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Hi,
I'm new to android and nexus S and I tried to install some applications that need to be root.
I searched a little and did find out that are many ways to root. Some of them explained in xda-developers websites.
Before I do the root process I do like to know more about the security issues of doing that. Which risks I'll soffer by doind that? May I trust the code writted "not by" google developers? What is different in that?
Thanks,
Bruno.
it has nothing to do with all of the above
it's to gain super power
you can do all kind of thing when rooted, otherwise many apps will not work
you don't need to root to use the phone, you can always find alternative app that does not require root, probably with less feature and options
non-root is to protect newbies from damaging the phone
only 1337 people root their phones to hack the innards out of it, to master control the phone to do things only imagination can provide.
I would say the main number one reason to root would be to use an app like Titanium Backup to save your settings/applications. There are also some nice utilities to have, like ad blockers and other stuff that require root privileges.
As stated, it's not really something that you need to do, it's more for power users who want total control of their device.
there are new Backup software that does not require root, like MyBackup
but it sucks compared to TitaniumBackup
however the PAID version of MyBackup Pro or something like that, can do sort of the same thing like TitaniumBackup can do without ROOT
but still shys in comparison to TB
its already been said, but the point of rooting is you gain complete super power over your device. so many things can be done with root, great custom ROMs out there. its a no brainer, and i was undecided about it at first too. but once i rooted, i'll never go back. there are too many advantages to list, and not one negative reason to avoid rooting.
No point
Another reason would be to overclock your phone.. Overclocking makes your phone "faster" but honestly i wouldnt bother. i had recently had the T-Mobile G2 and i rooted it and tried overclocking using an application called "setcpu" but it completely made the phone weird and somewhat unresponsive...
Anyways im currently using the Nexus S and i tend to think of rooting it but honestly, theres no point. this phone is in tip top shape and perfect just the way it is. i mean what ROM is out there for it besides Cyanogenmod 7? DONT ROOT! OR.. i told myself if this phone just starts to act weird and not work well, ill most likely just root it.
jeremyt727 said:
Another reason would be to overclock your phone.. Overclocking makes your phone "faster" but honestly i wouldnt bother. i had recently had the T-Mobile G2 and i rooted it and tried overclocking using an application called "setcpu" but it completely made the phone weird and somewhat unresponsive...
Anyways im currently using the Nexus S and i tend to think of rooting it but honestly, theres no point. this phone is in tip top shape and perfect just the way it is. i mean what ROM is out there for it besides Cyanogenmod 7? DONT ROOT! OR.. i told myself if this phone just starts to act weird and not work well, ill most likely just root it.
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CM7 itself is all you need to make you want to root. It's so easy to root.
Also. Voodoo Sound is another good reason, Voodoo Sound is simply amazing
Nexus S was built to be hacked. Use it for it's primary reason why it was built.
because you can is enough of a reason to
In simple words, you get administrative access to ur kernel !
How can I root my nexus S?
Explained in threads in Nexus S Android Development section
Check this thread.
Is there an official method used to gain superuser access to android phones? Like correct me if im wrong but the majority of android users choose android due to the fact that it is an open source o/s right?.They have apps in the official android market that requires superuser access so why wouldnt Samsung, HTC, LG etc have a official method of granting superuser access? Rather than forcing their customers to trust third party sources to gain root to your phone their own phone. Which in turn could brick phones if not done right in turn leaving the company with that much more repairs to deal with?!
Depends on what brand you have. z4root and superoneclick are very popular methods for rooting your phone.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S 4g, and neither of these programs works. What is the official way to gain root access that google supports? I cant seem to find out anything on googles support page.
neon_skunk said:
I have a Samsung Galaxy S 4g, and neither of these programs works. What is the official way to gain root access that google supports? I cant seem to find out anything on googles support page.
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You won't find anything there, look in the SGS2 section and root from there, the reason Manafactures don't give ways to root your phone is because if you do it to them your waranty is void as you can cause many problems which wastes theit time and money, if they gave people a way to root many more people would be doing it without knowledge and breaking their phones giving the company a bad reputation and costing them money
This is exactly my point, the companies do not give information on how to root your phone leaving users with no option but to trust unofficial sources to gain root access to their handsets(risking a chance of a brick). Most people who buy android buy them because they can get root access to their operating system and will try what ever option they can to do so. I just dont understand why the companies make it so hard for those who would like root access to their handset as it is a key feature of owning a linux device... even if they understand that doing so will void the warranty. You are right. More people probably would brick they're phones but rooting the phone does void they warranty but then they get to charge a fee to unbrick phones Sometimes paying the company to fix your phone is your only bet when you have a hard brick on your hands.
edit: If you want, the Nexus devices, such as the recently released Galaxy Nexus, can be rooted officially.
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Most people who buy android buy them because they can get root access to their operating system and will try what ever option they can to do so.
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[citation needed]. Many? Okay. Most? No way.
I just dont understand why the companies make it so hard for those who would like root access to their handset as it is a key feature of owning a linux device...
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Android is way bigger than that. Most Android users never have or will root, and would certainly brick if they tried. That's one reason.
Another heavily argued reason is that ROMming extends the life of the device, destroying planned obsolescence. My DInc runs Abdroid 4.0 unofficially. That's one less TBolt sold.
I assume it's because rooting will allow the user to do things like overclocking which would void the warranty. So why would they freely encourage their customers void the warranty?
I’m looking at the galaxy s6 leaks and the phone sounds amazing. Take into account that I still have a droid charge and you see how excited I am to get this phone. Before I plunk down money I have to wait for it to be released. Between now and then, I need a few answers to some questions:
1. Root access – Will it be hard to root Android 5.0? I’m asking because I have all my apps and data backed up with titanium backup and want to be able to restore them to the new phone.
2. Flash – Ever since flash was officially dropped from the android realm, people have been supplying hacked versions that work with 4.X. Will this continue? I’m asking because the site I use to watch out of market football games still uses flash.
3. Keeping unlimited data – I have the unlimited data plan with Verizon and do not want to lose it. I was told by someone to buy the phone at full retail and I’d be able to keep it. I then read online about buying the phone through Best Buy and being able to backdoor keep my UDP. Someone then told me that Verizon could at any time switch me to tiered data if I do the BB backdoor thing. I’ve heard rumors that the phone will cost nearly a grand and I’m not to keen on paying that much, if I don’t have to.
What do y'all think?
Mike
beavermjr said:
I’m looking at the galaxy s6 leaks and the phone sounds amazing. Take into account that I still have a droid charge and you see how excited I am to get this phone. Before I plunk down money I have to wait for it to be released. Between now and then, I need a few answers to some questions:
1. Root access – Will it be hard to root Android 5.0?
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There's root for android 5 but you can never know what Samsung will actually do to the S6, what my head says that it will probably be a way to root but that will trigger Knox....
Enjoy, Good Luck!
Btw I hate Verizon because they don't allow to unlock HTC bootloader.
Newyork! said:
There's root for android 5 but you can never know what Samsung will actually do to the S6, what my head says that it will probably be a way to root but that will trigger Knox....
Enjoy, Good Luck!
Btw I hate Verizon because they don't allow to unlock HTC bootloader.
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What is Knox?
If I'm not initially able to root, how do I back up my apps and data to transfer them to the new phone?
beavermjr said:
What is Knox?
If I'm not initially able to root, how do I back up my apps and data to transfer them to the new phone?
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Knox is a security measure that Samsung has put into their devices, it will also show up that your device was rooted (even if you'll reflash your stock rom)
You can back up your apps with google accounts but unfortunately you will lose your app data (like levels...)
data like pictures etc.. can be saved on a sd card, pc or there's some apps that will do that without root...
-It's almost midnight I might be slow!
So how do I get around Knox saying the phone is rooted. I'm asking because I once had to unroot my current phone to take it in for warranty replacement due to screen burn in. The joys of watching online video on an unlimited data plan
Also how do I transfer app data to my new phone without a program like titanium backup that requires root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
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What is Knox?
If I'm not initially able to root, how do I back up my apps and data to transfer them to the new phone?
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You can use Helium to backup your old phone. It does not require root, and you can backup all your apps and data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
Does knox mean that the phone can't be rooted? I have been using open garden tether with unlimited data plan and want to continue once I get S6.
beavermjr said:
Does knox mean that the phone can't be rooted? I have been using open garden tether with unlimited data plan and want to continue once I get S6.
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No, you can root just fine.
In order to root Lollipop you must be able to unlock the bootloader. I don't think any of us know whether the S6 will have an unlockable bootloader or not. It may vary by carrier (here in the U.S.).
Assuming you can root the S6, be sure to make a nandroid backup before restore your apps and app data. The internals of 5.0 are VERY different than earlier versions, and restoring apps and data might (or might not) cause issues. In any case, be prepared to start over.
Reinstalling your apps from the Play Store is probably a safer approach.
hey
Any leakd photo of this phone yet?
How long will it be after the phone comes out till we know if it can be rooted?
beavermjr said:
How long will it be after the phone comes out till we know if it can be rooted?
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How long will it be after you're born until you can learn xda etiquette and not to ask unknowable questions?
(unless you're a vocational philosopher in which case I retract any snark in the above q)
You can root a phone without tripping knox, you just cant install a Custom recovery
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How long will it be after the phone comes out till we know if it can be rooted?
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That's all only related with one thing - exploits. So, it all depends on how many and how good(bad) of exploits on S6 firmware. No one could tell you now because the product doesn't exist yet. Since the security on Android become stronger, you can imagine that the time required to root the phone without tap knox will just take a longer time(Sony Z3/Z3c took them almost 4 months last time to root without void warranty) and it also depends by the sales of S6 and the community size on XDA, famous phone will get support first because of more developers.
You can use Dolphin broswer, it runs with owned ver of flash player, it built-in flash support so you don't need flash installed on system level.
Hi there,
I have been rooting all previous samsung and pixel phone but i dont know if rooting or unlocking bootlaoder is needed for HTC U11.. I mean software is fast and fluid, battery is exceptional (7 hour screen on time), not much bloatware out there, sound is alo great unless we have some sound mods out there who improve it further
so is there any advantage of rooting and going after custom ROMs/Mods ?
secondly i am using HTC phone after long time so this S On/OFF is confusing. If we have unlock bootloader and root/Twrp then can we flash all custom ROMs ? or we must need to do S-OFF in order to flash some custom ROMs ?
Thanks
S-off is protection for system turned off so anything written to root is permanent.
Unlocking bootloader is what protects the phone from loading software that isn't official.
Yes you can flash roms etc without s-off. S-off is dangerous but can offer extra methods of recovery should your phone die unexpectedly. It is highly recommended to buy s-off via sunshine app if you plan on rooting.
Rooting has its uses but it has more disadvantages. Some apps won't run, ie banking apps, you can easily cheat games but it makes things boring, you can block adverts but you can get rootless options too.. Swings and roundabouts. Personally I don't root anymore.
Rajaasim1980 said:
Hi there,
I have been rooting all previous samsung and pixel phone but i dont know if rooting or unlocking bootlaoder is needed for HTC U11.. I mean software is fast and fluid, battery is exceptional (7 hour screen on time), not much bloatware out there, sound is alo great unless we have some sound mods out there who improve it further
so is there any advantage of rooting and going after custom ROMs/Mods ?
secondly i am using HTC phone after long time so this S On/OFF is confusing. If we have unlock bootloader and root/Twrp then can we flash all custom ROMs ? or we must need to do S-OFF in order to flash some custom ROMs ?
Thanks
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You dont need to be S Off to install a custom ROM. Although there are more and more apps and theming engines that pretty much do what the old rooting used to, I have been rooting since the old school evo days. You can always go back to stock in most cases, but its nice to see what the different custom roms developers have to offer and experience the different user interfaces. The installation of a different kernel is the the best advantage to me if you are looking to tweak battery usage and certain functions. Plus you van back up and dirty flash most roms without much hassle or loss of data. I currently am S On and have used a few different daily driver roms with no issues for years now. Just read up on firmware updating and the Rom requirements before loading.
shivadow said:
S-off is protection for system turned off so anything written to root is permanent.
Unlocking bootloader is what protects the phone from loading software that isn't official.
Yes you can flash roms etc without s-off. S-off is dangerous but can offer extra methods of recovery should your phone die unexpectedly. It is highly recommended to buy s-off via sunshine app if you plan on rooting.
Rooting has its uses but it has more disadvantages. Some apps won't run, ie banking apps, you can easily cheat games but it makes things boring, you can block adverts but you can get rootless options too.. Swings and roundabouts. Personally I don't root anymore.
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Not the best advice or info.
You don't need s off unless you plan on changing your u11 firmware from one cid to another (Google it). Why spend the $$ unnecessarily?
IF you root with Magisk you can use magisk Manager to hide root from banking and other apps and they'll work just fine.
It's 101...
jhill110 said:
Not the best advice or info.
You don't need s off unless you plan on changing your u11 firmware from one cid to another (Google it). Why spend the $$ unnecessarily?
IF you root with Magisk you can use magisk Manager to hide root from banking and other apps and they'll work just fine.
It's 101...
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My explanation for s-off is valid. S-off has more uses than just changing the cid. Google it. I recommend s-off in all instances where the phone will be rooted. Otherwise you leave it s-on.
As for magisk, it doesn't always work. Google it. It's 101.
S off S on
Personally I've only ever used S off to downgrade stock, never needed to change cid, it makes tasks easier but a lot of the security is missing, it's swings & roundabouts soff
only temporary on the u11
jhill110 said:
Not the best advice or info.
You don't need s off unless you plan on changing your u11 firmware from one cid to another (Google it). Why spend the $$ unnecessarily?
IF you root with Magisk you can use magisk Manager to hide root from banking and other apps and they'll work just fine.
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I rooted an old Motorola phone (Verizon) years ago and I didn't have any problems then. I could flash all these different ROMs and it was cool and interesting to do. Later phones I owned from Verizon didn't let me root so that was that. This year I decided I wanted to get a phone directly from HTC, the U11. I got the version that I could unlock and it didn't have all the bloatware like from the other carriers. I got the phone in April of this year and did the unlock process using the HTC Dev website. All went well and I loaded up a few apps that only worked with an unlocked phone. I installed Magisk and TWRP but I never did install a custom ROM because the phone was working well - fast and long battery life and the apps that required an unlocked phone played well.
Then a couple weeks ago there was a notification on my phone that there was an OTA update. The OTA notification nag screen was constantly coming up and of course I couldn't update while the phone was unlock. Or at least that's what I thought. So I went and used ADB and gave the the command to OEM lock. That was it, my phone got corrupt and long story short my phone is headed back to HTC to be revived.
When I do get the phone back I'll leave it as is, factory stock. I really didn't see the need to flash any new ROMs after I got the phone in April. It is a hard lesson to learn but oh well. It is what it is. If I do decide to unlock again, I will make sure I know what I am doing. Obviously I didn't.
Good luck OP on what you decide.
Tethering Without Root?
I'm moving from an S7 to the U11. I've always rooted my phones in the past, mainly to get tethering and remove bloat. Is there a tether option without rooting the U11? From what I hear there isn't a ton of bloat on the U11, so if I can tether without root, I might just do that.
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I'm moving from an S7 to the U11. I've always rooted my phones in the past, mainly to get tethering and remove bloat. Is there a tether option without rooting the U11? From what I hear there isn't a ton of bloat on the U11, so if I can tether without root, I might just do that.
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https://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-u11/howto/sharing-data-connection-with-usb-tethering.html
Well there isn't much of bloatware on the U11 and that is one of the reasons I wanted that phone. Another reason was that I wanted the latest HTC phone (got my U11 in April before the U12+ came out). I don't care for Samsung and Apple phones and I've just gravitated toward HTC since the HTC Incredible.
I've rooted a couple phones before and they were so easy to do. No issues and it was not so complicated as it is now. I really screwed my U11 (or at least I couldn't figure out the right procedures to get it out of trouble).
I root because I want youtube adaway (Which to be fair does have a no root option) and, more importantly, adaway.
Adaway has no alternative if you aren't rooted, which sucks. I don't care for adgaurds VPN or DNS666. An App like Adaway, I would pay for that on a non-rooted phone to make it happen. Bonus, I also get to install other ROMs Once my phone stops being updated by HTC, which seeing their track record, will be around January of 2019.
KOAO said:
I root because I want youtube adaway (Which to be fair does have a no root option) and, more importantly, adaway.
Adaway has no alternative if you aren't rooted, which sucks. I don't care for adgaurds VPN or DNS666. An App like Adaway, I would pay for that on a non-rooted phone to make it happen. Bonus, I also get to install other ROMs Once my phone stops being updated by HTC, which seeing their track record, will be around January of 2019.
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it can't work on rooted phones because google doesnt want to happen.
Adaway removes the reveneue of big corporations, and thats affect google, thats why google, banking apps, and even pokemon don't like rooting.
you can acess your bank in your windows PC (windows have admin mode)
but you can't in android..
F** logic..
I don't know what people are doing on this site that say we don't need root. It's like atheists on eclesiastical meeting
I often think putting a custom rom in more secure due to the security patches being updated, however obviously you need to mask it for bank apps. So how important are security updates? Banking apps like google pay dont check that condition yet they check the latter.
Hey guys i need your advice.
Tomorrow my Pixel 7 pro arrives and i am living in an unsupported county. I have read a lot of guides about the root etc. i just want to verify that i will be able to use the full features of the device if i rooted....like call screening, 5g etc. and how risky is to be rooted nowdays because last time i root my phone was 10 years ago....if after the mandatory things i don't install any app outside of the store and don't grant access root will my device be safe ? thank you
try hentaios In the latest update it was activated 5g in unsupported countries
m3ath said:
try hentaios In the latest update it was activated 5g in unsupported countries
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HentaiOS for Pixel 7 Pro? Is it on Telegram or another third-party place?
ekin_strops said:
HentaiOS for Pixel 7 Pro? Is it on Telegram or another third-party place?
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yes for 7 pro and 7
They have a channel in Telegram
I am certainly not an expert. I remember the days of flashing roms. I used to sometimes flash multiple roms a day.
Now most of the features I used to use custom roms for are already in Android.
Also if you have a Pixel you have a pretty clean version of Android.
So I don't really see the point. Maybe in your situation because you are using the phone in an unsupported country you might be able to enable some features but I would think the network bands are hardware based and either your carrier is compatible with the Pixel or not?
IMHO I would not root or install custom software on a brand new phone like a Pixel or other flagship. It generally voids your warranty and if you soft brick the device and can't revive it what do you do? Also with root you have huge security vulnerability. Pixel is supposed to be one of the most secure Android phones so why would you get rid of that benefit?
Also updates would be a pain.
If I had a free cheap phone from a carrier with a crappy version of Android that I would risk rooting and maybe installing a custom ROM but I just don't see the need on a Pixel??
robbbzilla said:
IMHO I would not root or install custom software on a brand new phone like a Pixel or other flagship. It generally voids your warranty and if you soft brick the device and can't revive it what do you do? Also with root you have huge security vulnerability. Pixel is supposed to be one of the most secure Android phones so why would you get rid of that benefit?
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1) It doesn't void your warranty on the Pixel.
2) Root isn't a security vulnerability in and of itself but the unlocked bootloader can be if someone gets ahold of your phone. Seeing how the filesystem is encrypted though, it's not so much a risk to your data as it is to the person being able to steal the phone easier.
3) Most other phones have largely been locked down so a lot of us get the Pixel *because* it can be rooted.
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Also updates would be a pain.
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Not too bad. Pixel Flasher makes the whole process easy. Plug into the computer, launch Pixel Flasher, download the update, click the patch image button so it makes a Magisk image, select that image, flash. It's all done with a user friendly GUI. While it's not as straightforward as updating directly on the phone, it also installs faster, so it's a worthwhile trade off.
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1) It doesn't void your warranty on the Pixel.
2) Root isn't a security vulnerability in and of itself but the unlocked bootloader can be if someone gets ahold of your phone. Seeing how the filesystem is encrypted though, it's not so much a risk to your data as it is to the person being able to steal the phone easier.
3) Most other phones have largely been locked down so a lot of us get the Pixel *because* it can be rooted.
Not too bad. Pixel Flasher makes the whole process easy. Plug into the computer, launch Pixel Flasher, download the update, click the patch image button so it makes a Magisk image, select that image, flash. It's all done with a user friendly GUI. While it's not as straightforward as updating directly on the phone, it also installs faster, so it's a worthwhile trade off.
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Good to know. I thought enabling root level privileges would cause system wide insecurity.
As I prefaced my comments I am no expert and it has been a long time since I rooted my phones.
That is why it is good to ask questions and learn about the state of things now.
I didn't know that you could root a Pixel device and not void the warranty. I am used to the Samsung lock down.
Also with Pixel or with previous Nexus device it was always fun to see what new features Google would add in a new update/feature drop so I never felt the need to root a Pixel phone.
However if you like rooting and can do so without much risk then why not? I can see the fun in trying different software and gaining better control over your device.
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Good to know. I thought enabling root level privileges would cause system wide insecurity.
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Seeing how you still have to authorize the use of root and Magisk even has added support for fingerprint verification to do so, it's not much more of a risk than having an unrooted device really.
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Also with Pixel or with previous Nexus device it was always fun to see what new features Google would add in a new update/feature drop so I never felt the need to root a Pixel phone.
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You still get this stuff when you're rooted and even on most custom ROMs for Pixel. The only downside comes from apps that don't want to play nice. As long as I can use Google Pay, which I'm able to do after using the SafetyNet fix mod, I don't mind having to use the web browser for a banking app here and there (and right now there's only one that flat out won't work, Security Service FCU, so I'm not too put out by it).
It's a pain in the ass to enable carrier features like VoLTE, VoNR, etc. Pixel features like call screening require phenotype edits, which are also a pain in the ass.
G_Vasi said:
Hey guys i need your advice.
Tomorrow my Pixel 7 pro arrives and i am living in an unsupported county. I have read a lot of guides about the root etc. i just want to verify that i will be able to use the full features of the device if i rooted....like call screening, 5g etc. and how risky is to be rooted nowdays because last time i root my phone was 10 years ago....if after the mandatory things i don't install any app outside of the store and don't grant access root will my device be safe ? thank you
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One bit of warning/caution, I've seen/found a lot of users on this forum who are in other countries (maybe unsupported) biggest issue would be NFC pay & banking apps not working. I personally have only seen a few select apps stated on this forum that can't be launched due to root detection that SafetyNetFix and Zygisk DenyList/Shamiko wasn't able to successfully hide, but there are some -- I myself have Wallet, Gpay, 4 banking apps, Xfinity apps, working while I've discussed with some other users the same banking app not working for them -- that, no matter how much users tried, they were unable to get it working. Supposedly there are combinations of root hiding methods and modules that have blocked mostly all of the stubborn apps, but then there seems to be some apps that merely just having an unlocked bootloader is enough to restrict their use.
So if this might be your situation where you have certain apps (most likely banking) that you can't really live without and/or use daily/frequently but they are known to not run on a rooted & unlocked bootloader device, that's the only real downside to rooting.
Other than that, I believe obtaining root on our device benefits so much far outweighing the risks. If certain things stop working, usually there are workarounds to get them to work or alternatives. If anything, particularly in your case, I don't believe you can get those features of 5G and call screening and camera sound and VPN and whatever other feature is restricted in an unsupported country without root....
So there are them pros & cons...
Thank you for your answers guys.....I also think that pros are more than cons....as far as I know and from the ways I found here my Bank apps will work normally.....and also I found a tutorial here that say it will enable all the Pixel features in unsupported countries so hopefully it will work...if by any case anyone tried it I would like to hear the feedback especially for google screening.