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I have a G930V and recently switched from Verizon to T-Mobile. I flashed the phone firmware to G930T so WiFi calling, VoLTE, and visual voicemail would work. After doing that, it seems the phone is now locked to the T-Mobile network - even though it was never locked on Verizon.
I wanted to de-bloat the phone and try G930U - but can I do that if the phone is locked now? Do I need to somehow unlock the phone first? Or is it only locked to the T-Mobile sim?
Also - If I switch to G930U, what will I lose other than bloatware? Just OTA updates? Do I have to do anything special to enable Advanced Messaging, Visual Voicemail, WiFi Calling, and VoLTE?
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I have a G930V and recently switched from Verizon to T-Mobile. I flashed the phone firmware to G930T so WiFi calling, VoLTE, and visual voicemail would work. After doing that, it seems the phone is now locked to the T-Mobile network - even though it was never locked on Verizon.
I wanted to de-bloat the phone and try G930U - but can I do that if the phone is locked now? Do I need to somehow unlock the phone first? Or is it only locked to the T-Mobile sim?
Also - If I switch to G930U, what will I lose other than bloatware? Just OTA updates? Do I have to do anything special to enable Advanced Messaging, Visual Voicemail, WiFi Calling, and VoLTE?
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Are you "network-locked"? or have a different sort of issue? I have a ex-VZW S7; however, due to the previous owner, I was "network-locked" - and thus could NOT take the phone back to VZW (the phone's original network). I am a Tracfone customer; therefore, I COULD take the phone to T-Mobile (Tracfone uses both networks). My misgivings were, in fact, entirely due to previous experiences using T-Mobile's network (with Tracfone, Safelink Wireless, and Virgin Mobile USA. After porting the IMEI, I prayed and did the firmware change (both were flawless. Rather amusingly, my service has ALSO been flawless - better than it has previously been as a T-Mobile-MVNO customer - unexpected, to say the least. I went from swearing AT Trafcone (and T-Mobile) to swearing by them (and eating a heaping helping of CROW in the process) - when I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I've had VoLTE (and VoWiFi as well) since I've been on the Pink side of things - if you want updates, you want T-Mobile firmware, though. (I'm running Project L V.4 and knew going in I'd lose OTAs - if you'rer comfortable with that, that may be an option for you. If you're nervous, grab the latest T-Mobile ODIN TAR (it has its own thread) and flash that - the firmware is un-fooled-around with. Extract and flash with ODIN as normal.
Verizon S7 phones are not locked, period. There are instructions on how to put Tmobile rom on the phone. We have done 2 and both were easy and worked flawlessly. Wifi Calling and LTE
hankvb said:
Verizon S7 phones are not locked, period. There are instructions on how to put Tmobile rom on the phone. We have done 2 and both were easy and worked flawlessly. Wifi Calling and LTE
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I know it is not locked as a Verizon phone. I am an talking about going BACK to 930V after flashing 930T. It appears to be network locked now...
I had the same issue. After changing the phone from a sm-930v to a sm-930t I placed a verizon sim in the phone and the carrier told me the device was network locked to T-Mobile. I used the T-Mobile unlock app and requested a carrier unlock. The message said, "phone permenantly unlocked." I am using a ATT sim card with Tracfone with no problems. By default Verizon phones are unlocked after 90 days if there are no pending contract issues. I think the T-Mobile carrier lock may depend upon the firmware you flash. You may want to wipe the data and try a different version.
Does anyone have a definite solution to this problem? I've read many opinions but haven't run across a solution. I have a Samsung unlocked S9+ running official AT&T firmware and userdata but the carrier specific apps and features still don't work. The best infomation I've found is that the IMEI numbers of the unlocked devices are not in AT&T system so the features/apps won't work.
If this is the case, has anyone had any luck getting AT&T to register their IMEI and get the features working?
What worked for me and others (see the at&t fw thread) is to call or chat with AT&T and give them a imei from a carrier branded phone(with your sim in, though this might not be required). Tell them you are trying to get wifi calling to activate and it is failing at the provisioning step and they will input your imei and it will reprovision. Then pull your sim and put it into your s9/+ running at&t fw and it will allow volte, wifi calling and call protect to work (these are the only ones I use).
Good luck
I talked with someone in AT&T technical support and they remoted directly into my phone, reset all app defaults and network settings.. This of course didn't fix anything so they opened a trouble ticket. They told me my IMEI was in their system and was OK. Haven't heard back yet.
why not just flash ATT U firmware?
I'm running AT&T official U firmware G965USQS2ARF4. What just occurred to me was that I didn't do a factory reset before or after applying it via ODIN.
Stuart R said:
I'm running AT&T official U firmware G965USQS2ARF4. What just occurred to me was that I didn't do a factory reset before or after applying it via ODIN.
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Just did that... Didn't help.
Stuart R said:
Does anyone have a definite solution to this problem? I've read many opinions but haven't run across a solution. I have a Samsung unlocked S9+ running official AT&T firmware and userdata but the carrier specific apps and features still don't work. The best infomation I've found is that the IMEI numbers of the unlocked devices are not in AT&T system so the features/apps won't work.
If this is the case, has anyone had any luck getting AT&T to register their IMEI and get the features working?
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Stuart R said:
I talked with someone in AT&T technical support and they remoted directly into my phone, reset all app defaults and network settings.. This of course didn't fix anything so they opened a trouble ticket. They told me my IMEI was in their system and was OK. Haven't heard back yet.
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Yes your IMEI is in their system. But it's not an IMEI from a branded ATT phone. You have to have the IMEI from an ATT phone like others have said, and like i had to do or you will not get the features, no matter what firmware you flash. This has been discussed in many threads. You have to have ATT change your IMEI in their system.
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why not just flash ATT U firmware?
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Wont help unless you have a 965U or the IMEI from an ATT phone . ATT Features will not work on 965U1 IMEI. AT&T told me theses features wouldn't work on an unlocked phone and asked if i had the unlocked version. I told them no, it was an ATT phone i bought from Best Buy and it has an ATT logo (not the truth, got it from Samsung) and that i read in the forums that there were some issues with the S9 and that changing the IMEI fixed everyone's problems. I said i had my s8 here that everything works on and she said it's worth a shot to try and she changed mine in their system to the IMEI from my AT&T Branded S8 that i provided them. 965U1 has worked flawless ever since. All features work.
nugzo said:
Yes your IMEI is in their system. But it's not an IMEI from a branded ATT phone. You have to have the IMEI from an ATT phone like others have said, and like i had to do or you will not get the features, no matter what firmware you flash. This has been discussed in many threads. You have to have ATT change your IMEI in their system.
Wont help unless you have a 965U or the IMEI from an ATT phone . ATT Features will not work on 965U1 IMEI. AT&T told me theses features wouldn't work on an unlocked phone and asked if i had the unlocked version. I told them no, it was an ATT phone i bought from Best Buy and it has an ATT logo (not the truth, got it from Samsung) and that i read in the forums that there were some issues with the S9 and that changing the IMEI fixed everyone's problems. I said i had my s8 here that everything works on and she said it's worth a shot to try and she changed mine in their system to the IMEI from my AT&T Branded S8 that i provided them. 965U1 has worked flawless ever since. All features work.
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sounds about right.. i mean you can switch csc while on U1 depending on the sim card inserted but U1 isnt meznt to have all the carrier crap they need for the special features to work so u get the bare minimum..
while on U firmware, it seems the csc doesnt fully switch like they did on the S8 devices.. i tested this on my sim unlocked vzw s9+ with an att sim and a sprint sim and although data and calls worked,it stsyed on verizon bootani and bloat etc etc no matter what i did.. before on s8 devices after a reset it would have changed the boot ani,bloat and woulda had all the carrier features..
im also surprised they changed your imei lol.. i thought that was illegal lol.. i guess if the carrier does it then its fine haha
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Yes your IMEI is in their system. But it's not an IMEI from a branded ATT phone. You have to have the IMEI from an ATT phone like others have said, and like i had to do or you will not get the features, no matter what firmware you flash. This has been discussed in many threads. You have to have ATT change your IMEI in their system.
Hard to believe that they would just accept another IMEI and register it to your phone. I thought these were all unique numbers that couldn't be used on more than one device. How did that change affect the phone that originally had the branded IMEI?
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Stuart R said:
nugzo said:
Yes your IMEI is in their system. But it's not an IMEI from a branded ATT phone. You have to have the IMEI from an ATT phone like others have said, and like i had to do or you will not get the features, no matter what firmware you flash. This has been discussed in many threads. You have to have ATT change your IMEI in their system.
Hard to believe that they would just accept another IMEI and register it to your phone. I thought these were all unique numbers that couldn't be used on more than one device. How did that change affect the phone that originally had the branded IMEI?
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Didnt affect original s8 i used at all. or the s9. I replaced the s8 with the s9 when it came out so i just used the sim out of the s8 when the s9 arrived. s8 is just a spare phone now. I asked the operator if this would disable the other phone that the IMEI came from and she said no. I put sim from s9 in s8 afterwards just to test and it worked fine. They arent changing the IMEI of your actual s9, it still shows your original IMEI in your phone settings. They are just using the IMEI you provided on their end. What is actually going on behind the scenes i dont know. Maybe somebody that works in carrier support or may just have knowledge on how this actually works could chime in. I'm guessing they just use the IMEI to activate the features, since the unlocked one isn't eligible. I saw a better explanation in one of the firmware threads, if i run across it i'll post the link.
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I will reiterate what is said above and clarify my post. You aren't asking the support team to change your phones imei. I think as stated previously that is a forbidden/illegal maneuver. The support request is to change the imei which is active in the at&t system as only carrier branded phones are able to use certain at&t features.
If you have an old AT&T phone its imei can be used to "trick" at&t into activation/provisioning. Then you can put your sim into a U1 phone using at&t firmware and use carrier specific features.
Hopefully, this is easier to understand and clears up some of the confusion I may have introduced in my original reply.
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I will reiterate what is said above and clarify my post. You aren't asking the support team to change your phones imei. I think as stated previously that is a forbidden/illegal maneuver. The support request is to change the imei which is active in the at&t system as only carrier branded phones are able to use certain at&t features.
If you have an old AT&T phone its imei can be used to "trick" at&t into activation/provisioning. Then you can put your sim into a U1 phone using at&t firmware and use carrier specific features.
Hopefully, this is easier to understand and clears up some of the confusion I may have introduced in my original reply.
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I presume I can use the IMEI from another brand of working AT&T phone such as an iPhone 6S (in this case, my wife's)?
Stuart R said:
I presume I can use the IMEI from another brand of working AT&T phone such as an iPhone 6S (in this case, my wife's)?
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Another thought... Say I get an old Galaxy S6 which uses the same size Nano SIM as my S9+. I move my S9+ SIM to the S6, update it to the latest AT&T firmware and enable WIFI calling. If I then move my SIM back to my S9+, will the carrier features now work?
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Another thought... Say I get an old Galaxy S6 which uses the same size Nano SIM as my S9+. I move my S9+ SIM to the S6, update it to the latest AT&T firmware and enable WIFI calling. If I then move my SIM back to my S9+, will the carrier features now work?
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This is exactly what I'm doing. I use an older LG phone and the sim/IMEI then swap it to my u1 with AT&T fw after the device is provisioned.
jay2o01 said:
This is exactly what I'm doing. I use an older LG phone and the sim/IMEI then swap it to my u1 with AT&T fw after the device is provisioned.
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Glad to know that works. I can pick up an old AT&T S6 pretty cheaply on ebay. Guess I'll give that a try. Thanks
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jay2o01 said:
This is exactly what I'm doing. I use an older LG phone and the sim/IMEI then swap it to my u1 with AT&T fw after the device is provisioned.
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I previously had an AT&T branded S8+ with the same SIM that I'm using in the unbranded S9+ but I guess I never provisioned (enabled) WIFI calling. Dunno.
The "trick" of giving them an IMEI from an ATT branded phone doesn't usually work any more, maybe it used to, years ago.
This is why I won't buy OnePlus phones any more. I love their devices, best bang for the buck on the market, but no amount of my fiddling would get ATT to recognize it and provision VoLTE... so no wifi calling, no HD calling... when you make a call, your data drops to 3G, etc...
My Essential, somehow was on their "BYOD" plan and so it would give me VoLTE and HD calling, but no wifi calling. No wifi calling is stupid, because you aren't using their network at that point, so why should they even care?
SquireSCA said:
The "trick" of giving them an IMEI from an ATT branded phone doesn't usually work any more, maybe it used to, years ago.
This is why I won't buy OnePlus phones any more. I love their devices, best bang for the buck on the market, but no amount of my fiddling would get ATT to recognize it and provision VoLTE... so no wifi calling, no HD calling... when you make a call, your data drops to 3G, etc...
My Essential, somehow was on their "BYOD" plan and so it would give me VoLTE and HD calling, but no wifi calling. No wifi calling is stupid, because you aren't using their network at that point, so why should they even care?
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"maybe it used to, years ago"... That doesn't apply in this context does it as carrier features VOLTE and Wi-Fi calling weren't even in existence years ago. And I'm not sure you have to give them anything. The claim by some is that just provisioning the features with your SIM on a branded device is enough.
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"maybe it used to, years ago"... That doesn't apply in this context does it as carrier features VOLTE and Wi-Fi calling weren't even in existence years ago. And I'm not sure you have to give them anything. The claim by some is that just provisioning the features with your SIM on a branded device is enough.
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And as someone who has repeatedly tried it, it doesn't seem to work. You can give them an IMEI from another phone, but it usually doesn't work. Either the IMEI is "on their list", or from a phone that is on the BYOD list, or it isn't. It's not the phone's fault, it is that AT&T is kinda being dicks about this... They want you to buy their phones, because most people sign a contract to get the cheaper price, or use their NEXT financing to spread the costs out. That creates a barrier to exit for most customers and protects AT&T's revenue stream from monthly invoices.
While bringing your own device makes them just as much money from the monthly bill, it doesn't help them "retain customers by locking them into a contract", so they usually don't give you full functionality...
I have had a working SIM from an ATT branded phone that was properly provisioned, popped it into my other device, and VoLTE went away. I would call them up and give them the IMEI from the phone, or one that I know worked, and still no go. The one exception was the Essential, and that was because for whatever reason, Essential went to the effort to get it on their BYOD list.
Trust me, if it was easy, I would be doing it and buying OnePlus phones exclusively every 6 months and that would be the end of it. LOL
I just got 2 renewed Galaxy S10e phones and they are in use on the Tmobile network right from a factory reset. They were both advertised as Tmobile phones. If you go into the about phone section then software information, all of the android baseband, kernel, build numbers on that screen are the same, except for Service Provider SW ver.
The top line is the same, like its got the same load. The middle version is different and the bottom has 3 Tmobiles vs 2 Tmobiles and a Verizon listing. Question, what is this area of software talking about? And what specifically is different about the one with the 3rd Verizon label? What controls this Service Provider SW ver, how does it get on the phone and why is it different? Could this be a reason why I cannot send pictures over RCS inside of Samsung Messages only one the one phone with the Verizon tag?
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I just got 2 renewed Galaxy S10e phones and they are in use on the Tmobile network right from a factory reset. They were both advertised as Tmobile phones. If you go into the about phone section then software information, all of the android baseband, kernel, build numbers on that screen are the same, except for Service Provider SW ver.
The top line is the same, like its got the same load. The middle version is different and the bottom has 3 Tmobiles vs 2 Tmobiles and a Verizon listing. Question, what is this area of software talking about? And what specifically is different about the one with the 3rd Verizon label? What controls this Service Provider SW ver, how does it get on the phone and why is it different? Could this be a reason why I cannot send pictures over RCS inside of Samsung Messages only one the one phone with the Verizon tag?
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The ones with vzw where originally vzw devices. The new samsungs are preloaded with all carrier software and will personalize based on sim inserted
TheMadScientist said:
The ones with vzw where originally vzw devices. The new samsungs are preloaded with all carrier software and will personalize based on sim inserted
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So, it does not matter that the phone has that last VZW on the CSC? With the Tmobile firmware, does my phone look like a Tmobile device and will get their updates and features? Is there a way to change that last VZW designation?
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So, it does not matter that the phone has that last VZW on the CSC? With the Tmobile firmware, does my phone look like a Tmobile device and will get their updates and features? Is there a way to change that last VZW designation?
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No its to designate the origin. It should boot as tmobile. Should have most of the features. Tmobile is pretty lenient compared to other carriers
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No its to designate the origin. It should boot as tmobile. Should have most of the features. Tmobile is pretty lenient compared to other carriers
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If I use Odin to flash the latest Tmobile firmware, in the CSC field, I can use the HOME_CSC file and the phone will perform an upgrade leaving my phone settings, apps untouched? Do you think that will change the VZW in the original post above over to TMB, or will it only change the first 2 TMBs and leave the 3rd VZW there after the flash? Would using the regular CSC file that wipes the phone change the VZW part?
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If I use Odin to flash the latest Tmobile firmware, in the CSC field, I can use the HOME_CSC file and the phone will perform an upgrade leaving my phone settings, apps untouched? Do you think that will change the VZW in the original post above over to TMB, or will it only change the first 2 TMBs and leave the 3rd VZW there after the flash? Would using the regular CSC file that wipes the phone change the VZW part?
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I'm pretty sure home maintains data. It will leave tmb/tmb/vzw
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I'm pretty sure home maintains data. It will leave tmb/tmb/vzw
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Do you know what would? Again, this is the only thing that I can see that's different that would not allow me to use Tmobiles RCS with Samsung Messages. That, and the fact that that this phone is showing up in Tmobiles web portal as Unknown device. The other phone with all tmb/tmb/tmb in the csc shows up as a proper S10e in Tmobiles system.
I purchased my OnePlus 7 Pro from T-Mobile. I am switching over to AT&T today. My question is, since I am switching to a different carrier, will i still be receiving OTA Updates from T-Mobile since the phone contains their firmware/ROM version of OOS or will the updates be from OnePlus? All this may be moot if I decide to convert over to the international version, but I would still like to know.
You should switch to the international firmware. That way you get "ota" straight from oneplus and also get rid of the T-Mobile bloat thats on the phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/t-mobile-oneplus-7-pro-international-firmware-install/
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You should switch to the international firmware. That way you get "ota" straight from oneplus and also get rid of the T-Mobile bloat thats on the phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/t-mobile-oneplus-7-pro-international-firmware-install/
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I actually already had it converted, then i had to go back to the T-Mobile firmware in order to SIM unlock my phone so I could switch carriers. I was considering staying with the T-Mobile firmware only because it's such a pain in the a$$ to have to install the backup and re-sign in on all my apps, and re-setup the phone. But the advantage of converting to international and getting updates right away is really making me lean towards reinstalling the international firmware. One thing I did notice though was that on the international version my 4G LTE signal lost signal frequently, but once I went back to the T-Mobile firmware I didn't lose signal as much, so I'm not sure what is going on with that. I don't know if anyone else has experienced weaker signal on the international version but it should definitely be addressed because I 100% was getting a weaker signal on the international version, that is part of the reason why I decided to switch to AT&T because I thought my T-Mobile coverage sucked, well it turns out that probably wasn't the case.
I have a TMO S22U and basically I immediately flashed to U1. I'm just curious are there any advantages I'm missing out on being on U1 opposed to T-Mobile U? I know there probably aren't many but I'm just curious.
Some say U1 us better. I'm At&t so probably someone on Tmo will chime in. But for me, U1 offered nothing over U. I mean yes no At&t bloat but I can disable what I don't want on U to get the desired affect.
My biggest thing was the T-Mobile splash screen, it sounds SO DUMB but flashing to U1 made it literally 100% Samsung for me I'm just wondering what could have been lol
The only thing I heard, but I am not certain about is that you lose the TMO visual email capability. Otherwise I have not heard anything else. I am on TMO and I kept mine on U. As butchieboy said, I just disable what I do not want. In all reality, there is not much from TMO that is loaded on the system side. More of the bloat is from Samsung and Google.
Thanks for the speedy replies guys much appreciated
One thing I noticed when I did the same thing, was I could not get 5G Ultra Capacity to work. Not certain I was doing anything wrong, just wouldn't work for me.
I think I read somewhere that you do get it, but there is no icon for it in the U1 image. It will show 4G LTE. Check your download speeds.
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I think I read somewhere that you do get it, but there is no icon for it in the U1 image. It will show 4G LTE. Check your download speeds.
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I did, 2 days apart in the same spot, the icon showed 5G as did the speed test connection type, but the speeds were much slower than 5G UC, almost 400 Mbps difference. Switched the firmware, back to the insane, almost WiFi type speeds.
Did you check the mobile networks setting to make sure 5G is available and selected?
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Did you check the mobile networks setting to make sure 5G is available and selected?
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Yes, that was my first thought. It never quite worked the way I should have.
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The main benefit for me on the unlocked firmware is the built in called id and spam blocking. For att you have to pay extra and tmobile has it on its best plan. But still think it works better than tmobiles implementation. And since i change carriers often i like to always have caller id and spam blocking no matter which one i use.
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My biggest thing was the T-Mobile splash screen, it sounds SO DUMB but flashing to U1 made it literally 100% Samsung for me I'm just wondering what could have been lol
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Can I ask what specific firmware you used to flash to unlocked?
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Can I ask what specific firmware you used to flash to unlocked?
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I downloaded the S980U1UEU1 firmware which on the latest update ends with AVCK. Used Frija to download it
Carrier firmwares usually get updated a week before the u1 series does.
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One thing I noticed when I did the same thing, was I could not get 5G Ultra Capacity to work. Not certain I was doing anything wrong, just wouldn't work for me.
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Would've just been a considence. U1 firmware does connect to 5G UC just look at the service menu and it'll confirm if your connected to N41 or not.
But I moved back from u1 to tmv U firmware due to having weird call /sms issues where it would just stop working and only fix was a reboot. Hasn't happened since switching back to U firmware.
Here's an interesting question..
I was on TMO and I bought a S22U from TMO (unlocked it with them afterwards) and of course it was on 5GUC and everything (I used ESIM). I got another sim (Mint Mobile) and when used as primary it would show 5G+
After a while, and just out of spite of the hideous 4G LTE TMO icon I Flashed the U1 firmware.. I'm no longer using TMO as I ported my number to Mint and it has been good.. Would it make sense to return to TMO U firmware or should I stay in U1 as Im no longer using the TMO sim?
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Here's an interesting question..
I was on TMO and I bought a S22U from TMO (unlocked it with them afterwards) and of course it was on 5GUC and everything (I used ESIM). I got another sim (Mint Mobile) and when used as primary it would show 5G+
After a while, and just out of spite of the hideous 4G LTE TMO icon I Flashed the U1 firmware.. I'm no longer using TMO as I ported my number to Mint and it has been good.. Would it make sense to return to TMO U firmware or should I stay in U1 as Im no longer using the TMO sim?
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Probably fine on U1. You're no longer connecting to anything advantageous besides updates being slightly faster with U.
I'm with T-Mobile, but purchased mine directly from Samsung.. I have the S22 Ultra U1. Since my last phone purchased from T-Mobile A52 5G. biggest change, No daily spam calls or text.. What a difference that makes.. With T-Mobile, their so called Spam blocker was notihng more than a spam attractor. Plus no more of the hidious bloat and splash screen..
I have the unlocked and I dirty flash switch between U and U1 depending on which newest ROM is out. There's absolutely no difference save for the annoying TMOB splash screen and that it says UC ... But from my extensive testing the speeds are the same whether it says 5G on the U1 or 5GUC on the U.