removed. It should not be hard and the OP devs are clearly very capable I think they do not really want to provide this feature for some reason and that we will get some battery related waffle as justification for it not being added.
I sold my OP7 pro and will not buy another OP device until they provide this feature. It is an important feature for me and too many other manufacturers provide it now so there is no need to miss out on it.
YMMV
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What a weird thing to get upset over.

Hirs_E_Fruit said:
OnePlus is working on AOD....
Wait for a Mod or OnePlus to release it!
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Been hearing that since the op6.

i.Design said:
What a weird thing to get upset over.
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It might be weird for you but not for the other user...
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Bye, nobody will miss you!
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He just told the fact, no need to be rude....

Not a weird thing to get upset about at all. Either AOD or a notification light should be "there". Light can be put anywhere, even in a button. Now I have an app running to light up now and then. Notify Buddy consumes way too much battery which isn't an option either. I upgraded from OP5 to OP7pro, but honestly, I still am wondering why I paid all that money. The OP5 was and still is a smooth as butter fine device. GF has it now.

exis_tenz said:
Not a weird thing to get upset about at all. Either AOD or a notification light should be "there". Light can be put anywhere, even in a button. Now I have an app running to light up now and then. Notify Buddy consumes way too much battery which isn't an option either. I upgraded from OP5 to OP7pro, but honestly, I still am wondering why I paid all that money. The OP5 was and still is a smooth as butter fine device. GF has it now.
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Exactly. I don't understand why they are talking about it drains battery. Yeah it does, but those who want it might not care. It's not exactly hard to implement AOD. Not offering no notification light and no AOD is just stupid. They been stating they are working on it for at least a year? That can't be true .

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. The weird part is them selling their OP7 Pro for not having a feature that they knew wasn't on it when they bought it. Not sure why you'd purchase a phone that didn't have a feature you clearly would sell a phone for not having.

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Maybe I wasn't clear enough. The weird part is them selling their OP7 Pro for not having a feature that they knew wasn't on it when they bought it. Not sure why you'd purchase a phone that didn't have a feature you clearly would sell a phone for not having.
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Not sure that is what you really meant but let's move on. I am prone to impulse buys (don't judge me) which is what the OP7 was and with OP saying they were working on an AOD I kind of hoped it would come (as it finally did from Huawei) but now I honestly do not think it is.
My point is that a functioning AOD that does not kill your battery does not seem to be that difficult, most other manufactures offer it now and LG even managed it on an LCD. I'm guessing and reading between the lines but I think that they have no intention of adding it but cannot imagine why? as I said the OP devs are clearly very capable so I'm sure they could have done it by now if asked.

As far as I know AOD consumes a few percent more per hour, maybe 3%. I don't know if that has gotten better in the last years. Still I don't understand why they don't offer the option to trade AOD for battery life. I guess the impact on battery in their testing must have been so high that it would've been a shame to release it. I guess it's kind of a "do it right or leave it" attempt they are following.
Also it could be together with the absence of the pocket mode. I guess since they don't have a normal proximity sensor that could be what stops them from adding it because if they did, they can't disable it when the phone is in the pocket.

They could still add it regardless of draining some battery. Could always add an option to turn it off like Samsung. I use an app called Always on Amoled. It's pretty similar to an actual aod. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.newgen.alwayson

Question Backup phone for pixel 7 pro?

Helloz
I haven't been able to make my mind so i decided to see what u guys think.
So now im rocking a 256gb pixel 7 pro.
My old phone was one plus 7 pro which is still in a very good shape. Like my all phones it was rooted.
My wife's old phone is an galaxy note 20 ultra which is in a good shape as well but not rooted.
I have to give out one of them and keep one.
Im really confused.
The OnePlus 7 pro with its no hole punch screen and its huge huge support and mod community. I really like the privacy of having a popup front camera. Note that i had to root my phone to get volte.
On the other the note 20 ultra. Damn this phone is one heck of a piece of hardware. I think the version we have is the oxynos. This phone is supported in my country and many others without any modifications or rooting. So here its advantages are, 5g, volte, esim capabilities.
What do u guys think?

I have oneplus7pro, the best phone so far,
but it is a time to move to the newer one,
and pixel 7 pro has the best software support and the easiest way to get root and other things.
however, that useless hole on the middle of the screen is highly annoying.

I have a OnePlus 7T and have been thinking of going back to it, it fully supports 2-SIM w/Different RingTones. Unfortunately, the last OS update for it was v12/12.1 and was pushed out in Nov/Dec 22. The only thing keeping me from going back is the Cameras on the Pixel 7 Pro. If you're doubting to get a Pixel 7 Pro - get the OnePlus 10 Pro instead.

Samsung note 20 is clearly the better device for multiple reasons.

robbbzilla said:
Samsung note 20 is clearly the better device for multiple reasons.
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Those a cool phones, have a coworker using one of them and the stylus pen appears to work great if you're taking inventory on new equipment.

I have personally used many OnePlus phones including the 7 Pro. I have had several Samsung phones all of which were sent back for various flaws too numerous to discuss here. Every OnePlus phone has been excellent for me! I highly recommend that you stay with the OnePlus phone because they just work! YMMV

x111 said:
however, that useless hole on the middle of the screen is highly annoying.
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Genuine question here:
Are you deducing that no face unlock would be a win...? Or do you just greatly prefer the sliding front facing camera (so that it's not always visible)?

NippleSauce said:
Genuine question here:
Are you deducing that no face unlock would be a win...? Or do you just greatly prefer the sliding front facing camera (so that it's not always visible)?
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never used and I genuinely will not ever use face unlock.
I'm using front camera only for video calls and would prefer low quality under display camera somewhere on the very top corner.
It is highly annoying that manufacturers cannot deliver this simple solution.

x111 said:
never used and I genuinely will not ever use face unlock.
I'm using face camera only for video calls and would prefer low quality under display camera somewhere on the very top corner.
I highly annoying that manufacturer cannot deliver this simple solution.
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Gotcha, thanks. Just note that it is *not* a simple solution to put a modern front facing camera at either of the front corners of the display (due to hardware restrictions). The only way to do so in a simple manner would prevent the front facing camera from being utilized properly without holding the phone in landscape mode - which I don't imagine many people would feel comfortable doing =/

x111 said:
never used and I genuinely will not ever use face unlock.
I'm using front camera only for video calls and would prefer low quality under display camera somewhere on the very top corner.
It is highly annoying that manufacturers cannot deliver this simple solution.
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It's not a simple solution because almost no one has your needs. Most people want Face unlock. And they want it to work. They demand more out of a Front Facing Camera than a low quality video call device

HipKat said:
It's not a simple solution because almost no one has your needs. Most people want Face unlock. And they want it to work. They demand more out of a Front Facing Camera than a low quality video call device
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I don't and will never use a front facing camera for unlocking my device, but I have to agree with you. People want a front-facing camera for that face. Unlock in for high quality video calls with family and friends. Also, putting a camera under the display so you can't see it should not be assumed to be "simple."
We often lose sight of what it took to develop and make these devices that we use from the planning, the development, the gathering of the raw materials, the engineering, etc. Are truly marvelous feats. That can be said for almost everything around us that we take for granted! We are very blessed and lucky to be living in this time!

HipKat said:
Most people want Face unlock.
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And from whence did you glean this tidbit?
I never used it, and I have no desire to use it. In fact everyone I know does not use it!
Hmmmm?

jaseman said:
And from whence did you glean this tidbit?
I never used it, and I have no desire to use it. In fact everyone I know does not use it!
Hmmmm?
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The huge number of people that demanded it on the Pixel 6 Pro. Then the number that complained about how slow it was at first.
Feel free to go look at that forum.
What YOU want is not what most people want. And BTW, that camera is barely noticeable. I have the Energy ring and I still barely see it.