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367 ppi enough ??

Hi all, i want to buy this phone but i have one question. Is 367 ppi enough ? Is display sharp enough ? I have read many reviews and test...., in some reviews testers say that the resolution is absolute ok....., in another that is visible difference in sharpness when they compare the screen with higher ppi. What is your opinion ?? I have no chance to see the screen in shop. I want to buy this fone, but i´m worried about this thing. Thanx for answers

The screen is very good, excellent contrast and beatiful colors, for me is ok 367 ppi

Kzyw said:
The screen is very good, excellent contrast and beatiful colors, for me is ok 367 ppi
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Screenshot please...
mine 380dpi..

I find it fine also. Crisp and clear. Easier on the battery.
A screen shot won't help you, lol. Think about that a minute.....

ghaf85 said:
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mine 380dpi..
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DPI <> PPI. PPI is the physical amount of pixels per inch, DPI is the amount of Dots per inch displayed by the OS.
This phone has a great display. I wouldn't worry about the relatively low PPI compared to newer phones.

I switched from a Samsung with over 440ppi and could barely notice any difference.
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I have the Ascend Mate 7 from May and after seven months I am not satisfied.
However, regarding the display I must admit that the difference is unnoticeable with 400ppi or more but the problem is not the dpi. Let's view:
- The screen manufacture
I have a big halo in the center of the screen on white colors (It is getting more annoying).
I have a "light" lightbleed on blacks
I don't think that it's a true IPS because if I look it from different angles the screen colors change, especially the black colors
- The Android UI
We have 367ppi on 6" screen and the huawei stock rom is set to 480ppi, so Android will render the screen as it is a 480ppi display. Big status bar, big everything (but this is up to you, I prefer a small UI). To make matters worse for now is impossible to build a custom ROM that it is not stock-derivative (See my post here).

1080p as standard !!!!!

https://youtu.be/nP0I6Mb880E
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Yup, this was pretty obviously stated and samsung did tell people. You can turn the resolution up if you require also.

1920/1080 is 1080p....so 1080P+
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its a little more than 1080p. Also I speak from experience that you can not tell a difference unless you are looking for it. It is the same screen resolution on the S7's with nougat.

Yep it is. Lets not blow this out of proportion people if you want QHD+ its in the settings under display.
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lordandroid said:
Yep it is. Lets not blow this out of proportion people if you want QHD+ its in the settings under display.
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that also. lol. its not that bad it being 1080p+ though. It looks almost the same and to most you wont be able to tell.

Agreed ?
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I couldnt tell on my oneplus 3T, the screen was great.

QHD on a phone is overkill. It's a nice-to-have if you're trying to watch a movie, but other than that it's purely excessive. If someone showed you a 1080p and a QHD display on the S8 or even the s8 plus, I can all but guarantee you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I sure can't with my S7E.

The problem is not that 1080p looks bad. The problem is that this display has a set number of width and height pixels which is defined as 2960 x 1440. So if you want to display a picture which is 2220 x 1080 in a display which size isn't a multiple of the picture you have to interpolate. You somehow need to have just 1080 pixels in a row where there are supposed to be 1440. Why don't they go with 720p instead? Well I guess it would also look shi**y :/
Just my thoughts, I have never seen a S7 or S8 display.
EDIT: I just think about this from a delevoper perspecive. The developer thinks: Let's make a black 2px line there -> it's a 2px line.
Because you cant fit a multiple of 1080 in 1440 the interpolation would make a 2,66px line. As you know you cant color 0.66 parts of a pixel black. So most likely the whole pixel will be black which results in a 3px black line where there should be a 2,66px line. As this happens with every pixel of the display the image won't just get inaccurate but also the GPU has to do some very unnecessary scaling work.

Termynat0r said:
The problem is not that 1080p looks bad. The problem is that this display has a set number of width and height pixels which is defined as 2960 x 1440. So if you want to display a picture which is 2220 x 1080 in a display which size isn't a multiple of the picture you have to interpolate. You somehow need to have just 1080 pixels in a row where there are supposed to be 1440. Why don't they go with 720p instead? Well I guess it would also look shi**y :/
Just my thoughts, I have never seen a S7 or S8 display.
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It's the same as changing the resolution of a computer or monitor display. The interpolation isn't the issue, every manufacture has that down pat. 720p would make a noticeable difference, even in basic browsing and function. 1080p is enough that on a screen the size of the S8 or S8+ you wouldn't be able to see the individual (or interpolated) pixels.

marinebio94 said:
It's the same as changing the resolution of a computer or monitor display. The interpolation isn't the issue, every manufacture has that down pat. 720p would make a noticeable difference, even in basic browsing and function. 1080p is enough that on a screen the size of the S8 or S8+ you wouldn't be able to see the individual (or interpolated) pixels.
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I didn't say that this is not the same. But when I buy a 1080p monitor, I use it in 1080p because thats what it is intended for. You won't see pixels on a 500+ ppi device. But the image will be totally unaccurate and that's not what I generally like to look at. I just tried this in photoshop and the effect is even worse than I thought and demonstrated by that example picture in my last post. Here's what it'll really look like. You want to look at this? Of course it will be very small pixels but do you really don't mind?! I know I do.

Termynat0r said:
I didn't say that this is not the same. But when I buy a 1080p monitor, I use it in 1080p because thats what it is intended for. You won't see pixels on a 500+ ppi device. But the image will be totally unaccurate and that's not what I generally like to look at. I just tried this in photoshop and the effect is even worse than I thought and demonstrated by that example picture in my last post. Here's what it'll really look like. You want to look at this? Of course it will be very small pixels but do you really don't mind?! I know I do.
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That's not at all what it will really look like. Doing something in photoshop is not even close to how it will look in real life. Please look at the phone before you assume what it will look like. I just switched my phone from 1080p to QHD and back again, and I literally cannot tell the difference, even with my face pressed inches away from the phone.

marinebio94 said:
That's not at all what it will really look like. Doing something in photoshop is not even close to how it will look in real life. Please look at the phone before you assume what it will look like. I just switched my phone from 1080p to QHD and back again, and I literally cannot tell the difference, even with my face pressed inches away from the phone.
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You can't negotiate with the pixel science
Most likely the pixels are just to small to see a difference but I will take a look at the phone when I get it to judge wether switching to 1440p or not

Termynat0r said:
You can't negotiate with the pixel science
Most likely the pixels are just to small to see a difference but I will take a look at the phone when I get it to judge wether switching to 1440p or not
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But don't forget these OLED panels use a diamond pentile subpixel arragement, so the interpolation isn't quite the same as a traditional RGB LCD monitor.
It's REALLY REALLY difficult to tell the difference between QHD and 1080p on the S7. At more than about a foot, it's nearly impossible to tell. I know what you're saying, I hate running monitors at non-native resolutions.
If it bugs you that much, just change it.

If lower resolution gets me another 1hr SOT per day, I'll drop all the way to the bottom. Can't tell the diff.

I just changed to 1080 p on my S7E (was at the highest rez setting). Really can't see a difference. Icons and keyboard are a bit larger. Texts are a bit bigger. But as far as sharpness, look of the display, not an issue. Just going to test and see if this makes a difference much on SOT or not. I can always change back to the highest rez setting if I want - takes about 30 seconds to do.

teegunn said:
I just changed to 1080 p on my S7E (was at the highest rez setting). Really can't see a difference. Icons and keyboard are a bit larger. Texts are a bit bigger. But as far as sharpness, look of the display, not an issue. Just going to test and see if this makes a difference much on SOT or not. I can always change back to the highest rez setting if I want - takes about 30 seconds to do.
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This setting should not affect the size of the screen elements (icons, text) at all.

se1000 said:
This setting should not affect the size of the screen elements (icons, text) at all.
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The initial change of setting could change aspect ratios, but a quick restart should fix it.

se1000 said:
This setting should not affect the size of the screen elements (icons, text) at all.
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I use Nova launcher, Swype and Handcent texting app. It changed the size of icons, the size of font, the size of the keyboard and the size of the texts (the bubbles and text font). It did increase the size on all of those. Also increased the size of the quick settings, etc. It's not a big deal, but it did increase the size of things a bit. Has caused no problems so far otherwise.

Display isn't bright?

Have had the Note 20 Ultra from T-Mobile since Wednesday and then phones been be great except for two flaws. One is native gestures still not working 100% smooth with third party launchers - which is okay, I am using FNG anyway, but another is the screen brightness.
Despite being in direct sunlight, the panel doesn't get bright. Samsung claims 1500 nits of brightness, it definitely doesn't get there through either manually sliding the brightness or setting it to auto brightness. Definitely isn't as bright as my OnePlus 8 Pro.
I've annoyingly factory reset the phone to no avail. Anyone else having issues?

Yes, it's not great .... my Note 8 is brighter in normal use.
The panel does get brighter in strong daylight but the maximum manual brightness is poor.

AhsanU said:
Have had the Note 20 Ultra from T-Mobile since Wednesday and then phones been be great except for two flaws. One is native gestures still not working 100% smooth with third party launchers - which is okay, I am using FNG anyway, but another is the screen brightness.
Despite being in direct sunlight, the panel doesn't get bright. Samsung claims 1500 nits of brightness, it definitely doesn't get there through either manually sliding the brightness or setting it to auto brightness. Definitely isn't as bright as my OnePlus 8 Pro.
I've annoyingly factory reset the phone to no avail. Anyone else having issues?
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It is some kind of protection bec extra brightness for long time damage Amoled displays so they decided to limit it in normal usage

It's bright but the white point is um, weird.
Reminds me of the Surface Pro IPS panels, always, always, too green!
And the ability to adjust RGB levels has nary an effect!
I want the ability to calibrate the display properly FFS!
I know it's a decent display but gimping the calibration ability makes about as much sense as putting bias ply tires on a Ferrari!

cpufrost said:
It's bright but the white point is um, weird.
Reminds me of the Surface Pro IPS panels, always, always, too green!
And the ability to adjust RGB levels has nary an effect!
I want the ability to calibrate the display properly FFS!
I know it's a decent display but gimping the calibration ability makes about as much sense as putting bias ply tires on a Ferrari!
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If you read what samsung say about its Dynamic Amoled panels you will understand why the white looks weird , they have implemented a Hardware blue light filter which filters the harmful blue light emissions that is why all new samsung displays show white a llitle yellowish , It might not be the best looking but is is safe for your eyes and renders a more accurate colors.

hoss_n2 said:
If you read what samsung say about its Dynamic Amoled panels you will understand why the white looks weird , they have implemented a Hardware blue light filter which filters the harmful blue light emissions that is why all new samsung displays show white a llitle yellowish , It might not be the best looking but is is safe for your eyes and renders a more accurate colors.
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What's the point of having that?
It's clearly inferior to my professional displays.
Proper calibration and white point is *everything*.
It does NOT look yellowish, it has too much green.
That looks horrible.
After using it for a day I cannot believe how much better my Mac, 11 Pro Max and S20 Ultra looks.

Can you please tell me if the screen isn't bright if adaptive mode is turned off? (120hz)
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Brava27 said:
Can you please tell me if the screen isn't bright if adaptive mode is turned off? (120hz)
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Its significantly brighter with it off

mickeyleah said:
Its significantly brighter with it off
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Yeah, that is what someone pointed out. Thanks

Compared to the Note 10+ it's significantly brighter even in 120Hz, and I often need to lower it even with the adaptive brightness on.
It's somewhere around 1/5 or 1/6th of the brightness bar.

Glass? back & screen brightness

So yesterday my N20 Ultra arrived from wondamobile (highly recommended, everything went smooth), and I'm quite happy.
I do have 2 questions though:
- Is the back really made of glass? Everyone says it is, but it feels completely different from my Oneplus 7 pro (and yes, I know for certain I don't have the non-ultra). The glass on my Oneplus feels cool to the touch, while the note doesn't. It also sounds different when you tap them with your nails.
- I heard this phone had the highest peak brightness of any screen. On the highest non-adaptive setting my Oneplus 7 Pro gets much brighter. Is this just Samsung limiting the max brightness, or is this a random difference in panel quality or something? I saw Lew from Unbox therapy also had potentially related questions about the display.

I made a return of my N9860 256gb. Compared to Note 9, theNote 20 ultra's brightness sucks! I order a new 512gb model. I hope will get luck with last one

These displays should be able to get very bright...
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note20_ShootOut_1N.htm

there are simply Note 20 ultra that have dimmer screens, mine was one of them.

manager77 said:
there are simply Note 20 ultra that have dimmer screens, mine was one of them.
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Firmware glitch it sounds like... bad Samsung

It isn't a Hardware fault. Samsung limited the manual max brightness limit to be like that , so you only get the full brightness in adaptive brightness mode under direct sunlight

manager77 said:
there are simply Note 20 ultra that have dimmer screens, mine was one of them.
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hoss_n2 said:
It isn't a Hardware fault. Samsung limited the manual max brightness limit to be like that , so you only get the full brightness in adaptive brightness mode under direct sunlight
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So can you manually jack it up?
I never use adaptive brightness, lol it never worked right and still doesn't.
I don't want to kill my OLEDs or my eyes so typically it's at about the half way point or less on the 10+
The 20 U gets even brighter...
Using these devices in the sun is sort of asking for it.

General 1080p Default Screen Resolution

Now that the embargo is up, one of the things I've found interesting from the reviews is that the 7 Pro screen resolution defaults to 1080p, and you have to go into the settings to switch it to 1440p.
Maybe Google thinks people will notice the improved battery life more than they will notice the reduced resolution.

Unless you hold the phone a few inches from your face, or you use a magnifying glass, you will NOT see any discernable difference. So it depends on what is more important to "you", longer battery life per day, or imaginary higher screen resolution?

Interesting, I didn't know that. Does that really save that much battery? The whole screen is still being used.
It's also a weird thing to do marketing wise - hey you've got a great display, but we'll show you worse quality...
What's the point of having the higher resolution if many people will never use it?

jbaysingar said:
Now that the embargo is up, one of the things I've found interesting from the reviews is that the 7 Pro screen resolution defaults to 1080p, and you have to go into the settings to switch it to 1440p.
Maybe Google thinks people will notice the improved battery life more than they will notice the reduced resolution.
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Sometimes they just make us do all the settings which are suitable for us!

mko000 said:
Interesting, I didn't know that. Does that really save that much battery? The whole screen is still being used.
It's also a weird thing to do marketing wise - hey you've got a great display, but we'll show you worse quality...
What's the point of having the higher resolution if many people will never use it?
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Some people are into specs and will buy based on that alone, whether it's the SOC, the screen resolution, the refresh rate, or the camera modules even though in real world use most of the specs make no discernable difference to 99% of end users.

Is it possible to make a Toggle to switch between 1080p and 1440p in Tasker?

I'm leaving mine at 1080p. It's plenty good. Hardly even noticable.

I cant tell a difference, well not one that makes any difference so i'll leave it at 1080p if its going to give a bit more battery life.

Has anyone done a comparison on the difference between 1080 and 1440

Paz9 said:
Has anyone done a comparison on the difference between 1080 and 1440
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The only thing I can reliably see is when in the setting itself when you toggle between the two resolutions I notice that the clock in the notification shade will move about 1/8th inch to the left on QHD and then move back to the right on FHD. Give it a try and see.

Paz9 said:
Has anyone done a comparison on the difference between 1080 and 1440
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As I mentioned previously, I currently have an S21 ultra (snapdragon) and evaluating via this forum my buying the 7 Pro. On my S21U I have the Display Tester app (available in both free and "Pro" versions). The S21U also comes, out of the box, set to 1080P. However, when you look at 1080P using Display Tester you will see that the gamma of the display is out of wack. There the gamma is around 1.4 or so, leading to a somewhat washed out image. Setting it to WQHD+ (3200 x 1400) Gamma goes to 2.2, the accurate setting.
Interested if anybody wants to test this out on the 7P.

peterg21 said:
As I mentioned previously, I currently have an S21 ultra (snapdragon) and evaluating via this forum my buying the 7 Pro. On my S21U I have the Display Tester app (available in both free and "Pro" versions). The S21U also comes, out of the box, set to 1080P. However, when you look at 1080P using Display Tester you will see that the gamma of the display is out of wack. There the gamma is around 1.4 or so, leading to a somewhat washed out image. Setting it to WQHD+ (3200 x 1400) Gamma goes to 2.2, the accurate setting.
Interested if anybody wants to test this out on the 7P.
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Just tested it. Same exact results you report on the S21

peterg21 said:
As I mentioned previously, I currently have an S21 ultra (snapdragon) and evaluating via this forum my buying the 7 Pro. On my S21U I have the Display Tester app (available in both free and "Pro" versions). The S21U also comes, out of the box, set to 1080P. However, when you look at 1080P using Display Tester you will see that the gamma of the display is out of wack. There the gamma is around 1.4 or so, leading to a somewhat washed out image. Setting it to WQHD+ (3200 x 1400) Gamma goes to 2.2, the accurate setting.
Interested if anybody wants to test this out on the 7P.
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What's the main issue with this?

Paz9 said:
What's the main issue with this?
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According to my (possibly fallible eyes), it’s 1.4 @ 1080 and between 2.2 and 2.3 at 1440.

RebDovid said:
According to my (possibly fallible eyes), it’s 1.4 @ 1080 and between 2.2 and 2.3 at 1440.
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How is that a bad thing exactly?

Paz9 said:
How is that a bad thing exactly?
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Here are a couple of links which explain Gamma and why it is important:
The Main Reason Monitor Calibration Is Essential
Gamma is used in digital photography to determine the image's brightness and is important to understand.
www.lifewire.com
The importance of gamma
"Gamma" has to do with how a display translates input signal levels into the intensity of output light. We show you how to understand the relationship.
www.androidauthority.com

This should be tested in both 60hz and Adaptive/120hz mode as the calibration between different refreshrates can differ.