So at some point in the last 3 or 4 months, a lot of my old text messages disappeared. IE there's a few group chats and individual chats where the messages don't go back any further than a year and a half to 2 years. There's not a specific cut off date, and these are threads that go back several years. I've looked through them 3-4 months ago, so i know they were there.
I cannot get them to show back up to save my life. I have a backup of my Note 10+ i had before this, as well as a backup of the note 22 from a few months back. both show 10's of thousands of SMS messages. I factory reset my phone and restored the messages from the note 10 save, but no luck, same issue, they cut off at specific points and wont go back further.
I downloaded SMS backup and restore because I absolutely do not want something like this to happen again, but i noticed that even though my back ups show thousands and thousands of sms messages, SMS backup and restore is only showing 6000 messages. This has me very baffled. Im wondering if one of the recent updates caused this or something? I have made no major changes to anything sms related over the last few months, so for this to just suddenly happen, and me not be able to restore them even after a factory reset just really has me losing my mind. If these messages are gone, then their gone, but it doesnt make sense, and the number that SMS backup and restore says are on my phone vs what should be on there from the restore just don't add up.
Anyone else experience anything like this??
edit: this is an AT&T version
I can only confirm that SMS Backup and Restore Pro v10.10.001 supports 13692 sms without any problem. I delete the mms because the archive file swells very fast. Currently the archive is 4.7 MB.
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I just updtaed my rom to the official 6.1 build released recently here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519698
I used Pim Backup before updating to save all my contacts and text messages.
When I did a restore, my phone ran incredibly slowly. I know that before, when I used PIM to restore from Windows 6.0 to 6.1 (this was when I was on a Cingular 8525), it took a very long time because 6.1 needed to nest all my text messages, but my fuze didn't seem to do this. It only kept the last 30 or so messages from my side of the conversation only, and the entire phone slowed down like crazy once I did the restore, especially if I do anything involving text messages, it was damn near unusable.
Is there anything I can do to restore the backup of all my contacts and text messages successfully and have them all intact the way they were before the update?
before you do a restore you should do the tweak to make texts go in regular order not threaded
then do the restore
all you need to do to speed the phone back up is to soft reset.
once you reset you do the tweak to go back to threaded and you will be fine
How many texts do you have? You may want to archive some of the older ones. It's probably worth looking at \cemail.vol just to see how big it is. I don't text much at all and don't use email; I have maybe 100 texts on my device. My cemail.vol (in the root of the device memory) is 292K. If you've got 10K+ texts or some crazy amount, my guess is that your cemail.vol file is huge-this could be your problem. I also have maybe 50 contacts, and my pim.vol is ~600K. If I were you, I'd just look at those two files, and maybe look at your available storage memory before and after restoring your pim data.
Edit: or just do what lbhocky19 said, lol.
lbhocky19 said:
before you do a restore you should do the tweak to make texts go in regular order not threaded
then do the restore
all you need to do to speed the phone back up is to soft reset.
once you reset you do the tweak to go back to threaded and you will be fine
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How do I do this tweak?
do you have advanced config? if not get that
its in the messaging section
By Advanced Config, do you mean a setting somewhere in my phone that I can set to advanced mode, or do you mean a program I need to download?
Umm, Hello? Anyone?
... umm, can anybody please help me?
Well... http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=advanced+config
..... you don't have to insult me, "Advanced Config" is a common term, I didn't expect a Google search to get it right on the first hit.
So, is this program basically the equivalent of the Att Tilt's Kaiser Tweak then?
I have a new problem with PIM Backup now however.....
I used Advanced Config to set the messages as regular order, then did the restore, and it APPEARED to work fine (didnt set them back to threaded yet). But then I tried restoring the second backup, and the progress bar has been stuck at 1% for a while now. I am assuming its going so slow because its trying to insert information while the database already has so much information in it.
Is there any way I can make this work faster? A way to restore both backup files at once or merge them into one or something like that?
The reason I have two is because after I made the initial backup, since I wasn't able to get it to restore correctly, I had to reset my device yesterday so I made a second backup that is just the 2-4 week period between then I last updated it and had to reset it, it contains far far fewer messages and logs than previously.
Sorry to post again but.... I have another problem.
The restore isn't working correctly.
I used Advanced Config to set mt messages as standard instead of threaded, and restored my PIM backup. After I set ti back to threaded, it would only show the other person's side of the conversation, not mine. Then once I got a text from that person and replied it started re-sorting the messages..... and then it would only show MY side of the conversation, not theirs!
Why is this happening? Is there anything I can do to fix it?
Well.. I seemed to have somehow solved my SMS bug accidentally. I was suffering from it from day 1 when I restored my 2000+ messages. I gave up on trying to tweak it, and decided to concentrate on moving my picture MMSes over from my Diamond.
(along the way I concluded none of the backup softwares can really work with picture MMSes.. but that's another story.)
I'll state upfront I don't really know what I did that fixed the problem, but I'm very sure the problem of SMS stuck in the outbox is fixed, I seem to get all my SMSes and only my msg threads with more than 300 msgs take a while (3s - 5s?) to load.
The interface loads EVERY single msg. Doesn't anyone at HTC use MSN?
Here's what I did when I gave up with the MMSes. Something along the way solved the problem. Or maybe I got lucky.
1) deleted the messages that were previously MMSes in both inbox and sent box.
Every single one.
Didn't study much, but I realised through testing, my restored MMSes were causing some problems. In traditional mode, I could not reply to a single restored MMS, but a single restored SMS was fine. In conversation mode, conversations with restored MMSes had a lag, while those with only SMS didn't. The sent/received fields also seem screwed up somehow.
Furthermore, none of the softwares I tried using to restore couldn't bring my picture MMSes back to life. (sentimental value, else I'll just save the images)
That's why I decided to just kill all of them for now. I used Jeyo Mobile to delete those "former-MMSes" from my HD2.
2) Exited Sense by removing it from Today
BTW, this was fresh from a Hard Reset, so there's nothing else in the system.
3) Using Jeyo Mobile, deleted the (previously unseen) folder Conversations from the sms inbox
Don't know why, I keep seeing it reappear. Seems to cause problems when it's not properly indexed. the UI seems to duplicate the latest msg from each contact into it, and that'll be the start of the threads.
3) Clear the deleted items folder using Jeyo
Including manually deleting the Conversations folder that was stuck in it.
4) Back up the SMSes
I had no email, nothing in draft as the UI doesn't index them properly. Only left stuff in Inbox and Sent. I used Jeyo Mobile Companion 2.1. Feel free to try others.
5) Hard Reset
6) Restore the SMSes
Here's where it's hazy again. I might have tried alot of combis, as the UI doesn't index the msgs properly for conversations all the time. Idea was to restore and let the UI index it properly. Here's the possible permutations:
a) I might have exited Sense.
b) I might have left the HTC msging interface in traditional
c) I might have left the HTC msging interface in conversation
Chances are, it's in conversation.
I restored the msgs using Jeyo. (it's stored in a XML file, so other text based backups may work too)
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I only realised that the problem is fixed a few days later, as I realised that the next few days, I got my SMS reports instantly, and I never had a SMS stuck. My newly received and sent MMSes worked perfectly too.
I'm trying not to touch that msging part of my phone now that it is working perfectly....
Just found out that HD2 I bought (at the same time) for my GF is suffering the sent/huge lag issue though. Maybe I'll try to pin point a fix using her phone. She shld have less than 50 messages, though I did back up and restore some mmses for her previously.
However as I'm about to go on a 19day tour/holiday, so I thought I'll just share my experience and maybe some experts can figure out what's wrong.
Just for your info, I'm using 1.48.707.2 (71294) WWE.
Maybe you guys can help me out here. This is the second time this has happened. All of the sudden, without warning, all my contacts are gone. I sent a text not 10 mins ago, at that point everybody who I'd texted had their names and photos next to the texts. Now, I'm left with just a bunch of numbers. I checked my "Contacts" app, and it's empty. It did the same thing about a week ago, but it was early and I had a Nandroid backup from the night before, so I only lost about two texts. My last backup is from two days ago, too much for me to restore back that far. Any idea a) WHY this would happen, as randomly as it did? and b) How to get back any contacts that might not transfer from a GMail/Facebook Sync? Would this be a problem with the phone, or something I did to the phone that would make it do this literally randomly?
I guess I'll throw in that I mainly use Handcent, have ChompSMS on here as well, and haven't used the default messaging app since I downloaded Handcent. I also am no longer able to sync Facebook it appears.
Also, contacts are the only thing missing. All other data is still there, along with all apps and even my homescreen layout is still intact.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Check your sync options. On a different device, I've had the Contacts come unchecked, and when the phone sync'd it erased them all
I checked everything after it happened, there were no changes. I didn't have it set up for Auto-sync either, so it shouldn't have just randomly synced to nothing. And that wouldn't explain why my phone and SIM contacts aren't accessible either.
Anyways, it happened again today. I noticed it right after I replied to a text using LauncherPro's new Messaging widget. I'm wondering if that's not the common factor in the three times that it's happened. If it happens again, it'll be getting unrooted, restored to stock and exchanged under warranty. The most intrusive thing I've done to this phone is try to get a lagfix to work (that didn't even work), and I doubt the side effects of that would include random contact deletion...
Ever since the ICS upgrade, one contact's message thread refuses to open and is stuck on "O Loading" with that little circle revolving.
I downloaded go sms pro before and I was able to access his thread through that and the message count wasn't over the maximum limit per contact. I've since gone back to the stock app as he's out of the country and it's faster than go sms pro but he recently txted me and caused the problem to occur with other contacts (though a reset of the phone solves their issue)
Does anyone have a solution and failing that, advice? I should say right now that deleting his message thread is the last resort.
and HTC sensation
Android 4.0.3
Software 3.32.401.5
You could try to backup your messages (you can find some apps for that in the market), then delete all your contacts, and afterwards restore them again~
Though no idea if it will work :/
burningwipf said:
You could try to backup your messages (you can find some apps for that in the market), then delete all your contacts, and afterwards restore them again~
Though no idea if it will work :/
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Aye I could try it with a contact whose messages I don't mind losing and seeing if that works, thanks for the tip!
You can also use Google Voice, and have it copy all the messages to your Gmail account.
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So I started backing up and restoring and I was able to open all contacts' threads. The backup never fully restores all messages though and I have to keep hitting "restore" so that it'll restore them all up to the present day. Don't know why it's doing it this way.
Just now I've checked and that one contact won't open again. What I might do is try and restore all to the present, delete loads of messages I don't want, and backup this new message history.
I know this is most likely far too late but I was having the same problems and found this thread while trying to sort it and hope it will help anyone else in future who has the same problems. I tried backing up and restoring (Using both the default and sms back-up and restore) deleting the thread and restoring, eventually I solved it by installing handscent, deleting the messages sent/received back to when the problem started in that thread and a few before, then went in settings, apps, then all, messages cleared the cache, restarted and it is sorted!!
3dd1 said:
I know this is most likely far too late but I was having the same problems and found this thread while trying to sort it and hope it will help anyone else in future who has the same problems. I tried backing up and restoring (Using both the default and sms back-up and restore) deleting the thread and restoring, eventually I solved it by installing handscent, deleting the messages sent/received back to when the problem started in that thread and a few before, then went in settings, apps, then all, messages cleared the cache, restarted and it is sorted!!
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Yeah it never resolved itself but I love the customisation of go sms pro so much that I don't mind anymore. Pity go sms pro crashes every so often and I think it slows the phone down.
I was going to start a new thread but see that this is the same problem I have.
I have a mt4gs (Doubleshot) and the problem described in this thread has happened twice. Both times i was receiving a text message and did something else with the phone at the same moment, and it seems to have jammed up the receipt of that text. The first time, i sent a text to the person at the same moment i received one. The second time, i locked the screen at the moment one arrived. Now that thread never loads, and loading other threads or contacts takes much longer than it should. In fact, i don't think contacts would ever load if i were willing to wait forever.
The first time I backed up the texts, reset the device, and restored, and everything worked fine, but that's a really time-consuming process and it seems like a ridiculous workaround for some broken buffer or queue in Android messaging.
It seems that there must be a direct fix for this. If it's easy enough to break messaging that it has happened to me twice, it must be a fairly common problem. But a search has turned up nothing but people saying there are too many messages or to use an alternative app for messaging. That's (1) incorrect and (2) again an ugly workaround for a problem with core functionality.
The Problem:
Sometime last week, several--but not all--of my text messages disappeared from both Google Hangouts and my native SMS app. Only recent texts went missing, while past messages from those same people were visible in the Contact History. I noticed for two reasons: 1) my incoming messages after last Monday all were basically new threads and the previous texts with those individuals/groups were gone, and 2) I needed to keep a record of a particular thread with my ex who became abusive in the case that I would need to file a restraining order. He is bright, but borderline which means he's unstable. I am anxious about having lost those texts with him and also insatiably curious, which is why I'm posting here.
Sidenote: Yes, I have heard of SMS Backup & Restore. No, I did not use it before. Yes, I plan to use it in the future.
My Phone Details:
Samsung Galaxy S3 (SGH-T999L)
Android version 4.3
Baseband version T999LUVUBNF4
Sidenote: I know missing texts is a known issue with this phone, so if that is what you think it is after reading this, please tell me. However, it's bothersome to me because all threads before 3/23 disappeared from my SMS app, BUT I can still see *some* (but not all!) texts by looking through my contact history. Also bothersome is that on 3/20, I told my ex (by text) that if he did not stop contacting me, I would file a restraining order. Of course this mysterious loss of data could be completely coincidental, too.
What I've Tried So Far
1. I tried to use Dr.Fone software to find the lost messages. It got stuck at the "Analyzing Device" screen, so no luck there.
2. Yesterday, I rooted my phone after poring over this website for several hours. I used CF Autoroot. Although I was unsuccessful at using adb commands on both my phone (Terminal Emulator) and computer (SDK), I was able to navigate the root directories using ROM Toolbox Pro (Hallelujah! That process was driving me crazy!).
3. I looked at all the "mmssms.db" databases (/databases/com.android.providers.telephony/mmssms.db) - no luck. It only contained the recent messages that are visible in the SMS app.
4. I discovered that I could see older text messages by looking through the Contact History (View Contact > History). Many threads were deleted all the way back to 2014, but 1 thread still had texts from 3/22/15. So, I went on the hunt and discovered "logs.db" (/databases/com.sec.android.provider.logsprovider/logs.db).
5. In logs.db, I could see up to 1000 rows with the names of people, including those people whose threads were deleted. Their names and numbers are all present and accounted for, but when I view the M_Content column, I see a bunch of blank spaces where text content should be, all the way back until April of 2014 (with the exception of the thread with 2 texts on 3/22/15).
Other Strange Happenings
This could be selective memory, but in the last week my phone has been acting very strangely, turning off spontaneously, even when charged, and getting lots of error messages (Sorry, X App must close).
The Chicken Or The Egg
What do you think? Is my phone glitching and therefore I lost the data, or did I lose the data, perhaps by some nefarious means, and therefore my phone is glitching? Does this sound like a typical data loss situation to you?
Final Caveats
Please use layman's terms. I am not an expert by any stretch, so the more jargon used to advise, the more hours I will spend trying to discern what you are trying to tell me.
Thank you in advance for your help.