PIM Backup restore makes HTC Fuze run very slowly - General Topics

I just updtaed my rom to the official 6.1 build released recently here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519698
I used Pim Backup before updating to save all my contacts and text messages.
When I did a restore, my phone ran incredibly slowly. I know that before, when I used PIM to restore from Windows 6.0 to 6.1 (this was when I was on a Cingular 8525), it took a very long time because 6.1 needed to nest all my text messages, but my fuze didn't seem to do this. It only kept the last 30 or so messages from my side of the conversation only, and the entire phone slowed down like crazy once I did the restore, especially if I do anything involving text messages, it was damn near unusable.
Is there anything I can do to restore the backup of all my contacts and text messages successfully and have them all intact the way they were before the update?

before you do a restore you should do the tweak to make texts go in regular order not threaded
then do the restore
all you need to do to speed the phone back up is to soft reset.
once you reset you do the tweak to go back to threaded and you will be fine

How many texts do you have? You may want to archive some of the older ones. It's probably worth looking at \cemail.vol just to see how big it is. I don't text much at all and don't use email; I have maybe 100 texts on my device. My cemail.vol (in the root of the device memory) is 292K. If you've got 10K+ texts or some crazy amount, my guess is that your cemail.vol file is huge-this could be your problem. I also have maybe 50 contacts, and my pim.vol is ~600K. If I were you, I'd just look at those two files, and maybe look at your available storage memory before and after restoring your pim data.
Edit: or just do what lbhocky19 said, lol.

lbhocky19 said:
before you do a restore you should do the tweak to make texts go in regular order not threaded
then do the restore
all you need to do to speed the phone back up is to soft reset.
once you reset you do the tweak to go back to threaded and you will be fine
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How do I do this tweak?

do you have advanced config? if not get that
its in the messaging section

By Advanced Config, do you mean a setting somewhere in my phone that I can set to advanced mode, or do you mean a program I need to download?

Umm, Hello? Anyone?

... umm, can anybody please help me?

Well... http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=advanced+config

..... you don't have to insult me, "Advanced Config" is a common term, I didn't expect a Google search to get it right on the first hit.
So, is this program basically the equivalent of the Att Tilt's Kaiser Tweak then?
I have a new problem with PIM Backup now however.....
I used Advanced Config to set the messages as regular order, then did the restore, and it APPEARED to work fine (didnt set them back to threaded yet). But then I tried restoring the second backup, and the progress bar has been stuck at 1% for a while now. I am assuming its going so slow because its trying to insert information while the database already has so much information in it.
Is there any way I can make this work faster? A way to restore both backup files at once or merge them into one or something like that?
The reason I have two is because after I made the initial backup, since I wasn't able to get it to restore correctly, I had to reset my device yesterday so I made a second backup that is just the 2-4 week period between then I last updated it and had to reset it, it contains far far fewer messages and logs than previously.

Sorry to post again but.... I have another problem.
The restore isn't working correctly.
I used Advanced Config to set mt messages as standard instead of threaded, and restored my PIM backup. After I set ti back to threaded, it would only show the other person's side of the conversation, not mine. Then once I got a text from that person and replied it started re-sorting the messages..... and then it would only show MY side of the conversation, not theirs!
Why is this happening? Is there anything I can do to fix it?

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Problem with xda 2i

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I'm not sure what to make of this, sounds like something's seriously screwed. When I unsimlocked my 2i to copy the contacts off my old Virgin sim, I made a couple of test calls and it worked fine.
The only thing I can suggest really is that you try a hard reset and a Corporate install, then unsimlock right afterwards and give it another go. If you do do that, I'm not sure if making a full backup would help, because then when you restore it if you have a registry problem which is causing the error, it'll restore the conflict too.
The last time I did a hard reset, I wanted to keep all my text messages and contacts though, so I did do a full synchronisation with Outlook to save my contacts, and I used a really sweet programme called smsOrganizer to backup all of my MMSes and SMSes. It's not _the_ most intuitive of programs, and it does require a little manual file manipulation after the reset before you restore the files (obviously), but it worked just purfick for me
I can only really suggest a hard reset, because that's the only way I know for sure to eliminate any and all problems you have which are arising from pre-existing conflicts.

Sprite Backup... what WONT it recover

Im contemplating a hard reset and use Sprite backup. So my question is.. what WONT it bring back.. in terms of settings and programs and what not. I obviously dont care much about the storage card, but just everything else.. what will i lose.. call history.. sms... mail account settings, program settings.. UI stuff...
Thanks for ure help.
Anyone have any ideas?
Assuming you have the latest version, it "should" recover everything. But I put that in quotes because something flaky can always happen depending on any number of factors. However, it still beats the alternative of not backing up at all.
I can tell you that I had to do a restore of my Fuze a few days ago, using Sprite 6.5, and it worked flawlessly. Hope that helps.
By and large...sprite is able to backup and restore almost every setting inlcuding email and your email account settings. Just keep in mind that email settings backed up wont be transferable to another device. Just in case your planning on doing a restore on another device.

I've fixed the stuck-SMS bug somehow?

Well.. I seemed to have somehow solved my SMS bug accidentally. I was suffering from it from day 1 when I restored my 2000+ messages. I gave up on trying to tweak it, and decided to concentrate on moving my picture MMSes over from my Diamond.
(along the way I concluded none of the backup softwares can really work with picture MMSes.. but that's another story.)
I'll state upfront I don't really know what I did that fixed the problem, but I'm very sure the problem of SMS stuck in the outbox is fixed, I seem to get all my SMSes and only my msg threads with more than 300 msgs take a while (3s - 5s?) to load.
The interface loads EVERY single msg. Doesn't anyone at HTC use MSN?
Here's what I did when I gave up with the MMSes. Something along the way solved the problem. Or maybe I got lucky.
1) deleted the messages that were previously MMSes in both inbox and sent box.
Every single one.
Didn't study much, but I realised through testing, my restored MMSes were causing some problems. In traditional mode, I could not reply to a single restored MMS, but a single restored SMS was fine. In conversation mode, conversations with restored MMSes had a lag, while those with only SMS didn't. The sent/received fields also seem screwed up somehow.
Furthermore, none of the softwares I tried using to restore couldn't bring my picture MMSes back to life. (sentimental value, else I'll just save the images)
That's why I decided to just kill all of them for now. I used Jeyo Mobile to delete those "former-MMSes" from my HD2.
2) Exited Sense by removing it from Today
BTW, this was fresh from a Hard Reset, so there's nothing else in the system.
3) Using Jeyo Mobile, deleted the (previously unseen) folder Conversations from the sms inbox
Don't know why, I keep seeing it reappear. Seems to cause problems when it's not properly indexed. the UI seems to duplicate the latest msg from each contact into it, and that'll be the start of the threads.
3) Clear the deleted items folder using Jeyo
Including manually deleting the Conversations folder that was stuck in it.
4) Back up the SMSes
I had no email, nothing in draft as the UI doesn't index them properly. Only left stuff in Inbox and Sent. I used Jeyo Mobile Companion 2.1. Feel free to try others.
5) Hard Reset
6) Restore the SMSes
Here's where it's hazy again. I might have tried alot of combis, as the UI doesn't index the msgs properly for conversations all the time. Idea was to restore and let the UI index it properly. Here's the possible permutations:
a) I might have exited Sense.
b) I might have left the HTC msging interface in traditional
c) I might have left the HTC msging interface in conversation
Chances are, it's in conversation.
I restored the msgs using Jeyo. (it's stored in a XML file, so other text based backups may work too)
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I only realised that the problem is fixed a few days later, as I realised that the next few days, I got my SMS reports instantly, and I never had a SMS stuck. My newly received and sent MMSes worked perfectly too.
I'm trying not to touch that msging part of my phone now that it is working perfectly....
Just found out that HD2 I bought (at the same time) for my GF is suffering the sent/huge lag issue though. Maybe I'll try to pin point a fix using her phone. She shld have less than 50 messages, though I did back up and restore some mmses for her previously.
However as I'm about to go on a 19day tour/holiday, so I thought I'll just share my experience and maybe some experts can figure out what's wrong.
Just for your info, I'm using 1.48.707.2 (71294) WWE.

Pimbackup Issues

my phone had a camera issue (screen went white when taken pic, all settings were lost and it couldnt take panoramic pics) and i hardreset to fix it
that worked , however pimbackup seems not to work 100% messages in convo mode have not imported properly any ideas?
Use Microsoft My Phone with your Windows Live Messenger account....
More simple and everything's perfect ;-)
I'll use it! Cause before I have the same problem with Pimbackup.
i have the same issue... luckily im synced with Windows MyPhone too - which got my stuff back again.
PIM worked fine when making a backup from the HTC Diamond > HD2
fakker said:
i have the same issue... luckily im synced with Windows MyPhone too - which got my stuff back again.
PIM worked fine when making a backup from the HTC Diamond > HD2
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I find that when you restore with PIMBackup, if you restore your text messages and have the 'Conversations' option checked then you will have trouble. Rather, uncheck it and have the phone rebuild the conversations itself - takes a few minutes or so and you will have a noticeably slower device for a little while (mine is usually crawling for about 30 minutes - I generally restore around 1000 messages) but your threaded conversations will be preserved.
Also, back when I used my Polaris, I used to kill the messaging process (tmail.exe I think) and kill Manilla and then do the restore, then soft-reset, then enable Manilla again. That method always resulted in perfect restores including conversation threads (4000+ sms). I haven't had to do that with the HD2 but you could try it if you're having no luck after unchecking 'Conversations' in the Text Messages restore part of PIMBackup.

Question SMS help

So at some point in the last 3 or 4 months, a lot of my old text messages disappeared. IE there's a few group chats and individual chats where the messages don't go back any further than a year and a half to 2 years. There's not a specific cut off date, and these are threads that go back several years. I've looked through them 3-4 months ago, so i know they were there.
I cannot get them to show back up to save my life. I have a backup of my Note 10+ i had before this, as well as a backup of the note 22 from a few months back. both show 10's of thousands of SMS messages. I factory reset my phone and restored the messages from the note 10 save, but no luck, same issue, they cut off at specific points and wont go back further.
I downloaded SMS backup and restore because I absolutely do not want something like this to happen again, but i noticed that even though my back ups show thousands and thousands of sms messages, SMS backup and restore is only showing 6000 messages. This has me very baffled. Im wondering if one of the recent updates caused this or something? I have made no major changes to anything sms related over the last few months, so for this to just suddenly happen, and me not be able to restore them even after a factory reset just really has me losing my mind. If these messages are gone, then their gone, but it doesnt make sense, and the number that SMS backup and restore says are on my phone vs what should be on there from the restore just don't add up.
Anyone else experience anything like this??
edit: this is an AT&T version
I can only confirm that SMS Backup and Restore Pro v10.10.001 supports 13692 sms without any problem. I delete the mms because the archive file swells very fast. Currently the archive is 4.7 MB.

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