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so I'm very disappointed about the so big advertising i saw about this phone on this forum from xda staff and promises about possible agreements between xda and huawei so to have maybe good development when in the end it seems it was just words.. nevertheless in this price range i still think this phone is one of the best if not the best for specs so could maybe get one anyway.
that said my first question is about camera. i tested two huawei phones lately (p8 lite and g8) and found out the former did very bad pictures (especially in low light conditions/inside spaces.. terrible!) while the latter (g8) seems to make very good pictures, also with low light.
do someone knows if the honor 8 makes good pictures in low light conditions/inside spaces in the evening like the g8 maybe? or better? but anyway better than the terrible p8 lite?
another thing. stock fw is pretty good but i miss some features, for example long press volume buttons when screen is off to switch songs (without headphones) and unlink notifications/ringtones volume and change volume steps. do you know if i can achieve all this with xposed for example and gravity box? will these features be compatible on huawei?
last thing, i don't use any gapps/services. in the past i used to create flahsable zips for stock firmwares (sony, Samsung etc) to remove all Google stuff, will this work with huawei as well i suppose? or maybe it will prevent phone to boot? dunno how is huawei linked to google stuff.. and if the Google icon in settings will disappear removing google stuff..
tia for any helps guys!

FcukBloat said:
so I'm very disappointed about the so big advertising i saw about this phone on this forum from xda staff and promises about possible agreements between xda and huawei so to have maybe good development when in the end it seems it was just words.. nevertheless in this price range i still think this phone is one of the best if not the best for specs so could maybe get one anyway.
that said my first question is about camera. i tested two huawei phones lately (p8 lite and g8) and found out the former did very bad pictures (especially in low light conditions/inside spaces.. terrible!) while the latter (g8) seems to make very good pictures, also with low light.
do someone knows if the honor 8 makes good pictures in low light conditions/inside spaces in the evening like the g8 maybe? or better? but anyway better than the terrible p8 lite?
another thing. stock fw is pretty good but i miss some features, for example long press volume buttons when screen is off to switch songs (without headphones) and unlink notifications/ringtones volume and change volume steps. do you know if i can achieve all this with xposed for example and gravity box? will these features be compatible on huawei?
last thing, i don't use any gapps/services. in the past i used to create flahsable zips for stock firmwares (sony, Samsung etc) to remove all Google stuff, will this work with huawei as well i suppose? or maybe it will prevent phone to boot? dunno how is huawei linked to google stuff.. and if the Google icon in settings will disappear removing google stuff..
tia for any helps guys!
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I believe Honor 8 will impress you in terms of photography. As for your desired features, Xposed modules will most likely grant those. For Google stuff, you won't have problems of you delete the right apps.
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thanks for the answer my friend!

FcukBloat said:
thanks for the answer my friend!
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You are welcome my friend.
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Low light camera is actually very good. Samsung GS7 is the best in this area but H8 comes close.
Overall you'll see a huge quality bump.
You can customize button press, yes.
If you root you can take almost every gaps from H8.

zinko_pt said:
Low light camera is actually very good. Samsung GS7 is the best in this area but H8 comes close.
Overall you'll see a huge quality bump.
You can customize button press, yes.
If you root you can take almost every gaps from H8.
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Note 3 and 4 rocked as well.

FcukBloat said:
so I'm very disappointed about the so big advertising i saw about this phone on this forum from xda staff and promises about possible agreements between xda and huawei so to have maybe good development when in the end it seems it was just words.. nevertheless in this price range i still think this phone is one of the best if not the best for specs so could maybe get one anyway.
that said my first question is about camera. i tested two huawei phones lately (p8 lite and g8) and found out the former did very bad pictures (especially in low light conditions/inside spaces.. terrible!) while the latter (g8) seems to make very good pictures, also with low light.
do someone knows if the honor 8 makes good pictures in low light conditions/inside spaces in the evening like the g8 maybe? or better? but anyway better than the terrible p8 lite?
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I can confirm that it makes good (I would not say great it is for the top Samsung devices) pictores in low light. That is the environment where the second camera comes to handy and makes pictures with a bit more light and less noise. The only thing which you have to keep it mind is that you have to hol the phone still since it does not have OIS.

malnabokor said:
I can confirm that it makes good (I would not say great it is for the top Samsung devices) pictores in low light. That is the environment where the second camera comes to handy and makes pictures with a bit more light and less noise. The only thing which you have to keep it mind is that you have to hol the phone still since it does not have OIS.
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That's, for me the biggest gripe, the lack of any stabilization, either optical or electronic. I can live without 4K.

i have pretty still hands but my primary need is to take pictures of my baby inside home.. so without that stabilisation thing you think all my pictures will be bad probably? (when baby is moving, so most of the times..)
the huawei gx8 my gf owns has OIS... and the honor 8 doesn't.. how is that possible? gx8 is older and wasn't even a flagship..!! her gx8 indeed takes nice pictures also inside home in the evening or outside with low light.. so is that supposed to take better pictures than the honor8..? my god..
tia!

FcukBloat said:
i have pretty still hands but my primary need is to take pictures of my baby inside home.. so without that stabilisation thing you think all my pictures will be bad probably? (when baby is moving, so most of the times..)
the huawei gx8 my gf owns has OIS... and the honor 8 doesn't.. how is that possible? gx8 is older and wasn't even a flagship..!! her gx8 indeed takes nice pictures also inside home in the evening or outside with low light.. so is that supposed to take better pictures than the honor8..? my god..
tia!
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You misunderstood me
OIS comes handy when you take a video or a >1/30 picture. In normal light conditions it actually does not have any affect on the picture quality. Usually when there is less light (actually during night) the camera software tries to compensate with taking the picture longer. That is when you can enjoy the benefits of the OIS. But if you hold your phone still there is no much a difference between a camera with OIS and without it only if you zoom in. And even with the dual camera you can take better pictures (the second camera catches more light)
So that is it. And the gx8 could have the OIS because it was a single camera. For two camera you have to create an OIS which moves the two camera simultaneously. The Huawei could just finish the development at the Mate 9.
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thanks chief! so i guess I'll experience it myself soon, am probably ordering one honor 8 today as my mi5 is gonna take ages to get back after repair in China.. and i need a replacement phone soon.
then if it takes better pictures than the mi5 and if development will arrive, will keep it, otherwise will sell it when i get my mi5 back
thanks again!

FcukBloat said:
thanks chief! so i guess I'll experience it myself soon, am probably ordering one honor 8 today as my mi5 is gonna take ages to get back after repair in China.. and i need a replacement phone soon.
then if it takes better pictures than the mi5 and if development will arrive, will keep it, otherwise will sell it when i get my mi5 back
thanks again!
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Your welcome and enjoy the phone (and if there are some great pictures you took you are welcome to share them here in the forum).

Can confirm, absolutely love this phone for photography.
In fact I love this phone hands down, hope you enjoy it was much as I do!

All the Reviews- found a good review add it here

As the title says, this thread is one place for all the reviews of the P20 Pro. So if you find a good review, or have one yourself, add it here.
This is my main review of the Huawei P20 Pro after using it for 6 weeks, now on newer firmware too. I show the differences in the newer firmware along with the photos. There are over 300 photos in my review, plus links to my over 17 articles covering the phone. https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/05/1...weeks-using-new-firmware-300-camera-showcase/
I’ll add some that I’ve found so far.
Huawei P20 Pro Camera Review - Every mode tested photo & video https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/04/0...eview-showcase-every-video-photo-mode-tested/
My first impressions, incl 17 min video of tips & tricks, camera & audio https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/04/0...ions-incl-camera-audio-my-top-10-tips-tricks/
Huawei P20 Pro night/pitch dark camera analysis of auto, night & pro modes https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/04/06/huawei-p20-pro-shooting-at-night-with-the-camera-its-a-beast/
Huawei P20 Pro Top cases review https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/04/22/huawei-p20-pro-top-cases-reviewed/
190 Photos from the P20 Pro put together as a camera showcase -
https://youtu.be/BZKvSQ9sHvs
Camera shots analysis before and after using Adobe Lightroom https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/03/3...om-the-phone-adobe-lightroom-edited-versions/
Huawei P20 Audio Review and compared against iPhone X, S9+ and Pixel 2 XL https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/04/1...iphone-x-samsung-galaxy-s9-google-pixel-2-xl/
Digital Trends https://www.digitaltrends.com/cell-phone-reviews/huawei-p20-pro-review/
The Verge https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/6/17198708/huawei-p20-pro-review
Wired http://www.wired.co.uk/article/huawei-p20-pro-review
Techradar https://www.techradar.com/reviews/huawei-p20-pro-review
Pocket lint https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/...p20-pro-review-specs-cameras-price-best-phone
OP6 vs P20 Pro vs Honor 10 - 3 way camera comparison https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/06/0...ra-comparison-photo-video-a-winner-is-picked/

AndroidPit - P20 Pro Display Review (links in article to reviews for camera and battery life)
https://www.androidpit.com/huawei-p20-pro-display-review

Enjoyed that review. Thanks.

The Register
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/09/huawei_p20_pro_review/
The Hufferington Post
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...-huffpost-verdict_uk_5ac768cfe4b09d0a1192ba0f
These reviews are negative , but do match with my own personal experience with the device. Good to share so users have a more rounded view of the device.
Such a shame as everything else about the phone is bloody fantastic

Tiger33 said:
The Register
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/09/huawei_p20_pro_review/
The Hufferington Post
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...-huffpost-verdict_uk_5ac768cfe4b09d0a1192ba0f
These reviews are negative , but do match with my own personal experience with the device. Good to share so users have a more rounded view of the device.
Such a shame as everything else about the phone is bloody fantastic
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That was what I am afraid of, brilliant night shots but not so great at other sceneries. Was so disappointed in my Mate 10 Pro who filtered everything with Huaweis terrible post processing making details disappear and faces looking painted in watercolor and colors nowhere what they look in real life.
Is it possible to turn of all this terrible AI functions ?

I've used it in every way possible with great results. This is the biggest photo gallery from shots taken on the P20 Pro by many people created by Jonathan Morris.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qU1EUEeVoPd12WUj2

Tiger33 said:
The Register
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/09/huawei_p20_pro_review/
The Hufferington Post
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...-huffpost-verdict_uk_5ac768cfe4b09d0a1192ba0f
These reviews are negative , but do match with my own personal experience with the device. Good to share so users have a more rounded view of the device.
Such a shame as everything else about the phone is bloody fantastic
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Different opinions are welcomed if constructive. Not everyone can like every phone. It would be boring if we only liked one phone ?
However, the Register review is a poorly written , and more click bait. I didn’t realised it was the same review called out on twitter by one of the key reviewers, Alex Dobie, at Android Central, being of poor content etc.. I think the comment that it lacks micro sd card is a major flaw is daft. Does that mean every iPhone sold, Pixel Xiaomi etc that’s uses only internal storage is flawed. Internal storage is faster and more reliable. However, I do understand some people like a micro sd card and might need one too.

gavinfabl said:
Different opinions are welcomed if constructive. Not everyone can like every phone. It would be boring if we only liked one phone [emoji3]
However, the Register review is a poorly written , and more click bait. I didn’t realised it was the same review called out on twitter by one of the key reviewers, Alex Dobie, at Android Central, being of poor content etc.. I think the comment that it lacks micro sd card is a major flaw is daft. Does that mean every iPhone sold, Pixel Xiaomi etc that’s uses only internal storage is flawed. Internal storage is faster and more reliable. However, I do understand some people like a micro sd card and might need one too.
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But Gavin, don’t you think it is strange to have SD as option in the P20 Lite but not in the flagship P20 Pro? I think it is as very strange and bad choice from Huawei. If the P20 lite didn’t have it I would not be as silly not to have it on the Pro but for now I think it is plain stupid

No. The lite is nothing close to the Pro other than in name. It's a budget offering only and therefore cheaper pricing is needed.
When you're taking photos and having tons of computational photography internal storage is the best option by miles. Same reason other top end phones do this.

gavinfabl said:
No. The lite is nothing close to the Pro other than in name. It's a budget offering only and therefore cheaper pricing is needed.
When you're taking photos and having tons of computational photography internal storage is the best option by miles. Same reason other top end phones do this.
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I don’t buy that thinking. People will see the P20 Lite and Pro as the same kind of phone and don’t understand why the cheaper one has SD support and not the expensive one. Already heard lots of people thinking this is stupid. And the SD card is fast enough for most of the camera options so that the internal storage is best by miles is a bad expression for most scenarios. They should have let people decide if they wanna use a SD card or not. Even Samsung is letting people use SD card in the S9 series

Just done my audio review covering the speakers, Bluetooth, and dongle and then compared it against the iPhone X, S9+ and Pixel 2 XL and also tried using some external headphone amp/DACs with the P20 Pro https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/04/1...iphone-x-samsung-galaxy-s9-google-pixel-2-xl/

gavinfabl said:
I've used it in every way possible with great results. This is the biggest photo gallery from shots taken on the P20 Pro by many people created by Jonathan Morris.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qU1EUEeVoPd12WUj2
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The gallery is absolutely impressive.
However what is of interest if these shots were taken as a "point and shoot" or if the pro mode was used. For me, I hardly have time to fiddle around with settings and would prefer to get a good shot with automatic controls ( most of the time )

nickfury said:
The gallery is absolutely impressive.
However what is of interest if these shots were taken as a "point and shoot" or if the pro mode was used. For me, I hardly have time to fiddle around with settings and would prefer to get a good shot with automatic controls ( most of the time )
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Most are point and shoot and by several people as well.

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Most are point and shoot and by several people as well.
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Well that is truly awesome then.
The only thing stopping me with getting this phone is EMUI. There are so many quirks in terms of notification issues, widget issues etc that is just a pain to deal with on a daily basis.

nickfury said:
Well that is truly awesome then.
The only thing stopping me with getting this phone is EMUI. There are so many quirks in terms of notification issues, widget issues etc that is just a pain to deal with on a daily basis.
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I'm not seeing any quirks with this newest version of EMUI. It's a joy to have TBH

gavinfabl said:
I'm not seeing any quirks with this newest version of EMUI. It's a joy to have TBH
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Well I might be wrong, but in the p20 pro, mate 10, mate 9 and p10 forums, a lot of people have issues with widgets and notifications not appearing etc.
I have personally had the same experience when I had the mate 9 and so I was particularly looking to see if they were resolved. Reading through this forum it didn't seem the case. However you mention otherwise, so I am a bit confused

I have had the Mate 9 and Mate 10 Pro and there were issues.
This is the first version of EMUI that I am happy with. Phone is my main phone and works brilliant.

And I have over 130 apps installed.

gavinfabl said:
I have had the Mate 9 and Mate 10 Pro and there were issues.
This is the first version of EMUI that I am happy with. Phone is my main phone and works brilliant.
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Thanks for clarifying that. This certainly is piquing my interest now.
Just in terms of your setup, do you have a custom launcher on it? Also did you have to exclude apps from battery optimization to get notifications consistently ( especially even when the phone is in deep sleep) ?
Thanks again for your help and input

nickfury said:
Thanks for clarifying that. This certainly is piquing my interest now.
Just in terms of your setup, do you have a custom launcher on it? Also did you have to exclude apps from battery optimization to get notifications consistently ( especially even when the phone is in deep sleep) ?
Thanks again for your help and input
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Using default launcher, and not had to exclude any apps. See this post of mine, video shows every app installed https://gavinsgadgets.com/2018/04/0...ions-incl-camera-audio-my-top-10-tips-tricks/

Can the camera improve through updates?

Hey guys,
I'm still on the fence of where or not to buy the Nex S. Generally speaking I'm convinced by it but even though I don't use the camera that much, it is still quite important.
Looking at reviews and test pictures it's worse than my OnePlus 3's which just seems absurd to me.
So is there any chance the camera could improve with future software updates or is the camera sensor itself just terrible?
And do we have to rely on Vivo for updates or could a 3rd party app improve the camera?
Thanks guys!

When Vivo puts out updates on this phone it always gives brief notes on what's being updated. I've seen camera updates in their notes with three of the past updates they've put out. I'm not a big user of cameras so I can't give you anything more than that. No pictures to compare the initial camera software release with the latest update. We'll have to wait for a reviewer on youtube to compare initial camera software with the latest release.

Just use the g cam with HDR+ version
Forget the stock app with any phones except
P20 pro stock app it is phenomenal

rowihel2012 said:
Just use the g cam with HDR+ version
Forget the stock app with any phones except
P20 pro stock app it is phenomenal
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Do you have the phone? Would you be able to post some comparison shots? I tried googling for some but haven't been able to find any.
I mean software can only do so much, right? So if the Camera is bad in terms of hardware, there isn't really much we can do about it, right? I unfortunately don't know a whole lot about cameras.

Cheesus182 said:
Hey guys,
I'm still on the fence of where or not to buy the Nex S. Generally speaking I'm convinced by it but even though I don't use the camera that much, it is still quite important.
Looking at reviews and test pictures it's worse than my OnePlus 3's which just seems absurd to me.
So is there any chance the camera could improve with future software updates or is the camera sensor itself just terrible?
And do we have to rely on Vivo for updates or could a 3rd party app improve the camera?
Thanks guys!
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Pretty sure it's way better than Oneplus 3. Its more than sufficient in its performance & if u know bit of quick tweaking on snapseed, you can pretty much get top notch photo with it in same comparison to note 8. It's better than Oneplus 6 btw. I am saying from my own 1st hand experience ofcourse.

sumit28june said:
Pretty sure it's way better than Oneplus 3. Its more than sufficient in its performance & if u know bit of quick tweaking on snapseed, you can pretty much get top notch photo with it in same comparison to note 8. It's better than Oneplus 6 btw. I am saying from my own 1st hand experience ofcourse.
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Hi, i do have the Vivo nex s.
My previous phone was the oneplus3.
The camera of the OP3 is way better.
Im thinking that's even my OPO had a better camera.
The phone is lacking focus, the AI messes up everthing andere even in 'profesional' mode the pictures are not better.
I like how the phone looks and feels, if you have a lot of patience setting up (if you have the Chinese version like i do) then this might be the phone for you.
If you want a phone with a good camera.. dont buy this phone

Wat u think?

Another pic

Can someone please explain the reason for the photo quality difference on the OP7P?

Hey, All...
I'm on the newest 9.5.7 on my 12/256 OP7P that I ordered direct from OP.
Although the updates are making the camera better, I still can't wrap my mind around how there can be such a detail and focus issue between photos and apps on the SAME device. To me, that means that it's software that is the issue, and not actually hardware quality...
Here's a comparison of two photos I took with the same conditions in the same distance in the same lighting. One is from the G cam app on my OnePlus 7 Pro and the other is from the stock camera on my OnePlus 7 Pro How can there be such a difference?
Needless to say, the photo that looks better and has much more detail is from the G cam app
To be totally transparent, I also have a Pixel 3XL that I use
Thanks for helping me understand!

Yay for black cats! I have one, too.
Anyhoo, if you're trying to understand the difference in quality between Google's software and OP's, I don't think it's fair. Google's software for their camera is the best on the market. Even the likes of Samsung haven't beaten them yet (for still images and night shots). Personally, I'm happy with the stock camera performance on this 7 Pro because I don't really demand the bleeding edge camera performance on a phone. Not to suggest that you require that, most of us just want usable pics to share online with each other.
Pixel 3a is $400 and has the second best camera (behind the regular Pixel 3) on the market. For some folks, the camera is the number one reason for choosing their phone. For me, it's like number 4 on my list. I didn't like the 6T performance because even for regular shots that I shared online, it was hot garbage. But they've made enough improvement to it on this 7 Pro to make day to day living and photo shooting fair enough. When I need just that much more quality (especially at low light), I just use the Gcam.

There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.

stuff said:
There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
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I wonder how good the actual hardware is on the pixel 3xl camera compared to the OP7P then, lol.

KillerQ said:
I wonder how good the actual hardware is on the pixel 3xl camera compared to the OP7P then, lol.
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In my opinion, I don't think it's any better or worse tbh. The capability of the camera application is crucial.
Google put all their effort into taking the best "auto" photos it can conjure up. That's why there doesn't exist the ability to manually change it.
But that camera app is also designed specifically for that HW camera (whichever hw model Pixel it is).
Google just knows what they are doing in that dept.

stuff said:
There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
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stuff said:
In my opinion, I don't think it's any better or worse tbh. The capability of the camera application is crucial.
Google put all their effort into taking the best "auto" photos it can conjure up. That's why there doesn't exist the ability to manually change it.
But that camera app is also designed specifically for that HW camera (whichever hw model Pixel it is).
Google just knows what they are doing in that dept.
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So, this means, as soon as someone comes up with an amazing G cam port for our phone, we'll be sitting pretty just like everyone else.

KillerQ said:
So, this means, as soon as someone comes up with an amazing G cam port for our phone, we'll be sitting pretty just like everyone else.
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Don't take my word 100% on it, but I believe that is the case.

Blurry Photos on Front Camera

Hey guys, Got my phone 2 days back. I received a software update the very moment I signed in and I did.
Later through the day I went on checking the cameras. I was in a medium to low lit room and I could see the front camera was blurry. So I tried taking pictures but they did turn out well. I tried gcam but the viewfinder was still the same blurred with good shots after the photo was clicked.
I went outside to check the camera and I could see the viewfinder preview was sharp as it looks on my op5. I went back to the low lit room and the viewfinder turned blurry again. Also I tried video calling and the receiver told me that my video looked like some low frame rate camera.
I received an update later which reduced the blur effect a little but it's very much noticeable.
Anybody else has this issue?
Sorry for the long post. Just wanted to be as detailed as possible.

Also I'm not sure if it's a hardware issue. If it's a hardware issue the viewfinder should've been blurred in good light too right?
Also photos when clicked in low-light come out good. The issue is with the viewfinder only.
I'm sceptical of getting a replacement if it's not a hardware issue due to the lockdown delay and all and since it's from OnePlus site I don't get the return option either like Amazon.
Please share your valuable thoughts regarding this and if anyone else's facing the same issue.

Seems like nobody has the issue. So I might rma the device.
Thanks people

alanjolly123 said:
Seems like nobody has the issue. So I might rma the device.
Thanks people
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Man I have the same issue, and yes a friend told me bad quality during whatsapp videocall, I hope is a software problem cause is not acceptable...

claudiovalen said:
Man I have the same issue, and yes a friend told me bad quality during whatsapp videocall, I hope is a software problem cause is not acceptable...
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Ohh finally someone with the same issue. Did you try to report or something?

alanjolly123 said:
Ohh finally someone with the same issue. Did you try to report or something?
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I am still trying to understand if this is an hardware problem or software. I wrote on a forum and they told me "sometimes blurry, but its okay with the colours" and another "whatsapp videocalls were always pretty bad, but I faced issue with blurry camera only at night". People answered me like if this is normal for a 1000€ phone...I come from one plus 7t pro and the front camera was better. I don't know what to do, I wait some days to find more discussion about this, if this is an hardware problem I try to replace otherwise I will ask refund...

I'm pretty sure the 7T & both 8s use the same font camera sensor (Sony imx471) so the images should be similar depending on software.
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Barman49 said:
I'm pretty sure the 7T & both 8s use the same font camera sensor (Sony imx471) so the images should be similar depending on software.
Sent from my IN2017 using Tapatalk
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Actually the photos in low light turn out good once you've captured them. They're blurry only in the viewfinder. As such video calls are also blurry since what you see on the viewfinder is what the receiver gets.
To top it all the viewfinder is sharp when it's good lighting out there. The issue is only with medium to low light

Hi, i am facing the exact same problem. I got my phone (OnePlus 8) two days back and I started having second thoughts. I really hope it's a software issue. Spent a lot on this device.

I just bought one plus 8 and I am feeling so regretful as I figured out my front camera blurry, I don't know what should i do
Should I wait for software update?

Akash0071 said:
I just bought one plus 8 and I am feeling so regretful as I figured out my front camera blurry, I don't know what should i do
Should I wait for software update?
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I had a pixel2xl before the one plus 8. When I compared the quality of the photos in general, I thought that the one plus 8 must be broken. we agree that the camera of the one plus 8 is simply ****...