Hey,
I've been a little out of the rooting/unlocking game since it was a while since I unlocked and rooted my last phone (OP 6).
What's the easiest way to unlock bootloader and root without loosing data - or what's the best way to backup and restore all data.
Thanks!
burnoutslo said:
Hey,
I've been a little out of the rooting/unlocking game since it was a while since I unlocked and rooted my last phone (OP 6).
What's the easiest way to unlock bootloader and root without loosing data - or what's the best way to backup and restore all data.
Thanks!
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There isn't. You lose it.
@FullOfHell is right. There is no way to unlock the bootloader without losing you're data. I would recommend to do a backup using the OnePlus switch app.
KingCartman said:
@FullOfHell is right. There is no way to unlock the bootloader without losing you're data. I would recommend to do a backup using the OnePlus switch app.
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Thanks. Any chance to guide me to a thread that has the easiest way to unlock&root?
Unlock Bootloader: Enable Developer settings by tapping multiple times on the Build Number.
Rooting: There is a guide in this forum.
No offense...but the OP sounds like a rookie at rooting a phone! That being said, why do you want, or think you need, to root your phone? I did it a few times back when dinosaurs ruled the earth but for the vast majority of people it is unnecessary. Most of these new phones have everything you could possibly need built in, and anything you may want can be installed with a 3rd party app. So if you are a rookie at rooting, then be warned that you can turn your $$$$$$ phone into a worthless paperweight! YMMV
Do a Google backup before you unlock. Restoring that cloud backup during first boot after unlock should be pretty close to where you left off.
jaseman said:
No offense...but the OP sounds like a rookie at rooting a phone! That being said, why do you want, or think you need, to root your phone? I did it a few times back when dinosaurs ruled the earth but for the vast majority of people it is unnecessary. Most of these new phones have everything you could possibly need built in, and anything you may want can be installed with a 3rd party app. So if you are a rookie at rooting, then be warned that you can turn your $$$$$$ phone into a worthless paperweight! YMMV
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I need root to use AdAway ad blocker I was constantly flashing custom ROMs when I had a Nexus 4, Galaxy S2, etc. But new phones, new android versions require new procedures, and that's why I better ask you guys.
burnoutslo said:
I need root to use AdAway ad blocker I was constantly flashing custom ROMs when I had a Nexus 4, Galaxy S2, etc. But new phones, new android versions require new procedures, and that's why I better ask you guys.
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You don't really need root for ad blocking. Just go to settings, "WiFi & Network", then "Private DNS". Select "Private DNS provider hostname" and type in "dns.adguard.com" and click save. Voila, ads are blocked.
This won't block ads in YouTube (I have a paid subscription so I already don't see them), but I see lots of users posting about using and liking YouTube Vanced for that reason.
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Hi, the Nexus 5 is going to be my first phone(I finally have enough money to afford it and the plan. Thank you Google and T-mobile :'D ) and android device, so I want to be very careful with it. I was wondering if rooting the phone can cause it to lose performance or any other cons like that. My jailbroken ipod touch 4g is extremely slow right now, but it's also a ancient device. I know there's a small chance of bricking the phone if I make a mistake, but i've jailbroken my ipod touch and modded a few things, so I feel comfortable with that. And my nexus 5 comes in on monday, but my sim doesn't come in til wednesday. Should I root it as soon as I get it?
Check this out
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/
Kind of a old article but it explains it all. Most of us if not all of us root our devices . I don't feel its necessary I just like tweaking my devices . I'd say just run stock if then you get to a point where you feel the need to root then do so
This also should have been in the q&a section
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Number one reason to root your phone: Ad-blocking hosts file!
depending on what apps you run, you might not even need root. on my current phone, the only reason i have root is for adblock apps like adaway or greenify to improve battery life. otherwise i don't feel like there is a need to root it in a hurry.
Thanks guys. That link was really helpful. I think i'll root it once I get it, but if I do decide to wait to root, will it delete all my data?
I haven't rooted my work Galaxy S4, or my 2013 Nexus 7 and I honestly don't feel any reason I need to now.
Android has gotten to the point that things really run well and I don't find much customizing I need to do. I need something stable and that just works.
I've rooted all the other phones before Evo, Evo 3d, Evo LTE, Galaxy Note 2.
I don't believe in the ad blocking apps since these are usually on apps I like that developers give for free and I feel they need to make their money.
My only hurdle was moving my Google Authenticator app data to a new phone, but once I found out how to pull the keys off of one of my rooted phones it was easy to input them on my non rooted phones.
The rooting process, as I understand it, installs the su binary (Linux) and the su apk (Android app). That's it!
Gregthorntree0 said:
Thanks guys. That link was really helpful. I think i'll root it once I get it, but if I do decide to wait to root, will it delete all my data?
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Rooting won't wipe your data, unlocking your boot loader will. You should unlock that first if you're even considering modding your phone in the future.
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lwfb said:
Rooting won't wipe your data, unlocking your boot loader will. You should unlock that first if you're even considering modding your phone in the future.
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Thanks for reminding me about unlocking of Nexus devices. I don't plan on rooting the Nexus 5 when it arrives but I'll definitely unlock it in case I want to root it.
Few questions on this
(1) Will rooting stop/delay the automatic android update from google?
(2) After unlocking a bootloader is it possible to lock it back? In another sense, is it obvious that the phone's bootloader is unlocked? I rmb unlocking the bootloader of my motorola razr and the start screen comes with a "This phone's bootloader has been unlocked" sign.
(3) Will rooting and/or unlocking the bootloader void the warranty?
AFAIK 1 - no. 2 - yes, it is obvious, but you can lock it again. 3 - yes.
Mind you, I don't have a N5 (currently N4) yet and it depends on the phone.
Hi everyone, I hate to ask this question since I've been rooting and flashing ROM's for a good 3 years now.
I recently accepted a promotion at my work and I am now being given access to my work's email (through the app called "Good"). My fear is that my security is extremely important where I work because my employer is a financial institution. My question is if running anything other than stock presents any kind security risk whatsoever. I love running custom ROM's, but it's not worth losing my job.
Thanks and sorry if this is the dumbest question you've ever read.
mjs2011 said:
Hi everyone, I hate to ask this question since I've been rooting and flashing ROM's for a good 3 years now.
I recently accepted a promotion at my work and I am now being given access to my work's email (through the app called "Good"). My fear is that my security is extremely important where I work because my employer is a financial institution. My question is if running anything other than stock presents any kind security risk whatsoever. I love running customer ROM's, but it's not worth losing my job.
Thanks and sorry if this is the dumbest question you've ever read.
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"Good for Enterprise" won't run on a rooted phone..
there are ways to bypass the root detection (google xda+good+hide+root, but if the app updates, you might have to re-hide it
with a rooted nexus 5... you could buy a really cheap used phone (with wifi), don't root it, install good and tether via your nexus 5... but you'll have to carry around two phones
if you're worried about security, stock rom, no root, stock everything, locked bootloader.
By rooting your phone as you may or may not already know, you are bypassing certain security measures in order to make manufacturer level changes such as installing roms. I personally believe because of that, your rooted phone will never be as secure as a non-rooted one. If i were you i would go back to stock and use androids built in security features (data encryption, password/pin) because no matter what app you use to protect yourself, because you are rooted there will always be a risk
Hope this helps
Great thanks for the responses. Yeah, I was a little worried about that. As much as I love rooting/custom ROM's, my job means 10x more. I'll go back to stock unrooted and locked bootloader.
Thanks again!
My opinion as a corporate email administrator and IT security and compliance policy writer.... (edit - and experienced android rooter)
Although I would always ensure my policy dictates rooted phones are not used, the risk doesn't lay within root itself. Nothing can get root without your say so and applications are sandboxed meaning they cannot Install themselves without user intervention.
So long as you follow simple rules, you should be fine
1) Use reputable custom roms. Stay away from betas, tests and leaks
2) only install reputable applications from reputable sources. Stick to play and xda. Don't be an early adopter.
3) use a secure kernel. Do not opt for insecure ones (Insecure adb)
4) keep the device password protected at all times.
5) ensure the strictest settings in the supersu app. Monitor it regularly
6) use flashify to flash stock recovery and bootunlocker to lock your bootloader - your everyday state MUST be stock recovery and locked bootloader. Unlock bootloader and flash recovery to flash roms and kernels but ensure you flash stock recovery and re lock
7) exercise common sense
Although that said:
1) if your company IT /AUP policy dictates no root, you'd better comply. I've worked in similar places where they have blanked out camera plates on blackberrys and check your messages
2) if the app doesn't work with root anyway..
Personally, if you really want corporate email on your phone AND freedom, get a second phone
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rootSU said:
My opinion as a corporate email administrator and IT security and compliance policy writer.... (edit - and experienced android rooter)
Although I would always ensure my policy dictates rooted phones are not used, the risk doesn't lay within root itself. Nothing can get root without your say so and applications are sandboxed meaning they cannot Install themselves without user intervention.
So long as you follow simple rules, you should be fine
1) Use reputable custom roms. Stay away from betas, tests and leaks
2) only install reputable applications from reputable sources. Stick to play and xda. Don't be an early adopter.
3) use a secure kernel. Do not opt for insecure ones (Insecure adb)
4) keep the device password protected at all times.
5) ensure the strictest settings in the supersu app. Monitor it regularly
6) use flashify to flash stock recovery and bootunlocker to lock your bootloader - your everyday state MUST be stock recovery and locked bootloader. Unlock bootloader and flash recovery to flash roms and kernels but ensure you flash stock recovery and re lock
7) exercise common sense
Although that said:
1) if your company IT /AUP policy dictates no root, you'd better comply. I've worked in similar places where they have blanked out camera plates on blackberrys and check your messages
2) if the app doesn't work with root anyway..
Personally, if you really want corporate email on your phone AND freedom, get a second phone
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Thanks! Yeah, I think the key here is that our policy does state that the phone being used can't be modified, so it's better that I just follow the rules.
Plus, stock Android has improved so much over the years that this is a much easier decision than it would have been back in the day when I had my LG Optimus running Froyo.
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our policy does state that the phone being used can't be modified,
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Then its best not to. Financial companies take this sort of thing very seriously and can often see breach as gross misconduct
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Thankfully a lot of the stock ROM is pretty good out of the box and just needs a few minor tweaks.
I’m looking at the galaxy s6 leaks and the phone sounds amazing. Take into account that I still have a droid charge and you see how excited I am to get this phone. Before I plunk down money I have to wait for it to be released. Between now and then, I need a few answers to some questions:
1. Root access – Will it be hard to root Android 5.0? I’m asking because I have all my apps and data backed up with titanium backup and want to be able to restore them to the new phone.
2. Flash – Ever since flash was officially dropped from the android realm, people have been supplying hacked versions that work with 4.X. Will this continue? I’m asking because the site I use to watch out of market football games still uses flash.
3. Keeping unlimited data – I have the unlimited data plan with Verizon and do not want to lose it. I was told by someone to buy the phone at full retail and I’d be able to keep it. I then read online about buying the phone through Best Buy and being able to backdoor keep my UDP. Someone then told me that Verizon could at any time switch me to tiered data if I do the BB backdoor thing. I’ve heard rumors that the phone will cost nearly a grand and I’m not to keen on paying that much, if I don’t have to.
What do y'all think?
Mike
beavermjr said:
I’m looking at the galaxy s6 leaks and the phone sounds amazing. Take into account that I still have a droid charge and you see how excited I am to get this phone. Before I plunk down money I have to wait for it to be released. Between now and then, I need a few answers to some questions:
1. Root access – Will it be hard to root Android 5.0?
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There's root for android 5 but you can never know what Samsung will actually do to the S6, what my head says that it will probably be a way to root but that will trigger Knox....
Enjoy, Good Luck!
Btw I hate Verizon because they don't allow to unlock HTC bootloader.
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There's root for android 5 but you can never know what Samsung will actually do to the S6, what my head says that it will probably be a way to root but that will trigger Knox....
Enjoy, Good Luck!
Btw I hate Verizon because they don't allow to unlock HTC bootloader.
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What is Knox?
If I'm not initially able to root, how do I back up my apps and data to transfer them to the new phone?
beavermjr said:
What is Knox?
If I'm not initially able to root, how do I back up my apps and data to transfer them to the new phone?
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Knox is a security measure that Samsung has put into their devices, it will also show up that your device was rooted (even if you'll reflash your stock rom)
You can back up your apps with google accounts but unfortunately you will lose your app data (like levels...)
data like pictures etc.. can be saved on a sd card, pc or there's some apps that will do that without root...
-It's almost midnight I might be slow!
So how do I get around Knox saying the phone is rooted. I'm asking because I once had to unroot my current phone to take it in for warranty replacement due to screen burn in. The joys of watching online video on an unlimited data plan
Also how do I transfer app data to my new phone without a program like titanium backup that requires root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
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What is Knox?
If I'm not initially able to root, how do I back up my apps and data to transfer them to the new phone?
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You can use Helium to backup your old phone. It does not require root, and you can backup all your apps and data.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
Does knox mean that the phone can't be rooted? I have been using open garden tether with unlimited data plan and want to continue once I get S6.
beavermjr said:
Does knox mean that the phone can't be rooted? I have been using open garden tether with unlimited data plan and want to continue once I get S6.
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No, you can root just fine.
In order to root Lollipop you must be able to unlock the bootloader. I don't think any of us know whether the S6 will have an unlockable bootloader or not. It may vary by carrier (here in the U.S.).
Assuming you can root the S6, be sure to make a nandroid backup before restore your apps and app data. The internals of 5.0 are VERY different than earlier versions, and restoring apps and data might (or might not) cause issues. In any case, be prepared to start over.
Reinstalling your apps from the Play Store is probably a safer approach.
hey
Any leakd photo of this phone yet?
How long will it be after the phone comes out till we know if it can be rooted?
beavermjr said:
How long will it be after the phone comes out till we know if it can be rooted?
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How long will it be after you're born until you can learn xda etiquette and not to ask unknowable questions?
(unless you're a vocational philosopher in which case I retract any snark in the above q)
You can root a phone without tripping knox, you just cant install a Custom recovery
beavermjr said:
How long will it be after the phone comes out till we know if it can be rooted?
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That's all only related with one thing - exploits. So, it all depends on how many and how good(bad) of exploits on S6 firmware. No one could tell you now because the product doesn't exist yet. Since the security on Android become stronger, you can imagine that the time required to root the phone without tap knox will just take a longer time(Sony Z3/Z3c took them almost 4 months last time to root without void warranty) and it also depends by the sales of S6 and the community size on XDA, famous phone will get support first because of more developers.
You can use Dolphin broswer, it runs with owned ver of flash player, it built-in flash support so you don't need flash installed on system level.
Hi there,
I have been rooting all previous samsung and pixel phone but i dont know if rooting or unlocking bootlaoder is needed for HTC U11.. I mean software is fast and fluid, battery is exceptional (7 hour screen on time), not much bloatware out there, sound is alo great unless we have some sound mods out there who improve it further
so is there any advantage of rooting and going after custom ROMs/Mods ?
secondly i am using HTC phone after long time so this S On/OFF is confusing. If we have unlock bootloader and root/Twrp then can we flash all custom ROMs ? or we must need to do S-OFF in order to flash some custom ROMs ?
Thanks
S-off is protection for system turned off so anything written to root is permanent.
Unlocking bootloader is what protects the phone from loading software that isn't official.
Yes you can flash roms etc without s-off. S-off is dangerous but can offer extra methods of recovery should your phone die unexpectedly. It is highly recommended to buy s-off via sunshine app if you plan on rooting.
Rooting has its uses but it has more disadvantages. Some apps won't run, ie banking apps, you can easily cheat games but it makes things boring, you can block adverts but you can get rootless options too.. Swings and roundabouts. Personally I don't root anymore.
Rajaasim1980 said:
Hi there,
I have been rooting all previous samsung and pixel phone but i dont know if rooting or unlocking bootlaoder is needed for HTC U11.. I mean software is fast and fluid, battery is exceptional (7 hour screen on time), not much bloatware out there, sound is alo great unless we have some sound mods out there who improve it further
so is there any advantage of rooting and going after custom ROMs/Mods ?
secondly i am using HTC phone after long time so this S On/OFF is confusing. If we have unlock bootloader and root/Twrp then can we flash all custom ROMs ? or we must need to do S-OFF in order to flash some custom ROMs ?
Thanks
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You dont need to be S Off to install a custom ROM. Although there are more and more apps and theming engines that pretty much do what the old rooting used to, I have been rooting since the old school evo days. You can always go back to stock in most cases, but its nice to see what the different custom roms developers have to offer and experience the different user interfaces. The installation of a different kernel is the the best advantage to me if you are looking to tweak battery usage and certain functions. Plus you van back up and dirty flash most roms without much hassle or loss of data. I currently am S On and have used a few different daily driver roms with no issues for years now. Just read up on firmware updating and the Rom requirements before loading.
shivadow said:
S-off is protection for system turned off so anything written to root is permanent.
Unlocking bootloader is what protects the phone from loading software that isn't official.
Yes you can flash roms etc without s-off. S-off is dangerous but can offer extra methods of recovery should your phone die unexpectedly. It is highly recommended to buy s-off via sunshine app if you plan on rooting.
Rooting has its uses but it has more disadvantages. Some apps won't run, ie banking apps, you can easily cheat games but it makes things boring, you can block adverts but you can get rootless options too.. Swings and roundabouts. Personally I don't root anymore.
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Not the best advice or info.
You don't need s off unless you plan on changing your u11 firmware from one cid to another (Google it). Why spend the $$ unnecessarily?
IF you root with Magisk you can use magisk Manager to hide root from banking and other apps and they'll work just fine.
It's 101...
jhill110 said:
Not the best advice or info.
You don't need s off unless you plan on changing your u11 firmware from one cid to another (Google it). Why spend the $$ unnecessarily?
IF you root with Magisk you can use magisk Manager to hide root from banking and other apps and they'll work just fine.
It's 101...
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My explanation for s-off is valid. S-off has more uses than just changing the cid. Google it. I recommend s-off in all instances where the phone will be rooted. Otherwise you leave it s-on.
As for magisk, it doesn't always work. Google it. It's 101.
S off S on
Personally I've only ever used S off to downgrade stock, never needed to change cid, it makes tasks easier but a lot of the security is missing, it's swings & roundabouts soff
only temporary on the u11
jhill110 said:
Not the best advice or info.
You don't need s off unless you plan on changing your u11 firmware from one cid to another (Google it). Why spend the $$ unnecessarily?
IF you root with Magisk you can use magisk Manager to hide root from banking and other apps and they'll work just fine.
It's 101...
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I rooted an old Motorola phone (Verizon) years ago and I didn't have any problems then. I could flash all these different ROMs and it was cool and interesting to do. Later phones I owned from Verizon didn't let me root so that was that. This year I decided I wanted to get a phone directly from HTC, the U11. I got the version that I could unlock and it didn't have all the bloatware like from the other carriers. I got the phone in April of this year and did the unlock process using the HTC Dev website. All went well and I loaded up a few apps that only worked with an unlocked phone. I installed Magisk and TWRP but I never did install a custom ROM because the phone was working well - fast and long battery life and the apps that required an unlocked phone played well.
Then a couple weeks ago there was a notification on my phone that there was an OTA update. The OTA notification nag screen was constantly coming up and of course I couldn't update while the phone was unlock. Or at least that's what I thought. So I went and used ADB and gave the the command to OEM lock. That was it, my phone got corrupt and long story short my phone is headed back to HTC to be revived.
When I do get the phone back I'll leave it as is, factory stock. I really didn't see the need to flash any new ROMs after I got the phone in April. It is a hard lesson to learn but oh well. It is what it is. If I do decide to unlock again, I will make sure I know what I am doing. Obviously I didn't.
Good luck OP on what you decide.
Tethering Without Root?
I'm moving from an S7 to the U11. I've always rooted my phones in the past, mainly to get tethering and remove bloat. Is there a tether option without rooting the U11? From what I hear there isn't a ton of bloat on the U11, so if I can tether without root, I might just do that.
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I'm moving from an S7 to the U11. I've always rooted my phones in the past, mainly to get tethering and remove bloat. Is there a tether option without rooting the U11? From what I hear there isn't a ton of bloat on the U11, so if I can tether without root, I might just do that.
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https://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-u11/howto/sharing-data-connection-with-usb-tethering.html
Well there isn't much of bloatware on the U11 and that is one of the reasons I wanted that phone. Another reason was that I wanted the latest HTC phone (got my U11 in April before the U12+ came out). I don't care for Samsung and Apple phones and I've just gravitated toward HTC since the HTC Incredible.
I've rooted a couple phones before and they were so easy to do. No issues and it was not so complicated as it is now. I really screwed my U11 (or at least I couldn't figure out the right procedures to get it out of trouble).
I root because I want youtube adaway (Which to be fair does have a no root option) and, more importantly, adaway.
Adaway has no alternative if you aren't rooted, which sucks. I don't care for adgaurds VPN or DNS666. An App like Adaway, I would pay for that on a non-rooted phone to make it happen. Bonus, I also get to install other ROMs Once my phone stops being updated by HTC, which seeing their track record, will be around January of 2019.
KOAO said:
I root because I want youtube adaway (Which to be fair does have a no root option) and, more importantly, adaway.
Adaway has no alternative if you aren't rooted, which sucks. I don't care for adgaurds VPN or DNS666. An App like Adaway, I would pay for that on a non-rooted phone to make it happen. Bonus, I also get to install other ROMs Once my phone stops being updated by HTC, which seeing their track record, will be around January of 2019.
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it can't work on rooted phones because google doesnt want to happen.
Adaway removes the reveneue of big corporations, and thats affect google, thats why google, banking apps, and even pokemon don't like rooting.
you can acess your bank in your windows PC (windows have admin mode)
but you can't in android..
F** logic..
I don't know what people are doing on this site that say we don't need root. It's like atheists on eclesiastical meeting
I often think putting a custom rom in more secure due to the security patches being updated, however obviously you need to mask it for bank apps. So how important are security updates? Banking apps like google pay dont check that condition yet they check the latter.
Hey guys i need your advice.
Tomorrow my Pixel 7 pro arrives and i am living in an unsupported county. I have read a lot of guides about the root etc. i just want to verify that i will be able to use the full features of the device if i rooted....like call screening, 5g etc. and how risky is to be rooted nowdays because last time i root my phone was 10 years ago....if after the mandatory things i don't install any app outside of the store and don't grant access root will my device be safe ? thank you
try hentaios In the latest update it was activated 5g in unsupported countries
m3ath said:
try hentaios In the latest update it was activated 5g in unsupported countries
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HentaiOS for Pixel 7 Pro? Is it on Telegram or another third-party place?
ekin_strops said:
HentaiOS for Pixel 7 Pro? Is it on Telegram or another third-party place?
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yes for 7 pro and 7
They have a channel in Telegram
I am certainly not an expert. I remember the days of flashing roms. I used to sometimes flash multiple roms a day.
Now most of the features I used to use custom roms for are already in Android.
Also if you have a Pixel you have a pretty clean version of Android.
So I don't really see the point. Maybe in your situation because you are using the phone in an unsupported country you might be able to enable some features but I would think the network bands are hardware based and either your carrier is compatible with the Pixel or not?
IMHO I would not root or install custom software on a brand new phone like a Pixel or other flagship. It generally voids your warranty and if you soft brick the device and can't revive it what do you do? Also with root you have huge security vulnerability. Pixel is supposed to be one of the most secure Android phones so why would you get rid of that benefit?
Also updates would be a pain.
If I had a free cheap phone from a carrier with a crappy version of Android that I would risk rooting and maybe installing a custom ROM but I just don't see the need on a Pixel??
robbbzilla said:
IMHO I would not root or install custom software on a brand new phone like a Pixel or other flagship. It generally voids your warranty and if you soft brick the device and can't revive it what do you do? Also with root you have huge security vulnerability. Pixel is supposed to be one of the most secure Android phones so why would you get rid of that benefit?
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1) It doesn't void your warranty on the Pixel.
2) Root isn't a security vulnerability in and of itself but the unlocked bootloader can be if someone gets ahold of your phone. Seeing how the filesystem is encrypted though, it's not so much a risk to your data as it is to the person being able to steal the phone easier.
3) Most other phones have largely been locked down so a lot of us get the Pixel *because* it can be rooted.
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Also updates would be a pain.
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Not too bad. Pixel Flasher makes the whole process easy. Plug into the computer, launch Pixel Flasher, download the update, click the patch image button so it makes a Magisk image, select that image, flash. It's all done with a user friendly GUI. While it's not as straightforward as updating directly on the phone, it also installs faster, so it's a worthwhile trade off.
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1) It doesn't void your warranty on the Pixel.
2) Root isn't a security vulnerability in and of itself but the unlocked bootloader can be if someone gets ahold of your phone. Seeing how the filesystem is encrypted though, it's not so much a risk to your data as it is to the person being able to steal the phone easier.
3) Most other phones have largely been locked down so a lot of us get the Pixel *because* it can be rooted.
Not too bad. Pixel Flasher makes the whole process easy. Plug into the computer, launch Pixel Flasher, download the update, click the patch image button so it makes a Magisk image, select that image, flash. It's all done with a user friendly GUI. While it's not as straightforward as updating directly on the phone, it also installs faster, so it's a worthwhile trade off.
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Good to know. I thought enabling root level privileges would cause system wide insecurity.
As I prefaced my comments I am no expert and it has been a long time since I rooted my phones.
That is why it is good to ask questions and learn about the state of things now.
I didn't know that you could root a Pixel device and not void the warranty. I am used to the Samsung lock down.
Also with Pixel or with previous Nexus device it was always fun to see what new features Google would add in a new update/feature drop so I never felt the need to root a Pixel phone.
However if you like rooting and can do so without much risk then why not? I can see the fun in trying different software and gaining better control over your device.
robbbzilla said:
Good to know. I thought enabling root level privileges would cause system wide insecurity.
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Seeing how you still have to authorize the use of root and Magisk even has added support for fingerprint verification to do so, it's not much more of a risk than having an unrooted device really.
robbbzilla said:
Also with Pixel or with previous Nexus device it was always fun to see what new features Google would add in a new update/feature drop so I never felt the need to root a Pixel phone.
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You still get this stuff when you're rooted and even on most custom ROMs for Pixel. The only downside comes from apps that don't want to play nice. As long as I can use Google Pay, which I'm able to do after using the SafetyNet fix mod, I don't mind having to use the web browser for a banking app here and there (and right now there's only one that flat out won't work, Security Service FCU, so I'm not too put out by it).
It's a pain in the ass to enable carrier features like VoLTE, VoNR, etc. Pixel features like call screening require phenotype edits, which are also a pain in the ass.
G_Vasi said:
Hey guys i need your advice.
Tomorrow my Pixel 7 pro arrives and i am living in an unsupported county. I have read a lot of guides about the root etc. i just want to verify that i will be able to use the full features of the device if i rooted....like call screening, 5g etc. and how risky is to be rooted nowdays because last time i root my phone was 10 years ago....if after the mandatory things i don't install any app outside of the store and don't grant access root will my device be safe ? thank you
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One bit of warning/caution, I've seen/found a lot of users on this forum who are in other countries (maybe unsupported) biggest issue would be NFC pay & banking apps not working. I personally have only seen a few select apps stated on this forum that can't be launched due to root detection that SafetyNetFix and Zygisk DenyList/Shamiko wasn't able to successfully hide, but there are some -- I myself have Wallet, Gpay, 4 banking apps, Xfinity apps, working while I've discussed with some other users the same banking app not working for them -- that, no matter how much users tried, they were unable to get it working. Supposedly there are combinations of root hiding methods and modules that have blocked mostly all of the stubborn apps, but then there seems to be some apps that merely just having an unlocked bootloader is enough to restrict their use.
So if this might be your situation where you have certain apps (most likely banking) that you can't really live without and/or use daily/frequently but they are known to not run on a rooted & unlocked bootloader device, that's the only real downside to rooting.
Other than that, I believe obtaining root on our device benefits so much far outweighing the risks. If certain things stop working, usually there are workarounds to get them to work or alternatives. If anything, particularly in your case, I don't believe you can get those features of 5G and call screening and camera sound and VPN and whatever other feature is restricted in an unsupported country without root....
So there are them pros & cons...
Thank you for your answers guys.....I also think that pros are more than cons....as far as I know and from the ways I found here my Bank apps will work normally.....and also I found a tutorial here that say it will enable all the Pixel features in unsupported countries so hopefully it will work...if by any case anyone tried it I would like to hear the feedback especially for google screening.