Pros and cons of opting for a OP8T KB2007 Tmo version vs KB2005 to root? - OnePlus 8T Questions & Answers

Hey guys so I'm new to rooting and have spent weeks doing my homework to decide what phone to purchase to root to balance price/specs and rooting difficulty/obstacles, I landed on Oneplus phones for the price to performance and their rep for being fairly straightforward to root with no notorious/obscure obstacles.
I ended up finding an unlocked Oneplus 8T KB2007 Tmo version brand new for $300 and thought the price for the specs was a really great deal, however reading into the XDA guides for rooting the TMO version I discovered the obstacles that KB2007 owners have to overcome with requesting and waiting on the boot loader unlock pin from oneplus, as well as stock images being notoriously hard to come by online (Though I did manage to find guides on how to pull my own stock image without root and seems to work for KB2007 owners)
My main question is, for any rooted kb2007 owners here, is there any general obstacles/headaches/potential issues or tips in either rooting the TMO version as well as general operation of the rooted model after that I should be aware of ? Do any of you regret not going for the KB2005 for a particular reason? Any help would be appreciated , The price and specs are so ideal for me but I'm really worried there might end up being more problems than it's worth

If you want to use OxygenOS, TMO updates very slow and only has a single sim slot.
But with enough skills you can bake newer global kb2005 firmware into your kb2007 and enable dual sim at home.
If you plan to use custom roms like LineagsOS, you should concern about basebands:
OnePlus 8T (T-Mobile US) (KB2007) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for OnePlus 8T (T-Mobile US) (KB2007)
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Kb2005 and kb2007 have different 4G & 5G basebands. Kb2007 support more 4G bands.
As for root, since your kb2007 is fully unlocked, nothing differs or matters about root.

And, check your ufs version and memory version.
My kb2007 has ufs 3.0 and lpddr4.
Some device randomly has ufs 3.1 or lpddr5, which gives slightly performance upgrade.

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New here.

Hi,
I'm sorry if I overlooked a similar thread, but I'm looking in to buying a galaxy s7 and I wanted to buy one that has an unlocked bootloader and will work with USA metro pcs. is there such phone? lol I've heard usa s7's don't unlock. just wondering.
The Exynos models G930F/G930FD/G930W8, and the hong kong snapdragon model are the only ones can be bootloader unlocked
They will work in the USA, but the USA uses different network carrier standards than the rest of the world, so your connectivity won't be as good as using a USA specific device. You may also lack carrier features like VoLTE.
Thanks! Are the s8's like this as well? I'm trying to figure out if I want a 7 or 8. is there much difference between the phones?
Same for S8 through to S10. International gets unlockable Exynos, USA gets locked Snapdragon, HK gets unlockable Snapdragon.
Main difference would be the bump in specs and build. S7 also won't get official Android Pie, I believe the S8 will/has.
S8's were also a bit unique in that unlocking the Exynos bootloader is harder on them but still possible, S9 and S10 went back to easy as far as I'm aware.

Will Tmobile/other version work on Verizon? Or stick to gm1917

Hi, I want to get a 7 Pro to replace my Mi Mix running AICP on Verizon in the USA. I'm wondering which model(s) will work, and if any versions will have a more reduced capability on Verizon. I do not have 5g, and don't think I will while I have this phone.
Will only gm1917 work?
I couldn't find anything about people using the gm1915 tmobile 7 Pro on verizon network. I'm wondering if it's a bad idea to buy a tmobile version (used, might save a little money or find a good price quicker). Any idea if converting tmobile > international version would work also?
A lot of ebay sellers do not list the model #, or say whether tmobile or whatever. I'm a little worried about receiving something not gm1917
I want 8gb or 12gb + 256gb.
gm1917 north america
gm1915 tmobile
gm1920 5g Europe
gm1925 5g Sprint (I don't need 5g)
I read about the other 7 Pro + Verizon quirks: wifi calling, might need to troubleshoot CDMAless, etc. That seems fine, I'm willing to do some work to get it rooted, rom'd, & running. I love the Mi Mix + AICP, if I could upgrade the camera I'd keep it. If you've got any other advice, please lmk.
Thank you for all the help on the excellent forums
pfdeadpool said:
Hi, I want to get a 7 Pro to replace my Mi Mix running AICP on Verizon in the USA. I'm wondering which model(s) will work, and if any versions will have a more reduced capability on Verizon. I do not have 5g, and don't think I will while I have this phone.
Will only gm1917 work?
I couldn't find anything about people using the gm1915 tmobile 7 Pro on verizon network. I'm wondering if it's a bad idea to buy a tmobile version (used, might save a little money or find a good price quicker). Any idea if converting tmobile > international version would work also?
A lot of ebay sellers do not list the model #, or say whether tmobile or whatever. I'm a little worried about receiving something not gm1917
I want 8gb or 12gb + 256gb.
gm1917 north america
gm1915 tmobile
gm1920 5g Europe
gm1925 5g Sprint (I don't need 5g)
I read about the other 7 Pro + Verizon quirks: wifi calling, might need to troubleshoot CDMAless, etc. That seems fine, I'm willing to do some work to get it rooted, rom'd, & running. I love the Mi Mix + AICP, if I could upgrade the camera I'd keep it. If you've got any other advice, please lmk.
Thank you for all the help on the excellent forums
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T-Mobile will work. Updates are slow.
I have the GM1917
Since your with Verizon I would go with the 1917 version. I don't know about TMobile but I have the 1910 and has Verizon's main bands and you can talk and use data and send a text but won't receive a text back. I went through this scenario with verizons rep and made sure cdma less feature was on and just would not work. You can try with the TMobile but it's less of a headache and time if you just get the 1917.

Should I get the OnePlus 7T T-Mobile or 7 Pro for best root experience / custom ROMs?

Hello all,
I'm on T-Mobile and trying to get away from the hell that is Samsung. I'm looking at OnePlus 7T T-Mobile, or 7 Pro.
It looks like the "root community" is more active on 7 Pro, and my fear is that the "7T T-Mobile" will give me trouble when unlocking bootloader and installing custom ROMs.
7 Pro seems to be very close in specs and has just looking at the ROMs section here makes it look like it has a more active community.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you.
If you mean 7 Pro (non carrier variant) then definitely go for it.
Not because there is more development, but also because I'd avoid any carrier variant of any phone.
If push comes to shove, you can always convert the TMO version to international. Easy and works like a charm.
Go for 7 Pro. Nothing beats the no notch full screen!!
Coming back to OnePlus with a OP 7 Pro from a Galaxy S10+ and I highly agree with the above statements. No carrier phones, OnePlus 7 Pro for the win!
Greatness83 said:
If push comes to shove, you can always convert the TMO version to international. Easy and works like a charm.
Go for 7 Pro. Nothing beats the no notch full screen!!
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Can you explain this a little? I'm actually looking at the 7 Pro on Swappa and the price difference from the TMobile version to the unlocked version is pretty significant. If I buy one that says T-Mobile unlocked, am I to assume it is sim-unlocked and can be converted?
I would only recommend doing so if and only if you are familiar with flashing rom/twrp/root and know what you are doing. If you have decided to buy a T-Mobile model, just make sure that it is fully network unlocked (you can test it with other carriers sim) and do the conversion first then unlock bootloader using the international model version method. I myself bought a refurbished T-Mobile version of oneplus 7pro for quite cheap and converted it to the international version. It has since then became an international model without any drawbacks. Dual sims is working, all custom roms are working and every mods that works on the global model will work on the T-Mobile converted model. The best part is after you convert to global, it will always stay global no matter which roms you flashed unless you revert it back.
mbarry55 said:
Can you explain this a little? I'm actually looking at the 7 Pro on Swappa and the price difference from the TMobile version to the unlocked version is pretty significant. If I buy one that says T-Mobile unlocked, am I to assume it is sim-unlocked and can be converted?
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Pretty much..I would check first before you decide to keep it. Also with the branded phones I would make sure it's not still under contract, stolen or not paid off. Something to think about
Also what the guy above me said is pretty much what I was going to say
The 7T Pro doesn't have a TWRP that can flash to the system. So you're stuck with using fastboot to flash ROMs. If you don't wanna do that, buy a 7 Pro
pro_granade said:
The 7T Pro doesn't have a TWRP that can flash to the system. So you're stuck with using fastboot to flash ROMs. If you don't wanna do that, buy a 7 Pro
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Yes it does
Greatness83 said:
Yes it does
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At least not the safe official one
https://forum.xda-developers.com/7t-pro/development/recovery-unofficial-twrp-recovery-t3989333
loofn said:
I would only recommend doing so if and only if you are familiar with flashing rom/twrp/root and know what you are doing. If you have decided to buy a T-Mobile model, just make sure that it is fully network unlocked (you can test it with other carriers sim) and do the conversion first then unlock bootloader using the international model version method. I myself bought a refurbished T-Mobile version of oneplus 7pro for quite cheap and converted it to the international version. It has since then became an international model without any drawbacks. Dual sims is working, all custom roms are working and every mods that works on the global model will work on the T-Mobile converted model. The best part is after you convert to global, it will always stay global no matter which roms you flashed unless you revert it back.
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Yes I've been flashing since the original Droid. Haven't had a phone I could flash since my pixel xl though. I'll make sure and get an unlocked t-mobile phone. There are no limitations after the conversion? I feel like I was reading people who converted the 6T had issues with safetynet and nfc payments. All clear here?
Thanks guys. Got a sim unlocked t-mobile 7 pro coming from swappa.

EU model on Verizon?

Hey guys I just bought a OnePlus 8 off Amazon to replace my Pixel 2 XL. However today I noticed it's the EU model IN2013, NA is IN2015, I already knew not to buy IN2010 the Chinese version however I didn't know the US unlocked was a different model because nowhere I looked online mentioned it. I looked at the LTE bands before purchasing it and saw it supports all of Verizons bands (especially the critical band 13) so in theory it should still work right? My fear is when I give them the IMEI to enable CDMA Less on my line they will notice its an EU model that's "not approved on their network" and thus that will prevent it from working even though it supports all their bands.
Now to answer some questions:
Why did I buy this from Amazon instead of OnePlus?
Because it was $100 cheaper and the only way to get the Onyx Black color
Why didn't I buy the Verizon version?
Because it's $100 more expensive than the unlocked and it has a locked bootloader like all of Verizons phones
3mutts said:
Hey guys I just bought a OnePlus 8 off Amazon to replace my Pixel 2 XL. However today I noticed it's the EU model IN2013, NA is IN2015, I already knew not to buy IN2010 the Chinese version
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Because it's $100 more expensive than the unlocked and it has a locked bootloader like all of Verizons phones
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Hi,
I don't think they won't approve your device. I'm living in France so I don't know much about the Verizon Politics about that. But if they have common sense, they won't refuse just because it's not one of their devices, they may lose a lot of customers if they did so. There's a Verizon model to support their 5G, but for LTE it's all good.
In France, no carrier would dare doing that, because everybody buys their phones on internet, already unlocked and stuff...
There's a huge competition between carrier so they won't dare to be so restrictive on who can use their network or not. It'd be like "if you want to give me money, you have to pay me at least 600$+60$/month, who do you think I am, I'm not accepting just 60$ every single month", that makes no sense, only Karens thinks like that.
So LTE is cool, but I can't say that for the Verizon 5G
Hope this helped
I already knew 5g wasnt going to work but I don't care because Verizon uses mmwave 5g and that's not coming to my area any time soon. I just want to make 100% sure LTE works, right now I'm 90% sure but that IMEI thing has me worried, Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (absolute BS imo, if it supports all your bands it should just work). I don't know if they support only the American OnePlus 8 (IN2015) if so that would suck because hardware wise the IN2015 and IN2013 are virtually identical from what I could find with only a few bands missing from the IN2013 but they don't matter for Verizon

Oneplus 8T - Swapping components between KB2007 & KB2000

Hi,
Mistakenly I ordered this OnePlus 8T (KB2007) through eBay which is locked to T mobile US. In my country T-Mobile network is not available. Now I got a lead to this OnePlus 8T (KB2000 global version) with a display issue (other than the display issue all other functions are working well in that phone). And I can get it for a very fair deal.
What I am thinking is to get this phone (KB2000) and swap its inside parts with my OnePlus 8T (KB2007). So I just need the 'display and the housing' of the KB2007 to be compatible with the other components of KB2000 (both phones exactly same 12 Gb RAM, 256 Storage 5G version)
I just want to know whether this is technically feasible?
Because I still need to pay and buy that KB2000 from this local seller. If the components are not compatible and can not be swapped with my phone the money spent will be a waste. So before buying I need to make sure whether it is compatible.
All your support is warmly welcome !
Bump !
Nobody willing to help ???

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