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Ultimate (Possible) Phone Specs: Share your thoughts!

CPU:
ARM 10nm FinFET LPP (2nd Gen) 64-bit processor
Frequency: 3Ghz, vast overclocking capabilities
Cores: Cortex-A75 Deca-core (only big cores)
Heat Output: Almost constant room temperature in every possible situation, except when enabling overclock mode
GPU:
World's first discrete mobile GPU: Nvidia M-Pascal GTX 1080M Ti GPU, equivalent to 50% of a full sized GTX 1080 Ti, overclockable
RAM:
Type: LPDDR4E
Size: 12GB
Speed: 4266MHz
Display:
Display Panel Technology: QD-AMOLED
Refresh Rate: 120Hz
Adaptive Refresh: Yes
ULMB: Enabled in Gaming Mode
Resolution: 5120×2160 5K WUHD/3840×2160 4K UHD/2880×2160 SHD
Aspect Ratio: 21:9/16:9/4:3
Brightness: 2000cd/m2
HDR-10 support: Yes
Dolby-Vision support: Yes
Hybrid Log-Gamma Support: Yes
Adobe RGB: 100%
DCI-P3: 99.98%
Rec 2020: 100%
Static Contrast Ratio: 5.000.000:1
Wide Color Gamut Display: Yes
Bit Depth: 10 Bit
Professionally Calibrated: Yes
Curved: Yes
Material: Sapphire (with flexible properties)
Bezels: Only top and bottom (for speakers)
Size: 5.7 inches
Response Time: 0.1ms
Pressure sensitive: Yes
Glasses-free 3D: Yes
Sound:
3.5mm Headphone Jack: Yes, with 6.35 mm to 3.5mm adapter included
Radio: Yes
Speakers:
Loud and powerful, crisp and clear hexa surround front-facing speakers
Frequency Range: 16Hz-22Khz
Dolby Atmos: Yes
DAC:
HI-FI Audiophile Quad DAC
Bit Range: 24 bit
Sampling Rate: 192kHz
Total Harmonic Distortion: >0.1%
Included Earphones:
Open-back, balanced, audiophile-grade in-ear headphones, with defined lows, mids and highs
Frequency Range: 15Hz-22Khz
Sound Isolating: Yes
Camera:
Sensor: (diagonal) 13.33mm (63.7mm², 12.288mm by 5.184mm) 3-Layer stacked CMOS image sensor with 1Gbit of stacked DRAM
Resolution: 24.8/18.6/13.9 megapixels (21:9 - 7680×3240; 16:9 - 5760×3240; 4:3 - 4320×3240)
Saves Images as: FLIF
Resolution/FPS (Video): 5120×[email protected], 3840×[email protected]/105fps, 3440×[email protected]/174fps, 2560×[email protected], 2560×[email protected], 1920×[email protected]/426fps, 1720×[email protected] 1280×[email protected], all in slow motion/real time options.
Flash: Quad QD-OLED flash (quad tone)
Pixel Size: 1.60µm
ISO Range: 1 - 25600
HDR-10 Support: Yes
Dolby Vision support: Yes
Hybrid Log-Gamma Support: Yes
Adobe RGB: 100%
DCI-P3: 99.98%
Rec 2020: 100%
Static Contrast Ratio: 5.000.000:1
Wide Color Gamut Support: Yes
Bit Depth: 12 Bit
Records loss-less files: Yes
Phase Detection Autofocus: Yes, dual pixel
Predictive Hybrid Autofocus: Yes
OIS: Yes
EIS: Yes
Laser Autofocus: Yes
Setup: Rotatable dual camera setup
All specifications above are valid for both cameras
Camera 1#:
Aperture: f/1.5
Camera 2#:
Aperture: f/2.5
Software:
Android Version: Stock Android O 8.0
Updates: All future updates guaranteed and immediate integration
Rootable: Yes
Unlockable Bootloader: Yes
Brick-and-bootloop-proof Technology: Included in Official Xposed Module
Vulkan API support : Yes
Google Drive Storage: 1TB of loss-less storage
Dolby Atmos: Yes
Storage:
Internal Storage: 32GB-256GB NVMe SSD
SD Card: Expandable SD Card slot up to 1TB + dual sim card slot
Cooling:
CPU, GPU and RAM are all liquid cooled, comes with a stylus that doubles as a liquid reservoir, tip detaches as female Nano-USB to male Thunderbolt 3 adapter
Battery:
Removable explosion-proof 6500Mah super-dense battery
Port: Thunderbolt 3 with Quick Charge 4+ equivalent
Sensors:
Semi-instantaneous fingerprint and iris scanner, accelerometer, gyroscope, infra-red, compass, proximity, barometer, thermometer, humidity sensor and heart rate monitor.
Networking:
WLAN: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/ad, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot
Celular Data Bands: All 3G, 3.5G, 4G and even 5G bands supported
Bluetooth: 5.0, A2DP, aptX, LE
GPS: A-GPS, GLONASS, BDS, GALILEO
NFC Support: Yes
Extra Features:
Modular:
- Antennae for increased digital TV, radio and cell data reception
- Keyboard Projector
- 5120×[email protected] laser projector
- QD-OLED 5000 lumens flashlight
- All components are replaceable/can be upgraded
- Ultra-Loud Hi-Fi Stereo Speakers extension
IP68 dust proof and water proof submerged in up to 50m for 24 hours
Official Protective Case, does not block module connections
Official Reinforced Flexible Sapphire Screen Protector
Price:
What it cost to make (including taxes) + margin of profit just enough to pay everyone who worked on it + margin of profit for industry growth. That's it. No exaggerated profits. After everyone's salaries are paid, the price drops.
Some explanations (part by part, in order):
CPU:
ARM's Cortex A75 cores are the most advanced (upcoming) mobile CPU cores, and some phones already feature deca-core setups.
FinFET LPP is Samsung's latest iteration of the 10nm manufacturing proccess, and supposedly brings about 10% increase in perfomance over the first generation.
I chose to only put big cores (A75) for maximum possible performance.
I decided to give the phone overclocking capabilities. No phone has that yet, but coming with an unlockable bootloader, a stock rootable android and a CPU that runs really cool, it would be a shame to not let fiddlers overclock this beast.
GPU:
With Nvidia making a laptop GPU as powerful as a desktop one (laptop GTX 10-series, plus it seems like a laptop GTX 1080 Ti is coming soon), I thought it wouldn't be much of a stretch to squeeze that into a phone, while shaving off 50% of the performance. Afterall, Nvidia seems to have taken interest in building processors for mobile, with the Nintendo Switch having one. And a discrete GPU in mobile sounds very nice, and it's overclockable too.
RAM:
LPDDR4E is the latest iteration of LPDDR4, and Samsung achieved 4266MHz with LPDDR4 already, and it's 12gb too (link).
Display:
Your first question might be why would put 3 different resolution with 3 different aspect ratios on the screen's spec sheet. Well, how absolutely amazing would taking advantage of OLED's flexible properties to make an expandable screen be? No more black bars on movies (most movies are recorded in ~21:9) + ultra-wide gaming, + still being able to switch to 16:9 for Youtube videos and TV series + watching old movies and TV series! No more black bars, EVER! Plus, retracting the screen will turn off a lot of pixels, so 4:3 mode can be used for extreme battery efficiency! The screen wouldn't be literally stretched all the times you clicked the dedicated button, instead it would de-roll a rolled up extra part of the screen hidden in the chassis, and push the bottom bezels apart to make room for the extra screen. So essentially, it takes advantage of OLED being rollable.
"SHD" stands for Small/Square-ish High Definition. Not the best name, but it was the best I could figure.
QD-OLED already is in research (sources here, here,here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here) plus recently Quantum Dot supplier Nanoco and OLED supplier Kyulux agreed to put their efforts on making QD-OLEDs a reality (link) (plus it's free of heavy metals and rare materials, too, so it's more nature friendly AND less expensive!).
2000cd/m² seems absurd at first, but it's actually what QD-LED TVs already reached.
There are already 4K phones (the Xperia Z5 Premium, for example), so I just stretched it to a 21:9 aspect ratio to make it 5K.
It's not using G-Sync, because the manufacturer would make a deal with Nvidia so that this GPU supports non-proprietary adaptive refresh. Apple's Ipad Pro has it (link)
21:9 phones are already in concept (links here and here)
120hz screens are in development too (link) (there's already a 120hz tablet: link)
The color spaces I made the screen reach are currently unheard of, but if you consider that QD-LEDs already reach over 90% of Rec 2020 (link), then 100% with QD-OLED doesn't seem too extreme.
The last time OLED's static contrast ratio was mentioned was at its beginning (1.000.000:1), and since dynamic contrast ratio isn't even a real thing, and all LG's being saying is that it's "infinite", I figured a 5 times increase in contrast wouldn't be too much, specially with HDR and how just from 2016 to 2017 LG's OLED's brightness increased by 25%.
In the production line, each individual display would undergo calibration with a spectrophotometer, in an automated process.
Why Sapphire instead of Gorilla Glass? Because Sapphire is naturally stronger than Glass, meaning even if Sapphire was undoubtedly weaker than Gorilla Glass 5, if Corning decided to make a "Gorilla Sapphire" (apply the same efforts to strengthen sapphire as they did to glass), then it would blow Gorilla Glass out of the water.
(most, if not all) OLEDs already have a 0.1ms response time.
Glasses-free 3D phones are already on the market (link).
All of this would be REALLY hard, but who know what they could do if they actually cared about us customers, instead of more profits.
Sound:
There was, already, a planned phone with quad speakers (link), although it was scrapped (the tablet version did come out, though). So I just made it even better with 6.
The LG G6 already has a quad DAC.
You might ask: why did I make the DAC only 24bit/192kHz, when there's phones with 32bit/384kHz DACs out there? Simple: It's a gimmick, it doesn't actually change sound, unless all your songs are 32bit/384kHz FLACs, which practically don't exist yet, and will probably take a few years until it becomes standard.
Camera:
All the crazy stuff about stacked DRAM, 960fps and etc. are numbers already achieved by the new Sony IMX400, their latest sensor.
Originally, the camera only recorded up to 5120×[email protected] and properly scale down from there, which was already a big stretch, but then the IMX400 came out, and recorded [email protected] This made things easier: that sensor could already do 5120×[email protected] if it scaled the res/fps properly, but it didn't, so the only difference between that one and my concept, is that my concept has more res options (including 21:9 ones and QHD), and scales properly (I did the maths myself. Some scalings make undesirable frame rates, so there's the option to just go with the closest multiple of 60 admitting one decimal off). As hard as pulling this camera off would be, I still think it's possible if they really worked hard on it and cared about us customers.
Also, all res/fps options are both in real time AND slow motion, so you could record blazingly smooth [email protected] videos, or super slow ones.
Also, I gave it all focus methods at the same time. kek.
Rotatable cameras already exist (link)
Software:
I thought it would be paradise if a phone already came with the option to be rooted, so there it is, although a form would have to be filled saying you agree to use it carefully just as you would in a desktop operating system.
The manufacturer would take the responsibility to bake every "extra feature" normally baked into a custom UI into an Xposed module, that includes the "gaming mode" business.
Also, the “brick-and-bootloop-proof technology” mumbo jumbo is just an algorithm that analyzes and stops any modification that will prevent the phone from booting/being usable, and if it somehow does, it recognizes the error and reverts to stock rooted image.
The manufacturer would promise to update all content immediately after an update arrives (for android and other software), and since it’s stock android it wouldn’t be that hard.
Storage:
NVMe mobile SSDs already exist in Iphones (link)
Cooling:
Also, there is already a liquid cooled laptop, so I stretched that concept too. There's also a liquid cooled phone, too, although very obscure (link) And having a stylus+liquid reservoir+USB type-c adapter combo just seemed so efficient and awesome to me. What would happen to the liquid when the stylus/reservoir is removed? It would work this way: removing the stylus requires pressing a button that would move the liquid to the empty space left by the stylus, whilst ejecting it. So the liquid would still be on the phone after you eject the stylus, now on the empty space where the stylus used to be.
Battery:
For such a powerful phone I gave it a 6500Mah battery (explosion-proof guaranteed because of Samsung screw ups, lol) (here's a phone with a 10900mAh battery. If that phone can have a 10900mAh battery, than surely they can fit a 6500mAh in this one).
Rest:
The extreme water proof limit was made up, expandability up to 1tb was made up, and 5G support was also made up. The particular modules were also made up.
I gave it loss-less capabilities in every aspect possible, but maybe it would be better to leave to such a skilled company the job to make a more efficient loss-less algorithm than FLIF, FLAC and loss-less video codecs.
The whole purpose of this phone is to be what the customer wants, not what the manufacturers and the CEOs want. It's not about profiting, it's about making the users happy, while making only the necessary amount of profits.
This was really crazy and goofy, but still, it was fun making this. Please share your thoughts: if you think it would be possible for now/near future, if not, then when do you think it would be possible, how much would it cost, how thick would it be, etc! Constructive criticism is welcome! Thanks for reading ;D

Interesting no replies ever. I'm not an inventor but it's fun to dream. I think you are on to something here. I'm going to submit pure conjecture right now. Here it is early 2022. About a year ago LG closed it's phone shop. It seemed like they announced they had a prototype of a rollable display and the next moment they announced they are done with the phone business. Now I'm not a conspiracy geek but that sounds like something shut them down as soon as they announced rolling display technology. What does anyone have to say?

vivo X9 hands-on: an ultimate smartphone for selfie lovers

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The good:
Elegant design and great build quality
Gorgeous display
Superb front-facing cameras
Hi-Fi sound
The bad:
Expensive
The rear-facing camera lacks OIS
The Snapdragon 625 processor isn’t future-proof
No NFC
While other smartphones are battling it out on the benchmark front, vivo, a Chinese smartphone brand which ranks at No.5 in the world in terms of shipment, takes a very different approach in marketing their products. The vivo X9 is one of the newest additions to their “camera & Music” smartphone line. Rocking dual front-facing cameras, the X9 is anticipated to attract consumers with ultimate enthusiasm for selfies.
Key features of the vivo X9
• 5.5″ Super AMOLED of 1920*1080px resolution
• 20MP & 8MP dual front-facing cameras with moonlight LED, F2.0 aperture
• 16MP autofocus camera with LED flash, F2.0 aperture
• 4K video recording (both front and rear cameras)
• Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 (octa-core 2.0 GHz Cortex-A53, Adreno 506 GPU)
• 4GB of RAM, 64GB internal storage
• Funtouch 0S 3.0 (on top of Android OS v6.01)
• AK4376 DAC
• Dual SIM, dual standby
• 2G Network: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
• 3G Network: HSDPA
• 4G Network: LTE, TD-LTE
• Wi-Fi 802.11, Wi-Fi Direct, dual-band, Wi-Fi hotspot
• Bluetooth v4.1
• USB host (dongle required)
• Standard 3.5 mm audio jack
• 3,050mAh irremovable Li-Po battery
Retail package and Accessories
The vivo X9 comes with very elegant packaging and lots of accessories. Inside the box you will find a phone, a charger, a cable for charging and data transmission, two protective cases and two screen protectors.
Design and build
At a glance, the X9 looks like just another extremely refined smartphone from vivo: a large display is dominating the front, and there is relatively small bezel around.
The only major difference you will instantly notice is that there are dual front-facing cameras now, both located on the left side of the ear piece. On the right side, you will find a light sensor and a moonlight LED flash.
There are some less obvious differences which makes the X9 more aesthetically pleasing than its predecessors: the width of the bezel on the left and right side is only 1.59mm each, compared to the 1.82mm of the vivo X7. The black frame around the display has also been reduced. The corners are more rounded, as well.
There is an oval Home button below the display, with a built-in fingerprint reader embedded in it. This key is both capacitive and physical, and offers decent key travel when pressing on it. The oval home button on my Samsung S7 Edge often failed to read my fingerprints due to its narrow reading area, fortunately I haven’t experienced the same problem with the vivo X9, thanks to the relatively larger reading area.
The bottom side plays host to a Micro USB port, stereo speaker gates and a 3.5mm headphone jack. It is quite disappointing that vivo decided to choose a Micro USB port instead of a more advanced USB Type-C port for its latest phone. As the latter becomes increasingly popular, it is for certain that Micro USB will be abandoned in the near future.
The power button and volume rocker are hosted on the right side, both of them are very easy to locate and offer tactile feedback to the users.
On the left side is a SIM Tray slot, you can use the stock tool to take the SIM tray out.
As you can tell from the picture above, the X9 supports using dual nano-SIM card in one phone.
The uniqueness in the X9’s design is more pronounced on its rear side. The plastic strips which allow signals to travel through are now located more towards the top side and bottom side, giving the back of the phone a more unified look. The rear-facing camera does pop up a little, but as the lens is covered by sapphire glass, it won’t get scratches easily. If you are still concerned, the cases which can be found in the retail package will save you from those worries.
The vivo X9 measures 152.6*74*6.99mm, about the same dimensions as the Samsung S7 Edge (150.9*72.6*7.7mm) and One Plus 3 (152.7x74.7x7.35mm), more compact than the Apple iPhone 7 Plus (158.2*77.9*7.3mm). Using the phone with one hand shouldn’t be a problem for most people, and for folks with smaller hands, there's a one-handed mode that resizes things onscreen to make apps easier to reach. The X9 weighs 154g, also about the same as the Samsung S7 Edge (157g) and One Plus 3 (158g), significantly lighter than the Apple iPhone 7 Plus (188g). Thanks to the balanced weight distribution, the X9 feels even lighter than the number suggests.
The build quality of the X9 is amazing. The front side of the phone is covered by Corning Gorilla glass 5, which is super resistant to scratches, and may be able to survive many occasional drops. The metal structure also feels extremely solid.
Display and sound
The X9 rocks a 5.5-inch Super AMOLED display at the resolution of 1920*1080px. Although it is not the most cutting-edge in terms of pixel density, as most of the flagship smartphones have 2K displays now, it was still impossible for us to pick out individual pixels while using the phones in a normal distance. Putting the phones in a VR set we started to notice the difference, as my Samsung S7 Edge does look a lot sharper and more natural than the X9.
Despite the lower pixel density, the display of the X9 is still breathtakingly gorgeous. Like most AMOLED panels, the color saturation and contrast ratio here are simply great, you get very deep black and rich tones. The X9’s display looks generally more pleasing than most of the LCD panels used on other smartphones, as everything appears more vivid and alive.
Viewing angles are excellent as well, looking at the display from an extreme angle the colors are still not distorted. The brightness of the display is also great, you won’t have any problem using it outdoors in direct sunlight.
One of the major selling points of vivo smartphones is Hi-Fi. The X9 features an AKM4376 DAC to boost its audio performance. Specs-wise, this converter isn’t really so impressive as the quad-core DAC used in the LG V20 or the dual ES9028 DAC used in vivo’s very own Xplay 5. But coming from the S7 Edge, my audiophile ears did notice a significant improvement in overall sound quality when plugging in my B&O H3 in-ear monitor. The bass has a lot more punch, the vocals are crisp clear, instrument separation and positioning are as good as some of my earlier DAPs. I even asked a few of my non-audiophile, iPhone using friends to try listening to music with the X9, all of them actually said that the X9 sounded a lot better than their iPhones, although they couldn’t really pinpoint what the differences were. Acoustic nuts may still find their DAPs with Amplifiers irreplaceable, but for average smartphone users, the X9 is certainly one of the best phones out there to enjoy music.
On the speaker front, the X9 is also outstanding compared to many other smartphones. Not only are the built-in speakers louder, but the sound coming from them also has more clarity, layers and strength. Enabling the “Super Audio” mode in the settings, the X9 can sound as loud as some of the portable speakers and laptops, very impressive given the phone’s relatively small footprint.
System, UI and Apps
The X9 runs Android 6.01 Marshmallow out of the box, with a heavily customized skin called “Funtouch OS 3.0” on top. I know many folks prefer stock Android skin to those customized UIs, but vivo has really taken measured steps into developing their own UI, especially for the Chinese customers.
Like many customized skins, the Funtouch OS doesn’t include an application drawer, everything lays on the homescreens. Users can create folders to keep them in order.
And personalization freedom is what the X9 gives a lot of: You can rearrange the navigation buttons and even add extra ones. You can make the on-screen keyboard larger or smaller. You can hide the icon of the apps which you don’t want people to know that you are using. You have many interface themes to choose from. There are the so-called signature wallpapers, generated around the first initial of the user. And the list goes on.
Like I said earlier, many of the features of the Funtouch UI are tailor-made for Chinese customers, whether vivo will use a different UI on the units for oversea market is still unknown. Fortunately, this is Android and you can always install third-party launchers such as Google Now launcher to get the stock Android experience.
Cameras
Most of smartphone makers have realized now that people need better front-facing cameras for selfies. That’s why you get greatly improved front cameras on the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, the Apple iPhone 7 and many other flagship smartphones. However, no brand went as far as vivo did, as the newly released X9 has featured dual front-facing cameras: a 20MP primary camera complemented by an 8MP secondary camera and a moonlight flash, arguably the best selfie camera setup on any smartphone currently available. The 20MP front-facing SONY IMX376 CMOS lens is in charge of taking the picture and capturing all the details, while the 8MP sensor deals with blurring the background.
To everyone’s delight, the impeccable specs do translate into outstanding selfies. The dual front facing cameras capture lots of details and very rich colors under optimal conditions. HDR is available for those tricky scenes and it works pretty well.
The vivo X9 easily crushes other market-leading smartphones when it comes to taking photos with the front-facing cameras.
Even in low light conditions, the selfie cameras are still usable, thanks to the front-facing moonlight LED flash, which provides just the right amount of illumination to light up your face without dazzling your eyes.
The X9 adopts a 16MP SONY IMX298 Exmor camera with F/2.0 aperture on its rear. The lens offers a sensor size of 1/2.8" and a pixel size of 1.12μm, and has been commonly featured on lots of flagship smartphones such as the Xiaomi Mi5, Huawei Mate 8 and One Plus 3. The camera focuses fairly quickly, has a fast shutter and takes nice photos in general.
In automatic mode, images are not as sugarcoated as the photos taken by some other smartphones. There are no excessive amounts of contrast or saturation to the photo, and sharpness is also kept at a reasonable level. As a result, photographs are natural, delivering a very close representation of reality. Unfortunately, the rear-facing camera on the X9 isn’t accompanied by optical image stabilization, which is now a standard feature for flagship smartphones. As a result, ghosting and blurs could happen when you are not holding the phone steadily.
The camera app also offers lots of effects and modes for the users to play around with. The users are provided with 7 modes and dozens of different filters when shooting with the rear-facing camera, including the popular time-lapse photography. With the front-facing camera, the users has many different beautification functions to choose from as well.
Videos taken by the X9 look fine, with lots of details and rich colors. The phone is also capable of taking smooth 4K videos.
Performance
The heart of the vivo X9 is a Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 Octa-core processor clocked at 2.0GHz, beating alongside 4GB of RAM. It's not quite the Snapdragon 820 and 821 you'll find in those mainstream flagship Android smartphones, and the differences did show in benchmark tests.
In the Antutu V6.0 benchmark test, the X9 was returned a score of 61,544, far below the scores of the One Plus 3T and Samsung S7 Edge, and also many points behind the LG G5 SE. Only when compared to entry level smartphones such as the Meizu M5 Note and Huawei P9 lite, the X9 could have an advantage.
On the Geekbench 3 benchmark, the X9 scored 785 in single-core performance and 4,050 in multi-core. That's definitely nowhere near the Samsung S7 Edge and One Plus 3T in either category.
In the more graphics-focused 3DMark, the X9 scored 13,829 in the Ice Storm Unlimited test and 473 in the Sling Shot ES3.1 test.
In the PCMark Work 2.0 test, the vivo X9 was returned a predictable score of 4,780.
The X9 has 64GB internal storage, which is very generous considering many flagship smartphones only have 32GB storage on board. However, the eMMc 5 used here is not as fast as the UFS 2.0 used on high-end smartphones, the Androbench test scores told the difference. As you can see from the chart above, the X9 doesn’t match high-end smartphones in terms of Sequence Read Speed, but its Sequence Write Speed is actually quite similar to those flagships.
Fortunately, the benchmark scores didn’t entirely translate into real-world performance, as the X9 felt almost as fast and responsive as the Samsung S7 Edge while dealing with everyday tasks such as social networking, video feeds and web-browsing. The only difference that I noticed was it did take a little longer to install an application, and screen rotation didn’t happen as instant as it was on the S7 Edge.
Running graphics-intense 3D games, which I didn’t always do myself, the differences showed. Hiccups and lags did happen with big titles such as GTA: San Andreas, NFS17 and Asphalt 8, and we did notice significantly extended loading time and lower frame rates. With that said, the X9 still handled most of the games pretty well: Temple Run, Plants VS Zombies, Vitua Tennis and many other popular titles were as fast as they were on those cutting-edge smartphones.
Multitasking was generally fast, and the X9 could hold many applications in the background for a relatively long period of time, thanks to the 4GB RAM. Switching between applications on the X9 was not always as instant as it was on the S7 Edge, but for average users, the difference was ignorable. The internals may seem adequate for most people now, but with the upgrades of Android and many applications, how long will the Snapdragon 625 be able to keep everything running smoothly on the X9 is simply unknown.
Battery life and charging
The X9 has an irremovable 3,050mAh battery under the hood, pretty average for a 5.5-inch phone. As the X9 sports a more power-conservative processor, we actually expected it to do very well in battery life. Unfortunately, the result was just not as promising as we had hoped.
In the battery rundown test, in which we streamed full-screen videos over Wi-Fi with screen brightness and speaker volume at maximum, the phone lasted 5 hours and 38 minutes, which is 1 hour shorter than the S7 Edge’s result in the same test. In my nearly two weeks of testing, the X9 could power through a full day of moderate use, with around 30% charge remaining when I decided to call it a day. For intense smartphone gamers, carrying a mobile charger will still be inevitable.
The nice thing is, the X9’s battery consumption has been kept at minimum during standby. I once connected the phone to Wi-Fi and left it on my desk to receive messages and alerts for 12 hours, the battery only dropped 2%.
The X9 supports vivo’s very own dual-engine charging (5V-2A or 9V-2A), which supports up to 18W input, so topping up the battery takes very little time. With the stock wall charger, it only took around 1.5 hours to fully charge the phone.
Cellular and connectivity
The vivo X9 supports all major cellular networks, you can just insert any SIM card into the slot and start using the phone immediately. There are two Nano SIM card slots on board, which means the phone supports dual standby.
Like all other smartphones, the vivo X9 also features Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth, and all of them work like a charm. There is no micro SD card slot for you to expand the storage, but the 64GB internal storage should be sufficient for most users. For me, the real disappointment is the missing of NFC. Users with the latest iPhones and Galaxy S phones should know how convenient Apple Pay and Samsung Pay are, and with the X9, you may never be able to use similar functions. Lots of new speakers and wireless headphones also features NFC for faster pairing with the smartphone, but with the X9, you will still need to take a number of steps to get them paired, shame on vivo!
Competitions
The vivo X9 is priced at RMB2,798 ($406) in China, and in the same price range you will find many powerhouse smartphones. Although none of them offer equally impressive front-facing cameras, they do make up with horsepower and other unique features. The One Plus 3T features a Qualcomm Snapdragon 821 processor clocked at 2.5GHz, 6GB RAM, 64GB UFS2.0 storage and 3,400mAh battery. The nubia Z11, which is powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 processor, has a breathtaking bezel-less design and the same AK4376 DAC. The Xiaomi Mi5s (Enhanced Edition) features a Snapdragon 821 processor, 4GB RAM, 128GB UFS2.0 storage, and a cutting-edge ultrasonic fingerprint scanner. Affordable flagships aside, many mid-range offerings run more capable chips like the Snapdragon 65X. Even the X9’s predecessor- the vivo X7 - is powered by a Snapdragon 652.
Verdict
For $406, the vivo X9 represents a really attractive mid-range offering. It has a simple and elegant design, great build quality and while performance isn't quite up to the level of its similarly priced rivals, it offers fantastic acoustic experiences and arguably the best front-facing cameras on a smartphone.
If you are looking for a future-proof powerhouse handset which will do very well in benchmark tests and intense 3D gaming, there are many affordable flagships out there, some of them priced even lower than the X9. But if you rank selfies and music as your top priorities, and horsepower is far down the list, then you won’t be disappointed with the vivo X9.

Hello, how can I change (or add) other language instead English and Chinese? My phone does not have google play and services. Is there a ROM with this stuff? Thanks!

Some Guy's Review: Smartisan Nut R1 vs. OnePlus 6

Well, it has been sometime since I have done a Some Guy Review. It's actually been years, so let's see if I still got what it takes to review these 2 equally great phones.
As always, I have no brand loyalty or affiliation. I bought the phones with my own dime, so it's not like I am "hamming" it up for a company that sent me a free phone or swag. I'm neither Fanboy or iSheep, use both Apple products and Android on a daily basis. These our my observations based on "real world" usage. Although I'll refer to some stats and specifications, I won't AnTuTu or whatever you to death. With that, here's the tale of the tape:
OnePlus 6
Basic parameters
Dimensions
155.7x75.4x7.75 mm
Weight
6.2 ounces (177g)
Material
Glass
Colors
Mirror Black/ Midnight Black/ Silk White / Red
Operating System
OxygenOS based on Android™ Oreo
CPU
Qualcomm® Snapdragon 845 (Octa-core, 10nm, up to 2.8 GHz), within AIE
GPU
Adreno 630
Notification Light
RGB LED notification light
Vibration
Haptic vibration motor
RAM
6 GB / 8 GB LPDDR4X
Storage
UFS 2.1 2-LANE 64 GB / 128 GB / 256 GB
Sensors
Fingerprint, Hall, Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Proximity, RGB Ambient Light Sensor, Electronic Compass, Sensor Core
Ports
USB 2.0, Type-C, Support USB Audio
Dual nano-SIM slot
3.5 mm audio jack
Battery
3300 mAh (non-removable) Fast Charging (5V 4A)
Buttons
Gestures and on-screen navigation support Alert Slider
Audio
Bottom-facing speaker
Noise cancellation support
Dirac HD Sound®
Dirac Power Sound®
Unlock Options
Fingerprint
Face Unlock
Connectivity
LTE/LTE-A
DL 4CA/256QAM, UL CA/64QAM, 4x4 MIMO
Supports up to DL CAT16/ UL CAT13 (1Gbps/150 Mbps) depending on carrier support
Bands
FDD LTE:
Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66/71
TDD LTE: Band 34/38/39/40/41
TD-SCDMA: Band 34/39
UMTS(WCDMA): Band 1/2/4/5/8/9/19
CDMA: BC0/BC1
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Check carrier compatibility
Wi-Fi
2x2 MIMO, Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, 2.4G/5G
Bluetooth
Bluetooth 5.0, support aptX & aptX HD
NFC
NFC enabled
Positioning
GPS, GLONASS, BeiDou, Galileo
Display
Size: 6.28 inches (The corners of the screen are within a standard rectangle. Measured diagonally, the screen size is 6.28 inches in the full rectangle and 6.12 inches accounting for the rounded corners.)
Resolution: 2280 x 1080 pixels
Aspect Ratio: 19:9
Type: Optic AMOLED
Support sRGB, DCI-P3
Cover Glass: 2.5D Corning® Gorilla® Glass 5
Features
Adaptive Mode
Reading Mode
Night Mode
Lift Up Display
Camera
Rear Camera - Main
Sensor: Sony IMX 519
Megapixels: 16
Pixel Size: 1.22 µm
OIS: Yes
EIS: Yes
Autofocus: DCAF
Aperture: f/1.7
Rear Camera - Secondary
Sensor: Sony IMX 376K
Megapixels: 20
Pixel Size: 1.0 µm
Autofocus: PDAF
Aperture: f/1.7
Flash
Dual LED Flash
Video
4K resolution video at 30/60 fps
1080P resolution video at 30/60 fps
720P resolution video at 30 fps
Super Slow Motion: 1080p video at 240 fps, 720p video at 480 fps
Time-Lapse
Video Editor
Features
Portrait, Pro Mode, Panorama, HDR, HQ, Dynamic Denoise, Clear Image, RAW Image
Front Camera
Front Camera
Sensor: Sony IMX 371
Megapixels: 16
Pixel Size: 1.0 µm
EIS: Yes
Autofocus: Fixed Focus
Aperture: f/2.0
Video
1080P resolution video at 30 fps
720P resolution video at 30 fps
Time-Lapse
Features
Portrait, HDR, Screen Flash, Smile Capture, Face Beauty②
Multimedia
Audio Supported Formats
Playback: MP3, AAC, AAC+, WMA, AMR-NB, AMR-WB, WAV, FLAC, APE, OGG, MID, M4A, IMY
Video Supported Formats
Playback: MKV, MOV, MP4, H.265(HEVC), AVI, WMV, TS, 3GP, FLV, WEBM
Recording: MP4
Image Supported Formats
Playback: JPEG, PNG, BMP, GIF
Output: JPEG
Smartisan Nut R1
Capacity and memory
LPDDR4X dual channel
UFS 2.1
6 + 64 version
6GB of memory
64GB body storage
6 + 128 version
6GB of memory
128GB body storage
8 + 128 version
8GB of memory
128GB body storage
8 + 512 version
8GB of memory
512GB body storage
8 + 1T version
8GB of memory
1TB body storage
Body size and weight
Height = 153.3mm
Width = 74.5mm
Thickness = 7.9mm
Weight = 170g
Processor platform
Qualcomm® SnapdragonTM 845 processor
10nm advanced process
Single core frequency up to 2.8GHz
AdrenoTM 630 graphics processor with clock speed up to 700MHz
Equipped with artificial intelligence engine (AI Engine)
Cellular network
Dual card dual standby full Netcom
All Netcom supports China Mobile, China Unicom and China Telecom
Support VoLTE high quality broadband calls
Support for three-carrier aggregation
Support for LTE B41 4x4 MIMO
Network standard Support band
4G FDD-LTE B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B12 / B17 / B18 / B19 / B20 / B25 / B26 / B28
TD-LTE B34 / B38 / B39 / B40 / B41 (Note: B41 supports 2535MHz-2655MHz band)
3G WCDMA B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B6 / B8 / B9 / B19
TD-SCDMA B34 / B39
CDMA BC0 / BC1 / BC6
2G GSM B2 / B3 / B5 / B8
CDMA 1X BC0 / BC1 / BC6
Dual card support and full Netcom
Dual Nano-SIM card slot, any card slot can be set as the main card
Dual card is not limited to operators, can be 4G in the network
Support mobile, China Unicom, Telecom 4G+/4G/3G/2G
Support dual-card dual standby VoLTE, support China Mobile, China Telecom VoLTE HD voice service
Support China Telecom dual card VoLTE standby
Note: The VoLTE service needs to be activated at the same time as the primary and secondary cards. If the secondary card is not activated, there will be no service, and the primary card will not be affected.
SIM card installation instructions:
Nut R1 mobile phone uses Nano-SIM card
Insert the card pin to eject the card slot
Two Nano-SIM cards can be placed
The Nano-SIM card obtained with the card cutter may cause a bad communication signal, and the resulting problem is not covered by Hammer Technology's warranty.
Wireless and network
802.11 a/b/g/n/ac wireless network supporting 2.4 + 5GHz band
Support for WLAN 2x2 MIMO
Support WiFi Direct and WiFi Display
Bluetooth 5.0
GPS / Assisted GPS, GLONASS, Beidou Positioning System
Support wireless network positioning and cellular network positioning
NFC+eSE, support for card reading, card writing, card emulation and P2P mode
Battery and fast charge
Typical value 3600mAh
Support QuickCharge 4+ 18W fast charging
Support PD3.0 charging protocol
Support fast wireless charging, peak output power up to 10W
screen
6.17-inch In-Cell Full HD display
2242 x 1080 resolution, 403 ppi
Corning® 3rd Generation Gorilla® Glass
1500:1 contrast ratio (typical)
96% NTSC color gamut (typical)
Full coverage Display P3 wide color gamut
Support sunlight screen, clearer viewing under strong light
Support eye protection mode, reduce screen blue light
Support for adjusting screen color temperature
Support pressure sensing touch
Unlock and fingerprint
Fingerprint unlock
Rear capacitive fingerprint reader
Response speed of 0.17s
Up to 10 fingerprints can be entered
Support WeChat and Alipay fingerprint payment
Face unlock
Front camera face recognition
1024 feature dimensions can be detected
Face++ contempt face recognition algorithm
Rear camera
12 million pixels + 20 megapixel dual camera
Double high index flash
ArcSoft real-time background blurring algorithm
Almalence super resolution algorithm
TDK Invensense Video Image Stabilization Algorithm
HDR high dynamic range adjustment technology
Main camera
Sony IMX363 sensor
12 million pixels
1.4 μm large pixel size
ƒ/1.8 large aperture
6-piece lens
Support 4-axis optical image stabilization
Support Dual PD speed focusing
Secondary camera
Sony IMX350 sensor
20 million pixels
1 μm pixel size
ƒ/1.75 large aperture
6-piece lens
Front camera
24 million pixel four-in-one front camera
ƒ/2.0 aperture
ArcSoft background blur algorithm
AI real-time beauty algorithm
Video shooting
Front camera: 1080p FHD video camera, 30 frames per second
Main camera: 4K (resolution 3840 × 2160) video camera, 30 frames per second
1080p FHD slow motion video camera, 120 frames per second
Audio Player
AI intelligent noise reduction chip
Stereo surround sound release system
Types of Support audio file format Support audio decoding format
audio format MP3, AAC, AMR, DTS AAC/AAC+/eAAC+, MP3, NB-AMR, WB-AMR, DTS
Lossless format AIFF, ALAC(Apple Lossless), FLAC, APE, WAV, DFF, DSF ————
Video playback
Encoding Support audio encoding format Support video file format Details
HEVC (H.265) AAC-LC .mp4, .mkv, .webm, .ts, .3gp Support 1080P, 240 fps
up to 4K (4096X2160) resolution 60 fps
Main Profile 8 bit up to level 6
Main Profile 10 bit up to level 6
H.264 .mp4, .mkv, .webm, .ts, .3gp, .mov Support 1080P, 240fps
up to 4K (4096X2160) resolution
60fps up to Level 5.2 encoding
H.263 .mp4, .avi, .3gp, .mov Up to Profile 0, Level 70
MPEG-2 .avi, .mkv, .webm, .ts Up to 1080P, 30fps, Main Profile encoding
MPEG-4 .mp4, .mkv, .webm, .avi, .3gp, .mov Up Simple Profile Level 6 encoding
up to Advanced Profile Level 5 coding
VP8 AAC-LC, Vorbis .webm Support 1080P 120fps
up to 4K (4096X2160) resolution 30fps
Profile 0 (Main), Version 0-3
VP9 .webm Support 1080P 240fps
up to 4K (4096X2160) resolution 60fps
Profile 0 8-bit
up to level 5.1 Profile 2 10-bit
up to level 5.1
Xvid .avi, .mkv Advanced simple profile up to level 5
Sensors and algorithms
Gyro
Gravity sensor
Geomagnetic sensor
Ambient light sensor
Hall sensor
Ultrasonic proximity sensing algorithm
AI audio noise reduction algorithm
Touch and feedback
Support pressure sensitive touch technology
Linear vibration motor
Support 72 scenes, 21 vibration effects
operating system
Smartisan OS based on AndroidTM deep customization
Supported languages: Chinese Simplified, Chinese Traditional, English, Japanese, Korean
Review to Continue on next post :good:

Review
Design
Looking at both phones, they're strikingly different, each with their pluses and minuses. Both are "notch" phones which absolutely does not bother me. I know some people have like nightmares about phone notches sneaking into their house at night and murdering their families... I do "not-ch". Hahahaha. Anyway, the OP6 goes with the curved rounded edges whereas the Nut R1, that's right "Nut" R1, goes with the candy bar straight rectangle look akin to Sony Xperia many iterations. Neither are revolutionary by any means, its just preference. The OP6 is definitely heavier by stats but feels more so in hand then the Nut R1. The OP6 is slightly larger too. Both not too large where its a must to use 2 hands all the time, but for my comfort, the Nut R1 feels better. Nut R1 goes with individual buttons for power, volume, etc. The OP6 has the rocker button for sound and the very impressive programmable slider button. The Nut R1 does have a special button on its left hand side but at least for me now (until maybe I figure a few things out) I can't change it to be used for something useful yet, so really it's a space waster. OP6 notch is larger as well. NOTCH!!!!!!!!!
UPDATE 07/14 - Figured out the special button on the Nut R1! Boy was I wrong! This button along with some other button press combinations allows you quick access to 2 features that are only found on the Nut R1. The first is call "Idea Pills." Essentially, throughout your normal day, if you have to jot something down or need to make not of something, pressing and holding the button allows you to make a voice note. It then transcribes that note which then can be used in the note app, the calendar app or any host of other apps. You can make voice recordings all day then simply with a right to left swipe of the screen on the right hand edge, you can see all your notes and reminders. It's pretty cool. Of course, other button combos with this special button do other functions: with power button is screen shot, with up volume can turn on the phones flashlight and then with volume down + special button gives you direct access to a very slick and cool feature called "one step." One Step is a cut- paste drag & drop feature that lets you fairly seamlessly send messages, access your favorite apps & contacts, etc. while linking them to your pictures, notes, etc. There's a pre-loaded video that is in Chinese of course but you can idea by what the person is doing in the video. Awesome!
Verdict: Dead Heat - I favor the design of the Nut R1 slightly more however it having a Bixby button that right now I can't program sucks. OP6's slider button is awesome! Hard to pick a winner....
UPDATED Verdict: Nut R1 - Knowing the idea pills and one step feature now makes this phone a productivity champ with the special button... Bixby Button it is not!
Display
From the stats, both phones have similar resolutions. The OP6 of course has AMOLED FHD+ as opposed to the Nut R1's FHD+ IPS LCD. OP6 display is slightly larger (thus the slightly better pixel count). This is definitely one of the most subjective portions of the review. For me, even though the OP6 had the AMOLED Display and AMOLED is just better and we're supposed to just accept that. The Nut R1 out of box with no tweaking (like putting into different mode or putting sRBG on) looks truer. Whites look white and blacks look black. OP6 has a larger chin especially if you opted to lose the the virtual buttons on the Nut R1 for gestures. Both have a hide notch mode for the upper portion of the screen however the notch for the Nut R1 is significantly smaller. Both handle the notch differently for alerts. The Nut R1 acts as if it is one complete screen across the top opting to show the alerts with a void where the notch is as opposed to treating the before and after notch screen portions as 2 completely separate spaces like the OP6. I'm not 100% sure of which way I prefer but there's definitely a difference. The Nut R1 seems brighter in the sun although there's no lumen stats to compare which one should be brighter. The one failure that the Smartisan R1 does have is that the polarizer over the display was applied in the wrong direction or maybe is not there at all... what does that mean? Well, if you put on a pair of polarized sunglasses, guess what, black screen unless you angle the phone in an awkward position to see. I have reached out to Smartisan on this and awaiting their reply. Plan on trying a tempered glass screen protector to see if that helps.
UPDATE 07/14 - Tried tempered glass screen protector and it fixed the polarization issue! Even though I can never put one of these on without some dust or something getting caught under the screen. Ordering a few more so I can hopefully put one on cleanly. Talking to Smartisan, they're gonna send me some protectors too, just have to pay for shipping (as soon as they figure out how I can do that)! Still gonna say that the OP6 is the better display, however with a cleanly placed screen protector on it it makes it super hard not to change the verdict!
Verdict: OnePlus 6 - The Polarizer issue is a non-started for me as all my sunglasses are polarized. It's slightly better that I have Android Auto so I don't necessarily have to deal with it too much in the car. However, during an outside concert or festival, etc. so annoying to have to lift off my sunglasses just to use the phone. Stay tuned, this may change if there's a simple workaround. Otherwise, for inside use not having to deal with sunglasses, my preference is the Nut R1.
Camera
As I always try to state before diving face first into the shallow pool of phone cameras, I am not a fan of phone cameras as opposed to actual cameras. I went to school for photography so it is quite hard for me to say " this phone take better pictures than this phone..." Both / All, IMO, are grainy noisy messes compared to their actual camera counterparts. With that said, this is another area where I feel both phones are fairly equal. OP6 uses a 16M + 20M f/1.7f dual rear camera setup. The Nut R1 uses a slightly less spec'd 12M + 20M f/1.8 & f/1.75 setup. The Nut R1 however crushes the OP6 with its 24M f/2.0 front camera as opposed to OP6's 16M f/2.0 front camera. What's this all mean? Nothing.. We're talking about some small differences here with the rear camera setups. Spec-wise the OP6 is better, but a lot also goes into what software is processing the pictures for you. I will post some test shots in a later post. As far as the camera software themselves, both are fairly decent with their share of annoyances and/or postives. The Nut R1 requires you to rifle through the different modes to get to the setup menu, minor annoyance. The OP 6 software feels more basic though whereas the Nut R1 looks more professional. I am not going to make a judgement. I'll just post samples of each and let you tell me. For video, OP6 does let you shoot at 60fps for 4K. The built-in software for the Nut R1 only allows 30fps at 4K. Not a huge deal, I am sure the Nut R1 has the 60fps capability which may work with other camera softwares, it just not there out of the box. I don't necessarily do that mush video recording where the 4K difference is going to hurt me, but that's me... again your decision. I will update this section a little more after the the test shots as I dig deeper which both cameras.
Verdict: Is Still Out! - I'll let you look at test shots. I'll update and then maybe decide on which is better IMO.
Software / Essentials
This always the hardest section to write about as I could fill a book looking at both phones take on Android Oreo. Here's the thing, I'm gonna touch on what I feel gives a person interested in the 2 phones a good understanding and leave the details to anyone that wants to comment later. :silly: As most are aware OP6 runs OxygenOS, pretty vanilla take on Android Oreo without very major differences from what runs on the Pixels... It's definitely one of the better OS takes on Android out there. Styled nicely with great customization and unlocking capability for our developer community. Stable, nice however maybe a little boring. SmartisanOS on the Nut R1 is your quintessential chinese born ROM OS. High customization so much so that it can make your head spin. Strict focus on battery saving and notification light experience means you definitely have to do some tweaking to get things the way you like it.
What's the same between the two?
1. Both are fast. No lag to speak of. This ain't touchlagwiz
2. Both allow for 3rd party launchers fairly easily. Sometimes this is not so easy with china born phones but not in this case
3. As far as I can see, good support on updates... Got 2 so far from Smartisan, one as soon as I setup the phone and the other yesterday, fairly quick considering I only had it about 5 days. OP6 has had 2 updates. OnePlus has been notorious for supporting updates frequently when a new product launches but then dropping support for older models. They have vowed to change that but so far so good.
4. Both have Face Unlock & Fingerprint Unlock as well. I believe that OnePlus would contend that their Face Unlock is more secure and it probably is. The fingerprint scanner of the Nut R1 is huge making it very easy for scanning placement whereas the OP6 is a little undersized. Nut R1 used their branding as a functional part of the phone... quite clever!
What's Different?
1. SmartisanOS out of the box does not come with google services or play store, it is however very easy to install and get your favorite play store google apps cooking.
2. Google Pay does not work. This is standard for China Born ROMs and won't change until such time that Google Pay is allowed in China. I have a Gear S3 watch that I just setup Samsung Pay on as my workaround.
3. Notification Shade toggles off between either toggle buttons like your bluetooth, data, airplane mode, etc. or notifications shade... no stack like most are used to... not a big deal, but some might be bothered
4. No Notifications on the lock screen or at least I haven't figured out how yet. With face unlock being so fast, I never hardly see the lockscreen anyway.
5. Notifications in shade won't let you expand them in the shade.
6. Shade color and theme not changeable and it is white on Nut R1
7. Cannot change default messaging app on Nut R1. The default app is fairly nice and you can always install Android Messaging. Android messages does work just not as default
8. The Nut R1 (and actually any Smartisan phone) are not water resistant or water-proof. This was confirmed by Smartisan's Customer Service. Doesn't really bother me since I don't even try to get "waterproof" phones wet. $500 plus experiment whether your phone is waterproof or not, no thank you. At any rate, don't go jumping in a pool with the Nut R1 in your pocket! :crying:
Items Left to be Explored on the Nut R1
1. Smartisan says they support openSSL and that they have no issues with bootloader unlock. They said details are in the openSSL forum. Just don't know where that is... might be on their forum site which is immense.
2. Looks like Google Camera works and works well with this phone. Haven't tried myself yet but Smartisan Forums say you can just use the original apk download for google camera
3. Full battery life, connection strength and a host of other functionality items
VoLTE appears to work for me on TMobile, not wifi-calling though. Maybe it is wifi calling when on VoLTE and connected to wifi but it does not give indicator as such.
Of course, the big missing item from the OP6 is wireless charging. Nut R1 does have qi charging capability although the coil placement is slightly weird.
Geez, is that a lot... there is so much more but rather not keep on going. Please ask if you have questions!
Verdict: Nut R1 - You had me at Qi... why oh why did OP6 did you not include wireless charging on a glass backed phone. Although some may say bloat, there's cool stuff built into the Nut R1... plus whats looks to be the ability to unlock means let flashing begin! (Even though I'm not going to figure out how to do that anytime soon)
Cost & Value
Understandably nowadays, a new phone comes out every month worth looking at. Apple manages to keep their values up because you only get 1 refresh per year without any other competition. Benefit of controlling the hardware and software in a closed system. Android on the other hand has 100's upon 100's manufacturers. From that, you basically have the newest phone with the latest gadgets. More RAM, more drive space, etc. In recent years, the rise of Chinese manufacturers has even added to the dilemma of phone value to the money paid out. Xiaomi, Smartisan, OnePlus, ZTE & Huawei just to name a few are offering quality phones at better prices making it hard to justify a $800+ flagship phone. Samsung can no longer keep trying to command iPhone prices for their phones and expect success. Even the mighty iPhone is starting to feel the pinch of the growing China manufacturing phone market. Apple made money off of the iPhone X, their first $1000+ phone, but not as successful as previous versions even with some new innovation. With that said, both the OP6 and Nut R1 are a decent investment for the hardware you're given at the price point under $700. Both Snapdragon 845, both dual camera, quick charge, etc. makes them compete at the level of LG and Samsung without having to look to lease from your carrier. Ultimately, this gives you freedom from your carrier to be truly contract free. The resell value of the Nut R1 is a little more dicey than OP6 given OP6's name recognition and availability here in the United States. Could I go on swappa and sell the Nut R1, maybe...? I know I can sell the OP6, but probably at a 20% loss. Neither phone is a no-brainer for resell so investing in either will need to be an investment to get away from being under your service providers thumb more than anything. Is that enough even at these prices points to justify in getting either one of these phones? That's definitely a question to consider... especially when the Android phone with max stats, new bell or whistle and the hype train is just a month away...
Verdict: Nut R1 - Ultimately it's cheaper... even when you take into consideration no water resistance value. Nut R1 does have Qi which is absent from OP6. If water resistance is the straw breaking the camels back, then of course OP6 is better. Not as many accessories for the Nut R1, which might be a blessing more than a curse. No proprietary fast charging meaning you have to get a special charger like OP6 (for the car in particular).
Ease of Everyday Use
This section is a little weird for most people so let me explain. We have all have interactions with technology on a daily basis. From the alarm that wakes you up in the morning, to the coffee maker that makes you coffee to even the toothbrush to brush your teeth with, there's hardly a space in modern life where technology isn't already taken a foot-hold. Sometimes the technology can be obtuse, hard to use, hard to understand and even harder to save you time. Others we just have to live with... like modern cars, with 133 years since deployed, they are conceptually the same... in other words, they still ride on the ground. Yes,we have self-driving cars, cars that run on hydrogen, etc. etc. but no flying cars? No cars that could hover? Much like the phone market, technology is starting to hit a wall where stats of operating speed, RAM and other such items which use to be the tantamount reason to buy a phone no longer matter. It's the bells & whistles making the ad campaigns. These whistles and bells ultimately are being added to make daily use easier and more productive besides providing a higher quality product (like phone cameras for instance). OP6 does this in one of the simplest way (complex is not always better), the slider button. The ability to move from silent to vibrate to sound on is such a great experience with the phone. Even though you can program the button to do whatever you want, the default setting maybe all you need. The beauty of the OP6 light interpretation of vanilla Android helps to give the phone a great user experience. Much like Apple (and don't throw any at me), the OP6 works great, the way it's intended to right from the packaging. Although the ability to tweak, bootloader unlocking and flash ROMing are present. It is hard to justify taking the time to do so with such a well-rounded phone already. The Nut R1 on the other hand is slightly harder to crack, pun intended. Because of its Far East roots, it provides extreme customization from day 1. Do most people want to spend 2 days to fully setup their phone? Probably not. However, the Nut R1 gains some distinct advantages with for daily use from this. From my experience, battery life is better on the R1 than the OP6 since it has a slightly smaller screen and a slightly larger battery. More so, the extreme customization helps the software do a better job at battery monitoring and apps in memory running leading to better battery life as well. Then there's one step and idea pills to through in the mix again. These 2 software "enhancements", bells and whistles, whatever... saves time and adds productivity into the phone. It's not without one caveat. You need to figure these features out on your own (unless you know Mandarin). OP6's water resistance helps out too... if and when you might be presented with the problem of having your phone out in rain. Both phones show that they can get the job done daily.
Verdict: Dead Heat - If only the OP6 had Qi or the Nut R1 was water resistant, my job of deciding would be easy. :good: Unfortunately, it isn't that way...
Overall & Summary
Verdict: Smartisan Nut R1 or maybe not... :silly:
In all honesty, it is hard for me to decide a clear winner here. I have both phones and I'm still not sure which one I'm gonna put up on swappa and get rid of. This tells me I like something about each that ultimately makes me not want to get rid of either. Usually when I do these reviews, there's a clear cut winner. For this one, I can truly say either one is a home run based on the specific use case you need. Want something to develop a ROM, bootloader unlock, go with the OP6. Need something to be productive daily with while you're on-the-go and not sacrifice any performance at a very reasonable price, then the Nut R1 should efintely be considered. Finally, need a phone with 1TB of storage... guess what, the Nut R1 is your phone. I really haven't talk to much on the fact that you can get the Nut R1 with the unbelievable amount of UFS 2.1 storage of 1TB. I did not get it in that option (wish I could have got the 512GB if I could have found it reasonably priced) as I don't need that much space plus the $1000+ price tag is just slightly to much for me . You on the other hand might be a photo taking, song downloading junkaholic with no problem throwing a $1000 down then 1TB is right in your ball park. Most articles hype the Smartisan Nut R1 for the 1TB and miss the truly great phone underneath. Same can be said about the OP6 in another way. Articles typically about the newest "flagship killer" OnePlus has to offer look at why it's not a "killer" because its missing this or that or whatever feature... Yes, I did the same for Qi charging... so I'm to blame too. I just feel this year more than ever with the OP6 design change to a glass backed phone is just inconceivable not to have Qi. However, I have found a way around that also to find another awesome phone. Really, the winner here is all of us. Smartisan and OnePlus prove that you can make a quality product with top specs at prices most can afford. Samsung should be scared... Once again, this is just some guys opinion.

Some Quick Samples From Nut R1
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BOKEH FEATURE

in the little time with the R1 i can say i prefer the HDR being off for most picture situations , and looking over pictures i took with my OP6 i had i think the R1 has a very (very very ) slight advantage. especially in Bokeh shots.
Excellent Review as well!

MixEvo said:
in the little time with the R1 i can say i prefer the HDR being off for most picture situations , and looking over pictures i took with my OP6 i had i think the R1 has a very (very very ) slight advantage. especially in Bokeh shots.
Excellent Review as well!
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Thanks! I believe for bokeh this is also correct from my shots so far. Can’t say about HDR. Gonna try google camera as I understand it has good compatibility

Very comprehensive review and lovely kid. Good job, OP.

jerryhou85 said:
Very comprehensive review and lovely kid. Good job, OP.
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Thanks appreciate it!

Very good review, one of the more detailed ones i've seen, but you missed a tiny detail about the R1.
It's the first phone to ever have Dirac Panorama Sound and also it has 3 speakers (according to FoneArena).
And that TNT Worstation is also a bonus.

Myrmeko said:
Very good review, one of the more detailed ones i've seen, but you missed a tiny detail about the R1.
It's the first phone to ever have Dirac Panorama Sound and also it has 3 speakers (according to FoneArena).
And that TNT Worstation is also a bonus.
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Yeah I used to do a sound section but mine used revolve around whether the Bluetooth played fine with my car. Since upgrading to a head unit with android auto, I just worry about the compatibility with that system. Btw it works great with android auto. A lot of Huawei and even the pixel 2 xl have sucky compatibility with android auto. Since xda did an article on the Dirac, I kinda of left that out too. As far as the TNT, I knew about the feature but personally don’t have one to see how cool or not cool it is to comment. Thanks for reading. I think if others got a chance to see this phone in action they would buy it in a heartbeat. Smartisan said they support bootloader unlock too but said something about open source. I really didn’t find anymore then that. The translations of posts on their forum site can sometimes be hard to get the full meaning of the conversation. Thanks again!

Yeah, i forgot about XDA's article.
Anyway, i'm personally gonna wait a bit before buying a new phone. This seems like the best choice so far (especially the 1TB version), but i wanna see how stuff goes around here. If there would be custom kernels, xposed modules, custom ROMs, etc.

Thank you for the review and after read this i'm going to buy this phone, but i just worry about vietnamese display problem on chinese phone, some vietnamese text maybe not display right way, can you go to web address GENK.VN (sorry i can't post link) and take a screenshot about how this phone display vietnamese? thank so much

Pinokm412 said:
Thank you for the review and after read this i'm going to buy this phone, but i just worry about vietnamese display problem on chinese phone, some vietnamese text maybe not display right way, can you go to web address GENK.VN (sorry i can't post link) and take a screenshot about how this phone display vietnamese? thank so much
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If only I hadn't boxed it up over the weekend... Sold it to someone so that I can move in to my next phone to review... sorry. Try smartisan on facebook messenger. They are quick to respond. :highfive:

mahst68 said:
If only I hadn't boxed it up over the weekend... Sold it to someone so that I can move in to my next phone to review... sorry. Try smartisan on facebook messenger. They are quick to respond. :highfive:
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Can you link me to the correct Facebook page? Would love to ask about boot loader and treble support.

DQEight said:
Can you link me to the correct Facebook page? Would love to ask about boot loader and treble support.
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Start a conversation in Messenger: m.me/145041519488759

Vivo X50 Pro+ User Review

After nearly one month of use, I decided to write an initial review of Vivo X50 Pro+. The main reason is that Vivo as a part of the Chinese BBK Electronic concern is the least known brand in the west, and I believe unjustifiably.
There are three brands under BBK - Vivo, Oppo, and OnePlus. While the first two were at the beginning success only in the Indian market, the last one is well known in the west too. In fact, it was intended for the west and OnePlus phones were known to bring the most bang for the buck except for the average camera (supposedly no more).
And even Oppo made a great breakthrough with the last models. Only Vivo is left behind.
So why buying a Vivo phone if you are not from the east? And why buying X50 Pro+ exactly?
There are many good reasons for this. Let’s look at them closely.
Design
Even I have to admit I’m anything but a fan of the curved screen (my dream phone design is the Nokia 9.3 concept (https://www.phonearena.com/news/nokia-9-3-pureview-5g-concept-renders_id124342) I accept the reality for the time being and I really hope that that madness evaporates quickly. The curved screen is unpractical (distortion and false touches around the corner) but at least I managed to improve the phone outfit by buying a nice case for a few euros. I bought a model with the glass back (glass back is the second design failure I’m fed up with it’s heavy and fragile). There is a really stunning X50 Pro+ model with faux camel leather but then, I’m not yet prepared to go naked, exposing the back of the phone and especially all precious cameras to all unpredictable harsh situations. Hence I bought a really nice case instead of having an exceptional designed phone.
Display
OK, the part of the phone design is a display. X50 Pro+ comes with a nice E3 AMOLED panel with DCI-P3 color gamut, supporting 120Hz high refresh rate and 240Hz touch sampling rate, and has a peak brightness of 1300nit It also supports HDR10+. The E3 means that the display adds 8% to energy efficiency and has reduced blue glare. Otherwise, it has vivid full colors and sharp picture, which is well seen even under the direct sun. It has a small unnoticeable hole for the front camera, adjustable refresh rate, automatic brightness control, night mode, and three adjustable manifestations: home screen, lock screen and always-on display. What I miss is a chance to put your email on the lock screen, you know, it might be helpful if you lose the phone.
Camera
It is a while when the Vivo camera has been the last time evaluated on DXO. And I’m yet to try the camera in all its functionality. But I’ve already had a chance to compare the shootings with the Huawei P40 Pro and I have to say that I’m impressed. The main sensor among the four is the GN1 camera of Samsung, which supports Dual PD and Tetracell technology, which has 50 million pixels, a single pixel of 1.2μm. The output is 12.5 million pixels, and the single-pixel is 2.4μm, which increases the light sensitivity by four times. ISOCELL GN1 has Samsung’s pixel isolation technology ISOCELL Plus, which uses a physical barrier to isolate the pixels so that more light is collected by the microlens and then absorbed by the pixel’s photodiode.*The result is higher color fidelity and higher sensitivity, bringing natural tones and shadows to high-resolution photography. There is a 13 megapixel portrait camera, which has an f/2.4 aperture, a focal length of 50mm, and a double zoom. The 8 megapixel sensor offers 5x optical and 60x digital zoom. Panoramic pictures, on the other hand, can be taken with the 8-megapixel wide-angle lens.*On the front side, there is a 32 megapixel front camera, which offers an f/2.4 aperture.
Battery
I must admit, I’m immodest as far as the battery is concerned. I came from the Huawei Mate 20X side, I had a 5mAh battery, I’m not a gamer, rather a surfing addict. But surprisingly I noticed that Vivo manages consumption rather well without compromising performance. I manage through a long day easily, usually, I have enough power for two consecutive days.
Hardware
As you might know, X50 Pro+ uses to date the last SoC of Qualcomm, the SM8250 Snapdragon 865 (7 nm+). My phone comes with the 256GB ROM 12GB RAM UFS 3.1. It is fast, reliable, and smooth. The 4G antennas cover all common world bands (exceptions are band 20 of EU and more exotic US bands - like TM 66, 71, V 13, 46, 48, 66 and ATT 14,29,30,66). It is understandable, the phone is meant for Asian markets. And it supports both SA/NSA 5G frequencies 1, 3, 41, 77, 78, 79. That means that it had to cover the most common 5G specter in EU (where it exist) and one 5G band from Sprint (41) for TM in the USA.
Otherwise, the X50 Pro+ has both VoLTE and WoWiFi enabled and it must support Netflix too (I don’t use it). The nice move from Vivo is Wifi 2.4 and 5 aggregation and smooth switching from wifi to mobile when needed.
Software and customization
As expected X50 Pro+ comes with a lot of Chinese applications hardly usable anywhere else. Most of them could be removed from settings, others are removable (and retrievable) with adb shell pm uninstall --user 0.
After thoroughly removing unwanted apps there are negligible Chinese traces remain. One is, for example, when you get deeper into the weather app, you eventually come to the pure Chinese site. Otherwise, the weather is from the Accuweather and very reliable.
The launcher is not bad even if it is not as polished as Huawei’s. It supports gestures, themes, and customization. For more customization, you have to get a theme editor, which functionality is more limited than Huawei’s one. You can replace the stock launcher with the custom one. I didn’t decide to replace it yet, it has some useful feathers. I want to mention that I prefer stock Calendar, Clock, Weather, Albums over the Google ones. And the overall design is nice, I just wanted material icons, which I prefer smaller though. You have a native voice recorder with the phone and really nice messages application, which I haven’t replaced with Google’s even than the last now got RCS in my country. Not to mention very useful note applications with text, voice, picture options, and even OCR which works surprisingly well with foreign languages.
So why switch from Huawei to Vivo?
I admired Mate 20x in the time of acquisition but after two years I started to believe in the combination of a smaller lighter phone together with a tablet when needed. But that is not the main reason. As we all know Huawei lost GMS support. I guess I could live without the majority of Google applications. But I strongly consider the phone as a tool which should be sufficient to replace payment instruments, cards, tickets, personal documents, and keys. In my opinion, this is the second most important role of phones besides getting information.
And all this is now jeopardized if you possess a Huawei phone. Vivo is a completely different story. The company is not in dispute with the US administration and the X50 Pro+ is completely capable to serve the purpose. Despite poor and misleading knowledge of a vendor I bought it from it has full GMS support and it matches CTS profile completely. Google Assistant works flawlessly as well as Google pay.

Thanks for the great review!
Can you post some low light photos in full resolution?

So it passed SafetyNet test?

Are you able to get volte when making calls and does tap to pay work for google pay?

maxant69 said:
So it passed SafetyNet test?
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Yes, totally.

Princevelyn said:
Are you able to get volte when making calls and does tap to pay work for google pay?
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Google pay works in stores without any problem.
Regarding VoLTE and VoWiFi I couldn't test it before because my operator doesn't support it. It says next year every year for about 5 years.
I borrowed a sim and try it but I couldn't enable either of them. I need more time to find out why.

From which store did you buy it?

dazed1 said:
Thanks for the great review!
Can you post some low light photos in full resolution?
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So far I like Vivo X50 Pro+ camera but I haven't had much opportunity to test it in all possible circumstances yet. But I did a short comparison between photos taken with the Vivo and those taken with the flagship Huawei P40 Pro. Compared photos are attached, I tried to evaluate them. I'm not a professional photographer but some differences are obvious even for an amateur. But, please, make your own opinion about the results and I'll be glad if someone more skilled than me participates with his (hers) own comment about the results.
So these are my observations:
HV1 - standard cameras were used, Vivo expresses better dynamic range;
HV2 - standard cameras, better Vivo's dynamic range, but a thin cloud covered the sun during the second shot;
HV3 - thin fog in the valley - zoomed pictures, Huawei's camera has a larger zoom;
HV4 - wide shots - pretty equal results;
HV5 - standard cameras - equal results;
HV6 - Wide cameras - equal results;
HV7 - 5X zoom on both cameras - Huawei expresses better dynamic range;
HV8 - close pictures - more vivid colors from Huawei;
HV9 - standard cameras - better dynamic range from Vivo;
HV10 - wide cameras - better dynamic range from Vivo;
HV11 - zoom on both cameras - better dynamic range and sharpness from Vivo;
HV12 - normal shot in almost total darkness - brilliant exposure and sharpness from Huawei;
HV13 - night shot in almost total darkness - brilliant exposure and sharpness from Huawei;
HV14 - normal shot in almost total darkness - brilliant exposure and sharpness from Huawei;
HV15 - night shot in almost total darkness - brilliant exposure and sharpness from Huawei;
HV16- close objects in darkness - brilliant exposure and sharpness from Huawei;
HV18 - semidarkness with the normal shot - brighter but less sharp and with distorted colors picture from Huawei;
HV20 - semidarkness with the night shot - brighter but less sharp, less dynamic range and with distorted colors picture from Huawei;
I must add an explanation:
All pictures are taken on the point and shoot principle. I reckon that I could take a better full dark picture with X50 Pro+ if I would have really tried to keep my hands still that critical seconds when the picture has been developed. Another remark: X50 Pro+'s camera is really fast and that counts a lot, sometimes almost all. This Samsung's GN1 is a brilliant feature, it never made me wait to shoot under the daylight, as Huawei did. Just pointing and shooting, that's it. Maybe occasional lag and consequential shaking make Huawei daylight pictures what they are.
All four X50 pro+'s cameras were done their job taking into account that no phone camera right now is able to compete with Huawei's Leica and AIS configuration in a totally dark environment. I'm truly impressed.
Due to the limitation of the forum, I split pictures into 3 zips and will be posted separately.

The second packet is following.

piskr said:
The second packet is following.
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And the third one..:laugh:

Thanks so much brother!

maxant69 said:
From which store did you buy it?
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It's Trading Shenzhen ( https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/vivo-x50-pro-x50-pro-x50). Although it is from Hongkong It has a few EU offices, gives warranty (it works, I tried it for Xiaomi tablet), and delivers at least to EU duties free (global shipping) in about 3 weeks.

dazed1 said:
Thanks so much brother!
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No worries. Should you have any questions just ask.

Princevelyn said:
Are you able to get volte when making calls and does tap to pay work for google pay?
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That issue with VoLTE and VOWiFi - I'm still none the wiser so far...
Maybe someone with more experience could help. All indicators show that it works but actually, it doesn't.
Look at the attached pictures. I used 2 sims, one was mine and it doesn't support either VoLTE or VOWiFi, and the other is my wife's which supports both and has both activated (works with her phone).
And now take a look at settings. With my sim, both VoLTE and VOWiFi settings are missing (case it doesn't support any of them), and with other are shown and activated. The same it is apparent from Secret Phone Settings app.
But the fact is that in both cases when calling, radio falls back from LTE to 3g. Really weird.
I'll try to search Weibo, that's the only possible remaining source of advice that I could remember...

piskr said:
That issue with VoLTE and VOWiFi - I'm still none the wiser so far...
Maybe someone with more experience could help. All indicators show that it works but actually, it doesn't.
Look at the attached pictures. I used 2 sims, one was mine and it doesn't support either VoLTE or VOWiFi, and the other is my wife's which supports both and has both activated (works with her phone).
And now take a look at settings. With my sim, both VoLTE and VOWiFi settings are missing (case it doesn't support any of them), and with other are shown and activated. The same it is apparent from Secret Phone Settings app.
But the fact is that in both cases when calling, radio falls back from LTE to 3g. Really weird.
I'll try to search Weibo, that's the only possible remaining source of advice that I could remember...
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Yeah that is the problem I am having with my vivo nex 3 and there is no support for volte, when I contacted vivo customer service they said that the Chinese rom version was not able to have volte enabled and that is only supported cdma carriers with volte. Thanks for the in-depth look though !!!

I new it! One of the very best phone cameras on the market right now: https://www.dxomark.com/vivo-x50-pro-plus-camera-review-aiming-for-the-top/

Finally we get much anticipated and more thorough review:
https://www.gsmarena.com/vivo_x50_pro_plus-review-2170p3.php
I have a few remarks though:
Importing X50 Pro+ is not such hassle;
Audio from mono speaker may not be superior (for mono not bad either) but dedicated hifi chip makes miracle and dominates both via wired and Bluetooth earpieces - in my opinion that's far more important;
Funtouch is far better, customizable and closer to stock than miui - miui on my tablet was so buggy that I was just lucky enough to have a chance to root it and totally replace the system with lineage;
Not to mention Oppo regarding camera, performance and customization - it's significantly behind X50 pro+;
And Xiaomi Ultra camera is not such surplus - check Dxomark analysis;
Huawei is another story but it is right now hit hard with lack of mobile services.

It works on TMobile 5g network in usa?

Yes, it works. Yesterday I had opportunity to test 5G on band 41 and it worked. T-Mobile uses this band aquared from Sprint.

How is battery life? How many hours screen on time?

108MP camera incompatible with MediaTek Dimensity 800U?

The more i read about the Motorola Edge 20 Fusion, i more i want to buy it, but there is a piece of information which i would like to make sense of.
The phone comes with a 108MP main shooter, but the phone's MediaTek Dimensity 800U SoC only supports cameras upto 64MP.
I need to understand what this means in a technical sense:
Will the phone, using either the default camera app or some other app, for eg. OpenCamera, be able to shoot 108MP images?
If not, are (108 - 64 = )36 megapixels just going to be dummies which won't be used at all?
If the whole sensor is going to be used, how is the SoC going to handle the raw data from the sensor? Will the SoC process the raw data in parts?
Is this going to keep the 108MP sensor from realising its full potential?
I am not basing my buying decision on the camera's megapixel count, it may be a marketing gimmick anyways. I know that megapixel count doesn't always translate to picture quality. My current phone, a Motorola G5S Plus has a 13MP rear cam and that megapixel count is enough for me. I am basically going for this phone for the screen and the stock Android experience.
I just need to understand if this is an indicator for any issues etc. which i should know if i buy the phone.
Thanks.

Z0MB!E said:
The more i read about the Motorola Edge 20 Fusion, i more i want to buy it, but there is a piece of information which i would like to make sense of.
The phone comes with a 108MP main shooter, but the phone's MediaTek Dimensity 800U SoC only supports cameras upto 64MP.
I need to understand what this means in a technical sense:
Will the phone, using either the default camera app or some other app, for eg. OpenCamera, be able to shoot 108MP images?
If not, are (108 - 64 = )36 megapixels just going to be dummies which won't be used at all?
If the whole sensor is going to be used, how is the SoC going to handle the raw data from the sensor? Will the SoC process the raw data in parts?
Is this going to keep the 108MP sensor from realising its full potential?
I am not basing my buying decision on the camera's megapixel count, it may be a marketing gimmick anyways. I know that megapixel count doesn't always translate to picture quality. My current phone, a Motorola G5S Plus has a 13MP rear cam and that megapixel count is enough for me. I am basically going for this phone for the screen and the stock Android experience.
I just need to understand if this is an indicator for any issues etc. which i should know if i buy the phone.
Thanks.
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So i have already bought the edge 20 fusion. But even before buying it i was extremely confused when i saw that 800u does not support a 108 mp camera.
I even searched for this on the internet on various forums, but there was nothing. I guess no one else had noticed that till now.
So i went ahead and bought it anyway as i am a Stock android fan and also just like you ,i wanted to experience the 10bit Amoled screen.
So I think that it maybe a marketing gimmick because the camera performance is definitely not like a 108 mp unit, actually far from it. Lets just say it's bad.
Only good thing about it is that, it performs decently in natural light in the outdoors.. that's it.
BUT
if you are going only for the screen and the stock android experience, you won't be disappointed. The screen is really THE BEST in this range. No complaints with the OS as well.
I don't regret buying the phone. But yes, camera should be better at this price (maybe software updates can optimise it a little)
I found no other issue(software or hardware). The battery performance is also very impressive.
Make of it what you will.
I hope this helps

Hi,
I have also purchased Moto Edge 20 Fusion and using it for around 1 month now. Excellent phone. Regarding Primary Camera they are doing Pixel Binning and providing 12 MP photos. They are also using sensor for giving better low light images. There is also option to select full resolution which gives 80 MP image which has size of 12 to 14 MB.
They still have work to do on camera app which moto is working on. In their forum they have said that a update for camera is in the works and soon they will release the same. After the update hope everything will fall in place as far as camera is concerned.
Following are the points in which it accels -
1. Display
2. Battery ( It lasts for 36 to 48 hours for me with SOT ranging from 7 to 9 hours which is damn good
3. Stock Android
4. Hopefully Camera (after the update)
5. 3.5 mm Jack
6. 30W charging with Charger and type c to type c cable included
7. Thinkshield mobile Security