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Anybody holding off for the oneplus 7pro 5g instead of the standard 7 pro?

Personally I thought about it and decided not too especially because the x50 modem is first gen. A second gen x55 5g modem planned for phones later this year. Just wanted to get some opinions now that its being released what do people think of their current purchase.

TBH, I thought about holding off, but then the thought of 5G not being everywhere anyway turned me back on ordering a 7PRO again. So far it's been amazing. When 5G comes out I'll just see about it then. I'm interested on the pricing and the T-mobile support.

Only difference being the faster speeds... Its not like we struggling on a current 4g streaming YouTube or Netflix....

I'm good with this badboy here and now! Cheers

I hope I'm wrong, but from what I have read, the 7 Pro 5G is being released only on UK carrier EE because it will only work on their frequencies, which are different than those in the US.

The 5g version won't be compatible with Verizon's 5g I think
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With huawei being banned here, i think 5g will be postponed if not, im pretty sure it will affect the timeline.

Should I get the OnePlus 7T T-Mobile or 7 Pro for best root experience / custom ROMs?

Hello all,
I'm on T-Mobile and trying to get away from the hell that is Samsung. I'm looking at OnePlus 7T T-Mobile, or 7 Pro.
It looks like the "root community" is more active on 7 Pro, and my fear is that the "7T T-Mobile" will give me trouble when unlocking bootloader and installing custom ROMs.
7 Pro seems to be very close in specs and has just looking at the ROMs section here makes it look like it has a more active community.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you.

If you mean 7 Pro (non carrier variant) then definitely go for it.
Not because there is more development, but also because I'd avoid any carrier variant of any phone.

If push comes to shove, you can always convert the TMO version to international. Easy and works like a charm.
Go for 7 Pro. Nothing beats the no notch full screen!!

Coming back to OnePlus with a OP 7 Pro from a Galaxy S10+ and I highly agree with the above statements. No carrier phones, OnePlus 7 Pro for the win!

Greatness83 said:
If push comes to shove, you can always convert the TMO version to international. Easy and works like a charm.
Go for 7 Pro. Nothing beats the no notch full screen!!
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Can you explain this a little? I'm actually looking at the 7 Pro on Swappa and the price difference from the TMobile version to the unlocked version is pretty significant. If I buy one that says T-Mobile unlocked, am I to assume it is sim-unlocked and can be converted?

I would only recommend doing so if and only if you are familiar with flashing rom/twrp/root and know what you are doing. If you have decided to buy a T-Mobile model, just make sure that it is fully network unlocked (you can test it with other carriers sim) and do the conversion first then unlock bootloader using the international model version method. I myself bought a refurbished T-Mobile version of oneplus 7pro for quite cheap and converted it to the international version. It has since then became an international model without any drawbacks. Dual sims is working, all custom roms are working and every mods that works on the global model will work on the T-Mobile converted model. The best part is after you convert to global, it will always stay global no matter which roms you flashed unless you revert it back.

mbarry55 said:
Can you explain this a little? I'm actually looking at the 7 Pro on Swappa and the price difference from the TMobile version to the unlocked version is pretty significant. If I buy one that says T-Mobile unlocked, am I to assume it is sim-unlocked and can be converted?
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Pretty much..I would check first before you decide to keep it. Also with the branded phones I would make sure it's not still under contract, stolen or not paid off. Something to think about
Also what the guy above me said is pretty much what I was going to say

The 7T Pro doesn't have a TWRP that can flash to the system. So you're stuck with using fastboot to flash ROMs. If you don't wanna do that, buy a 7 Pro

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The 7T Pro doesn't have a TWRP that can flash to the system. So you're stuck with using fastboot to flash ROMs. If you don't wanna do that, buy a 7 Pro
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Yes it does

Greatness83 said:
Yes it does
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At least not the safe official one
https://forum.xda-developers.com/7t-pro/development/recovery-unofficial-twrp-recovery-t3989333

loofn said:
I would only recommend doing so if and only if you are familiar with flashing rom/twrp/root and know what you are doing. If you have decided to buy a T-Mobile model, just make sure that it is fully network unlocked (you can test it with other carriers sim) and do the conversion first then unlock bootloader using the international model version method. I myself bought a refurbished T-Mobile version of oneplus 7pro for quite cheap and converted it to the international version. It has since then became an international model without any drawbacks. Dual sims is working, all custom roms are working and every mods that works on the global model will work on the T-Mobile converted model. The best part is after you convert to global, it will always stay global no matter which roms you flashed unless you revert it back.
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Yes I've been flashing since the original Droid. Haven't had a phone I could flash since my pixel xl though. I'll make sure and get an unlocked t-mobile phone. There are no limitations after the conversion? I feel like I was reading people who converted the 6T had issues with safetynet and nfc payments. All clear here?

Thanks guys. Got a sim unlocked t-mobile 7 pro coming from swappa.

EU model on Verizon?

Hey guys I just bought a OnePlus 8 off Amazon to replace my Pixel 2 XL. However today I noticed it's the EU model IN2013, NA is IN2015, I already knew not to buy IN2010 the Chinese version however I didn't know the US unlocked was a different model because nowhere I looked online mentioned it. I looked at the LTE bands before purchasing it and saw it supports all of Verizons bands (especially the critical band 13) so in theory it should still work right? My fear is when I give them the IMEI to enable CDMA Less on my line they will notice its an EU model that's "not approved on their network" and thus that will prevent it from working even though it supports all their bands.
Now to answer some questions:
Why did I buy this from Amazon instead of OnePlus?
Because it was $100 cheaper and the only way to get the Onyx Black color
Why didn't I buy the Verizon version?
Because it's $100 more expensive than the unlocked and it has a locked bootloader like all of Verizons phones

3mutts said:
Hey guys I just bought a OnePlus 8 off Amazon to replace my Pixel 2 XL. However today I noticed it's the EU model IN2013, NA is IN2015, I already knew not to buy IN2010 the Chinese version
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Because it's $100 more expensive than the unlocked and it has a locked bootloader like all of Verizons phones
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Hi,
I don't think they won't approve your device. I'm living in France so I don't know much about the Verizon Politics about that. But if they have common sense, they won't refuse just because it's not one of their devices, they may lose a lot of customers if they did so. There's a Verizon model to support their 5G, but for LTE it's all good.
In France, no carrier would dare doing that, because everybody buys their phones on internet, already unlocked and stuff...
There's a huge competition between carrier so they won't dare to be so restrictive on who can use their network or not. It'd be like "if you want to give me money, you have to pay me at least 600$+60$/month, who do you think I am, I'm not accepting just 60$ every single month", that makes no sense, only Karens thinks like that.
So LTE is cool, but I can't say that for the Verizon 5G
Hope this helped

I already knew 5g wasnt going to work but I don't care because Verizon uses mmwave 5g and that's not coming to my area any time soon. I just want to make 100% sure LTE works, right now I'm 90% sure but that IMEI thing has me worried, Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (absolute BS imo, if it supports all your bands it should just work). I don't know if they support only the American OnePlus 8 (IN2015) if so that would suck because hardware wise the IN2015 and IN2013 are virtually identical from what I could find with only a few bands missing from the IN2013 but they don't matter for Verizon

Motorola One 5g Ace - retail unlocked, on Verizon?

Verizon will sell you a somewhat stripped down version of this phone, the One 5g UW Ace, with 64GB ram and 4GB rom, vs. 128/6 on the retail variant.
I'd like to get the retail unlocked version for slightly better specs and to avoid having all the Verizon crapware that becomes permanently embedded on the phone.
Does anyone have any real life experience using the retail version on Verizon? I am especially concerned with Wifi calling, as parts of my home absolutely require this feature.
Thanks for any input!

I am using the retail version on AT&T. The wifi calling works great.

jwhistler said:
Verizon will sell you a somewhat stripped down version of this phone, the One 5g UW Ace, with 64GB ram and 4GB rom, vs. 128/6 on the retail variant.
I'd like to get the retail unlocked version for slightly better specs and to avoid having all the Verizon crapware that becomes permanently embedded on the phone.
Does anyone have any real life experience using the retail version on Verizon? I am especially concerned with Wifi calling, as parts of my home absolutely require this feature.
Thanks for any input!
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I've had the retail phone for over 6 months and it is solid in call quality / WiFi calling (I'm on T-Mo) but if pictures are important to youm it will disappoint" the camera quality is similar to a 2014 Moto G's camera.

FoneWatcher said:
I've had the retail phone for over 6 months and it is solid in call quality / WiFi calling (I'm on T-Mo) but if pictures are important to youm it will disappoint" the camera quality is similar to a 2014 Moto G's camera.
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My interest is to have a decent phone that works with Verizon and that isn't stuffed with carrier crapware. Photos are secondary...

My Metro variant 5G Ace is currently on US Mobile's Verizon network. What I did was:
1. Input another IMEI to port my phone number because the 5G Ace isn't on Verizon's "compatible" phones list (I used an unlocked iPhone in my case)
2. Put the SIM card into the iPhone to activate the card. (My 5g Ace didn't have service right after porting, YMMV)
3. Put the SIM card into the 5g Ace
Also, I'm not able to change the preferred network type and the signal bars in the status bar change to a different design for some reason.
WiFi calling works as well.

FoneWatcher said:
I've had the retail phone for over 6 months and it is solid in call quality / WiFi calling (I'm on T-Mo) but if pictures are important to youm it will disappoint" the camera quality is similar to a 2014 Moto G's camera.
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Hi Fonewatcher, I am glad to find this thread as I just bought a plan through T-Mobile yesterday, and chose another Moto (the Moto One 5G Ace). Am not sure I have wifi calling, but I would like to know a lot more about this phone. I found an excellent tutorial to follow here, but I also like to find others that use the phone & service just for occasional tips if I get stuck.
For the thread topic I wanted to check and see how to get rid of as much bloatware, T-Mobile apps, ads. I don't believe I can actually make the phone "retail" because I know some apps I can't uninstall, like my last Moto G6 from Verizon. When I closed my Verizon Acct. I still was unable to uninstall the apps Verizon put on there. I found one video this a.m. here and I think it was pretty good on clearing off but if there is more I can do I would like to learn.

G0ldengirl68 said:
Hi Fonewatcher, I am glad to find this thread as I just bought a plan through T-Mobile yesterday, and chose another Moto (the Moto One 5G Ace). Am not sure I have wifi calling, but I would like to know a lot more about this phone. I found an excellent tutorial to follow here, but I also like to find others that use the phone & service just for occasional tips if I get stuck.
For the thread topic I wanted to check and see how to get rid of as much bloatware, T-Mobile apps, ads. I don't believe I can actually make the phone "retail" because I know some apps I can't uninstall, like my last Moto G6 from Verizon. When I closed my Verizon Acct. I still was unable to uninstall the apps Verizon put on there. I found one video this a.m. here and I think it was pretty good on clearing off but if there is more I can do I would like to learn.
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Look in the guide section here. Getting rid of TMO stuff seems to be a big part of the motivation for the writers of the guides.

jwhistler said:
Verizon will sell you a somewhat stripped down version of this phone, the One 5g UW Ace, with 64GB ram and 4GB rom, vs. 128/6 on the retail variant.
I'd like to get the retail unlocked version for slightly better specs and to avoid having all the Verizon crapware that becomes permanently embedded on the phone.
Does anyone have any real life experience using the retail version on Verizon? I am especially concerned with Wifi calling, as parts of my home absolutely require this feature.
Thanks for any input!
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I have this phone and I use Total Wireless (Verizon). Wifi calling does not work on this phone.
jwhistler said:
Verizon will sell you a somewhat stripped down version of this phone, the One 5g UW Ace, with 64GB ram and 4GB rom, vs. 128/6 on the retail variant.
I'd like to get the retail unlocked version for slightly better specs and to avoid having all the Verizon crapware that becomes permanently embedded on the phone.
Does anyone have any real life experience using the retail version on Verizon? I am especially concerned with Wifi calling, as parts of my home absolutely require this feature.
Thanks for any input!
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Pros and cons of opting for a OP8T KB2007 Tmo version vs KB2005 to root?

Hey guys so I'm new to rooting and have spent weeks doing my homework to decide what phone to purchase to root to balance price/specs and rooting difficulty/obstacles, I landed on Oneplus phones for the price to performance and their rep for being fairly straightforward to root with no notorious/obscure obstacles.
I ended up finding an unlocked Oneplus 8T KB2007 Tmo version brand new for $300 and thought the price for the specs was a really great deal, however reading into the XDA guides for rooting the TMO version I discovered the obstacles that KB2007 owners have to overcome with requesting and waiting on the boot loader unlock pin from oneplus, as well as stock images being notoriously hard to come by online (Though I did manage to find guides on how to pull my own stock image without root and seems to work for KB2007 owners)
My main question is, for any rooted kb2007 owners here, is there any general obstacles/headaches/potential issues or tips in either rooting the TMO version as well as general operation of the rooted model after that I should be aware of ? Do any of you regret not going for the KB2005 for a particular reason? Any help would be appreciated , The price and specs are so ideal for me but I'm really worried there might end up being more problems than it's worth

If you want to use OxygenOS, TMO updates very slow and only has a single sim slot.
But with enough skills you can bake newer global kb2005 firmware into your kb2007 and enable dual sim at home.
If you plan to use custom roms like LineagsOS, you should concern about basebands:
OnePlus 8T (T-Mobile US) (KB2007) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for OnePlus 8T (T-Mobile US) (KB2007)
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Kb2005 and kb2007 have different 4G & 5G basebands. Kb2007 support more 4G bands.
As for root, since your kb2007 is fully unlocked, nothing differs or matters about root.

And, check your ufs version and memory version.
My kb2007 has ufs 3.0 and lpddr4.
Some device randomly has ufs 3.1 or lpddr5, which gives slightly performance upgrade.