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Hello, I have the Note 20 Ultra N986B / DS model
I wanted to know if that model is the one sold in my country, Spain.
If it is compatible with all the 2g / 3g / 4g / 5g networks used in Spain because I have little network coverage.
Thanks
It's a global international model so should work. You'd still need to check the phone bands against your carrier though. Never heard of them.
I know there will be B and '0' versions like s21 ultra that are dual sim, but does anyone know if the US versions of s22 will have their esims enabled like the s21U (well, they finally were)? I hope so. Anyone know anything?
Samsung US claims the US models will have Nano + ESIM, but I trust Samsung info like I trust a politician.
A little eSim hope
If you watch this below video review carefully you can see on the box the dude has the US U1 unlocked Samsung direct versions of the phone and then when he goes into setting you can clearly see Sim Manager there
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra / S22 Plus - Unboxing and First Impressions
Floss is a great reviewer
Good news
Checked the S22 out today at T-Mobile and it defiantly does support Esim
Sim manager is right in there on all 3 models which are running One 4.1
ekerbuddyeker said:
Floss is a great reviewer
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No, he's not. He promoted a scam phone, sold by a scam artist. then went on a racist rant when he was called out on it.
Droid Life confirmed with screen shot on a TMO S22 that Esim is active in USA
For all wondering, I received my ultra 22 unlocked and it has a SIM card manager, and I have set it up with SIM and esim. So yes is the answer to my original question.
ekerbuddyeker said:
For all wondering, I received my ultra 22 unlocked and it has a SIM card manager, and I have set it up with SIM and esim. So yes is the answer to my original question.
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You did it with the Unlocked version from Samsung right? OP was wondering if it would work the carrier variants. I'm also interested in this. Want to run dual sim, on different networks using a carrier branded version.
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You did it with the Unlocked version from Samsung right? OP was wondering if it would work the carrier variants. I'm also interested in this. Want to run dual sim, on different networks using a carrier branded version.
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I am the op!
Yes, on the unlocked U version from Samsung. I have TMOB on esim and another carrier on SIM. Works same as my previous s22 which was a dual SIM. The only thing I haven't figured out is why I only see 5G and not 5G UC on TMOB, whether I get it or just dont see it.
ekerbuddyeker said:
I am the op!
Yes, on the unlocked U version from Samsung. I have TMOB on esim and another carrier on SIM. Works same as my previous s22 which was a dual SIM. The only thing I haven't figured out is why I only see 5G and not 5G UC on TMOB, whether I get it or just dont see it.
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I think you may be a little confused. There is no unlock u version from samsung. If you got it from Samsung and it's unlocked then it is the u1 version. The unlocked only means the SIM card. If you don't see the 5guc then you have the u1 version. If you were on the u version of T-Mobile's firmware then you would see the 5guc.
I am on the AT&t firmware on my s22 ultra. In the SIM card manager I don't see an option to turn my physical Sim into an esim. And the only way I can add an esm is if I have the QC code.
It am not confused! I have the U1 , that is correct. Though that doesn't answer why I would not see 'UC'. I have seen it for example on an unlocked Pixel 6 pro. Do you know for certain that no one with unlocked U1 sees UC?
With a physical dual sim model, can you use both physical sims and an esim?
mine is 1 nano +esim
Just finished setting up eSIM on the US SM-S908U1 S22 Ultra today working great better then expected.
I'm running my Sim biz card number off Xfinity mobile and activated the eSIM personal number off T-Mobile coz Xfinity don't support eSIM. Feels great to finally not have to carry around 2 phones for the first time.
lol, just replied here, to the other post about uw not being displayed. uggg....
more coffee down the hatch,
(any way to delete a post ?? sorry)
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It am not confused! I have the U1 , that is correct. Though that doesn't answer why I would not see 'UC'. I have seen it for example on an unlocked Pixel 6 pro. Do you know for certain that no one with unlocked U1 sees UC?
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T-Mobile network
Ultra Capacity (UC) 5G ; Band n41 (2.5 GHz) ; Band n258 (24 GHz) ; Band n260 (39 GHz) ; Band n261 (28 GHz).
S22 Ultra 5G Bands
5G bands1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 25, 28, 38, 40, 41, 66, 75, 77, 78 SA/NSA/Sub6 - SM-S908B
As you can see out of those 3 Bands on TMobile the Ultra only supports one of them. Band 28. So you might never see UC. It Depends what Band TMobile is using in your area.
Paul_Deemer said:
T-Mobile network
Ultra Capacity (UC) 5G ; Band n41 (2.5 GHz) ; Band n258 (24 GHz) ; Band n260 (39 GHz) ; Band n261 (28 GHz).
S22 Ultra 5G Bands
5G bands1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 25, 28, 38, 40, 41, 66, 75, 77, 78 SA/NSA/Sub6 - SM-S908B
As you can see out of those 3 Bands on TMobile the Ultra only supports one of them. Band 28. So you might never see UC. It Depends what Band TMobile is using in your area.
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As you can see from the attached using BAMD SELECTOR, my U1 has 3 of the TMOB 5G bands. Which one is UC?
...also I'm getting over 500mbs speed in NYC which I assume is UC. And when I compared to a T-Mobile ultra 22 in store which showed UC ieas consistently getting the same or.faster speed in my U1.
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As you can see from the attached using BAMD SELECTOR, my U1 has 3 of the TMOB 5G bands. Which one is UC?
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I only see on on your list and that 28.
Ultra Capacity (UC) 5G
With Ultra Capacity 5G, you’ll experience a performance boost, a reliable connection in crowded locations, and speeds as fast as Wi-Fi.
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Frequencies that can provide UC 5G:
Band n41 (2.5 GHz)
Band n258 (24 GHz)
Band n260 (39 GHz)
Band n261 (28 GHz)
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I recently managed to get a Tab S6 5G (rare as only launched in Korea) for use in the UK.
I had checked previously that the S6 5G used N78 SA/NSA according to GSMarena specs.
Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 5G - Full tablet specifications
www.gsmarena.com
In the UK I use Vodafone, which supports the N78 band for 5G according to its Wikipedia page
Vodafone UK - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Now while the tablet will work with LTE (but not VoLTE) I can't get it to see a 5G connection.
I'm positive this is a limitation of my knowledge in this area so could use some detailed help in understanding what the issues may be and is there any way to address them.
If I can't use Vodafone is there another UK carrier that may work?
Hey guys
Long time since I've posted on here!
I've just upgraded from my trusty 8GB/512GB Note9 N960F/DS to a 12GB/512GB S22 Ultra S9080/DS (SD) on TGY (from techinthebasket).
The phone is currently on TGY CSC but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether BRI would be better for use in the UK, specifically on O2UK?
I can see 5G is enabled, and there is 5G in my area (my wife can get it on her iPhone 12 Pro on Sky, which is hosted by O2) but I can't seem to pick up 5G on my S22. I know the 9080 only has the N78 band for O2 so maybe that's the issue - if there's only the lower band 5G in my area...
Just wondering if anyone has any experience regarding TGY vs BRI in the UK?
Thanks
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Hey guys
Long time since I've posted on here!
I've just upgraded from my trusty 8GB/512GB Note9 N960F/DS to a 12GB/512GB S22 Ultra S9080/DS (SD) on TGY (from techinthebasket).
The phone is currently on TGY CSC but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether BRI would be better for use in the UK, specifically on O2UK?
I can see 5G is enabled, and there is 5G in my area (my wife can get it on her iPhone 12 Pro on Sky, which is hosted by O2) but I can't seem to pick up 5G on my S22. I know the 9080 only has the N78 band for O2 so maybe that's the issue - if there's only the lower band 5G in my area...
Just wondering if anyone has any experience regarding TGY vs BRI in the UK?
Thanks
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I live in Sweden and the net configuration in Sweden and the UK are all almost the same. The TGY or BRI are the same phone just different SW customization, but you will not notice any difference at all.
The 4G support is very good but not 5G, the 5G band support is limited.
If you want to buy a better model, look for "SM-S908E" model. You can find it from Etoren https://eu.etoren.com/products/sams...ual-sim-sm-s908e-256gb-phantom-white-12gb-ram
I don't recommend BRI (Taiwan) or TGY (Hong Kong) if you want to take advantage of 5G. Also the SM-S908E has e-Sim in addition.
nightoooo said:
I live in Sweden and the net configuration in Sweden and the UK are all almost the same. The TGY or BRI are the same phone just different SW customization, but you will not notice any difference at all.
The 4G support is very good but not 5G, the 5G band support is limited.
If you want to buy a better model, look for "SM-S908E" model. You can find it from Etoren https://eu.etoren.com/products/sams...ual-sim-sm-s908e-256gb-phantom-white-12gb-ram
I don't recommend BRI (Taiwan) or TGY (Hong Kong) if you want to take advantage of 5G. Also the SM-S908E has e-Sim in addition.
p.dixon0 said:
Hey guys
Long time since I've posted on here!
I've just upgraded from my trusty 8GB/512GB Note9 N960F/DS to a 12GB/512GB S22 Ultra S9080/DS (SD) on TGY (from techinthebasket).
The phone is currently on TGY CSC but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether BRI would be better for use in the UK, specifically on O2UK?
I can see 5G is enabled, and there is 5G in my area (my wife can get it on her iPhone 12 Pro on Sky, which is hosted by O2) but I can't seem to pick up 5G on my S22. I know the 9080 only has the N78 band for O2 so maybe that's the issue - if there's only the lower band 5G in my area...
Just wondering if anyone has any experience regarding TGY vs BRI in the UK?
Thanks
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Unfortunately the only option for 5G in the UK is with a Exynos variant. Even though your device reflects 5G is enabled and it has the corresponding 5G Band, it's not going to connect. Snapdragon is a much better choice even though you'll sacrifice 5G and Carrier Aggregation and of the 3 SM-9080 variants Hong Kong TGY is your best option.
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Thanks for your replies guys, I really appreciate it!
Can I ask, Carrier Aggregation, that's 4G+ isn't it? If so, it's getting 4G+ OK - did a few speed tests earlier and was getting 117Mbs download speeds... Does that should about right for CA? (It's faster than I saw with the Note9 on 4G+ on the same network anyway)
p.dixon0 said:
Thanks for your replies guys, I really appreciate it!
Can I ask, Carrier Aggregation, that's 4G+ isn't it? If so, it's getting 4G+ OK - did a few speed tests earlier and was getting 117Mbs download speeds... Does that should about right for CA? (It's faster than I saw with the Note9 on 4G+ on the same network anyway)
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No, Carrier Aggregation is different than 4G+ but if you're getting 117 MBs that's enough for most situations, right? Carrier aggregation is used in LTE-Advanced in order to increase the bandwidth, and thereby increase the bitrate. I can't see rolling the dice on a Exynos variant just to have 5G. And it is a roll of the dice. Samsung's Quality Control is asleep at the wheel.
Something many don't realize, wafer yeild in Samsung's Foundries for the Exynos SoC was a dreadful 30% but it's Snapdragon yeild wasn't much better at 35%. If I were to consider an S22 Ultra it would be after Qualcomm moved it's production to TSMC's Taiwan Foundry in June or July. That will mark Qualcomm's next gen chipset. But even then problems could still nag the device since the marriage between Android 12 and OneUI 4.1 has to date been a messy affair.
I imported a Samsung Galaxy Note²⁰ Ultra from Hong Kong to use on the UK Network.
It was a TGY variant and worked flawlessly.
BandOfBrothers1 said:
I imported a Samsung Galaxy Note²⁰ Ultra from Hong Kong to use on the UK Network.
It was a TGY variant and worked flawlessly.
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I think I read a post from you on the same subject on the Samsung forums before I picked up this phone! That's actually the reason I thought I'd go ahead and get a TGY one!
Hi.
Yes I've discussed this on the Samsung Eu forums too.
Just an update in case anyone is interested - I did a speed test (OOKLA Speedtest) comparison via the browser on both my S9080 TGY (12GB/512GB) showing 4G+ on O2UK and my wife's iPhone 12 Pro showing 5G on Sky (runs on the O2UK network) from the same location last night.
My phone got a maximum of 145.7mbs download on 4G+, her iPhone hit a maximum of 53mbs on 5G in the same location. Of course, they could have been connected to different cell towers etc.
The Hong Kong TGY variant is the closest you'll find to a pure android experience on a Samsung device. Less bloatware, best overall network connectivity with one exception. Samsung should modify it's 5G capabilities so it will work on as many networks as possible. Another improvement would allow system apps to be removed or at least disabled, which will likely never happen. Those two modifications would be a huge step forward.
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The Hong Kong TGY variant is the closest you'll find to a pure android experience on a Samsung device. Less bloatware, best overall network connectivity with one exception. Samsung should modify it's 5G capabilities so it will work on as many networks as possible. Another improvement would allow system apps to be removed or at least disabled, which will likely never happen. Those two modifications would be a huge step forward.
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Samsung do this on purpose to cripple devices and stop people from different regions buying the same product. Similarly with their warranties, its only valid and recognized for the country that the device was intended for. A pure anti consumer move by Samsung. Opposite of the evil Apple, whereby their iPhones don't have bands or CA crippled nor do they deny warranty for customers of other regions.
Just a quick update on this, I've just 'upgraded' my O2UK SIM only tariff to the same 150GB deal but told them my device is 5G enabled this time (I was on a Note9 previously). Anyway, tariff change is completed and I now have 5G (Can also see that HD Voice over 4G is active too)
Hello, this is my first post, i bought on launch week a s22 ultra on bestbuy (US model), SM-S908U1, and i can't connect to any 5G network, i have 1 simcard and 1 esim no neither of em connect to 5G, only LTE+
doing some research i found Chile use the n78 band, and seems this version of the phone doesn't support this band.
So there is my question, if i change the CSC or the whole firmware to Other like one of the Providers from here ( ENTEL or WOM , etc) this will add the support for the n78 band, or it's hardware related and there is nothing that can be done?
Thanks you very much in advance
ck.
It is hardware
your specific model does not support that 5G band on your country so no choice. check bands first before buying
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Chile use the n78 band
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You need 908-E (Taiwan) model to use n78
PS: why do you need more than 120-160 mbps on LTE+ networks?
Abaddon said:
your specific model does not support that 5G band on your country so no choice. check bands first before buying
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Are you sure? If he needs n78, it is very well supported on the U1
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G (US) (SM-S908U1) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G (US) (SM-S908U1)
cacombos.com
craznazn said:
Are you sure? If he needs n78, it is very well supported on the U1
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G (US) (SM-S908U1) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G (US) (SM-S908U1)
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U1 does not have n78
Abaddon said:
U1 does not have n78
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Uh, it sure does. Did you either select SIM2 or check on a network that doesn't need n77/78? Your screenshot says no n77 so you'd better explain to the people on c band that they shouldn't be on it.
craznazn said:
Uh, it sure does. Did you either select SIM2 or check on a network that doesn't need n77/78? Your screenshot says no n77 so you'd better explain to the people on c band that they shouldn't be on it.
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The network I am currently on requires N78 thus I cant connect to 5G where I currently am. and the u1 only has 1 physical sim and I dont use eSim. The three telcos here in The Philippines only support N78. My s21u which is G998B has N78 and can connect easily on any network here on 5G. Can't comment on band C as I am not back in the US till Dec. Correct me me If I am wrong but afaik the u/u1 does not support n78 unless it is locked via CSC. I am on XAA, XAA, XAA csc
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The network I am currently on requires N78 thus I cant connect to 5G where I currently am. and the u1 only has 1 physical sim and I dont use eSim. The three telcos here in The Philippines only support N78. My s21u which is G998B has N78 and can connect easily on any network here on 5G. Can't comment on band C as I am not back in the US till Dec. Correct me me If I am wrong but afaik the u/u1 does not support n78 unless it is locked via CSC. I am on XAA, XAA, XAA csc
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Pretty sure all U/W models, including U1 supports n77/n78. The cacombos site does hw dump on radio support. If I check 2263 menu on my SIM2 (ESIM) / tmo, I see what you see, but on sim1 it shows what I posted.
Service provider software version
SAOMC_SM-S908U1_OYM_TMB_12_0021
TMB/VZW,TMB/XAA
And yes, I'm on cband on vzw n77, which shouldn't be possible if your data was correct.
gsmarena shows for the U/U1 model (and probably the W model) the following for 5G:
1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 41, 66, 71, 260, 261 SA/NSA/Sub6/mmWave - USA
I wonder if the hardware is there and it just disabled by the U/U1 software (but without bootloader unlock, I do not think you can flash the E software on it; this would only enable n77/n78 if the hardware was there but just disabled by software).
The B series is missing n2 and n71 (though in Canada, Telus uses n66).
Not sure how reliable the gsmarena is but this is what they say.
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gsmarena shows for the U/U1 model (and probably the W model) the following for 5G:
1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 41, 66, 71, 260, 261 SA/NSA/Sub6/mmWave - USA
I wonder if the hardware is there and it just disabled by the U/U1 software (but without bootloader unlock, I do not think you can flash the E software on it; this would only enable n77/n78 if the hardware was there but just disabled by software).
The B series is missing n2 and n71 (though in Canada, Telus uses n66).
Not sure how reliable the gsmarena is but this is what they say.
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GSM arena is almost never accurate. It is also not disabled by the software, since obviously people on vzw and att in the USA can use c band on the U/U1
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GSM arena is almost never accurate. It is also not disabled by the software, since obviously people on vzw and att in the USA can use c band on the U/U1
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So what is a good site to get band info?
crazyut said:
So what is a good site to get band info?
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Already linked above, cacombos.com, as they only use data retrieved from the phones themselves from crowdsourcing, so the data is sparse but all popular devices should be there. Check under "Select Country / Provider", if "hardware" is available, then that is the most accurate data you'll have. If only a provider name is available, then you'll only see support for that provider.
All the other sites just gets the info from manufacturer websites or have useless tech journalists run some commands they don't even understand. See the FAQ on how the data is collected and how you can contribute.
Still, CSC can modify band selection, so it's possible (for example, the TMB csc) will not enable n77/n78, but the U/U1/W hardware for sure supports it
Then, we can deduce at leastbone or more of the following:
Both or either of the previously mentioned sites for band info have incorrect information (related to the E series of Samsung is used in MRU that has 5G in 4 spots on the island currently should work in Chile and possibly the B series (yeah, I know exynos)).
That carrier does not yet have 5G.
That carrier does not yet have 5G in that area where the OP is attempting to use the device.
The carrier uses bands other than N78 that that are not activated or oresent on the phone or recognized by the sim.
The carrier is blocking 5G based on the IMEI since it is not a carrier phone (I won't call Telus and Rogers out on that).
The plan is not a 5G plan (not all carriers include 5G on all their plans) and some only for tab users for that matter.
The sim is not a 5G sim or is defective (though I would think the account would determine what the sim is using).
Best Buy sold a defective phone.
Best Buy sold a phone with incorrect software like froma return or repackage or refurbishment (like when I install U or U1 cleanly on my direct from Samsung W series s22 ultra and neither Telus or Rogers will activate with 5G then forget to put back on W before I return it) though that seems far-fetched but possible.
Carrier-lock would appear not to be an issue as the OP gets LTE+.
Funny story: bought the a71 5G u1 series from the US and whether using XAA or TMB software, the Telus sim shows N41 and N66 (Telus 5G offering) when query of ths settings is initiated but the phone will not activate in Telus 5G (LTE only).
I say funny as an American living in Canada, the carriers here just copy the states (except for that carrier lock crap; forgot what is like).
I'm pretty sure Canadian carriers are actually worse than USA, just purely based on available plans and prices. There's the usual whitelisting BS as well. Thank God we still have TMobile, while having it's own BS, is bringing the competition and allowing pretty much anything on it's network.
What I think now is n78 is hardware supported but is locked or hidden especially on carriers outside US or by csc combi
Hi
Im in Chile (work trip) and i got S22 U European model (im living in Finland).
i'm just wondering if my phone supports n78 band.
Model is S908
Some pages say yes and this other no..
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G (SM-S908B) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G (SM-S908B)
cacombos.com
¿Funciona el Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra en Chile?
En está página vamos a mostrarte la compatibilidad del Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra con las redes de telefonía móvil de Chile y con las operadoras de telefonía que dan servicio en Chile.
www.kimovil.com
Samsung GALAXY S22 Ultra 5G 256GB (SM-S908B/DS)
Exynos 2200 | AMOLED 6.8" WQHD+ | 12GB | 5000mAh | 108+12.2+12+12MP : 40MP | Sensor Huella | 5G | NFC | IP68 | USB-C | Modelo: SM-S908B/DS
movilplanet.eu
What is the truth?
In Finland we also have using the n78 in operators, but i don't test yet.
Imppis said:
Hi
Im in Chile (work trip) and i got S22 U European model (im living in Finland).
i'm just wondering if my phone supports n78 band.
Model is S908
Some pages say yes and this other no..
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G (SM-S908B) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G (SM-S908B)
cacombos.com
¿Funciona el Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra en Chile?
En está página vamos a mostrarte la compatibilidad del Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra con las redes de telefonía móvil de Chile y con las operadoras de telefonía que dan servicio en Chile.
www.kimovil.com
Samsung GALAXY S22 Ultra 5G 256GB (SM-S908B/DS)
Exynos 2200 | AMOLED 6.8" WQHD+ | 12GB | 5000mAh | 108+12.2+12+12MP : 40MP | Sensor Huella | 5G | NFC | IP68 | USB-C | Modelo: SM-S908B/DS
movilplanet.eu
What is the truth?
In Finland we also have using the n78 in operators, but i don't test yet.
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So on that cacombos page, there is no "hardware" dropdown, so the hardware dump wasn't performed and is not a complete picture of what the device can do.
when i bought on bestbuy i told em i need the International one, unlocked and such,they said this was the one
so im currently dont know what to do
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So on that cacombos page, there is no "hardware" dropdown, so the hardware dump wasn't performed and is not a complete picture of what the device can do.
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did u get a chilean simcard? try entel or movistar and also WOM, they offer 5g on prepaid simcards