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[Q] Nexus 5 LTE in India

Hey man!! we know Nexus 5 D821 is 4G lte suppored.. but in India Lte is launched by airtel in some states using Band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE . So i wanted to know if its working or not ? (Indian lte = band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE).
I checked out some xda forums that says Lg g2 has snapdragon 800 and is capable of 4g lte In india. it does just require software update to do so! Is this true? (link = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455684&page=4 CHECK OUT POST NO. 35 and 39)
If yes Then NEXUS 5 should too?????:
The only thing stopping me from buying this phone is Will it support Indian LTE in future!!!::crying:
A help is much appriciated....:fingers-crossed:

Hello any one there!
Some one needs help right down here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

akjha96 said:
Some one needs help right down here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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D821 Indian version does not support band 40 so I doubt it will be possible and another thing As per I know radio signals does not only depend upon the processor, there is much more than that.

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varuntis1993 said:
D821 Indian version does not support band 40 so I doubt it will be possible and another thing As per I know radio signals does not depend upon the processor.
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Check out the link and post no. which i have give in my post and then only reply PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I meant to say it does not only depend upon the SOC, there is much more than that.
My bad I forgot to check out post no. 39...will have to see now

The Snapdragon 800 radio can only physically handle 7 LTE bands at the same time. If it could handle more, there would be no need for a D820 and a D821.
Now I am not sure how these bands are controlled on the WRT1605L. It will either be physical hardware configuration (different MSM8974 in D820 or D821) or Software (firmware) however, even if it is the latter, don't get your hopes up. It would not be possible for us to change the firmware of the radio.

rootSU said:
The Snapdragon 800 radio can only physically handle 7 LTE bands at the same time. If it could handle more, there would be no need for a D820 and a D821.
Now I am not sure how these bands are controlled on the WRT1605L. It will either be physical hardware configuration (different MSM8974 in D820 or D821) or Software (firmware) however, even if it is the latter, don't get your hopes up. It would not be possible for us to change the firmware of the radio.
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I think iphone 5s and 5c also have the same receiver and they recently got a carrier update in India and now they do support 4g in India....I think the hardware supports it but you could tell us more about it?

The hardware may support it if it is pre-configured at the factory. Nexus 5 is not.
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rootSU said:
The hardware may support it if it is pre-configured at the factory. Nexus 5 is not.
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Then how come in given link he says and shows Pic (in attachments). If its not possible then how come apple did it .. Correct me if i am wrong but apple didnt change the hardware inside , i think.

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rootSU said:
The Snapdragon 800 radio can only physically handle 7 LTE bands at the same time. If it could handle more, there would be no need for a D820 and a D821.
Now I am not sure how these bands are controlled on the WRT1605L. It will either be physical hardware configuration (different MSM8974 in D820 or D821) or Software (firmware) however, even if it is the latter, don't get your hopes up. It would not be possible for us to change the firmware of the radio.
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Need MORE EXPLATION ON THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

akjha96 said:
Hey man!! we know Nexus 5 D821 is 4G lte suppored.. but in India Lte is launched by airtel in some states using Band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE . So i wanted to know if its working or not ? (Indian lte = band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE).
I checked out some xda forums that says Lg g2 has snapdragon 800 and is capable of 4g lte In india. it does just require software update to do so! Is this true? (link = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455684&page=4 CHECK OUT POST NO. 35 and 39)
If yes Then NEXUS 5 should too?????:
The only thing stopping me from buying this phone is Will it support Indian LTE in future!!!::crying:
A help is much appriciated....:fingers-crossed:
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Yes brother it will support
Even Reliance is working on it
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

akjha96 said:
Then how come in given link he says and shows Pic (in attachments). If its not possible then how come apple did it .. Correct me if i am wrong but apple didnt change the hardware inside , i think.
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Because it was limited by software, not at a hardware level. Different phone. Different radio configuration. They cannot change the physical limitations. They did not change the physical limitations. They just allowed it in software.
The radio is limited to 7 bands so if your radio has all 7 bands used and your band is not one if them then you're out if luck. Both nexus models are already configured for maximum bands
Edit> Let me try to put this another way. The hardware is limited to 7 bands. Google / LGE whatever realised with the Nexus 5 that they could use the hardware to it's maximum capacity in 2 models (7 bands) and cover all the regions that they planned to release to at the time of release. So both the D820 and D821 are at maximum band capacity.
Some other phones that may use the same radio may be released in more geographical areas and need more than 2 models, so they release 3 but instead of for example releasing 2 capable of 7 bands and a 3rd capable of 2 (for example), they release 3 capable of 3 bands each (again, for example)... So these 3 phones still have 4 unused bands left, unlike Nexus 5 which has 0 free bands.
So either the band is already there or it is not. There is no "software update" that can "unlock" additional bands. The radio hardware must be "reconfigured" completely. All capable bands are already available on tehe Nexus. To "add" a band would mean a band needs replacing which as yet, is not possible.
As I said earlier, I am not sure if the radio is physically configured or firmware managed but it is done at the factory. Whether they can do something in future (if it is the latter) remains to be seen but certainly at the moment, there is nothing that can be done.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Mr hOaX said:
Yes brother it will support
Even Reliance is working on it
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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can you send me some pics depicting the said situation please..:cyclops:

Late reply but>>>>>>>>
rootSU said:
Because it was limited by software, not at a hardware level. Different phone. Different radio configuration. They cannot change the physical limitations. They did not change the physical limitations. They just allowed it in software.
The radio is limited to 7 bands so if your radio has all 7 bands used and your band is not one if them then you're out if luck. Both nexus models are already configured for maximum bands
Edit> Let me try to put this another way. The hardware is limited to 7 bands. Google / LGE whatever realised with the Nexus 5 that they could use the hardware to it's maximum capacity in 2 models (7 bands) and cover all the regions that they planned to release to at the time of release. So both the D820 and D821 are at maximum band capacity.
Some other phones that may use the same radio may be released in more geographical areas and need more than 2 models, so they release 3 but instead of for example releasing 2 capable of 7 bands and a 3rd capable of 2 (for example), they release 3 capable of 3 bands each (again, for example)... So these 3 phones still have 4 unused bands left, unlike Nexus 5 which has 0 free bands.
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BUT N5 D821 has one free band
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20

Ok great!
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Delhi NCR got FDD-LTE(Band 3) + TDD-LTE(Band 40) from Airtel, it works fine on my Nexus 5. I was in a low signal region and tested the speeds on the Nexus 5(supports only band 3) and Redmi Note 4g (supports both band 3 and band 40)
The results were:
N5: 5.6mbps/1.84mbps 37ms ping
Redmi Note 4g: 5.75mbps/1.05mbps 55ms ping
The speeds are really low for LTE but the signal strength was at best -107dBm. I will probably test once again when I get a good signal.
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New test with signal strength around -100dBm

Will Airtel 4G work on my Nexus 5 in Maharashtra?
Will Airtel 4G work on my Nexus 5 in Maharashtra? I guess the customer care told me in Maharashtra they are using FDD.
They further mentioned that I will get 4G Speeds, but I might still see H+ on the handset instead of LTE.
Confused!!!! Should I go for 4G for not?

tejasjuthani said:
Will Airtel 4G work on my Nexus 5 in Maharashtra? I guess the customer care told me in Maharashtra they are using FDD.
They further mentioned that I will get 4G Speeds, but I might still see H+ on the handset instead of LTE.
Confused!!!! Should I go for 4G for not?
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Get the free 4G sim from any airtel store, only a 2minute form fill up and a message to 121 is required.
Put the phone in LTE mode in settings.
Download LTE Discovery from playstore to see if you get LTE signals and the signal strength (-95dBm or more would be OK)
If you get LTE signals and the phone registers fine on LTE then you can subscribe a 1 day 3g pack to check speeds, if all goes well then you should be good to go with 4g.

Tagtag123 said:
Get the free 4G sim from any airtel store, only a 2minute form fill up and a message to 121 is required.
Put the phone in LTE mode in settings.
Download LTE Discovery from playstore to see if you get LTE signals and the signal strength (-95dBm or more would be OK)
If you get LTE signals and the phone registers fine on LTE then you can subscribe a 1 day 3g pack to check speeds if all goes well then you should be good to go with 4g.
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Thanks for your quick response. I have already taken the 4g sim however the airtel gallery folks said that 4g LTE is not compatible with Nexus 5. Even the device 4g combability test on airtel's website shows an exclamation mark.
I am by no means getting LTE, even though in settings LTE mode is enabled. Have downloaded LTE Discovery app too, but no luck.
Any other thing I am missing out on? Are other users in Maharashtra also facing a similar issue?

Nexus 5 doesnt support band 40 (tdd-lte), band used by airtel for LTE in many circles. So that is why it isn't listed online on airtel's checklist. Delhi-NCR got both TDD-LTE and FDD-LTE, so nexus 5 works here.
Anyway, right now its not worth it. Very expensive and totally not worth it. Other telcos will use FDD-LTE, which is supported by Nexus 5. So, by that time the rates and QoS will be better and the nexus 5 will be supported.

LTE Bands for International Version

I've been trying to find the LTE bands for the International/European version of the S6/edge for a couple weeks now but have had no luck with any sites I trust. I was able to come across this site: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&...g925f_galaxy_s6_edge_lte-a_128gb_samsung_zero
Does anyone know how accurate this site is or know of where I might be able to find trustworthy specs?

Also interested in this. I might get an international version, but want to know if it will work here on the US on the AT&T network
Sent from my SM-G900T

Interested as well, if the international version supports ATT Lte that would be awesome

This is what I've been able to find out thus far:
GS6
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c.../4932.html?view=lte+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GS6 Edge
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c....html?view=terminal+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GN4
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4649.html?view=terminal
GN4 Edge
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4738.html?view=terminal
HTC M9
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4828.html?view=lte
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4827.html?view=lte
LG G3
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4473.html?view=terminal
Certification Chart
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/scope/current-scope.html
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senneca01 said:
This is what I've been able to find out thus far:
GS6
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c.../4932.html?view=lte+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GS6 Edge
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c....html?view=terminal+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GN4
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4649.html?view=terminal
GN4 Edge
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4738.html?view=terminal
HTC M9
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4828.html?view=lte
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4827.html?view=lte
LG G3
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4473.html?view=terminal
Certification Chart
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/scope/current-scope.html
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And what is the conclusion of this?
Sent from my SM-G900T

senneca01 said:
This is what I've been able to find out thus far:
GS6
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c.../4932.html?view=lte+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GS6 Edge
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c....html?view=terminal+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GN4
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4649.html?view=terminal
GN4 Edge
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4738.html?view=terminal
HTC M9
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4828.html?view=lte
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4827.html?view=lte
LG G3
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4473.html?view=terminal
Certification Chart
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/scope/current-scope.html
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That looks pretty damn official to me! Thanks!

Yes, it will work on AT&T and T-mobile.
http://www.gsmnation.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-unlocked.html

jorgenask said:
And what is the conclusion of this?
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It means the phone(s) should work on both AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T uses bands 2, 4, and 17. T-Mobile uses 2, 4, and 12. The International version supposedly supports 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 20, 26.

Japultra said:
It means the phone(s) should work on both AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T uses bands 2, 4, and 17. T-Mobile uses 2, 4, and 12. The International version supposedly supports 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 20, 26.
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Sorry for stating the obvious, but no support for band 17 and 12 on the international version then? What does this mean in teems of coverage and speed?
Sent from my SM-G900T

jorgenask said:
Sorry for stating the obvious, but no support for band 17 and 12 on the international version then? What does this mean in teems of coverage and speed?
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Where there are cell towers that are broadcasting using bands 12 or 17, you will not be able to get LTE coverage, but you will be able to get coverages for towers broadcasting on bands 2 and 4. Your real world coverage will depend on where you live and how each carrier has decided to configure their networks, but you will be able to have LTE for both.
[edit] Both 12 and 17 are 700mhz frequencies, which means that indoor coverage will not be as good if you don't have those frequencies. So that's a trade-off you might want to think about before going with the International version. Though for the most part, many people will have access to a wi-fi network while at work and at home, which I assume would be where most people would be for most of their day.

From what I've been reading, WiFi calling/texting features only work if you buy a T-Mobile specific device. Any other phones used on T-Mobile won't work with WiFi calling/texting features. That alone is the reason I would not buy an international phone and use it on T-Mobile.

senneca01 said:
From what I've been reading, WiFi calling/texting features only work if you buy a T-Mobile specific device. Any other phones used on T-Mobile won't work with WiFi calling/texting features. That alone is the reason I would not buy an international phone and use it on T-Mobile.
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What texting features are you talking about? Are you saying SMS won't work period?

Hi guys,
I have noticed that the verison I can purchase in France is the SM-G920FZ-02. Is it the same thing as the SM-G920F ?
I am unable to find the LTE bands for this version...
If it is not the case, I guess i could just get the SM-G920F from another country ? I've seen it on the UK version of the Samsung website.
I'm travelling a lot between Europe and the US so it's one of my main concerns but apparently Samsung doesn't give too much information on this yet!

FCC filing show the international model will support LTE band 2, 4, 12 among others: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=794688&fcc_id=A3LSMG920F

Based on the info so far in this thread , it would seem like a safe conclusion that the 920F international version would indeed work fine on the AT&T LTE network

So does it support 12 and 17?? I'd be interested in getting the international for ATT. Just not sure what will and won't work

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So does it support 12 and 17?? I'd be interested in getting the international for ATT. Just not sure what will and won't work
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Band 17 is a subband of 12 (12 is the larger scope that includes 17 in it). The S6 920F support band 12 so it should work on AT&T just fine.
Bands 4 and 2 which are also used by AT&T are also supported according to the FCC documents so i assume the international model 920F should work just fine.
I can't be sure the same about other 920X models out there.

Does anyone know the difference between the 920F and the 9200?

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Does anyone know the difference between the 920F and the 9200?
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Samsung I9200 is the Galaxy Mega. Is that what you're referring to?

I realised that there are commonly 2 available international versions, SM-920F (European?) and SM-920I (Rest of the world?). Wondering if anyone has the LTE specifications for the SM-920I version?
Edit (4 April): Found the answer to my own question at the Singapore Samsung website (under Specifications). So LTE Bands 1,2,3,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,26,28. No Band 4 though. I'm guessing that would greatly degrade the LTE experience with AT&T and T-Mobile?
4G+ LTE Cat 6 up to 300Mbps, VoLTE, 4G+ LTE FDD [Band 1 (2100MHz)/ Band 2 (1900MHz)/ Band 3 (1800MHz)/ Band 5 (850MHz)/ Band 7 (2600MHz)/ Band 8 (900MHz)/ Band 12 (700MHz)/ Band 17 (700MHz)/ Band 18 (800MHz)/ Band 19 (800MHz)/ Band 26 (800MHz) Band 28 (700MHz)], 4G+ LTE TDD [Band 40 (2300MHz)]
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Edit (8 April): Interestingly, the Australian Samsung website for the same model (SM-G920I) shows that Band 4 is supported. I'm totally confused now as to whether this particular model supports LTE Band 4.
4G FDD LTE B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B26(800), B28(700)
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Question 5g connection

Is someone getting 5g with T-Mobile?

I live in the suburbs of a large Texas city. There's 5G coverage at my house and when I drive around the area. I don't get out a lot these days, but it's mostly 5G with a few pockets of LTE. I haven't done a lot of speed testing, but it has shown to be faster than LTE when the 5G signal is strong.

You make feel better because I thought that the phone 5g doesn't work in the states but must be that Oregon infrastructure is not quite as good yet

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I live in the suburbs of a large Texas city. There's 5G coverage at my house and when I drive around the area. I don't get out a lot these days, but it's mostly 5G with a few pockets of LTE. I haven't done a lot of speed testing, but it has shown to be faster than LTE when the 5G signal is strong.
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Can you share your apn configuration to check if it's something related with that?

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I use manual APN selection.

Can you show me that apn configuration to see if mine its exactly the same please

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Can you show me that apn configuration to see if mine its exactly the same please
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Notes: I have the US version of the phone. Measuring on Google Maps, I'm approx 675 ft from the cell tower. All three speed results are from the same tower (used the CellMapper app to verify), and same SIM card, with the 5G and LTE+ speed results from the Sony Xperia 5 III and the 4G speed result from an Asus Zenfone 4 ZE554KL I was upgrading from. In order to get LTE+ on the Sony, I forced the "LTE/WCDMA/GSM" setting.

calamari said:
Notes: I have the US version of the phone. Measuring on Google Maps, I'm approx 675 ft from the cell tower. All three speed results are from the same tower (used the CellMapper app to verify), and same SIM card, with the 5G and LTE+ speed results from the Sony Xperia 5 III and the 4G speed result from an Asus Zenfone 4 ZE554KL I was upgrading from. In order to get LTE+ on the Sony, I forced the "LTE/WCDMA/GSM" setting.
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Where were you able to find a US version of the phone?

SludgeFactory said:
Where were you able to find a US version of the phone?
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Amazon (and sold by Amazon). Looks like it's only 3rd party sellers now, hopefully it'll restock soon? B091XR54FH

jcms666 said:
You make feel better because I thought that the phone 5g doesn't work in the states but must be that Oregon infrastructure is not quite as good yet
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There's an interesting [web app](https://www.nperf.com/en/map/US/-/85.T-Mobile-inc-Sprint/signal/?ll=45.50249699389715&lg=-122.71728515625001&zoom=9) I found trying to answer this question in Ontario. It shows experimentally gathered hyperlocal data about where within cities different speeds were measured on different providers... I don't know how trustworthy the data is for sure but it seems to suggest 5g coverage often varies wildly within a single city currently.
calamari said:
Amazon (and sold by Amazon). Looks like it's only 3rd party sellers now, hopefully it'll restock soon? B091XR54FH
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I bought mine direct from electronics dot sony dot com. They have the green color that Amazon does not carry and they keep doing steep sales. As of this second it is $100 off.

I highly recommend using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.mroczis.netmonster to show what kind of 5G you are connecting to. For example, my S22 Ultra typically does either SA 5G 600MHz (not supported by Sony) or NSA 5G over 1900MHz.

Milk Tea said:
I highly recommend using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.mroczis.netmonster to show what kind of 5G you are connecting to. For example, my S22 Ultra typically does either SA 5G 600MHz (not supported by Sony) or NSA 5G over 1900MHz.
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According to T-Mobile frequency bands page: "Frequencies that can provide XR 5G:
Band n71 (600 MHz)".
According to Sony's website, Xperia 5 III specifications page: "5G Band
n1, n2, n3, n5, n7, n8, n20, n28, n38, n40, n41, n66, n71, n77, n78".
So by the specs, the phone should be able to handle n71 just fine.
What about in reality? Well, the tower near my house has band n71, and my US Xperia 5 III (Android 12) was just connected to it. I took a cellmapper screenshot, attached.
In summary: 5G 600MHz works fine on US Xperia 5 III.

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NSA isn't SA.

Question 5G Support in the USA?

Does anyone know if any USA based wireless services support 5G on the 12S Ultra?

kuau said:
Does anyone know if any USA based wireless services support 5G on the 12S Ultra?
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Tmobile (usa) 5G is not working....however I got LTE+ over 120Mb+ download speed

avetny said:
Tmobile (usa) 5G is not working....however I got LTE+ over 120Mb+ download speed
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I am still waiting for my 12s ultra to come, but I am suspecting the same as my mi 11 ultra. Xiaomi.eu rom will remove 5g restrictions so I get 5G on it, however it is not t-mobiles 5G UC which is much faster than the 5G NSA

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tensux said:
I am still waiting for my 12s ultra to come, but I am suspecting the same as my mi 11 ultra. Xiaomi.eu rom will remove 5g restrictions so I get 5G on it, however it is not t-mobiles 5G UC which is much faster than the 5G NSA
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Btw im on xiaomi.eu.

avetny said:
Btw im on xiaomi.eu.
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Interesting, I'm assuming you get 5g on other devices?

tensux said:
I am still waiting for my 12s ultra to come, but I am suspecting the same as my mi 11 ultra. Xiaomi.eu rom will remove 5g restrictions so I get 5G on it, however it is not t-mobiles 5G UC which is much faster than the 5G NSA
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The missing bands are not due to the software but to the hardware (modem).
The Xiaomi eu roms remove 5GHz(wifi) region restrictions not 5G.
For phones for the global market with their equivalent in China, if you flash the global rom on the Chinese version the missing bands will still be missing and if you do the opposite you will have the same bands as on the global version.
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Update, Well I got excited today for about 5 minutes. I tried a PureTalk sim in my 12S and bang it showed a 5G connection. PureTalk in the USA is a MVNO for ATT. ATT shows 3 5G bands that are supported on the 12S.
Unfortunately I ran a few speed tests and was only getting about 50-60mbs download speed ugh... Worse speeds then I was getting with T-Mobile LTE...

kuau said:
Update, Well I got excited today for about 5 minutes. I tried a PureTalk sim in my 12S and bang it showed a 5G connection. PureTalk in the USA is a MVNO for ATT. ATT shows 3 5G bands that are supported on the 12S.
Unfortunately I ran a few speed tests and was only getting about 50-60mbs download speed ugh... Worse speeds then I was getting with T-Mobile LTE...
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PureTalk use N5 (850MHz), N77 (3.7GHz),N260 (39GHz) but you were surely on a N5 which emit far enough unlike the others.

NOSS8 said:
PureTalk use N5 (850MHz), N77 (3.7GHz),N260 (39GHz) but you were surely on a N5 which emit far enough unlike the others.
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So being on N5 does that explain the slower speeds ? Is there anyway to tell which band I am connected to?

kuau said:
So being on N5 does that explain the slower speeds ? Is there anyway to tell which band I am connected to?
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The N5 is far-reaching but does not offer higher throughput than 4g or 4g+.
You will find on the play store (I don't remember the name).
In France the B700 5g +/- 60mbs, 4g +/- 120mbs ,5G 3500 +/- 300mbs****
****Provided you are less than 1km from the antenna.
Note that MVNO often provide the least.
5G 3,5 GHz
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So for another test I took out the Puretalk sim and put it in my iPhone 13Pro, and what do you know triple the DL speed on 5G then on the 12s. So I would assume that the iPhone supports more 5g frequencies then the 12s?

kuau said:
So for another test I took out the Puretalk sim and put it in my iPhone 13Pro, and what do you know triple the DL speed on 5G then on the 12s. So I would assume that the iPhone supports more 5g frequencies then the 12s?
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NOSS8 said:
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Is this the iPhone 5g capabilities

kuau said:
Is this the iPhone 5g capabilities
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Iphone 13 pro 5G capabilities

NOSS8 said:
Iphone 13 pro 5G capabilities
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Thanks that's what I thought. Oh well so much for "true" 5g support in the USA... Kind of bummed about this. I finally unlocked my 12s installed the .eu rom which at least for me transforms the phone into something quite usable now. i.e Android Auto, much better integration with google services... Basically just works now..

forgot to ask in the USA which 4G carries would have the best service / speed

kuau said:
forgot to ask in the USA which 4G carries would have the best service / speed
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Best 4G coverage​
Verizon: 70% 4G coverage
AT&T: 68% 4G coverage
T-Mobile: 62% 4G coverage
Best 5G coverage​
T-Mobile: 53% 5G coverage
AT&T: 29% 5G coverage
Verizon: 12% 5G coverage
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only LTE in USA on google fi (which uses t-mobile) but download speed seems twice as fast as i was getting on the mi 11 ultra, i usually get about 600/50 on devices with 5G in my area. I really don't have a need for that much speed on my phones.

Question Can the CN Xiaomi 13 be fully support by T-Mobile in the US?

Hi everyone!
I'm considering buying a Xiaomi 13 while I'm still in China and flashing the Xiaomi eu ROM. The CN version is much cheaper than the global one. I'm a T-Mobile customer and wondering if anyone has used a CN Xiaomi 13 in the US before? I've heard that sometimes the CN version Xiaomi phone may have issues to fully use 5g or 4g network in the US. Please share your experience here, and thank you for your time!

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Cn 5g 1/4 bands 4g 2/6 bands
Global. 5g 2/4 Bands 4g 5/6 bands
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I saw this video, the editor sad it worked good on T-mobile.

Gankadin said:
I saw this video, the editor sad it worked good on T-mobile.
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Sorry i am new to this ,how can i delete the post. i noticed that he is talking about the global version

Gankadin said:
I saw this video, the editor sad it worked good on T-mobile.
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It's about the Global version not CN.
Click on edit remove content and write DELETED.

NOSS8 said:
It's about the Global version not CN.
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yeah, i am trying to delet it but in "edit" section there is no delete otion...

I came across something interesting. This website actually compares the band coverage difference between the CN and the global version. It seems the CN ones normally get lower coverage, but I still have no idea how bad it could be since I have no idea what type of bands are covering my living area...
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-13

You post exactly what I have already posted, whatever, check here.
5G & 4G LTE Coverage Map: Check Your Cell Phone Service | T-Mobile
Now that Sprint is part of T-Mobile, our network is bigger and better than ever. Explore our 5G and 4G LTE coverage map and check availability in your area!
www.t-mobile.com
There are no bands (or I saw wrong).
T-Mobile network
Learn about coverage and technologies of the T-Mobile network, including a 5G and 4G LTE Coverage map, device compatibility, and more.
www.t-mobile.com

NOSS8 said:
You post exactly what I have already posted, whatever, check here.
5G & 4G LTE Coverage Map: Check Your Cell Phone Service | T-Mobile
Now that Sprint is part of T-Mobile, our network is bigger and better than ever. Explore our 5G and 4G LTE coverage map and check availability in your area!
www.t-mobile.com
There are no bands (or I saw wrong).
T-Mobile network
Learn about coverage and technologies of the T-Mobile network, including a 5G and 4G LTE Coverage map, device compatibility, and more.
www.t-mobile.com
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Thank you man!

I'm also in the US using Google Fi which uses T-Mobile. I'm also dual SIM with ATT.
I ended up getting the Global version because it had more supported bands even though it was more expensive... Ended up getting the 12/256 for $860 on eBay.

anandlal said:
I'm also in the US using Google Fi which uses T-Mobile. I'm also dual SIM with ATT.
I ended up getting the Global version because it had more supported bands even though it was more expensive... Ended up getting the 12/256 for $860 on eBay.
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Aloha,
Wonder if you can help? I purchased a 13 pro and having a hard time connecting to T-Mobile service. I have been working with tech support and I'm unable to make and receive phone calls. When I try to make calls the service drops. Im able to use data (internet) but unable to use the basic phone functions. Could you please let me know the apn settings that your using or have any suggestions on how I can get this service to work? I'm in the US.
Mahalo

devilman30 said:
Aloha,
Wonder if you can help? I purchased a 13 pro and having a hard time connecting to T-Mobile service. I have been working with tech support and I'm unable to make and receive phone calls. When I try to make calls the service drops. Im able to use data (internet) but unable to use the basic phone functions. Could you please let me know the apn settings that your using or have any suggestions on how I can get this service to work? I'm in the US.
Mahalo
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Here you go.

Mahalo for you quick response. So you default is the epc I would assume. Let me try. Did you do any other tweeking to the apns? My other question would be is the sim with the att getting the service and not the T-Mobile? Have you tried with just the T-Mobile sim?

Did you ever get this squared away ? I am looking to buy the 13 pro within the next day or 2

johnsonrod27 said:
Did you ever get this squared away ? I am looking to buy the 13 pro within the next day or 2
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The CN versions should function, though you'll likely experience signal outages due to only having a few of the frequencies. If you're looking to use the 13 in the USA, then the global version is what you'll be better off with.

I have a CN version phone and MintMobile (reseller of T-Mobile) SIM. It works fine. Plug & play. No special setting needed.