I want a New phone and I would be using it in Canada. I have been looking mostly on Aliexpress
because I can save quite a bit of money. I am looking for a Motorola because suppose to be clean android and
little or no Bloatware at least the version from Canada. I know nothing about downloading Roms and don't know the meaning of what Rooting is
so I have to keep things simple. My dilemma is do I get a Global Version because I will get OTA updates with no hassle or a Chinese Version that the seller has flashed a Global Rom on? The Chinese with the global rom may or may not get OTA updates but is cheaper than a True Global Version from Aliexpress.
The seller says I can update the phone myself? I don't mind updating if the phone notifies me of an update and I just have to Tap to install
but I don't know if it is that easy? What should I do?
Also Motorola doesn't have any Global Version I can find like Xiaomi has but even they do not have all models in Global Versions.
I would never buy a phone off AliExpress because this seller is known to sell fake produccts.
Generally, AliExpress is a great place to source your merchandise only if you know how to find genuine products on the site.
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(...) I have been looking mostly on Aliexpress
because I can save quite a bit of money. (...)
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By looking for cheap buys and not knowing anything about the device, you really won't save anything.
In my opinion, it will be better for you if you buy on the local secondary market a phone from a year or two ago, which was categorized as mid-range on the day of its release.
Be careful with any to good to be offer's! Do your homework while shopping...
Yes I know about that. A genuine seller has the money back guarantee protection through aliexpress. The sub par ones do not. I bought a Redmi Note 8 Pro 3 years ago with no problems.
Done lots of homework. When I see a Samsung S22 for $200 I know it's a fake.
The sellers with the guarantee are what I look for.
So now we have got past about shopping on Aliexpress
Is anyone going to comment if the Chinese with a global rom be ok given my skill level or forget it and only buy a true "Global Version"?
My only problem about the CN/Global Rom is getting system and security updates.
Updates get rolled by OEM if they deem it necessary. Has nothing to do what ROM initially is flashed. Providing updates causes enormous costs, which OEMs naturally try to avoid because it reduces the profit margin.
Only with Google devices ( AOSP based ) you can be sure to always get latest updates.
So why then if you buy a Chinese phone flashed with a Global Rom the sellers says OTA updates not supported?
1. My understanding: Global ROM, as also Chinese ROM, is software, whereas Global Version is hardware. But I may err as always.
2. OTA stands for Over the Air ( FOTA – Firmware Over the Air ). It refers to the wireless delivery of new or updated software or firmware to devices such as smartphones and tablets.
The OTA process is self-explanatory in that it delivers updated software wirelessly or ‘over the air’. These updates are distributed over Wi-Fi or mobile broadband using a function built into the smartphone or tablet’s operating system or through a special OTA app that’s given root access. The update goes out to all the designated smartphones or tablets from one central control panel.
I am following you sort of. I know that updates are sent OTA.
What I need to know is how will I get these software and firmware update if the seller is saying "OTA updates" not supported after they install the Global Rom?
My experience so far with pervious cell phones is this process happens automatically with maybe the hardest thing to do is accept it by a Tap.
If this process is complicated because it is not supported I can't continue about thinking to buy as I am not a Tech Savvy cell phone guy.
the answer is very simple: you have to take care of possible updates yourself
No Problem but is it easy like a matter of Tap Yes to update or is like loading another updated Rom?
I don't know if you figured it out or not but in my opinion if you are saving a good amount go for Chinese version and you can simply flash a global one and root your device to get your device certified
Updates will not be the issue you can install the updates the only issue will be after every update you have to root your device again
As you said you don't know how to root. root is something you should have at least basic knowledge to do soo otherwise you may brick your device
So facts are Infront of you if you still think it's worth buying and you can manage the struggle
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Contract is ending soon and I'm waffling between the LG G3 and the Galaxy Note 4. After checking out both their specs I decided a concern that none of the spread sheets cover is OTA updates. Yes I could just as easily root the phone and not have to worry about it but for the general consumer who isn't going to do that and instead depend on the good graces of the manufacturer and carrier to support their product can be an issue.
So, if both phone have specs that I think I would be happy with which one would be supported by the manufacturer with OTA updates the best?
go for nexus
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Contract is ending soon and I'm waffling between the LG G3 and the Galaxy Note 4. After checking out both their specs I decided a concern that none of the spread sheets cover is OTA updates. Yes I could just as easily root the phone and not have to worry about it but for the general consumer who isn't going to do that and instead depend on the good graces of the manufacturer and carrier to support their product can be an issue.
So, if both phone have specs that I think I would be happy with which one would be supported by the manufacturer with OTA updates the best?
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i don't know your country. but as per me if you go with unlocked/carrier free phone then go for nexus. it will get timely updates and will be best suited for performance.
Oppo is quite alright when you have their flagship model, but once they bring out a newer model, they'll pretty soon drop you like a brick. When they released the Find 5 it was every 2 weeks for beta builds, every 4 weeks for a stable release. Now you'd be happy to see a beta build appearing every few months for the Find 5. Find 7 and 7a (especially the 7a) are on a faster release shedule right now. But you can't get Oppo with a contract afaik.
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Contract is ending soon and I'm waffling between the LG G3 and the Galaxy Note 4. After checking out both their specs I decided a concern that none of the spread sheets cover is OTA updates. Yes I could just as easily root the phone and not have to worry about it but for the general consumer who isn't going to do that and instead depend on the good graces of the manufacturer and carrier to support their product can be an issue.
So, if both phone have specs that I think I would be happy with which one would be supported by the manufacturer with OTA updates the best?
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Well, you're with Verizon, which is notoriously slow with updates. I think you'll have more to worry about Verizon than the manufacturers. The Note 4 is a hell of a device, but if it's anything like the Note 3 is with Verizon, development will be poor. It took months for someone to figure how to root the thing (and it took legend/genius Geohot to do it). The LG will be far more development friendly.
I just pre-ordered the phone and I'm curious what the long term support is going to be like. I did some googling and didn't really find any solid evidence that they will support the phone after release.
Has anyone owned their products in the past and received major Android upgrades?
They are not up to par with Motorola or anything, but I googled and was able to find an old link explaining how to upgrade to ICS for a prior phone:
http://www.alcatelonetouch.com/global-en/support/faq/ot-995ics-fota.html
Hopefully since this is their flagship phone, there are some developers that will work on bringing updates to the phone
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Also found confirmation of updates from the SVP of US branch an hour or two ago: http://androidandme.com/2015/05/new...l-3-launch-updates-and-giveaway-announcement/
We’re committed to ensuring that we always have the very best user experience possible and plan to have Idol 3 software updates available to consumers via over-the-air updates. Timing on these updates will be on a rolling basis as needed.
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Do you know if, usually, with Alcatel on xda, we may have, at least, a rooted device + a custom recovery to make backups...?
That's what I'd like to know before I purchase one.
Can someone tell me the difference between the two models??
International Version vs. Chinese Version
No Support vs. Little More Support
International LTE Bands vs. Chinese LTE Bands
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International Version vs. Chinese Version
No Support vs. Little More Support
International LTE Bands vs. Chinese LTE Bands
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Which one is better for US?? Which one is international?
Dav-701l = International Version
Depends an what you want, right now i dont recommend any of these anymore!
Maybe have a look at Xiaomi Max or Zenfone 3 Ultra...
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Dav-701l = International Version
Depends an what you want, right now i dont recommend any of these anymore!
Maybe have a look at Xiaomi Max or Zenfone 3 Ultra...
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Which one is better for the US?? Or for me to develop different modem packages for??
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Dav-701l = International Version
Depends an what you want, right now i dont recommend any of these anymore!
Maybe have a look at Xiaomi Max or Zenfone 3 Ultra...
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Why don't you recommend it anymore?
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Why don't you recommend it anymore?
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Awfull Support from Huawei(Softwarewise) and no Custom ROM Support.
If you want a cheap device and can accept maybe some problems and a maybe for Android N Update then you can buy it.
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Awfull Support from Huawei(Softwarewise) and no Custom ROM Support.
If you want a cheap device and can accept maybe some problems and a maybe for Android N Update then you can buy it.
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Hmm okay. I read some comments on the page of the max at http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p8max-reviews-7200.php Some people received the Marshmellow OTA recently...?
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Hmm okay. I read some comments on the page of the max at http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p8max-reviews-7200.php Some people received the Marshmellow OTA recently...?
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If your interested in the p8 max then check out the asus zenfone 3 ultra.. same size phone with some way better spects
I agree. I have had both the DAV-701L and DAV-703L. Hardware is ok but Huawei is H O R R I B L E at software. The worst experience in my life was with huawei software and their "support" which is hell-bent to "make it impossible". I have sold both phones and will wait for the Zenfone 3 Ultra. **** you, Huawei.
Do not "upgrade" to the Marshmallow (Android 6). It will ruin the phone. Newer is not better, especially with software "updates". Check-out the "changelist" for the Android 6 "upgrade" here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67787826&postcount=83
HiKirin is a horrible chipset.
And for who might be interested in the differences between the two, hardware-wise they are EXACTLY the same. DAV-703L's case finish is rougher/cheaper and the SIM/card slots are also flimsier than the DAV-701L and you feel it instantly as you touch the device.
Also, DAV-703L is absolutely FULL of chinese software crap that you cannot get rid of. You have Yellowpages (for china, of course) in the Phone app and it doesn't come with anything Google (including PlayStore).
If you really want this phone, get the DAV-701L. The 703L is not worth it, even thought it is the same phone, the software (which is already crap) ruins it.
And to finish :
" But I guess there is no cure for stupidity, since every time I "upgraded" my phones ever since the Galaxy Note N7000 got Android 4, they always screwed it up, every single manufacturer (LG, Samsung, HTC). They're not at fault here, I'm the idiot who never learns his lesson and disables the damn updates. "
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I agree. I have had both the DAV-701L and DAV-703L. Hardware is ok but Huawei is H O R R I B L E at software. The worst experience in my life was with huawei software and their "support" which is hell-bent to "make it impossible". I have sold both phones and will wait for the Zenfone 3 Ultra. **** you, Huawei.
Do not "upgrade" to the Marshmallow (Android 6). It will ruin the phone. Newer is not better, especially with software "updates". Check-out the "changelist" for the Android 6 "upgrade" here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67787826&postcount=83
HiKirin is a horrible chipset.
And for who might be interested in the differences between the two, hardware-wise they are EXACTLY the same. DAV-703L's case finish is rougher/cheaper and the SIM/card slots are also flimsier than the DAV-701L and you feel it instantly as you touch the device.
Also, DAV-703L is absolutely FULL of chinese software crap that you cannot get rid of. You have Yellowpages (for china, of course) in the Phone app and it doesn't come with anything Google (including PlayStore).
If you really want this phone, get the DAV-701L. The 703L is not worth it, even thought it is the same phone, the software (which is already crap) ruins it.
And to finish :
" But I guess there is no cure for stupidity, since every time I "upgraded" my phones ever since the Galaxy Note N7000 got Android 4, they always screwed it up, every single manufacturer (LG, Samsung, HTC). They're not at fault here, I'm the idiot who never learns his lesson and disables the damn updates. "
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I disagree with most of this cause if you have time and knowledge you can get rid of the Chinese crap and have all Google things you want on it.
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I disagree with most of this cause if you have time and knowledge you can get rid of the Chinese crap and have all Google things you want on it.
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I assumed that also and just like you, I was wrong. You can uninstall some of the software and install google play store apk, sure.
But the chinese stuff that I'm talking about is embedded into the phone's core functions (dialer, menu, settings, gallery etc.). You can't get rid of them without rooting and doing some very risky editing of the phone's config files which will most likely result in a bricked device.
Bonus points : Absolutely no Huawei service center located in any other part of the globe except ASIA, will be able to fix a bricked DAV-703L. So if you brick it, you have to send it back to China. The reverse is true for the DAV-701L.
The genius that is Huawei, decided that if you can afford to pay 600$ for a phone, then you don't have the money to buy a plane ticket. Idiots...
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I agree. I have had both the DAV-701L and DAV-703L. Hardware is ok but Huawei is H O R R I B L E at software. The worst experience in my life was with huawei software and their "support" which is hell-bent to "make it impossible". I have sold both phones and will wait for the Zenfone 3 Ultra. **** you, Huawei.
Do not "upgrade" to the Marshmallow (Android 6). It will ruin the phone. Newer is not better, especially with software "updates". Check-out the "changelist" for the Android 6 "upgrade" here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67787826&postcount=83
HiKirin is a horrible chipset.
And for who might be interested in the differences between the two, hardware-wise they are EXACTLY the same. DAV-703L's case finish is rougher/cheaper and the SIM/card slots are also flimsier than the DAV-701L and you feel it instantly as you touch the device.
Also, DAV-703L is absolutely FULL of chinese software crap that you cannot get rid of. You have Yellowpages (for china, of course) in the Phone app and it doesn't come with anything Google (including PlayStore).
If you really want this phone, get the DAV-701L. The 703L is not worth it, even thought it is the same phone, the software (which is already crap) ruins it.
And to finish :
" But I guess there is no cure for stupidity, since every time I "upgraded" my phones ever since the Galaxy Note N7000 got Android 4, they always screwed it up, every single manufacturer (LG, Samsung, HTC). They're not at fault here, I'm the idiot who never learns his lesson and disables the damn updates. "
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I assumed that also and just like you, I was wrong. You can uninstall some of the software and install google play store apk, sure.
But the chinese stuff that I'm talking about is embedded into the phone's core functions (dialer, menu, settings, gallery etc.). You can't get rid of them without rooting and doing some very risky editing of the phone's config files which will most likely result in a bricked device.
Bonus points : Absolutely no Huawei service center located in any other part of the globe except ASIA, will be able to fix a bricked DAV-703L. So if you brick it, you have to send it back to China. The reverse is true for the DAV-701L.
The genius that is Huawei, decided that if you can afford to pay 600$ for a phone, then you don't have the money to buy a plane ticket. Idiots...
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I am so sorry you cant root your phone and do some simple build.prop changes!
Me too, actually. Programming (even simple text) puts me right to sleep. I really admire people who know how to configure Android so, good on you.
Rooting was not an option for me as in my country (although illegal, they did it anyway), Huawei made it so that the warranty is rendered invalid if I get the bootloader unlock code from them. So you guys are lucky and I'm happy for you but I've given up on Huawei.
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Me too, actually. Programming (even simple text) puts me right to sleep. I really admire people who know how to configure Android so, good on you.
Rooting was not an option for me as in my country (although illegal, they did it anyway), Huawei made it so that the warranty is rendered invalid if I get the bootloader unlock code from them. So you guys are lucky and I'm happy for you but I've given up on Huawei.
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You're in an EU country, so it doesn't matter what what Huawei tell you about the warranty, it's against the EU law. So unlocking the bootloader won't void you warranty. And I have no clue of programming, but I got rid of all the Chinese stuff on my 703, and I'm full on google, like on my previous LG G2.
If you're serious about your phone, you have to invest time on searching and editing. I couldn't be more happy about my P8 max since it is now exactly how I wanted it to be at the beginning. No single Chinese app or word, everything replaced with the right software, very long SoT.
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You're in an EU country, so it doesn't matter what what Huawei tell you about the warranty, it's against the EU law. So unlocking the bootloader won't void you warranty. And I have no clue of programming, but I got rid of all the Chinese stuff on my 703, and I'm full on google, like on my previous LG G2.
If you're serious about your phone, you have to invest time on searching and editing. I couldn't be more happy about my P8 max since it is now exactly how I wanted it to be at the beginning. No single Chinese app or word, everything replaced with the right software, very long SoT.
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That is very cool. Would be nice if you made a tutorial for the other people who are using the DAV-703L to get rid of all the chinese bloatware.
I know what they are doing is not legal but if I argue with them, they just won't give me the code. Weird thing is, even the tech support from UK told me the same thing.
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You're in an EU country, so it doesn't matter what what Huawei tell you about the warranty, it's against the EU law. So unlocking the bootloader won't void you warranty. And I have no clue of programming, but I got rid of all the Chinese stuff on my 703, and I'm full on google, like on my previous LG G2.
If you're serious about your phone, you have to invest time on searching and editing. I couldn't be more happy about my P8 max since it is now exactly how I wanted it to be at the beginning. No single Chinese app or word, everything replaced with the right software, very long SoT.
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How long is your SoT? I have 701L (unrooted) and get 6 hours max I bet.
I where Surpprised two see both the 703L handset does manage LTE+ 4G here in Denmark.. (a 32GB titanium grey and 64GB silver, both 703L on EMUI4.0)
at least on the celluar-carrier "3" here in scandinavia..(only LTE-carrier i have checked on) (attached screendumps)
NB.. in respons to upper-replys about lacks of 703L vs international 701L version..like getting google-services, like play-store on 703L.. is as easy as just open "Hiapp" and type "google" and take play store from there or any other google international service..// purchased another p8max at the start of 2016, and wonderd about getting the 701L version, but didnt make sense, it costed close too double the price of the 290US delivered' i ended up paying for an 703L titanium grey..
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I where Surpprised two see both the 703L handset does manage LTE+ 4G here in Denmark.. (a 32GB titanium grey and 64GB silver, both 703L on EMUI4.0)
at least on the celluar-carrier "3" here in scandinavia..(only LTE-carrier i have checked on) (attached screendumps)
NB.. in respons to upper-replys about lacks of 703L vs international 701L version..like getting google-services, like play-store on 703L.. is as easy as just open "Hiapp" and type "google" and take play store from there or any other google international service..// purchased another p8max at the start of 2016, and wonderd about getting the 701L version, but didnt make sense, it costed close too double the price of the 290US delivered' i ended up paying for an 703L titanium grey..
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What theme is that?
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What theme is that?
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the theme is "Spark" its an free huawei theme..i like it, and partically the symbols.
how do i see what LTE-band im connected on, when im on 4G on the 703L here in Scandinavia.
A little puffled :cyclops: that the 703L does manage LTE+ 4G now...
is there anyway to see the carrier & band-specs on the 4G-connection that are in play? (*will take a look in the app store.. )
As we know India got the Nougat. Brazil did too. EU finally gets it's share.
Nothing in US, except a soak announced by RepublicWireless. On the official Motorola / lenovo forums you can be banned if you talk about sideloading the Nougat on US devices. While Moto allows unlocking the bootloader by providing the unlock codes (in US they benefit from that by canceling the warranty), they frown upon what happens next. Like people will unlock the bootloader just for the pleasure of giving up the warranty, nothing more.
I was a Moto fan, me and my family owned a Moto DEFY XT (557D), MotoX (1st gen), Moto G (3rd gen), Moto E (2015) and now in use we have a Moto G4 Plus and a Moto X Pure.
Sadly, service (updates) for US is now last in line, bad interactions on their forums, no true international LTE bands support (band 20 is ommited from US phones, even if it is becoming one of the most important in EU for CA and rural).
I was planning to get the next Moto G5, but sadly I will have to move to a different company for my next phone.
What's sad is the fact that for each of us that have purchased their last Moto, there are probably 10 people that's never owned a Moto that will buy it. The US is pretty much the backwater for Lenovo and we probably are only a small fraction of their sales.
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At the price point that they try to sell the new Moto they needed loyal customers. The people that hunt bargains will not go for their inflated prices, not when they have likes of ZTE or Alcatel in the stores. Bad marketing strategy.
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At the price point that they try to sell the new Moto they needed loyal customers. The people that hunt bargains will not go for their inflated prices, not when they have likes of ZTE or Alcatel in the stores. Bad marketing strategy.
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I usually get a new phone every two years. I have had my G4 for six months, so I won't make any statements about what I will or won't buy at this time since a lot can change in 18 months. But I will say that Lenova is far from being the only manufacturer to drag their feet on updates. And in reality, I really don't care that much about getting stock upgrades since I unlock and customize every device I have. The custom firmwares are usually much better choices IMHO. So when I am ready to get a new phone (or tablet), the custom ROM choices and development activity will influence me more than whether or not the manufacturer is updating in a timely manner. And introductory prices usually fall in time
Custom firmwares are zero without updated blobs for camera, sensors, modem... That requires manufacturer support.
However my beef is mainly that lenovo had put the US market on backburner.
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Custom firmwares are zero without updated blobs for camera, sensors, modem... That requires manufacturer support.
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All very true. But it seems that the updated drivers for various features are made available long before stock ROM upgrades, thus custom ROM's are also available. In five years of using Android smart phones and tablets, I have never had to wait long for decent custom ROMs based on the latest version as opposed to the long delays for stock upgrades by some manufacturers. Huawei and Asus come to mind.
Anyhow, I wasn't trying to negate anyone's position about the current situation. I merely was stating my own personal opinion and what works for me. My own 2-cents worth so to speak.
US soak seems to be older (-13) than what is out now (-14). Probably is somehow related to the RepublicWireless preloaded app.
I would like to try the US soak test. Has anyone have a URL for it? I heard their was issues but sounds like the same issues I read about Nougat. Any truth to that?
I'm using Nougat 14 and it's having battery drain problems, it's general (check Lenovo forums).
Maybe for that reason they didn't update the US version for now.
Anyway it's taking too much time for be an Android version similar to AOSP, other companies like Huawei have very modified versions and are updating more fast.
Maybe Nokia is going to be what Motorola was. I'm going to wait the Nokia 8 presentation for decide if I buy it or a Moto G5 Plus.
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I usually get a new phone every two years. I have had my G4 for six months, so I won't make any statements about what I will or won't buy at this time since a lot can change in 18 months. But I will say that Lenova is far from being the only manufacturer to drag their feet on updates. And in reality, I really don't care that much about getting stock upgrades since I unlock and customize every device I have. The custom firmwares are usually much better choices IMHO. So when I am ready to get a new phone (or tablet), the custom ROM choices and development activity will influence me more than whether or not the manufacturer is updating in a timely manner. And introductory prices usually fall in time
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The main reason I've stuck with Moto so long is the custom firmware options. It's actually unprecedented for me to be still running a stock rom all this time.
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I'm using Nougat 14 and it's having battery drain problems, it's general (check Lenovo forums).
Maybe for that reason they didn't update the US version for now.
Anyway it's taking too much time for be an Android version similar to AOSP, other companies like Huawei have very modified versions and are updating more fast.
Maybe Nokia is going to be what Motorola was. I'm going to wait the Nokia 8 presentation for decide if I buy it or a Moto G5 Plus.
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I ran Nougat NPJ25.93-14 for a week and didn't see any battery drain whatsoever. In fact, the battery life was slightly better than any of the custom ROMs I have tried. I would have stuck with it except I missed the advanced boot menu and being able to customize the status bar. Not to mention it still has bloat that I really don't need.
First hello to everyone,
I was wondering if this time will be the same as it was with G6 so I asked support and they answerd this
I qoute
Good afternoon Alen,*
Thank you for your query regarding your LG G7;*
I have had a look into this for you and sadly as we are an in warranty repair centre this is not something that we get advance notice on. As LG handsets only got Android 8 a few months ago I am guessing that this would be at some point in the early quarter of next year.*
Once the android version is created it then has to go to the individual manufacturers who then test for compatibility and will rework anything which causes issues and then the testing on handsets begins and I am led to believe that this is a length process.*
The likely hood is that the update will be on the handsets before we even know that it has been released.*
So when it comes to update, even with "lg's new update center" thing will be the same.
And to be clear i don't hate or something, I am okey with my device preformances this is more discussion type post cuz as i remember lg said that this new center sill get us update faster and clearly thats not the case
Sorry for typos
There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
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There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
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I could not agree more to this. Software upgrades are a nice thing if they take the time to run it stable. I prefer stable software and better security above that. Thats why i left Sony for one reason tru unstable releases that took long time to fix or not and a phone that loose hes full functuality with crashes or connection problems at most important times is a pain.Untill now my G6 did fine and my G7.Be patient and be happy your G7 is a trusty companion on the way.
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This is why Apple products are expensive and maintain their value. Long term Seamless updates across all devices, regions and carriers. Android OEMs need to stop modifying Android and just use stock software route. No one wants bloat and gimmick features at the expense of slow updates that may never come. They pretty much do this to market new devices and screw us.
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There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
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The T-Mobile variant is on the July 1 security patch, as of the time of this post it is 84 days behind. Not looking good
Support rarely if ever gets any info about things like software releases up until they actually come out. Until LG actually makes a statement it is best to just be patient.
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The T-Mobile variant is on the July 1 security patch, as of the time of this post it is 84 days behind. Not looking good
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Even my G7+ (India Variant) is on june security patch. At least security updates have to be released if not OS updates. Every money transfer is don't online nowadays, LG should take it seriously. Also there is still no 4k 60 fps update that rest of the world got.
Android P on the G7? Don't hold your breath. At the earliest, I'd say March of 2019. More realistically is May/June however. LG is quite terrible with Android updates.
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This is why Apple products are expensive and maintain their value. Long term Seamless updates across all devices, regions and carriers. Android OEMs need to stop modifying Android and just use stock software route. No one wants bloat and gimmick features at the expense of slow updates that may never come. They pretty much do this to market new devices and screw us.
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Seamless? Hardly. They have had numerous issues with updates.
Apple products are expensive because people are fan boys and will pay a lot of money for questionable tech. They don't even include fast chargers. They are seperate and very expensive.
This computer repairman who has worked on Apple products for years should be required viewing before buying Apple products.
https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup
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Seamless? Hardly. They have had numerous issues with updates.
Apple products are expensive because people are fan boys and will pay a lot of money for questionable tech. They don't even include fast chargers. They are seperate and very expensive.
This computer repairman who has worked on Apple products for years should be required viewing before buying Apple products.
https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup
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Pixel devices are the best representation of Android. They receive monthly updates, have no bloat and long term update support when compared to every other OEM. LG has always been behind updates and there's no excuse for that except they would rather sell you another device. We have let OEMs be ok with poor device support because we don't demand more. That's the definition of a fanboy, last time I checked we had to sue LG to get their **** done right
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...oop-lawsuit-settlement-g4-v10-v20-nexus-5x-g5
Google even attempted to help some Nexus 6p users migrate to the Google pixel and that didn't require a lawsuit to make it happen
8bitbang said:
Pixel devices are the best representation of Android. They receive monthly updates, have no bloat and long term update support when compared to every other OEM. LG has always been behind updates and there's no excuse for that except they would rather sell you another device. We have let OEMs be ok with poor device support because we don't demand more. That's the definition of a fanboy, last time I checked we had to sue LG to get their **** done right
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...oop-lawsuit-settlement-g4-v10-v20-nexus-5x-g5
Google even attempted to help some Nexus 6p users migrate to the Google pixel and that didn't require a lawsuit to make it happen
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Yeah unfortunately I was stuck with tmobile. I agree the pixel is the way to go.
The only issue I have with the Pixel is Google using it to push there cloud storage. That's why they won't put SD card slots on them. And I'm sorry but despite the fact it's 2018 we are still not a 100% connected world, not to mention at least in the US almost every carrier has data limits. Plus there are some that don't want to put everything they own up in the cloud. SD card storage is really the only reason I won't buy a Pixel.
And don't even mention USB-c adapters, I shouldn't have to carry around extra crap for more storage!
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Apple have good products but not good for 1000 $ or more. They do update older models but we all know that they also made older phones go slower and there was problems with battery drain ect.
I am from Bosnia so here Iphones are really expensive and i mean it. Also Pixel is just a little bit cheaper.
I really like LG phones, after my HTC I had G4 G5 G6 and now G7. If I hadnt drop my G6 and brooke it I wouldnt even go to G7.
For the money you get good quality phone, nice specs and I dont mind ux cuz i am not fan of that rounded look on stock android.
I went and took Huawei p20 after my g6 and I had it for a day then returned it give more money and bought G7 cuz p20 is like toy compared to g7.
And even updates are not that big of a deal for me but what i mind is that they promised that big update center for faster updates and now not that we wont get android 9 for a while but as you guys said we are still on july patch.
I know that its better to wait for stable versions but they could be more efficiant with patches.
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sooner then u think
Take a look
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Take a look
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Man you have your phone number and the imei number visible in the screenshot. If I were you I would remove them.
And you're using a custom rom so that is not the official update.
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Man you have your phone number and the imei number visible in the screenshot. If I were you I would remove them.
And you're using a custom rom so that is not the official update.
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thats obviously not my phone number , it somehow always fails to read it out and shows this number , no matter what sim card i put in the phone my real number ends on 59 , and woooahhh you got my imei and what r u gonna do with it i have the bill for the phone with imei my name etc so it gives you nothing
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thats obviously not my phone number , it somehow always fails to read it out and shows this number , no matter what sim card i put in the phone my real number ends on 59 , and woooahhh you got my imei and what r u gonna do with it i have the bill for the phone with imei my name etc so it gives you nothing
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If that's not your real phone number good for you. If you put your IMEI number on purpose and you know what the risks are, good for you. My message was to let you know in case you forgot about it.
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If that's not your real phone number good for you. If you put your IMEI number on purpose and you know what the risks are, good for you. My message was to let you know in case you forgot about it.
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thx buddy
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Hi, how did u installed this custom rom?
Anyway, official Android Pie looks to be way forward from now. LG V40 was just released, with Android 8.1 .....
On the bright side, for those with smart watches using Google Wear so was Wear OS 2.0 just released and it is entirely based on 8.0 Oreo. I suppose handsets with Android 8.0 will have a more bug free experience using those watches.