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Hi thinking of getting a z5 or edge plus, the signal strength on the z2/z3 was very poor compared to my old nexus 6 on 3 UK. Whats your opinions? Signal is the main factor for me.
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I had a OnePlus One and a Note 3 before. So far, my Z5 signal quality is a lot better (green and yellow most of the time). With my OnePlus One and Note 3, same usage pattern, it would be red and yellow almost all the time. Nothing scientific here I know, but yeah according to the Battery menu, the Z5 is better than both of these phones I've used
It might be worth noting that manufactures independently determine how many bars are shown in the notification tray. For example, Samsung might display 3 bars at -116 db while HTC only shows 2. If you really want to compare this, you need to have all the phones you want to compare activated on the same carrier at the same time and use the discovery app to see what the raw signal strength (in db) readings are.
Hi guys,
I've had the phone for a couple of days. What bothers me are the fact that as a latest fragship, it cheaps out on bluetooth chip(4.2). Other devices like pixel 2 from last year already start using 5.0. Not that I really need the bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like being cheaped out to. Also no gorilla glass? I'd admit these are very minor "issues". Maybe I'm a bit of a brand whore. I just can't seem to enjoy looking at the ugly logo of the brand inside and out. The phone is from a contract with the carrier and therefore my choices are limited to what they have at this time. LG 7, V30, Pixel 2 XL to name a few. I'm not interested in anything with storage space less than 128GB (I don't like using sd cards, sorry but I think they are inferior), which brings me down pretty much to Pixel 2 XL. Now I notice there are people here who are coming from Pixel 2 to P20 Pro. I'd really like to hear their thought on comparing these two phones from all aspects before making the decision. I'm also open to other suggestions. Would really appreciate the input!
Neil
w2830 said:
Hi guys,
I've had the phone for a couple of days. What bothers me are the fact that as a latest fragship, it cheaps out on bluetooth chip(4.2). Other devices like pixel 2 from last year already start using 5.0. Not that I really need the bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like being cheaped out to. Also no gorilla glass? I'd admit these are very minor "issues". Maybe I'm a bit of a brand whore. I just can't seem to enjoy looking at the ugly logo of the brand inside and out. The phone is from a contract with the carrier and therefore my choices are limited to what they have at this time. LG 7, V30, Pixel 2 XL to name a few. I'm not interested in anything with storage space less than 128GB (I don't like using sd cards, sorry but I think they are inferior), which brings me down pretty much to Pixel 2 XL. Now I notice there are people here who are coming from Pixel 2 to P20 Pro. I'd really like to hear their thought on comparing these two phones from all aspects before making the decision. I'm also open to other suggestions. Would really appreciate the input!
Neil
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I would suggest waiting for Pixel 3 which is due out in October/November as it would be pointless buying it now.
You have described that you require Bluetooth 5.0 (do you have any devices that specifically require it). Bluetooth 4.2 can still be pretty decent as it has low power consumption
P20 Pro does come with gorilla glass
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I would suggest waiting for Pixel 3 which is due out in October/November as it would be pointless buying it now.
You have described that you require Bluetooth 5.0 (do you have any devices that specifically require it). Bluetooth 4.2 can still be pretty decent as it has low power consumption
P20 Pro does come with gorilla glass
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I don't really need the added benefit of the Bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like the fact that they have cheaped out on this comparing samsung has started using 5.0 since s8 and lots of others. It doesn't offer any confidence in this phone when knowing this. Waiting for Pixel 3 is probably is a good idea. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
The phone costs less though so you gotta expect some compromises.
Hell no, from my experience the XL2 runs fast BUT very unstable. Apps especially Google Map can quit while you're driving, or whole system can reboot anytime.
My answer is no, if you want to go down pixel line wait until 3 comes out.
I've owned the nexus range and the pixel xl and was going to get a pixel 2 xl, but they are overpriced for what they are (just like apple) and they are full of bugs just like the XL
Pixel line of phones have long lost there edge compared to the Nexus line.
One plus in my opinion make the best "stock" android phones. Anyway back onto topic.
Gorilla glass Vs the tempered glass on the p20 Pro. Both scartch at a level 6 on the Moe's scale of hardness. So I wouldn't be to concerned
Bluetooth 4.2 Vs 5 can't really see much of a argument in a real life setting to why anyone would need 5 compared to 4.2.
If you can't get a one plus 6 and you have to make the choice like now then it feels your online option is the pixel.
There is no way I'd swap my phone for the px2
Or the XL.
The 3 ? Maybe but I'd have to see it
w2830 said:
Hi guys,
I've had the phone for a couple of days. What bothers me are the fact that as a latest fragship, it cheaps out on bluetooth chip(4.2). Other devices like pixel 2 from last year already start using 5.0. Not that I really need the bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like being cheaped out to. Also no gorilla glass? I'd admit these are very minor "issues". Maybe I'm a bit of a brand whore. I just can't seem to enjoy looking at the ugly logo of the brand inside and out. The phone is from a contract with the carrier and therefore my choices are limited to what they have at this time. LG 7, V30, Pixel 2 XL to name a few. I'm not interested in anything with storage space less than 128GB (I don't like using sd cards, sorry but I think they are inferior), which brings me down pretty much to Pixel 2 XL. Now I notice there are people here who are coming from Pixel 2 to P20 Pro. I'd really like to hear their thought on comparing these two phones from all aspects before making the decision. I'm also open to other suggestions. Would really appreciate the input!
Neil
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am personally let go my pixel 2 xl after having p20 pro.
camera is more versatile. smoothness is comparable. screen color is better for doing graphic works (at least IMO), and this one might surprise you, my apps crash less on this phone than on my pixel 2 xl, and 6GB of ram wont hurt either (disable zRAM to feel the true smoothness of this phone)
now am using p20 pro as main driver and redmi note 5 Ai as secondary phone. saving 400++ bucks by doing so. cant be happier
If I could go back in time, I would keep my Pixel 2 XL. That is not without issues though.
On the Pixel 2 XL, Touchscreen is a bit iffy. Battery life is worse (7 hours SOT over a day as opposed to 9 on the Huawei). Display is a little dark, not enough brightness in sunshine. But, if I could go back, I would keep it.
The Pixel is smoother and faster in apps, scrolling is much quicker, graphics power on the Pixel 2 XL is better, the P20 is quite stuttery and laggy.
But I would stick with the P20 for now.
Pros of switching to Pixel 2 XL:
1. Faster, fluid and cleaner software stock android experience. I used Pixel 2 as a work phone and love the Google experience. People buy Pixel for software and camera
2. Faster update to Android P
3. Snapdragon 835 is faster than Kirin 970, especially GPU
4. Google's camera is much simpler than P20 Pro's
5. Pixel 2 has better Stereo speakers
6. Pixel 2 has Bluetooth 5
Reasons for sticking with P20 Pro:
1. P20 Pro has a much better screen to body ratio, more content on a smaller screen
2. P20 Pro's camera hardware is future proof; amazing night mode, the best in market; P20 Pro is basically a camera phone
3. P20 Pro has a bigger battery and well optimized, resulting in much better battery life
4. P20 Pro's face unlock is more convenient than Pixel 2's rear mounted fingerprint reader
5. Pixel 2 XL's screen quality is inferior to P20 Pro's, which has fantastic AMOLED display
6. P20 Pro is future proof because of 6 GB ram, although Pixel 2 XL works equally well with 4GB ram.
Long story short, P20 Pro has a better hardware, but poor software experience in my opinion. Pixel 2 XL's Google experience is a class of its own. Never got such a fluid experience on any phone ever (Not even on One plus series).
I hope it helps
gautam.malik said:
Pros of switching to Pixel 2 XL:
1. Faster, fluid and cleaner software stock android experience. I used Pixel 2 as a work phone and love the Google experience. People buy Pixel for software and camera
2. Faster update to Android P
3. Snapdragon 835 is faster than Kirin 970, especially GPU
4. Google's camera is much simpler than P20 Pro's
5. Pixel 2 has better Stereo speakers
6. Pixel 2 has Bluetooth 5
Reasons for sticking with P20 Pro:
1. P20 Pro has a much better screen to body ratio, more content on a smaller screen
2. P20 Pro's camera hardware is future proof; amazing night mode, the best in market; P20 Pro is basically a camera phone
3. P20 Pro has a bigger battery and well optimized, resulting in much better battery life
4. P20 Pro's face unlock is more convenient than Pixel 2's rear mounted fingerprint reader
5. Pixel 2 XL's screen quality is inferior to P20 Pro's, which has fantastic AMOLED display
6. P20 Pro is future proof because of 6 GB ram, although Pixel 2 XL works equally well with 4GB ram.
Long story short, P20 Pro has a better hardware, but poor software experience in my opinion. Pixel 2 XL's Google experience is a class of its own. Never got such a fluid experience on any phone ever (Not even on One plus series).
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But software can always be improved, and / or we have Roms.
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But software can always be improved, and / or we have Roms.
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Development hasn't been looking good so far, but i do hope we get some more going eventually. Also, yeah i hope stop EMUI gets improved as well.
If P2XL didn't have the issues with screen I would have probably got it as liked the Pixel XL, but I had the initial issues with the halo when taking photos, I couldn't automatically connect to Bluetooth devices and had to manually switch over. It never 6with wifi calling when switched network as that feature was locked to EE and it same on the Pixel 2.
I have a Huawei Watch and switching over phones lost my data as couldn't be backed up on Pixel phones and Google Fit is more than useless with not keeping GPS data and not showing correctly across devices. Apple, Fitbit, Sony and even Garmin apps better.
Even Huawei Health provides better data than Google Fit just shame it can only be backed up and restored on Huawei devices otherwise u lose all data.
I'm still debating which device to get next and may depend on Watch compatibility.
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Thread from the dead: which phone should I keep?
So I found myself having my P2XL 128gb replaced by Google due to screen burn and a new (refurb) one arrives tomorrow.
In the meantime I had been rolling with a Huawei P20 Pro and it's not bad... Camera IS LOVELY and battery life amazing but I run Rootless Pixel Launcher as I can't stand whatever Huawei call their interface.
So, I can get £300 for my pixel 2 on popular recycling sites or £353 for the Huawei. My buy out on contract is £267.50 so either way I'm quids in.
Now, which one do I keep? It's worth noting my work phone is rolling a P3XL and, to some degree, I need to be in Android Beta Programmes (Q next?) as I'm a dev PM. The P3XL answers this need.
Heart says keep the pixel and flog the Huawei. Head says Huawei mobile the newer model (though not newer handset as, if you remember, just getting a replacement from The Big G).
The pixel FEELS better to me but, as this is my social phone, I'm more concerned with the camera than anything else. Does the P20 Pro triple camera make it worth getting rid of the P2XL? The snail pace of updates to the P20 annoys but thata just me wanting latest and greatest all the time.
Oh, decisions decisions. Either way ONE phone must go tomorrow in the post as I've locked in the prices for both with recyclers.
What would *you* do? Snapper or Pixel?
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So I found myself having my P2XL 128gb replaced by Google due to screen burn and a new (refurb) one arrives tomorrow.
In the meantime I had been rolling with a Huawei P20 Pro and it's not bad... Camera IS LOVELY and battery life amazing but I run Rootless Pixel Launcher as I can't stand whatever Huawei call their interface.
So, I can get £300 for my pixel 2 on popular recycling sites or £353 for the Huawei. My buy out on contract is £267.50 so either way I'm quids in.
Now, which one do I keep? It's worth noting my work phone is rolling a P3XL and, to some degree, I need to be in Android Beta Programmes (Q next?) as I'm a dev PM. The P3XL answers this need.
Heart says keep the pixel and flog the Huawei. Head says Huawei mobile the newer model (though not newer handset as, if you remember, just getting a replacement from The Big G).
The pixel FEELS better to me but, as this is my social phone, I'm more concerned with the camera than anything else. Does the P20 Pro triple camera make it worth getting rid of the P2XL? The snail pace of updates to the P20 annoys but thata just me wanting latest and greatest all the time.
Oh, decisions decisions. Either way ONE phone must go tomorrow in the post as I've locked in the prices for both with recyclers.
What would *you* do? Snapper or Pixel?
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Do not get rid of the P2xl because of the triple camera on the P20 Pro. The pixel is still the better all round camera regardless, and with its own new night sight mode, it just got even better.
Keep the pixel
Is it though, Patchy? I took an awesome shot on holiday where you could see Saturn and the P20 picked it out.
Ugh. I'm so conflicted!
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Is it though, Patchy? I took an awesome shot on holiday where you could see Saturn and the P20 picked it out.
Ugh. I'm so conflicted!
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I have both phones. It comes to preference, but yeah I find the Pixel always takes nicer photos. Way more consistent. Your call man.
i traded my pixel 2 xl because i was bored with stock android and the ram management was crap . portrait mode was better on pixel 2 xl. But i love the p20 pro for when zooming in pics the pics are still amazingly sharp
Hey guys, what are your thoughts about this phone? I have bought one last week, my previously phone was a one plus 3t (quite old).
I think it was a nice upgrade, very snappy, câmera is good, and the price is on point.
I read about the screen being way worst comparing to the OLED, but i think is okay, colours and brightness wise.
I dont know how to feel about the MIUI interface since i come from oxygenOS, also phone is a bit on the heavy side and the back vibrates a lot when the volume is mid/high.
How has been your experiences?
Can anyone check the sensors on the X3 PRO?
F3 is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachments/screenshot_2021-05-29-10-06-24-239_ru-andr7e-deviceinfohw-jpg.5323087/
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Can anyone check the sensors on the X3 PRO?
F3 is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachments/screenshot_2021-05-29-10-06-24-239_ru-andr7e-deviceinfohw-jpg.5323087/
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Please go here for what you need.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/camera-sensor-id.4265251/post-84879149
rafa_apmm said:
Hey guys, what are your thoughts about this phone? I have bought one last week, my previously phone was a one plus 3t (quite old).
I think it was a nice upgrade, very snappy, câmera is good, and the price is on point.
I read about the screen being way worst comparing to the OLED, but i think is okay, colours and brightness wise.
I dont know how to feel about the MIUI interface since i come from oxygenOS, also phone is a bit on the heavy side and the back vibrates a lot when the volume is mid/high.
How has been your experiences?
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Well, to be honest, I am dissapointed with the phone. I upgraded from Redmi Note 7 Pro and the only thing Poco has better is the performance and dual speakers. Everything is super smooth and snappy. The screen, besides having 120Hz refresh rate is no different than redmi notes' screen. And that is about it. Everything else is not even as good as on Redmi Note 7 Pro. The camera on my redmi note takes noticeably better pictures. The audio quality (in-call and media) is also noticeably better on my redmi note. Even though Poco has larger battery (5160 vs 4000 mAh) usage time is about the same. Plus, poco is a very thiccc phone... So, two years between phones and only the performance is an upgrade, everything else is basically a downgrade. I wish i bought Redmi Note 10 Pro, but that phone is almost 100 EUR more expensive here.
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Well, to be honest, I am dissapointed with the phone. I upgraded from Redmi Note 7 Pro and the only thing Poco has better is the performance and dual speakers. Everything is super smooth and snappy. The screen, besides having 120Hz refresh rate is no different than redmi notes' screen. And that is about it. Everything else is not even as good as on Redmi Note 7 Pro. The camera on my redmi note takes noticeably better pictures. The audio quality (in-call and media) is also noticeably better on my redmi note. Even though Poco has larger battery (5160 vs 4000 mAh) usage time is about the same. Plus, poco is a very thiccc phone... So, two years between phones and only the performance is an upgrade, everything else is basically a downgrade. I wish i bought Redmi Note 10 Pro, but that phone is almost 100 EUR more expensive here.
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Yeah, the very notable difference for this phone is it's cheap price for it's spec.
For some people, 3.5mm jack together with microSD is better.
And something different from the Redmi Note 7 Pro that you didn't told is the UFS 3.1 internal storage. This makes read/write very fast. So for photos and games, it's faster. That's also the reason other than the SOC that makes it very smooth and snappy.
I had a Nokia 7 Plus for about two years before and the X3 Pro is a rocket by comparison. I also thought about getting the Note 10 Pro for a while, but the "bad" SoC put me off. OLED is of course nice to have, but without a real always-on display it is of little use in my opinion. In any case, I am more than satisfied with the X3 Pro in all respects. MIUI and all the bloatware is an evil abomination if you were only used to Vanilla Android before, but thanks to ADB you can fix a lot.
I switched from Moto G5 Plus and I find this phone much better in almost every aspect, except size
I don't care much about photo quality, they are good enough for me.
Screen seems to be dimmer than on my old Moto. Colors are ok, I like that it supports reading mode without relying on third party apps. I don't need smooth animations so 60Hz is enough for me.
Storage - I had to buy model with bigger storage as I need dual sim active all the time.
Audio quality on headphones (cable and BT) is very good.
Battery (after playing with location settings to stop drain) life is satisfying. Charging is super fast.
Performance - I don't play games that requires all that power so for every day use I find it outstanding.
Ocassionally I need to calibrate location (?) sensors in some apps, might need to find more permanent solution.
So I was looking into a new phone I could buy new, had a headphone jack and telephoto lens, and maybe stereo speakers, and came across this phone.
I noticed that the Edge has weekly lineageOS builds too, so I was wondering how is the phone 2 years after release?
- Does performance degrade significantly when on ROMs?
- How is battery life?
- How's the camera, and is there a gcam apk that can use all the lenses?
- what features would I lose if ROM'd the device, and is their any ways to reinstall them or get mods (like thru magisk) to get them back?
For context, I'm coming from a Pixel 3a, and cross shopping with an S10/+/5g and an A72 (4g)
Old thread but for anyone else looking to buy in 2023, as it's cheaper than budget phones brand new:
- LineageOS is noticeably smoother than the stock ROM, whether that's actual performance or just animations is hard to say since it's Android 11 vs 13 (LOS 20.0), but I've never had any slowdowns at all really. Phone is very daily-able
- Battery is good, no problem lasting all day with moderate use; you'd have to try pretty hard to kill it all in 1 day.
- Camera goes back and forth between great and mediocre depending on what you're shooting. The 64MB lens is hit or miss; Wide-angle and macros are great, overall colors look close to RAW so not a lot of fake saturation which is either good or bad depending on what you want. I've only tried one Gcam on stock A11 and I'm pretty sure all the cameras worked, but that same build crashes on A13/LOS20. I haven't tried any others since Moto cam is fine for me.
- Lineage for this phone uses the stock Moto camera app & ports all Moto Actions such as flashlight chop/etc., so you really don't lose anything except edge display customization, but that's pretty easy to live without IMO.
I was trying to buy a new S20 and root it, but when the "brand new" one I ordered was updated past bootloader unlock eligibility, I went for one of these (saved $100-200) and I plan on using it for another 1-2 years, and then I think I'll keep it as a backup/music phone.
It's Achilles heel is definitely the screen, the green tint artifacts are truly terrible but only on certain shades of grey - and if you use substratum to make everything AMOLED black, you will never notice it (apart from when a video has those certain colors of grey).
Hello
I'm interested in buying this phone. I plan to import it from china but have many questions if anyone is kind enough to help:
1. How will network connectivity be in the UK? I'm on EE & only really use 3g & 4g. I don't use 5g. Is signal strength strong? Data speeds fast?
2. How is the overall camera experience? YouTube & online reviews are giving mixed opinions. Some are saying the colour is off, some are saying it's perfect & the best camera phone atm.
3. Is the front camera really bad? I know it doesn't have 4k which is actually ridiculous considering this is a high end device, but, how's the overall performance of the front camera?
4. How is the battery life? Especially when compared to the likes of s22 ultra, mi11 ultra, vivo x80 Pro etc?
5. Have Xiaomi released any significant updates for the 12s Ultra? Any updates that have made the experience better, whether it's for battery life, performance or camera?
6. As the 12s ultra is a china only device, does Google services work properly? Do notifications work properly? Banking apps? I don't use Android auto so not fussed about that. Are there any services/apps that won't work in the UK on this phone? Or does Google services run perfectly?
7. Are you happy with your 12s ultra? If you could swap your 12s ultra for any other phone of the same value, would you do it or would you say that for the price range, the 12s ultra is the best in it's class?
Finally, am I better off getting the 11 ultra or waiting for the Xiaomi 13 or just going for the 12s ultra? I heard that the 11 ultra has horrible battery life, is this true or have recent updates made the 11 ultra battery life better ?
I'll try to give you a complete answer as I can I have this phone since last month, I live in Israel and I use 5G but 5G here is awful in my area (same speed as 4G) even though I have a 5G plan but that is a different conversation,
I have the Verdant Green 12/512 Version I bought it for $1225 from Aliexpress:
1). I don't live in the UK so I cannot say, here the signal is good, even on 4g and 3g (there is no 2g in my carrier so I can't test that), I do have an issue of calls suddenly dropping for no reason (bug in software I assume)
2). The main camera is awesome, the camera experience is super fast and launches very very quickly and snaps shots very fast, also the camera is very detailed, the ultrawide and telephoto are of a lesser sensor and quality is lower obviously, if you don't mind the quality difference between all 3 then it is great camera, front camera is decent too
3), The camera is decent, does the job, yeah it's max 1080p30fs but it's enough for video calls and still selfie (most use of selfie camera), unless you are a phone vlogger you won't mind the resolution and quality
4). Battery life is great for android flagship type phone, why I write android flagship type phone? since there are tiers in phones with different battery life between all of them, iPhone 13 pro max for example is killing with battery life compared to android flagships, only android Midrangers can compete with iPhone 13 pro max, if you come from android flagships you will be satisfied, if you come from recent android Midranger or lower tier, the battery life is worse, to be expected since this chipset is very powerful but also power hungry, I have the mi 11 ultra before this phone, it was decent with battery life and not too good, the reason is the 120hz screen was very power hungry and 888 chipset not efficient,
5). As of writing, I am using latest stable version 13.0.7 and it has issues, camera sometimes laggs a tiny bit when opening, caller id doesn't always work, and even saved contacts show up as numbers, keyboard gets reset to chinese keyboard with every reboot, developer settings get reset with reboot, wireless charging is limited to around ~20w and doesn't work with 50w wireless car charger pro (I have official 80w, 100w desktop chargers and 50w wireless car charger and all don't work well with this phone and they work perfect with mi 11 ultra)
6). Google is available but there are location issues in GPS sometimes, Google Pay doesn't work at all for me personally some had it work, I couldn't, google location history is not working sometimes, issues here and there
7). I am currently okay and a bit happy with the phone due to the above issues, is it perfect? no, is any phone perfect? also no, this is a china import and you need to know what you are doing in order to use it, I plan to unlock bootloader and flash Xiaomi EU rom to fix all these issues above, it should all be fixed with a custom rom that adjusts the OS to locations outside of china and with full google support, I would not swap the phone since it is very good, just needs more fixing of the above.
The Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra can be bought for less but you have many more issues with it, the phone drains faster and overheats allot, it has proximity sensor issues so taking calls using earpiece and listening to voice messages is a pain, the 888 chipsets is a mess of overheating and battery draining, you will lose battery fast even with basic use, and video calls for long make the phone lag and very hot, I would totally not recommend the mi 11 ultra over the 12s ultra since they fixed all these issues with the 12s ultra,
Basically if you don't like messing around with phones don't get this phone since you will have to do tinkering with it to fix the issues, if you don't mind tinkering like I do it's a great phone and very good competition wise, it has great cameras too, and battery life is wonderful,
I would give it a 9/10, and I only lower its score due to the software issues stated above, after flashing a custom rom and fixing the issues above the rom will be better and it will be a 10/10 in my opinion,
this phone is an ultra phone it focuses on camera, chipset, screen and overall quality and it nails all those points great! I would totally recommend it to phone tinkerers
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I'll try to give you a complete answer as I can I have this phone since last month, I live in Israel and I use 5G but 5G here is awful in my area (same speed as 4G) even though I have a 5G plan but that is a different conversation,
I have the Verdant Green 12/512 Version I bought it for $1225 from Aliexpress:
1). I don't live in the UK so I cannot say, here the signal is good, even on 4g and 3g (there is no 2g in my carrier so I can't test that), I do have an issue of calls suddenly dropping for no reason (bug in software I assume)
2). The main camera is awesome, the camera experience is super fast and launches very very quickly and snaps shots very fast, also the camera is very detailed, the ultrawide and telephoto are of a lesser sensor and quality is lower obviously, if you don't mind the quality difference between all 3 then it is great camera, front camera is decent too
3), The camera is decent, does the job, yeah it's max 1080p30fs but it's enough for video calls and still selfie (most use of selfie camera), unless you are a phone vlogger you won't mind the resolution and quality
4). Battery life is great for android flagship type phone, why I write android flagship type phone? since there are tiers in phones with different battery life between all of them, iPhone 13 pro max for example is killing with battery life compared to android flagships, only android Midrangers can compete with iPhone 13 pro max, if you come from android flagships you will be satisfied, if you come from recent android Midranger or lower tier, the battery life is worse, to be expected since this chipset is very powerful but also power hungry, I have the mi 11 ultra before this phone, it was decent with battery life and not too good, the reason is the 120hz screen was very power hungry and 888 chipset not efficient,
5). As of writing, I am using latest stable version 13.0.7 and it has issues, camera sometimes laggs a tiny bit when opening, caller id doesn't always work, and even saved contacts show up as numbers, keyboard gets reset to chinese keyboard with every reboot, developer settings get reset with reboot, wireless charging is limited to around ~20w and doesn't work with 50w wireless car charger pro (I have official 80w, 100w desktop chargers and 50w wireless car charger and all don't work well with this phone and they work perfect with mi 11 ultra)
6). Google is available but there are location issues in GPS sometimes, Google Pay doesn't work at all for me personally some had it work, I couldn't, google location history is not working sometimes, issues here and there
7). I am currently okay and a bit happy with the phone due to the above issues, is it perfect? no, is any phone perfect? also no, this is a china import and you need to know what you are doing in order to use it, I plan to unlock bootloader and flash Xiaomi EU rom to fix all these issues above, it should all be fixed with a custom rom that adjusts the OS to locations outside of china and with full google support, I would not swap the phone since it is very good, just needs more fixing of the above.
The Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra can be bought for less but you have many more issues with it, the phone drains faster and overheats allot, it has proximity sensor issues so taking calls using earpiece and listening to voice messages is a pain, the 888 chipsets is a mess of overheating and battery draining, you will lose battery fast even with basic use, and video calls for long make the phone lag and very hot, I would totally not recommend the mi 11 ultra over the 12s ultra since they fixed all these issues with the 12s ultra,
Basically if you don't like messing around with phones don't get this phone since you will have to do tinkering with it to fix the issues, if you don't mind tinkering like I do it's a great phone and very good competition wise, it has great cameras too, and battery life is wonderful,
I would give it a 9/10, and I only lower its score due to the software issues stated above, after flashing a custom rom and fixing the issues above the rom will be better and it will be a 10/10 in my opinion,
this phone is an ultra phone it focuses on camera, chipset, screen and overall quality and it nails all those points great! I would totally recommend it to phone tinkerers
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Thank you very much for this detailed reply. I will hold off from buying it until the eu ROM is out. Can you please update your experience on here once you've flashed the EU ROM?
My opinion. I did cleared cache and data of System launcher and after restart developer mode still stays with 13.0.7 MIUI. Need to clear AOD cache and data to have notification on AOD and lock screen.
I had before Samsung S8 Active, Gsmarena says 111hours of battery juice, no way. Ultra 12s is two times more efficent with everything on performance and max.
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Thank you very much for this detailed reply. I will hold off from buying it until the eu ROM is out. Can you please update your experience on here once you've flashed the EU ROM?
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hi, sorry for late reply, sure I can update, currently on 13.0.8 (latest stable as of writing) phone is working great for the most part, but only xiaomi eu rom will fix all these issues
Hi, I have both the 12s Ultra and Mi 11 Ultra.
Color balance is better on 12S Ultra but to my dissappointment the Mi 11 Ultra has a better camera. Big surprise to me but how much I WANT the 12S to take better pictures that is not the case.
Having a hard time deciding if I shall sell it or if I shall keep it and hope that they will fix it in future SW releases.
It should win hands down when they bring their c2 chip online. Let's hope it's not too long.