I’m looking at the galaxy s6 leaks and the phone sounds amazing. Take into account that I still have a droid charge and you see how excited I am to get this phone. Before I plunk down money I have to wait for it to be released. Between now and then, I need a few answers to some questions:
1. Root access – Will it be hard to root Android 5.0? I’m asking because I have all my apps and data backed up with titanium backup and want to be able to restore them to the new phone.
2. Flash – Ever since flash was officially dropped from the android realm, people have been supplying hacked versions that work with 4.X. Will this continue? I’m asking because the site I use to watch out of market football games still uses flash.
3. Keeping unlimited data – I have the unlimited data plan with Verizon and do not want to lose it. I was told by someone to buy the phone at full retail and I’d be able to keep it. I then read online about buying the phone through Best Buy and being able to backdoor keep my UDP. Someone then told me that Verizon could at any time switch me to tiered data if I do the BB backdoor thing. I’ve heard rumors that the phone will cost nearly a grand and I’m not to keen on paying that much, if I don’t have to.
What do y'all think?
Mike
beavermjr said:
I’m looking at the galaxy s6 leaks and the phone sounds amazing. Take into account that I still have a droid charge and you see how excited I am to get this phone. Before I plunk down money I have to wait for it to be released. Between now and then, I need a few answers to some questions:
1. Root access – Will it be hard to root Android 5.0?
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There's root for android 5 but you can never know what Samsung will actually do to the S6, what my head says that it will probably be a way to root but that will trigger Knox....
Enjoy, Good Luck!
Btw I hate Verizon because they don't allow to unlock HTC bootloader.
Newyork! said:
There's root for android 5 but you can never know what Samsung will actually do to the S6, what my head says that it will probably be a way to root but that will trigger Knox....
Enjoy, Good Luck!
Btw I hate Verizon because they don't allow to unlock HTC bootloader.
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What is Knox?
If I'm not initially able to root, how do I back up my apps and data to transfer them to the new phone?
beavermjr said:
What is Knox?
If I'm not initially able to root, how do I back up my apps and data to transfer them to the new phone?
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Knox is a security measure that Samsung has put into their devices, it will also show up that your device was rooted (even if you'll reflash your stock rom)
You can back up your apps with google accounts but unfortunately you will lose your app data (like levels...)
data like pictures etc.. can be saved on a sd card, pc or there's some apps that will do that without root...
-It's almost midnight I might be slow!
So how do I get around Knox saying the phone is rooted. I'm asking because I once had to unroot my current phone to take it in for warranty replacement due to screen burn in. The joys of watching online video on an unlimited data plan
Also how do I transfer app data to my new phone without a program like titanium backup that requires root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
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What is Knox?
If I'm not initially able to root, how do I back up my apps and data to transfer them to the new phone?
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You can use Helium to backup your old phone. It does not require root, and you can backup all your apps and data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
Does knox mean that the phone can't be rooted? I have been using open garden tether with unlimited data plan and want to continue once I get S6.
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Does knox mean that the phone can't be rooted? I have been using open garden tether with unlimited data plan and want to continue once I get S6.
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No, you can root just fine.
In order to root Lollipop you must be able to unlock the bootloader. I don't think any of us know whether the S6 will have an unlockable bootloader or not. It may vary by carrier (here in the U.S.).
Assuming you can root the S6, be sure to make a nandroid backup before restore your apps and app data. The internals of 5.0 are VERY different than earlier versions, and restoring apps and data might (or might not) cause issues. In any case, be prepared to start over.
Reinstalling your apps from the Play Store is probably a safer approach.
hey
Any leakd photo of this phone yet?
How long will it be after the phone comes out till we know if it can be rooted?
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How long will it be after the phone comes out till we know if it can be rooted?
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How long will it be after you're born until you can learn xda etiquette and not to ask unknowable questions?
(unless you're a vocational philosopher in which case I retract any snark in the above q)
You can root a phone without tripping knox, you just cant install a Custom recovery
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How long will it be after the phone comes out till we know if it can be rooted?
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That's all only related with one thing - exploits. So, it all depends on how many and how good(bad) of exploits on S6 firmware. No one could tell you now because the product doesn't exist yet. Since the security on Android become stronger, you can imagine that the time required to root the phone without tap knox will just take a longer time(Sony Z3/Z3c took them almost 4 months last time to root without void warranty) and it also depends by the sales of S6 and the community size on XDA, famous phone will get support first because of more developers.
You can use Dolphin broswer, it runs with owned ver of flash player, it built-in flash support so you don't need flash installed on system level.
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Hello all,
new user...this place rocks...and so do you all..etc etc
I was just wondering how they (USCC) know if I root my phone or not?
It's almost like they beg us to void the warranty by not giving any updates or accurate release info....could that be apart of the big plan? Lure us into this excellent online community...(which quite possibly could be an average idiots downfall)?
Couldn't I just load up the stock everything, and they would never know?
cheers
shakeyourmatt said:
Hello all,
new user...this place rocks...and so do you all..etc etc
I was just wondering how they (USCC) know if I root my phone or not?
It's almost like they beg us to void the warranty by not giving any updates or accurate release info....could that be apart of the big plan? Lure us into this excellent online community...(which quite possibly could be an average idiots downfall)?
Couldn't I just load up the stock everything, and they would never know?
cheers
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Depending on what you do they can't. If you have Froyo then obviously you have loaded unofficial software and they could see that. Otherwise I am not sure what you mean by load up on stock everything. If you did that on Eclair then I am not sure why you would want to root to begin with.
all you have to do, no matter what you flash to, is use Odin and you can go back to stock 2.1. even if you where using the fryoy leak with custom boot animations and all kinds of other mods...as long as you can boot in download mode you can go backto the way this phone was right out of the box
As of now this is only possible for mesmerize users, showcase has no 2.1 odin.
Swyped from my Mesmerize
Actually, I doubt USCC even checks. When you take your phone if for warranty, they just send it to the manufacturer and if the manufacturer (samsung) says that it's not warranty worthy then it isn't. At least that's how it worked for my TouchPro.. But all root does is add some files to the system. If you remove those two files it's like your phone was never rooted.
If you only rooted & it's stock firmware, hit the menu key while you're on the home screen then hit settings>factory data reset (THIS DOES NOT TOUCH DATA ON YOUR SD CARD). No way for them to know then. Make sure you have all your data backed up onto your SD card before doing this.
I've actually taken my phone in to the USCC shop a couple of times, the store manager thinks mine is so much better than his because of the theme and density and stuff. He asked me how it was so fast and I told him it was a secret
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they CAN see if you are rooted and you can take that to the bank. but because of a certain thing called the Bill of Rights they can not do anything with the information.
ya know when you download apps and it warns you about how it can collect data?
well every single carrier in the world CAN see EXACTLY what you have on your phone with regards to Firmware and Kernel.... that is a 100% guarentee. i know for a fact they can.
it is the EXACT same way that the network knows if your phone needs an update.
it pings your phone and requests firmware information. if its old it tells you there is an update, if not, it doesnt.
on my old EVO if you were running a non stock firmware, or even one that was modified you would not be told of updates because the network knows your not on a stock rom. the phone sends the servers information it doesnt recognize in regards to what you are running, or it sends info that the servers have listed as not eligible for upgrades and it denies you the upgrade.
now, JUST rooting, thats a little different. it needs more info than just "what firmware do you have Mr. Phone?"
but i can guarentee you that the phone IS sending data to the carriers about what it is running.
Hello friends,
I'm in the same boat as many of you -- I purchased several Note 5's new from Verizon and then learned that they are not readily rootable....which prevents me from using their full functionality. Irritating.
I have a decent amount of experience with software development/reverse engineering/breaking things/making things work...but I've never messed around with phone firmware before. Usually I connect directly to the hardware chips via JTAG or similar to dump/upload the modified images. I don't really want to crack these sealed phones open though... surely there must be a way to dump/image the phone via the data port? I've read that Note 5 for other carriers are rootable, so how does dumping/uploading bins work for them? What is different about Verizon's model? Are they requiring digitally signed bins? Also I've seen a few people mention Knox....if Knox is tripped does it blow a fuse or can it be reset?
Thx
A
Samsung Knox gets tripped and effectively bricks the device the second it detects root. It blows a fuse. Dead phone.
If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def dont miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i ve stuck with verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, havent had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who dont want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldnt hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
DaRkL3AD3R said:
Samsung Knox gets tripped and effectively bricks the device the second it detects root. It blows a fuse. Dead phone.
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Nah it doesn't brick the phone! That's just to scare the crap out of people and make them not even want to risk it period!
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ars0n said:
If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def dont miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i ve stuck with verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, havent had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who dont want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldnt hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
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Lol.. I was gonna say hmm, what should one do... HmMmm ... How about read around the the Verizon thread?! Because all those questions have already been answered!
ars0n said:
If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of Verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def don't miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i've stuck with Verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, haven't had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who don't want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldn't hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
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I understand and agree about the flashing and dealing with the bugs on new roms. All I want is the ability to delete apps I don't want. I know debloaters are out there and they work and that's great and thanks to their developers. I think we are owned the freedom to delete what we don't want. It's like the cable companies sticking us with shows we never want or watch.
pbman1953 said:
I understand and agree about the flashing and dealing with the bugs on new roms. All I want is the ability to delete apps I don't want. I know debloaters are out there and they work and that's great and thanks to their developers. I think we are owned the freedom to delete what we don't want. It's like the cable companies sticking us with shows we never want or watch.
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I used to feel that way. I used to root every phone I got (if I could) just so I could use Titanium backup to first disable apps and then if I had no problems, uninstall them. Bu with my Note 5 I've concluded it would be a waste of time, even if I could do it. I use Package Disabler Pro (as do many on this forum) and no, it doesn't actually delete apps. They are still there taking up space. but they don't run and unless you are critically short of space, the actual space they consume is minimal. My only complaint against Pakcage Disabler is that I wish it worked on my Asus tablet. but alas, it only woks on Samsung devices.
ratman6161 said:
I used to feel that way. I used to root every phone I got (if I could) just so I could use Titanium backup to first disable apps and then if I had no problems, uninstall them. Bu with my Note 5 I've concluded it would be a waste of time, even if I could do it. I use Package Disabler Pro (as do many on this forum) and no, it doesn't actually delete apps. They are still there taking up space. but they don't run and unless you are critically short of space, the actual space they consume is minimal. My only complaint against Pakcage Disabler is that I wish it worked on my Asus tablet. but alas, it only woks on Samsung devices.
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Has anyone compared Package Disabler to Debloater?
Yeah, Package Disabler is the way to go (IMO). You don't need a computer as with Debloater. Don't get me wrong, Debloater is great, but it's nice being able to disable apps on the go. Not to mention, Package Disabler allows you to export your lists of disabled apps to an XML file, so you can simply import the list back if you need to (say, after a factory reset). Just my thoughts.
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So I guess both are good. I wish there am was a place or apply tell you if you needed certain apps or not.
pbman1953 said:
So I guess both are good. I wish there am was a place or apply tell you if you needed certain apps or not.
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Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
[email protected] said:
Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
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It's not rooted yet. There is something in the works, but nothing yet. We haven't given up yet.
[email protected] said:
Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
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no root buddy if ure on mm mm requires bootloader unlock to root and between att and verizon they have the tightest locked bootloader of them all
i got rid of my note 5 but it was the first device that wasnt make or break over root like other posters said get s package disabler and ure good
TheMadScientist420 said:
no root buddy if ure on mm mm requires bootloader unlock to root and between att and verizon they have the tightest locked bootloader of them all
i got rid of my note 5 but it was the first device that wasnt make or break over root like other posters said get s package disabler and ure good
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What's a package disabler
[email protected] said:
What's a package disabler
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it disables all the bloatware on ure note 5 even without root saves loads of battery and speeds up the device in my opinion
this one works by being a device administrator and it lets u disable tons more stuff than in the standard application manager on the device
TheMadScientist420 said:
it disables all the bloatware on ure note 5 even without root saves loads of battery and speeds up the device in my opinion
this one works by being a device administrator and it lets u disable tons more stuff than in the standard application manager on the device
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Could you point me in the right direction to get it, and will that allow me to root the phone
[email protected] said:
Could you point me in the right direction to get it, and will that allow me to root the phone
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there is no root for the verizon version yet things always change if ure looking to root find another device.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...m6g1sybczeFvN8Nq0-ekxg&bvm=bv.144224172,d.eWE
this is where ive always gotten is from
TheMadScientist420 said:
there is no root for the verizon version yet things always change if ure looking to root find another device.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...m6g1sybczeFvN8Nq0-ekxg&bvm=bv.144224172,d.eWE
this is where ive always gotten is from
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Thank you ill try it out
I soft bricked my Note 5 and then had problems flashing with ODIN. After I was able to flash though, the screen briefly showed an unlocked padlock. Is that typical? Is the bootloader rendered insecure when you upgrade for a brief window?
Hi all i own a Tab s 8.4 LTE for a good year or so i did not trip Knox due to warranty and stuff.. But a month or so ago i found out about Viper4Audio so me flashing Twrp to install viper4audio tripped knox, yeah i know i could have not tripped knox.. if i installed viper4audio apk but the dam thing wouldnt work until i flashed it. Anyway once i heard viper audio wow im blown away now when ever i listen to the S8+ the audio does not sound as good as the tab s. So im wondering is it worth rooting ? the ones who have rooted do you regret rooting ? or shall i wait will root ever come for the S8+ EXYNOS With out tripping knox or am i dreaming for that ?
There will never be a way to root without tripping Knox I'm afraid.
You just have to decide if it's worth it for YOU.
You will lose warranty. You will lose things like Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, other banking apps, though sometimes this can be worked around.
I owned the S7E before owning the S8+, and it was the first time I have ever owned a phone that I didn't root it. It's a hard choice, but warranty is more important for me, along with Samsung Pay, Samsung health etc.
Just root. Life is bet with root.
Sent from my S7 Edge+Rooted+Xposed
I chose to not root my S7 edge, and the only thing that bothers me is video ads on youtube. otherwise I can live just fine without it. Custom roms tend to be too unstable for me, anyway. I won't root my S8+, assuming it ever comes out for the SD variant (bought it for dolphin, and I got it from Samsung for $524).
No. Not until we find a way to not trip knox.
I don't recommend you to root your phone you will loose Samsung pay feature for good plus your warranty. I can tell you yes it's a bit boring without having the ability to modify your phone but you can live without it. I think the stock rom is quite good and satisfies my needs . So again don't do it
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No root for me. Root is history for me since two years ago.
Don't see the needs of it already. Maybe they is still one or two nice apps that need root. For the sack of that one or two apps really not worth to root and trip Knox.
I root for years any single device I have but yesterday I bought also a S8+ and I think this will be the first time not to root. So no root - vote from me
Same rooted my s7 edge just to play and get more out of it. I will leave my new s8+ Alone. Battery is great would love the customizations with root but its good enough as it is. Only thing i really miss is viperaudio. Anyone know of a way this can be installed without tripping knox??
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
e753 said:
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
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First phone since the T-Mobile G1 I haven't rooted and I've had 12 smartphones since. There's nothing as good as Adblock but I'm not rooting the S8+ and am using Blokada from XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...da-fire-forget-root-ad-blocker-t3503374/page2
I'm joining the growing choir of new S8 Plus users who have decided to leave rooting behind them. It was fun and extremely useful for me up until this S8 Plus. My Note 5 will be the last device I root. It's just not worth the hassle any longer. Lately rooting has become too much of a chore on this platform for me, personally. I've kept Samsung as my daily driver for years because one of the reasons was that traditionally it was much easier to root compared to other devices. This was especially true when I was with Sprint as they never locked down their phones like Verizon and AT&T did.
At this moment, as far as rooting is concerned, I have the same feeling I did when I finally said, "Enough!" when I was jailbreaking my iPhones. Eventually I grew tired of the cat and mouse game between devs and the OEM. This feels the same and I think it's time to say goodbye to rooting flagships for me.
Now I feel that the combined hardware and software development on this phone has matured enough that I'm okay rolling clean and stock from now on.
ggrant3876 said:
First phone since the T-Mobile G1 I haven't rooted and I've had 12 smartphones since. There's nothing as good as Adblock but I'm not rooting the S8+ and am using Blokada from XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...da-fire-forget-root-ad-blocker-t3503374/page2
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Hey does blokada block YouTube ads ? YouTube ads are so annoying ?
100% definitely do NOT ROOT.
Matt
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Hey does blokada block YouTube ads ? YouTube ads are so annoying ?
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I have youtube red, no ads anyway, so I'm not sure.
I have been rooting since the beginning of Android, every phone I've had. I stopped using Samsung in 2013 and went to LG, then to Google (Nexus 6P, then Pixel XL), and now back to Samsung. I was honestly a little disappointed with the Pixel and how difficult it was to flash because of the dual partitions. I am in the US, and the US S8 was a no go, as I don't appreciate a phone that I buy outright being locked down. I ended up getting the SM-G955F, and rooted it the first day I had it. It was so simple, and so worth it. I feel like its 2013 again with how easy this thing is to modify. I have Viper installed, and customized to my liking, and my ROM is bloat free.
I have a Canadian S8 Plus and I've rooted all my Androids since the first Motorola. Like others I don't think at this moment rooting would bring me anything really exciting. I've installed Adhell 2 and got rid of the ads and backed up everything with the pc smart switch. I'm missing the volume warning disable mod because I found it annoying but even that one is not that bad if I don't restart the phone. Starting with S6 the best ROMs were always stock based and that became more and more evident lately so until something really new is coming up I'm going to stay unrooted. I'm with Bell and there are only 2 apps which I would not want them so basically no bloat. My 2c.
e753 said:
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
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You can get rid of ads with AdGuard.
I am hesitating to root also.
I used Titanium backup until now and if someone has an alternative I would be glad to hear it too.
Did you try Helium? The paid version has many features but it will only backup some apps vs Titanium. Because of missing root it will not be able to backup apps that have "backup disallowed" enabled.
EMJI79 said:
You can get rid of ads with AdGuard.
I am hesitating to root also.
I used Titanium backup until now and if someone has an alternative I would be glad to hear it too.
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But idf you root arent there supposed to be issue with it when it comes to the bootloader?
Hey,
I've been a little out of the rooting/unlocking game since it was a while since I unlocked and rooted my last phone (OP 6).
What's the easiest way to unlock bootloader and root without loosing data - or what's the best way to backup and restore all data.
Thanks!
burnoutslo said:
Hey,
I've been a little out of the rooting/unlocking game since it was a while since I unlocked and rooted my last phone (OP 6).
What's the easiest way to unlock bootloader and root without loosing data - or what's the best way to backup and restore all data.
Thanks!
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There isn't. You lose it.
@FullOfHell is right. There is no way to unlock the bootloader without losing you're data. I would recommend to do a backup using the OnePlus switch app.
KingCartman said:
@FullOfHell is right. There is no way to unlock the bootloader without losing you're data. I would recommend to do a backup using the OnePlus switch app.
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Thanks. Any chance to guide me to a thread that has the easiest way to unlock&root?
Unlock Bootloader: Enable Developer settings by tapping multiple times on the Build Number.
Rooting: There is a guide in this forum.
No offense...but the OP sounds like a rookie at rooting a phone! That being said, why do you want, or think you need, to root your phone? I did it a few times back when dinosaurs ruled the earth but for the vast majority of people it is unnecessary. Most of these new phones have everything you could possibly need built in, and anything you may want can be installed with a 3rd party app. So if you are a rookie at rooting, then be warned that you can turn your $$$$$$ phone into a worthless paperweight! YMMV
Do a Google backup before you unlock. Restoring that cloud backup during first boot after unlock should be pretty close to where you left off.
jaseman said:
No offense...but the OP sounds like a rookie at rooting a phone! That being said, why do you want, or think you need, to root your phone? I did it a few times back when dinosaurs ruled the earth but for the vast majority of people it is unnecessary. Most of these new phones have everything you could possibly need built in, and anything you may want can be installed with a 3rd party app. So if you are a rookie at rooting, then be warned that you can turn your $$$$$$ phone into a worthless paperweight! YMMV
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I need root to use AdAway ad blocker I was constantly flashing custom ROMs when I had a Nexus 4, Galaxy S2, etc. But new phones, new android versions require new procedures, and that's why I better ask you guys.
burnoutslo said:
I need root to use AdAway ad blocker I was constantly flashing custom ROMs when I had a Nexus 4, Galaxy S2, etc. But new phones, new android versions require new procedures, and that's why I better ask you guys.
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You don't really need root for ad blocking. Just go to settings, "WiFi & Network", then "Private DNS". Select "Private DNS provider hostname" and type in "dns.adguard.com" and click save. Voila, ads are blocked.
This won't block ads in YouTube (I have a paid subscription so I already don't see them), but I see lots of users posting about using and liking YouTube Vanced for that reason.
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Hi I've been rooting phones for over 10 years now but the past couple of devices I haven't due to it tripping knox etc but I miss a few things with root and looking for peoples opinions
I love having adaway and been able to fully uninstall apps I don't use
Is there much of an improvement on battery life as I have the exynos version :crying:
Also an app i haven't had chance to use is viper4android is it as good as people say and does it actually boot volume on bluetooth audio without distorting etc as that would be my main use for it
Also what exactly does tripping know destroy? I've read it affects Samsung pay and Samsung pass is there anything else
And has anyone had problems selling there device afterwards from tripping know (mainly in the uk) as I change devices quite a bit and sell them on lol
Thanks
You can use adguard if you don't want to root. I haven't bothered rooting anything for a few years now. It doesn't deliver any additional must have features i can't live without, unlike it used to.
Same boat, rooting for decades. Yet it seems a bit too immature this time on this device.
Also got the exynos junk (Iknew before getting it, but free phone from work).
I decided to go without for now.
Same here - decided to go on without root. The features I miss are - firewall (need to try knox firewall though), direct time sync (minor), some console commands to manage files, titanium backup - this is a major issue, so I can't backup OTP apps etc.
Don't root your device since that requires you unlocking bootloader to root and doing that triggers knock safety thing so it destroys knox permanently and then apps such as Samsung pay, samsung pass, secret folder, encryption and few more that requires knox to work will be unavailable, since knox chip is no longer functioning. Also warranty would be voided if you got 2 years warranty.
So if you plan to use samsung pay or any of other apps later on then avoid rooting and touching bootloader.
Jake.S said:
Don't root your device since that requires you unlocking bootloader to root and doing that triggers knock safety thing so it destroys knox permanently and then apps such as Samsung pay, samsung pass, secret folder, encryption and few more that requires knox to work will be unavailable, since knox chip is no longer functioning. Also warranty would be voided if you got 2 years warranty.
So if you plan to use samsung pay or any of other apps later on then avoid rooting and touching bootloader.
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i dont know about usa and other countries, but in europe ur warranty won't be void if knox is tripped (afaik)
Still can't do without root unless there a way to block ads while using a vpn of my choice and control a firewall. Have my Note two days now after waiting 3 weeks for it to ship from Hong Kong and first thing I did was to root.
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i dont know about usa and other countries, but in europe ur warranty won't be void if knox is tripped (afaik)
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Well actually to get it tripped requires bootloader unlock for root and that would void your warranty in Europe. So id knox says 0x0 it also voids warranty
Only those that care about Samsung's proprietary Knox and it's associated bloat should worry about knox being tripped. Only thing I'd probably care about is 3rd party banking apps that might not work with patch hide. If that still works or not unsure.
rooting my n9860 asap. finally just got the oem option to show up. last phone i had was a note 8 not unlockable...and had to keep it for too long, wanting root the entire time. so i'm not missing the chance to do it now. why? to try custom rom, get all bloats/google/samsung apps off the phone and stop looking at system settings that i cannot change(top reason), learn about android / do some dev on it, test root apps made by community(2nd best reason), get a recovery installed, nethunter, call recording, toolbox, run my fav firewall. probably more reasons that im not thinking about right now
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rooting my n9860 asap. finally just got the oem option to show up. last phone i had was a note 8 not unlockable...and had to keep it for too long, wanting root the entire time. so i'm not missing the chance to do it now. why? to try custom rom, get all bloats/google/samsung apps off the phone and stop looking at system settings that i cannot change(top reason), learn about android / do some dev on it, test root apps made by community(2nd best reason), get a recovery installed, nethunter, call recording, toolbox, run my fav firewall. probably more reasons that im not thinking about right now
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im considering rooting my N9810, but im wondering if I will still receive OTA updates then? or do i have to manually flash the update with each ota?
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im considering rooting my N9810, but im wondering if I will still receive OTA updates then? or do i have to manually flash the update with each ota?
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You wont get OTA after rooting, since rooting requires you to unlock bootloader so then OTA won't work. Also KNOX won't function permanently once this is done too.
So think if you going to use samsung apps like samsung pay and such then avoid touching bootloader and rooting.
mgagnequebec said:
rooting my n9860 asap. finally just got the oem option to show up. last phone i had was a note 8 not unlockable...and had to keep it for too long, wanting root the entire time. so i'm not missing the chance to do it now. why? to try custom rom, get all bloats/google/samsung apps off the phone and stop looking at system settings that i cannot change(top reason), learn about android / do some dev on it, test root apps made by community(2nd best reason), get a recovery installed, nethunter, call recording, toolbox, run my fav firewall. probably more reasons that im not thinking about right now
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Is one of them being able to tether (hot spot) without the carrier detecting it
cenwesi said:
Is one of them being able to tether (hot spot) without the carrier detecting it
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I doubt it but I never tried it before tbh. I guess i should say that i might not be a good example to follow when it comes to updates. i almost never do them. because it always was a compromise one have to make if wanting to root. at least from my experience. like, keep your firmware version low or you loose the ability to root. but gain security patches. i chose my side of the fence long ago hehe