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Yup, this was pretty obviously stated and samsung did tell people. You can turn the resolution up if you require also.
1920/1080 is 1080p....so 1080P+
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its a little more than 1080p. Also I speak from experience that you can not tell a difference unless you are looking for it. It is the same screen resolution on the S7's with nougat.
Yep it is. Lets not blow this out of proportion people if you want QHD+ its in the settings under display.
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Yep it is. Lets not blow this out of proportion people if you want QHD+ its in the settings under display.
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that also. lol. its not that bad it being 1080p+ though. It looks almost the same and to most you wont be able to tell.
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I couldnt tell on my oneplus 3T, the screen was great.
QHD on a phone is overkill. It's a nice-to-have if you're trying to watch a movie, but other than that it's purely excessive. If someone showed you a 1080p and a QHD display on the S8 or even the s8 plus, I can all but guarantee you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I sure can't with my S7E.
The problem is not that 1080p looks bad. The problem is that this display has a set number of width and height pixels which is defined as 2960 x 1440. So if you want to display a picture which is 2220 x 1080 in a display which size isn't a multiple of the picture you have to interpolate. You somehow need to have just 1080 pixels in a row where there are supposed to be 1440. Why don't they go with 720p instead? Well I guess it would also look shi**y :/
Just my thoughts, I have never seen a S7 or S8 display.
EDIT: I just think about this from a delevoper perspecive. The developer thinks: Let's make a black 2px line there -> it's a 2px line.
Because you cant fit a multiple of 1080 in 1440 the interpolation would make a 2,66px line. As you know you cant color 0.66 parts of a pixel black. So most likely the whole pixel will be black which results in a 3px black line where there should be a 2,66px line. As this happens with every pixel of the display the image won't just get inaccurate but also the GPU has to do some very unnecessary scaling work.
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The problem is not that 1080p looks bad. The problem is that this display has a set number of width and height pixels which is defined as 2960 x 1440. So if you want to display a picture which is 2220 x 1080 in a display which size isn't a multiple of the picture you have to interpolate. You somehow need to have just 1080 pixels in a row where there are supposed to be 1440. Why don't they go with 720p instead? Well I guess it would also look shi**y :/
Just my thoughts, I have never seen a S7 or S8 display.
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It's the same as changing the resolution of a computer or monitor display. The interpolation isn't the issue, every manufacture has that down pat. 720p would make a noticeable difference, even in basic browsing and function. 1080p is enough that on a screen the size of the S8 or S8+ you wouldn't be able to see the individual (or interpolated) pixels.
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It's the same as changing the resolution of a computer or monitor display. The interpolation isn't the issue, every manufacture has that down pat. 720p would make a noticeable difference, even in basic browsing and function. 1080p is enough that on a screen the size of the S8 or S8+ you wouldn't be able to see the individual (or interpolated) pixels.
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I didn't say that this is not the same. But when I buy a 1080p monitor, I use it in 1080p because thats what it is intended for. You won't see pixels on a 500+ ppi device. But the image will be totally unaccurate and that's not what I generally like to look at. I just tried this in photoshop and the effect is even worse than I thought and demonstrated by that example picture in my last post. Here's what it'll really look like. You want to look at this? Of course it will be very small pixels but do you really don't mind?! I know I do.
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I didn't say that this is not the same. But when I buy a 1080p monitor, I use it in 1080p because thats what it is intended for. You won't see pixels on a 500+ ppi device. But the image will be totally unaccurate and that's not what I generally like to look at. I just tried this in photoshop and the effect is even worse than I thought and demonstrated by that example picture in my last post. Here's what it'll really look like. You want to look at this? Of course it will be very small pixels but do you really don't mind?! I know I do.
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That's not at all what it will really look like. Doing something in photoshop is not even close to how it will look in real life. Please look at the phone before you assume what it will look like. I just switched my phone from 1080p to QHD and back again, and I literally cannot tell the difference, even with my face pressed inches away from the phone.
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That's not at all what it will really look like. Doing something in photoshop is not even close to how it will look in real life. Please look at the phone before you assume what it will look like. I just switched my phone from 1080p to QHD and back again, and I literally cannot tell the difference, even with my face pressed inches away from the phone.
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You can't negotiate with the pixel science
Most likely the pixels are just to small to see a difference but I will take a look at the phone when I get it to judge wether switching to 1440p or not
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You can't negotiate with the pixel science
Most likely the pixels are just to small to see a difference but I will take a look at the phone when I get it to judge wether switching to 1440p or not
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But don't forget these OLED panels use a diamond pentile subpixel arragement, so the interpolation isn't quite the same as a traditional RGB LCD monitor.
It's REALLY REALLY difficult to tell the difference between QHD and 1080p on the S7. At more than about a foot, it's nearly impossible to tell. I know what you're saying, I hate running monitors at non-native resolutions.
If it bugs you that much, just change it.
If lower resolution gets me another 1hr SOT per day, I'll drop all the way to the bottom. Can't tell the diff.
I just changed to 1080 p on my S7E (was at the highest rez setting). Really can't see a difference. Icons and keyboard are a bit larger. Texts are a bit bigger. But as far as sharpness, look of the display, not an issue. Just going to test and see if this makes a difference much on SOT or not. I can always change back to the highest rez setting if I want - takes about 30 seconds to do.
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I just changed to 1080 p on my S7E (was at the highest rez setting). Really can't see a difference. Icons and keyboard are a bit larger. Texts are a bit bigger. But as far as sharpness, look of the display, not an issue. Just going to test and see if this makes a difference much on SOT or not. I can always change back to the highest rez setting if I want - takes about 30 seconds to do.
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This setting should not affect the size of the screen elements (icons, text) at all.
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This setting should not affect the size of the screen elements (icons, text) at all.
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The initial change of setting could change aspect ratios, but a quick restart should fix it.
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I use Nova launcher, Swype and Handcent texting app. It changed the size of icons, the size of font, the size of the keyboard and the size of the texts (the bubbles and text font). It did increase the size on all of those. Also increased the size of the quick settings, etc. It's not a big deal, but it did increase the size of things a bit. Has caused no problems so far otherwise.
Related
http://gawker.com/5558442/how-apple-tricks-you
Read the pile of BS Steve has been heaping on the world. Time to send in the Androids.
This is worth reading. This is the CRAP people believe. Got to love the Fanboys
I don't get the conspiracy about the screen... the resolution has been doubled horizontally and doubled vertically. That means that where there was previously one pixel, there are now four. Am I missing something?
HONESTLY, I will tell you I am not particularly fond of Apple. I prefer actual use to "gagets". However, there is no conspiracy here as uansari1 mentioned. They have done quite a nice job as always.
The iPad among other devices is quite impressive too, but quite useless. Still, it has had very impressive sales numbers.
Hey, you don't need the geeks' approval to sell your product . You are marketing to the masses...
Okay who am I kidding I HATE APPLE LOL.
Nope. You're pretty much right. Retina display did just that. 4 pixels squeezed to one spot as opposed to 1 pixels squeezed in 3gs/3g per spot. Theoretically, it'll look better.. but is it any better than Super AMOLED or let's just compare it with AMOLED.. better or not noticeable?
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Nope. You're pretty much right. Retina display did just that. 4 pixels squeezed to one spot as opposed to 1 pixels squeezed in 3gs/3g per spot. Theoretically, it'll look better.. but is it any better than Super AMOLED or let's just compare it with AMOLED.. better or not noticeable?
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Its all about fidelity. I think that AMOLED on our Nexus still has a noticeable advantage. Why would anyone want such a high-res 3.5 inch display? I was hoping 4.0 inch, it seems optimal.
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Its all about fidelity. I think that AMOLED on our Nexus still has a noticeable advantage. Why would anyone want such a high-res 3.5 inch display? I was hoping 4.0 inch, it seems optimal.
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Like, how the hell would Steve know that it even has 300+ ppi or ****? Lol, his eye can only see up to 300. =P Unless he's some Jobsbot or ****. ROFL.
Dumb Apple. It's not only the res that bothers me, it's also how close to fraud they are on their ads.
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I don't get the conspiracy about the screen... the resolution has been doubled horizontally and doubled vertically. That means that where there was previously one pixel, there are now four. Am I missing something?
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I don't know if I trust Apple's claim yet. You know how Google's kinda stretching the truth with the 800x480 claim for the resolution of the nexus one's screen? You know, because of the pentile sub-pixel layout, where the green sub-pixels are 800x480, but the red and blue sub-pixels are actually half that in a checkerboard layout? I can't help but wonder if Apple is doing something like this, too.
In Engadget's article on the Vietnamese iphone 4 leak where they look at the display under a microscope, http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/29/iphone-4g-put-under-a-microscope-960-x-640-looks-like-a-lock, the pixels seem to be layed out in a diagonal pattern, rather than the typical horizontal/vertical rows and columns. It looks very much like the checkerboard pattern of the blue and red sub-pixels in the nexus one's pentile display, except with green added. They may be counting their pixels the same way google counts the red and blue sub-pixels on the nexus one, in which case there's actually only half the pixels present as there should be for a typical display of the claimed resolution, and they're using shady wordplay and interpretation of the definition of resolution to achieve their claimed resolution. Basically, they'd be selling a display with 307,200 pixels in a different arrangement as a 960x640 display, even though a 960x640 display should actually have 960 x 640 = 614,400 physical pixels present.
So, it's quite possible Apple's trying to pull a fast one here and give their specs an artificial boost. I could be totally wrong, but I sure wouldn't be surprised.
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Like, how the hell would Steve know that it even has 300+ ppi or ****? Lol, his eye can only see up to 300. =P Unless he's some Jobsbot or ****. ROFL.
Dumb Apple. It's not only the res that bothers me, it's also how close to fraud they are on their ads.
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Actually, the reason is probably very clear. It wasn't done for looks, the goal was compatibility with older apps - clean and fast upscaling. When you double the resolution and have some way of distinguishing between "older" and "newer" apps, you can as simple as stretch each "old" pixel on 2x2 "new" pixels, without involving any math - and it makes fast and easy upscaling.
[edit] Moreover, it might even be the default way of app execution - unless the app triggers something that notifies the OS that it's capable of using the full resolution, and then it isn't upscaled.
[edit 2] If it indeed works that way - which I'm quite sure it does - then it's a real cause to be pissed at Apple for not telling that upscaled graphics on older apps will look just the same as they did on the older iPhone, until they're updated for compatibility.
Based on the PPI #'s, it is 2x better, not 4x better. Also, based on their PPI claim, it would have to be a a full on 960x640 display with no staggering of any of the pixels.
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Like, how the hell would Steve know that it even has 300+ ppi or ****? Lol, his eye can only see up to 300. =P Unless he's some Jobsbot or ****. ROFL.
Dumb Apple. It's not only the res that bothers me, it's also how close to fraud they are on their ads.
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Because it's twice the old PPI Not hard to know that if you are selling the device for over 3 years with same PPI all the time
I still get a kick out of seeing 'Retina Display'. Rofl!
.... looking for how this affects Nexus One.... Not seeing it. Spam.
Fellas, the issue with the screen resolution claim is about the acutal image they displayed while talking about it.
What they showed as beingthe 4x iteration, wasn't actually a properly upsampled letter.
ZERO to do with the actual screen technology and 100% to do with whoever put the video demo together.
Just to be clear here. The discrepancy here is not due to the 2xPPI == 4x#pixels issue.
Apple is claiming that the new screen is double the "pixels per inch" in both dimensions which gives it 4 times the pixels. Ignoring whether they have some sort of non-standard pixel layout like the pen-tile AMOLED screens, nobody is debating that math.
But, the problem that was pointed out in that article is that in their marketing images they are showing an example of what a character looks like when rendered anywhere from 3x to 5x the number of "pixels per inch" which means they are showing what a character looks like on a screen with somewhere between 9x to 25x the number of "megapixels" or pixels per square inch.
In reality, what they are doing is just showing a pixelated character and then a character at full resolution on whatever medium they are describing the improvement without regard to whether the number of pixels is correct to match the specs. They are trying to show you what "type" of improvement you will see, not the exact "extent" of that improvement. In the case of the projection screens at the keynote, it is probably not likely that a difference of merely 2x2==4 would have been visible from the rear seats in the auditorium so they went up to 5x5==25 to get the point across. The image on their web site looks like it is closer to 3x3==9 which is much closer, but still an exaggeration.
In either case, the images should have been tagged with a disclaimer that the resolution difference was exaggerated to show the nature of the improvement.
On a related side note - I also get a kick out of the claims that 300 DPI is beyond the resolution of the human eye (paraphrasing).
Ummm... DPI is not related to the eye's ability to resolve details, unless it is combined with distance. You can have a 5 DPI display at a hundred feet or so and the eye might not be able to see the pixels. Or, you could put a 600 DPI display right in front of the eye and see all the pixels you want to see. Until you couple a DPI rating with a viewing distance it has no bearing on whether the eye can resolve the pixels.
This isn't so much a lie, though, as I'm sure they are referring to 300 DPI at the typical distance a phone is used from the eye, but that isn't universally true for eveyone's usage habits. But, I'm sure quite a few Apple ignorami will believe that Apple has somehow fundamentally irreversibly and magically exceeded a universal threshold that has taken their technology beyond the absolute limits of human perception. Umm, right.
And, on a practical note, I would care about this distinction since I do commonly use my phone to do a little light reading with Alkido before I go to sleep and when I do that I have my glasses off and the phone maybe 2 inches from my face (I have really bad myopia) and I can see all of the pixels on the N1 (which is not so far away from the 300 DPI limit that they claimed) in all of their pixelated glory. I'm sure I would see the pixels on the new iPhone when I did that as well... :-(
[Update - I never watched the original keynote and I have now seen a few sites that discuss the advances in the iPhone 4 display who have more completely quoted Steve Jobs as having said "at a distance of about a foot" or something along those lines. That makes the statement actually reasonably appropriate so my comments above are based on quotes that were incomplete. You can't equate DPI to the eye's ability to resolve details without mentioning a viewing distance and it appears that Jobs correctly included the distance...]
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.... looking for how this affects Nexus One.... Not seeing it. Spam.
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Good Point...I'm not seeing it either.
I’m going to be buying a new phone soon. I’ve been eyeing up the Galaxy S II but I thought I might as well wait and see what is announced this month. One thing that all top end rumoured phones have in common is a 720p display. I have to admit this alone has tempted me to wait. But then I got to thinking, aside from the ‘cool’ factor. What benefit in the real world will a 720p display bring us?
The two main advantages that I can see are improved PPI and the obvious advantage when playing 720p videos. But a higher PPI means more processing power, which in turn means lower battery life. Also from an admittedly purely lazy point of view it means having to zoom in further to be able to read text.
A 720p display will now mean that 480p videos on youtube and the like will be upscaled and won’t look as good. ‘Just choose the 720p option’ you say. Fine, so long as you’re on wifi. Until 4G hits and is widespread (which in the UK is going to take a while) it will mean longer waits and buffer issues.
Yes I’m nit picking but I’d genuinely like to hear your thoughts on the pros and cons of a 720p display. I know there will be many more I’ve missed.
i see it from 2 sides....
720p = really nice picture quality
720p bad for some apps/games, which might no longer run properly, unless fixed, or some how the hardware can auto adjust the resolution to stretch it to fit.
720p can be a bit of a pain, if some Apps/Games developer decide to use too small of a touch area, due the larger dot-pix available in the 720p area
that also means DVD quality or lower quality videos played on the 720p will look like blurry or smeared, that can be fixed with software/hardware correction, like games.
^^ All that.
Plus, I don't really see the need for a 720 screen that's around the 4" size. Do you really need pixels that small? They'll be smaller than photons if we carry on like this and then it'll be reality that'll have to catch up with our tech
Personally, I wouldn't hold back for purely that one feature, but who knows what else is round the corner. Get a phone and let it be the best for a few months and then slowly drop down the list. As everyone always says, there's always something better coming, and if you waited then you'd never get anything.
Incidentally, I do have the SGS2, and it is REALLY nice
well definitely 1080p will be around the corner as we already stepped into the 720p kingdom
so 1080p on a 4" display would not be a long wait, but it will really make you think, what's the point of cramming so much in such a little screen
i can see 1080p to be a normal thin on a 10" tablet, but on a phone... that's a bit much
i do hope they don't go beyond 720p on any screen smaller than 5"
imagine running Windows Vista/7 on 15" wide LCD at 1080 (there are many laptops that are actually like that) it's soooooo eye strain-ful, it literally kills the eyes
i always down set the resolution back to something more readable to not strain my eyes
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i always down set the resolution back to something more readable to not strain my eyes
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Do you need your reading glasses as well, so you can find your pipe and slippers?
i don't wear glasses, and i intent to keep it that way, reason why i prefer an easy reading, on 480 vs 720
on 720 i'll have to probably the the font size twice as big, to make it easily legible when you are in the car, bus/subway, or walking
no i don't get dizzy reading while doing any of the above
many people can't read if they are in a moving vehicle
probably due the same relevant issue about having to scan the text in a small device and straining your vision, while trying to keep an eye on the road and not crashing
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i don't wear glasses, and i intent to keep it that way, reason why i prefer an easy reading, on 480 vs 720
on 720 i'll have to probably the the font size twice as big, to make it easily legible when you are in the car, bus/subway, or walking
no i don't get dizzy reading while doing any of the above
many people can't read if they are in a moving vehicle
probably due the same relevant issue about having to scan the text in a small device and straining your vision, while trying to keep an eye on the road and not crashing
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I agree with you, therebisbreally no reason to go above 720p resolution on small smartphone devices. I myself notice my eyes begin to hurt after more than thirty minutes or so of heavy reading on my Sensation. Now I know my Sensation does not have 720p but I am just saying the size of the screen and the text on that screen is no doubt a strain on the human eye after extended reading done on the device. 1080p is definitely so,ethimg that should just make it to the larger tablets and not smartphones.
Oh and yes actually paying attention to the road while you are driving is a highly recommended activity lol.
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that also means DVD quality or lower quality videos played on the 720p will look like blurry or smeared, that can be fixed with software/hardware correction, like games.
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This is just plain wrong, low resolution video will look just as good on 720p displays.
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Maybe i miss-understood your question, but i am using the Galaxy SII
I never had any screen / resolution issues
Well,first off,let's not forget that Android supports changing the DPI in build.prop(I think-haven't bothered in a while).I don't think manufacturers will leave 220-240 dpi of the current devices on 720p devices,but they would rather pump it up,so that everything stays the same size,but is just crisper.That's just my thought though.
On another note,lower resolution videos won't look worse at all.Resolution in that aspect is irrelevant.The same way that you can play a 720p video on a 480p screen without problems,you can do the opposite just as well.Unless some manufacturer decides to f*ck it up with upscaling tricks and stuff that will defo make the image blurry and ugly.
The only really valid argument on the topic,in my opinion,is the possible lack of processing power,especially when it comes to GPUs.We even saw the Mali MP-400,the most powerful GPU on a PHONE (DON'T SAY ABOUT THE A5 IN THE iPAD!!!!) to date,struggle to keep up in the case of the Galaxy Note's resolution.If the next gen of SoCs doesn't improve quite a lot in that aspect,we'll see some performance drops for sure.Not to mention the worst thing,the losses of battery life in case that extra power is met.Not that I mind about battery life as long as it makes it through the day,but many many people do.
Do any of you guys know the p in 720p stands for?
It has nothing to do with resolution, which is what you are all trying to talk about.
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Do any of you guys know the p in 720p stands for?
It has nothing to do with resolution, which is what you are all trying to talk about.
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progressive, opposed to the i of interlaced.
Technically 720i use half the vertical pixels for each frame.
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Do any of you guys know the p in 720p stands for?
It has nothing to do with resolution, which is what you are all trying to talk about.
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Yes man,we know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p
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I decided to test if there's an actual difference in FHD and WQHD quality wise, and I definitely see a pretty discernible difference, the most with black text on a white screen ( i.e. in facebook messenger ). In WQHD the text is definitely much crisper. After spending a bit of time at WQHD and switching back to FHD, it looks blurry.
So anyway to get to the point of the post, I've seen some S6 / S7 / S8s with dead pixels recently and It's got me wondering, does keeping it at WQHD constantly increase pixel strain, thus increasing the probability of dead pixels? It sounds plausible for someone who's not that informed with how super amoled displays work, but it could just be completely wrong, so if anyone has a definitive answer I'd really appreciate it, cheers!
Reducing the resolution doesn't reduce the number of pixels used, they are all used no matter what rez you set, so no, no difference in pixel strain
Does anyone know? There is a big difference especially if the screen is bigger and the resolution is not quad HD. If you do not know how to tell them apart, just google pentile vs rgb
https://www.google.ca/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA789CA789&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=nX3HW_zyMuTH0PEPqb-uyAE&q=pentile+vs+rgb&oq=pentile+vs+rgb&gs_l=img.3..0j0i7i30k1.99779.100357.0.100738.2.2.0.0.0.0.68.109.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.2.108....0.NDFhIw5uI5c
EDIT: Answer found, Pentile display for Honor Note 10
Debatable. This is a big screen phone not the typical 5.5 inch ones back in the day. I still want to know if this is rgb or not. I have a mi max 3 and the screen is pretty good
It is almost sure pen tile. As I know, only tab s and tab s2 hase pure rgb matrix... I had and have both tabs. And had at least 15 different phones, also flagships between them,wirh pentile
Picture quality is night and day... You can never get that accuracy of colors in pen tile.
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it is amoled .. from samsung ..
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Everyone knows that from the spec sheet. I'm talking about the subpixel arrangement. RGB vs pentile diamond layout. It makes a difference on a big display
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it is amoled .. from samsung ..
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i bet samsung has only one type of amoled .. or 2 amoled and super amoled .. so try google it
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Before I made this thread I did that, no answer can be found. I'm trusting the owners of this phone on this site to help find the answer.
Answer found. Pentile display said by Frankie Tech. He says it in his video around the 8:17 mark. He said Honor 8X LCD is sharper than Honor Note 10
Hi,
Me, I have the device for a few hours, and I must say that I find the display really good.
I even tried to downgrade it to lower resolution and it still looks good with no real difference in sharpness. Now, I am almost 50 years old and so maybe my eyes are fooling me... so don't trust this too much. But I'm pretty sure that for "daily use" it is more the enough.
There's one thing that bothers me though : it is that slightly blueish tint it's getting when viewed at about 20°C vision angle. Not as bad as on earlier LG displays, but still there. Noticeable only on white backgrounds It's common "disease" for OLED/AMOLED displays.
Anyways, how can I say it's pentile or RGB ? The link provided explains the difference but doesn't say how to check does it ?
Regards.
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Hi,
Me, I have the device for a few hours, and I must say that I find the display really good.
I even tried to downgrade it to lower resolution and it still looks good with no real difference in sharpness. Now, I am almost 50 years old and so maybe my eyes are fooling me... so don't trust this too much. But I'm pretty sure that for "daily use" it is more the enough.
There's one thing that bothers me though : it is that slightly blueish tint it's getting when viewed at about 20°C vision angle. Not as bad as on earlier LG displays, but still there. Noticeable only on white backgrounds It's common "disease" for OLED/AMOLED displays.
Anyways, how can I say it's pentile or RGB ? The link provided explains the difference but doesn't say how to check does it ?
Regards.
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It's easy to tell by experience at looking at screens especially on a big screen even on a 5.5 inch screen I can tell the difference/ Oneplus owners have complained about their displays being not as sharp too because they use 1080p pentile displays now imagine this on an even bigger screen like the Honor Note10, 8X and 20X.
The one method to use is to drop bits of water on a screen displaying text and use a magnifying glass then you can examine the subpixel arrangement to determine if it's pentile or rgb. Smaller drops of water magnify the pixel more and largers drops magnify less
This is example is a RG/BW LCD which is also blurry. Notice how this display has the blue in a diamond pattern similar to a Pentile layout. This makes text and edges of icons and pictures and finer detail look blurry.
http://i.imgur.com/yS4djZz.jpg
A traditional RGB LCD has all the colors in a straight line
https://www.phonescoop.com/img/g/489_9cdf1622caf8656bee9d377123e7817f.jpg
I'm fine with pentile on a 2560x1440 or higher display but not on anything lower as it's noticeable
These are pictures of my mi max 3 6.9 inch lcd display. Rgb layout, red blue green all in a straight vertical line. One of the reasons why I picked the max 3 over the note 10 was the display sharpness and accurate color reproduction.
Now that the embargo is up, one of the things I've found interesting from the reviews is that the 7 Pro screen resolution defaults to 1080p, and you have to go into the settings to switch it to 1440p.
Maybe Google thinks people will notice the improved battery life more than they will notice the reduced resolution.
Unless you hold the phone a few inches from your face, or you use a magnifying glass, you will NOT see any discernable difference. So it depends on what is more important to "you", longer battery life per day, or imaginary higher screen resolution?
Interesting, I didn't know that. Does that really save that much battery? The whole screen is still being used.
It's also a weird thing to do marketing wise - hey you've got a great display, but we'll show you worse quality...
What's the point of having the higher resolution if many people will never use it?
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Now that the embargo is up, one of the things I've found interesting from the reviews is that the 7 Pro screen resolution defaults to 1080p, and you have to go into the settings to switch it to 1440p.
Maybe Google thinks people will notice the improved battery life more than they will notice the reduced resolution.
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Sometimes they just make us do all the settings which are suitable for us!
mko000 said:
Interesting, I didn't know that. Does that really save that much battery? The whole screen is still being used.
It's also a weird thing to do marketing wise - hey you've got a great display, but we'll show you worse quality...
What's the point of having the higher resolution if many people will never use it?
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Some people are into specs and will buy based on that alone, whether it's the SOC, the screen resolution, the refresh rate, or the camera modules even though in real world use most of the specs make no discernable difference to 99% of end users.
Is it possible to make a Toggle to switch between 1080p and 1440p in Tasker?
I'm leaving mine at 1080p. It's plenty good. Hardly even noticable.
I cant tell a difference, well not one that makes any difference so i'll leave it at 1080p if its going to give a bit more battery life.
Has anyone done a comparison on the difference between 1080 and 1440
Paz9 said:
Has anyone done a comparison on the difference between 1080 and 1440
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The only thing I can reliably see is when in the setting itself when you toggle between the two resolutions I notice that the clock in the notification shade will move about 1/8th inch to the left on QHD and then move back to the right on FHD. Give it a try and see.
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Has anyone done a comparison on the difference between 1080 and 1440
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As I mentioned previously, I currently have an S21 ultra (snapdragon) and evaluating via this forum my buying the 7 Pro. On my S21U I have the Display Tester app (available in both free and "Pro" versions). The S21U also comes, out of the box, set to 1080P. However, when you look at 1080P using Display Tester you will see that the gamma of the display is out of wack. There the gamma is around 1.4 or so, leading to a somewhat washed out image. Setting it to WQHD+ (3200 x 1400) Gamma goes to 2.2, the accurate setting.
Interested if anybody wants to test this out on the 7P.
peterg21 said:
As I mentioned previously, I currently have an S21 ultra (snapdragon) and evaluating via this forum my buying the 7 Pro. On my S21U I have the Display Tester app (available in both free and "Pro" versions). The S21U also comes, out of the box, set to 1080P. However, when you look at 1080P using Display Tester you will see that the gamma of the display is out of wack. There the gamma is around 1.4 or so, leading to a somewhat washed out image. Setting it to WQHD+ (3200 x 1400) Gamma goes to 2.2, the accurate setting.
Interested if anybody wants to test this out on the 7P.
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Just tested it. Same exact results you report on the S21
peterg21 said:
As I mentioned previously, I currently have an S21 ultra (snapdragon) and evaluating via this forum my buying the 7 Pro. On my S21U I have the Display Tester app (available in both free and "Pro" versions). The S21U also comes, out of the box, set to 1080P. However, when you look at 1080P using Display Tester you will see that the gamma of the display is out of wack. There the gamma is around 1.4 or so, leading to a somewhat washed out image. Setting it to WQHD+ (3200 x 1400) Gamma goes to 2.2, the accurate setting.
Interested if anybody wants to test this out on the 7P.
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What's the main issue with this?
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What's the main issue with this?
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According to my (possibly fallible eyes), it’s 1.4 @ 1080 and between 2.2 and 2.3 at 1440.
RebDovid said:
According to my (possibly fallible eyes), it’s 1.4 @ 1080 and between 2.2 and 2.3 at 1440.
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How is that a bad thing exactly?
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How is that a bad thing exactly?
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Here are a couple of links which explain Gamma and why it is important:
The Main Reason Monitor Calibration Is Essential
Gamma is used in digital photography to determine the image's brightness and is important to understand.
www.lifewire.com
The importance of gamma
"Gamma" has to do with how a display translates input signal levels into the intensity of output light. We show you how to understand the relationship.
www.androidauthority.com
This should be tested in both 60hz and Adaptive/120hz mode as the calibration between different refreshrates can differ.