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The Cube T9 hands-on review - a great 4G tablet, but no longer a game changer

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Cube offers what can seem like a bewildering array of tablets, including the standard Wi-Fi only Android tablets, the business-oriented iWork series and the cellular and phone-equipped Talk ranges. The T9 and the T7 are the latest offerings from the Talk series, although Cube did simplify their communication names. The 9.7-inch T9 reviewed here delivers a strong set of features and is a serious competitor for the Xiaomi M1 Pad and the Samsung Tab Pro 10.5. With 32GB of internal storage and full phone functionalities, the T9 costs only RMB1,499 ($244).
Cube T9 main specs:
 OS: Android 4.4
 Display: 9.7-inch IPS, 10-point multi-touch, IGZO
 Screen Resolution: 2048 x 1536 (4:3)
 CPU: MediaTek MT8752 octa-core processor (8 cores of 64-bit Cortex-A53)
 CPU Frequency: 2.0GHz
 GPU: ARM Mali-760MP2
 RAM / Storage: 2GB / 32GB
 Function: WiFi, Bluetooth 4.0, GPS, A-GPS, OTG, Miracast, FM Radio
 WiFi: 802.11 b/g/n, WiFi hotspot
 GSM: band2, band3, band5, band8
 TDS: band34, band39
 WCDMA: band1, band5
 TDD: band38, band39, band40, band41
 FDD: band1, band3, band7
 Camera: 5MP back camera, 2MP front camera
 Battery: 10,000mAh
 Ports: TF Card Slot, SIM Card Slot, Micro USB Port, 3.5mm Headphone Jack
 Weight & Size: 610 g / 237 x 170 x 8.9 mm
Design
The Cube T9 isn’t exceptionally thin and light, measuring 8.9mm thick and weighing 610g, it is much thicker and heavier than its predecessor – the Cube Talk 9X, which measures at 7mm and weighs only 560g. This certainly doesn’t give the T9 an immediate appeal, if you're making comparisons on these grounds. The reason why the T9 is so thick and heavy is that Cube uses both die casting roll cage and metal anti-roll frame, which are designed to protect the internals of the tablets from collision and impact.
The screen sits in a relatively thin bezel, which can result in unintended selections when holding the tablet in portrait mode. But while you hold it in landscape mode, there is enough bezel to rest your fingers on. The 2MP front-facing camera is located above the display, along with a tiny light sensor to help auto-adjust the brightness of the display.
The edges of T9 are silver-colored, which looks unappealing on our black review sample. In portrait mode, the top edge is home to the 3.5mm headphone jack and a micro SD card slot. The power button, the volume rocker slot are located on the top of the right edge of the slate, while the SIM tray is located on the bottom of the right edge.
The side-facing speakers are located on the right end of the bottom edge, which is pretty smart design as the speaker gates won’t be easily blocked by your hands however you hold the tablet.
The stippled plastic rear, which looks exactly like the back of the Samsung Galaxy Tab S, does the T9 no great favors, either. Although Cube insists that this design is inspired by the surface of a golf ball, and improves the grip of the tablet, still, we are not impressed.
The 13MP camera and an LED flash is located on the upper left corner of the rear side.
Overall, the T9 lacks the premium appeal the Cube Talk 9X was once famous for.
Display
The 9.7-inch IPS LCD screen is the same 2,048-by-1,536 resolution with 264ppi as the iPad Air, we can’t say we are astonished with this amount of pixel offering anymore as we have already seen lots of tablets from China with 9.7-inch Retina displays by now, and there are also lots of tablets with much higher pixel density on the market at the moment.
Unfortunately, the quality of the T9’s display isn’t as amazing as Cube advertised. The contrast ratio doesn’t match it is on the super clear PLS display on my Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 and, with an explosion-proof film on top of the touchscreen, the display looks annoyingly grainy at times, especially when you are viewing a web page with white background color.
With that said, it is far from being a terrible display. Colors are a lot more relaxed than those seen on some of Samsung’s AMOLED devices, and viewing angles are also quite amazing.
The T9’s screen is fairly bright that we only need the brightness slider set at 30% or lower most of the time, the auto-brightness option works well too.
Sound
The side-facing stereo speakers are one area where the T9 under-delivers. They are quite loud, but the sound quality is disappointing, especially when compared to the Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro or the iPad Air. This is a pity as it means the tablet isn't really up to delivering music and movies without the help from an external audio system.
System and apps
The Cube T9 runs stock Android 4.4.4 Kitkat OS, with limited customizations made to the icons. Preinstalled applications are kept to the minimum as well.
App selection is the biggest reason to hesitate about the T9. It isn't bad by any means, and is no better or worse than any other Android tablets, with the Google Play Store's solid selection on board. It's just that when you compare it to the iPad's App Store, you'll see that the Play Store's tablet selection still has some catching up to do. Unlike those 7-inch tablets, which still works and looks perfectly fine running smartphone apps, The T9’s spacious 4:3 display can make some applications look distorted and unappealing.
Performance
Inside the Cube T9, there're a 1.7GHz, 64-bit MediaTek MT8752 octa-core processor and 2 full GB of RAM. Although it by no means the most cutting-edge design, it is still a very beefy set-up.
Benchmarks tell the story. The T9 scored 40,272 on the Antutu system benchmark and 3,401 on the Geekbench3 processor benchmark, as compared with around 30,000 and 2,117 for the Cube i6, and 34,810 and 2,296 for the Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4.
On the Vellamo HTML5 benchmark test, the tablet scored an impressive 2231, which is in the same class as the even the highest end of Android devices.
In the 3DMark Ice Storm graphics benchmark, the T9 scored 8,768 points, clearly no match for the MAXED OUT performance the Intel powered Cube i6 presented. This did tell the true story that the Mali-760MP2 GPU didn’t compare to the cutting-edge offerings such as the Qualcomm Adreno 330 or the Imagination PowerVR 6xxx series, but it was still a great improvement over the Mali-450MP4 GPU used in the last generation of MediaTek octa-core chipsets.
Tablets and phones that run stock Android often provide day-to-day performance that’s better than the devices with heavily customized interfaces. The slate performs like a champ most of the time -- as long as there are lot too many apps running in the background. There are some minor, intermittent pauses before the contents of menus pop up, but little-to-none of the very basic interface scroll lag we’ve seen in those entry-level tablets and smartphones. It does take a while to come out of standby at times, though, which can get annoying.
During mass auto-updates, updates would freeze mid-download like frozen apps mid-download. Even though it has a zippy octa-core CPU and 2GB of RAM, it is still easily overwhelmed when pushing its performance to maximum. But it is more of a problem of the multi-tasking enhanced Android operating system rather than a defect of the Cube T9.
Reading and browsing
The squarer 9.7-inch display is perfect size for browsing content-heavy webpages and reading E-magazines, and the capable MT8752 processor doesn’t disappoint. Loading graphic-intense web-pages happens fairly quickly, dragging and zooming the page itself feels as smooth as silk, There are little to none lags in turning pages of even the most gigantic PDF file.
Gaming
As long as we kept background apps to a minimum, gaming performance was fast and smooth. Large games like NFS 17 opened quickly and levels loaded within a few seconds. While playing Riptide, the tablet reacted quickly, making tight turns and sharp movements in real time.
Video Playback
A screen with 4:3 aspect ratio isn’t really ideal for video playback, as most video files come in widescreen, which result in a lot of wasted screen real estate when we play 1080P videos on the T9. Fortunately, with Cube’s rich experience in making MP4 players, the T9 has incredible video codec support.
Almost all media files with basic video codecs (i.e. DivX). MKV, AVI (XviD) and MP4 videos play smoothly through T9’s video player. You can change the zoom mode (100% or fit to screen with and without affecting the video's aspect ratio) and there's a pinch zoom too, in case you want to get close up on a specific part of the action.
If subtitles are available, the video player will automatically find and load them. You can also manually load subtitles, if the video and subtitle file names don't match.
Connectivity
The T9 features dual 4G support (FD-LTE & TD-LTE), which means you get up to 150Mbps of downlink and up to 50Mbps of uplink speeds. It also covers dual 3G (WCDMA & TD-SCDMA) and 4 bands of GSM.
It also features Wi-Fi a/b/g/n/ac support, with 2.4GHz and 5GHz band compatibility. Wi-Fi Direct and DLNA support are also available as well as GPS and FM Radio. Bluetooth 4.0 is available for local data transfer, too.
There is a micro SD card slot as well, on top of the 32GB of internal storage.
The T9 naturally supports USB-on-the-go, but you will need to buy an additional adapter for that. The tablet can work with USB storage, USB mice and keyboards. Of course, you can always hook up a Bluetooth mouse or keyboard to the slate without relying on the cable connection.
You can also mirror your tablet screen on the bigger HDTV via Wi-Fi Direct and the widely supported Miracast protocol - that would even allow you to play mobile games on the biggest screen in your living room.
Just like the T7, the T9 supports OTA firmware upgrade, you will receive the notification whenever an update is available.
Battery life
First and foremost, the T9 is a brilliant tablet for battery life with a very large 10,000mAh capacity inside, full stop.
Untouched, the device will last a really long time as it holds its charge extremely well. When you do use it, it doesn't jump off a cliff like a brainless lemming either. You'll get about 9 hours of screen time. This is an average, as it depends on how bright you set that super high-res screen. You'll get less if you ramp it up but even more at lower levels.
Either way, it's a great performer in this area and means the T9 is a good choice for those wanting to travel without their tablet dying on them half way through a flight or a car journey where the tablet is entertaining kids in the back.
In our standard cngadget battery test, where we play a 1080P video on loop with 30 percent brightness while having notifications for email turned on, the T9 lasted 9 hours and 5 minutes, which is almost on par with the longevity the Talk 9X could deliver. Neither tablet can come anywhere near the Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5, though, which gives you two more hours of screen use between charges.
Cameras
The T9 has two cameras, the norm for any high-quality tablet. It uses a 13-megapixel rear camera and 2-megapixel front camera.
We think a tablet like this is much too big to be used as an everyday camera, but otherwise it offers pretty good shooting. There’s very little shutter lag, focusing is snappy and you get a few additional modes. There’s HDR, panorama, beauty face and object tracking.
While not up with the best smartphones in terms of image quality, they're much better than the tablet average. Here are a few samples:
The T9 also has an LED flash, which some tablets lack. The T9’s front camera isn’t too bad either – you don’t need more for standard video chat, although some phones are starting to use higher-resolution 5-megapixel front cameras for better selfies.
Conclusions
There is no doubt that T9 is one of Cube's best tablets yet, and, though it is not so stylish and record-breaking as its predecessor – the Cube Talk 9X, it's still a great slate with solid specs and excellent build quality.
Back in 2012 when Rockchip’s RK3066 dual-core A9 processor dominated the tablet industry in China, a few tablet makers already began to sell tablets with 9.7-inch retina display. The struggling performance and recurrent lags from those offerings lead to a generally negative impression of Chinese tablets with a high-resolution display. But powered by enhanced processors coming out in 2013 and 2014, high-res tablets are finally good.
With dozens of tablets released this year, Cube certainly hasn't made choosing a tablet easy. Is the T9 enough to make Talk 9X or i6 users to switch? Certainly not. However, unless you've already bought a tablet in 2014, the T9 will give you plenty of reasons to go for it and the beefy processor is just one of them.
If you like the T9’s specs but not the size and weight, you can also go smaller with the Cube T7, which has almost identical internal set-ups, aside from a smaller 7-inch screen and significantly smaller battery to fit into the tinier body.
The good
Solid build quality.
Amazing battery life.
Smooth performance delivered by the beefy processor and 2GB RAM.
32GB internal storage with Micro SD card support.
A nice rear-facing 13MP camera.
OTA upgrade.
The Bad
Not slim or light by today’s standards.
No HDMI on board.
The explosion-proof film on top of the touchscreen makes the display look annoyingly grainy.

Hi, but the Cube T9 4G tablet support LED flash?

Annie Y said:
Hi, but the Cube T9 4G tablet support LED flash?
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Cube T9 support LED flash, you can look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y93zqo0sJo

man!
got this one today, but can't root it!
even drivers for windows (debug mode) aren't available...
anyone any ideas?

Cant root t7 either
Tried oneclickroot
Root genius
iroot formerly vroot
Kingo root too
Doomlord please help I'll send ya my tablet to root if you fancy a challenge
Sent from my GT-I9305 using XDA Free mobile app

Yo dude!
I've just rooted it with vroot (iroot)
Just get google debug drivers and install them manualy
And itoot will do the rest
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app

awesome

Does it play Hearthstone?

root cube t 9 4g
Hi,
you got it!! nice one.
could you explain how you did it?
filiphch said:
Yo dude!
I've just rooted it with vroot (iroot)
Just get google debug drivers and install them manualy
And itoot will do the rest
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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My contribution:
The good
Battery
Smooth performance
OTA upgrade
4G
The Bad
The screen lacks much precision !!!! may be due to proof film ???
Only 2 Go allowed to internal storage (system and app) can't install app on the rest or on sd card ::> http://forum.zopomobileshop.com/thread-1412-1-1.html ????
bug
Reboot alone

Seems great
This tablet seems great for my use, however the screen precision mentioned in this threat, worries me a bit. Could you confirm it?
The battery life is really a selling point for me.

ferdyfist said:
This tablet seems great for my use, however the screen precision mentioned in this threat, worries me a bit. Could you confirm it?
The battery life is really a selling point for me.
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I've got totaly no problem with precision
i can click any small detail on screen without error
realy nice tablet
just be aware of 2gb limit of app space
otherwise tablet is super!

So no screen issue? All clear and such?
Can you confirm the battery life as well?
And the small app storage should be able to be repartitioned, I hope.
I btw saw somewhere, that this was able to record in 4k? Not that I believe it, but is the camera good, both for video and photos?

ferdyfist said:
So no screen issue? All clear and such?
Can you confirm the battery life as well?
And the small app storage should be able to be repartitioned, I hope.
I btw saw somewhere, that this was able to record in 4k? Not that I believe it, but is the camera good, both for video and photos?
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Nope -> I <- have got totaly no issues with the screen...
My previous tablet was Onda v975m, and the battery life is a tyni bit longer now
Let's hope together then for repartitioning
4k? Nah...
Camera is realy wierd... only default camera software gave me the ''full hd'' video... android camera could do it only in low res.
Photos of front camera are the same as other chinese tablets
I wouldn't buy it for camera xD
But if you need to take a photo outside in bright daylight, it will be ok with hdr turned on
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Just read
http://www.freaktab.com/showthread.php?20643-Cube-T9-64bit-octacore-A53-4G-beast

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I have mine for about a week now and all is working great..no screen issues at all and no inner film as some have reported and the screen just looks very clear and detailed..no graininess at all..i have not tried a sim card in it yet to try the phone part, but this is a real nice tablet and fast.

I have had mine for 2 week's now and it's been very good. Had a few dramas earlier with trying to upgrade firmware. The only real problem for me is the 5ghz WiFi band. It's really unreliable and keeps dropping out, the 2ghz band is reliable. Hopefully it's just software related and they fix it. Has anyone had the 4g signal working. I tried my mobile 4g sim and was only picking up 3g

Mine 5GHZ wifi is stable...
Maybe you should check your router?

Amazing Review
Thankyou for posting such an extensive review.. This seems to be a nice device to carry.. But I wonder about the explosion proof film. They could have done better I suppose.

[REVIEW] uleFone Be Touch: 5,5" IPS, 4G, 64bits octa-core CPU, 3GB RAM, fingerprint

[REVIEW] uleFone Be Touch: 5,5" IPS, 4G, 64bits octa-core CPU, 3GB RAM, fingerprint
uleFone is one of new Chinese brands making good things lately. And in the same way some players are doing, they also wanted to present something interesting before the summer period.
But they want to be like "the others", so they have come with an amazing smartphone which they have presented as their flagship device for the season: the uleFone Be Touch
Something very interesting, since this brand is very young. They’ve worked designing and making parts for other brands during years, but it wasn’t until 2014 they moved to manufacture their own smartphones.
When I opened the box my first though was about that size "It's huge!". But then, I started it and as Megan Trainor sings... "It's all about that bass"
Only that smartphone is not fat at all, it's very thin and light. It's even thinner than other thin devices like the Siswoo Cooper i7 I reviewed some weeks ago.
But let's go step by step.
Design and package
The box is quite standard, white, same shape that we can typically find for the iPhones or Samsung devices, for example. With a sticker showing some info and then most of the specifications on the bottom part.
Once opened, we can see the amazing Be Touch with its huge screen inside a soft bag and on the lower level, we have all the rest which is USB cable, charger (attention 1.5A! more than common units), headphones and quick start guide in English and other European languages... it's not something very necessary (we all know how to start the phone and take a picture) but it's really the first time I see it. And not one single item in Chinese. Sincerely that feels like more quality.
I live you that video with those impressions and something more:
Summarizing, on the front we have the 5,5" screen. On the top, frontal camera for selfies...with flash!!, light and proximity sensor. And on the bottom we have the navigation buttons: menu, back and home... which integrates a great surprise in form of fingerprint reader. Of all that I will talk more in detail.
On the left side we will find the lock/power and the volume buttons.
Going to the bottom side, just the micro and speaker (very iPhone-like). We have the holes for micro USB and jack exit on the top side, and nothing at all on the right side.
If we flip the phone, on the rear part we will see the main camera (using the Sony IMX214 4th gen sensor) with dual led flash and on the middle the uleFone logo.
All that within very tight dimensions of 158.1x77.4x8.6mm and another advantage is that it fits very well on the hand. It’s true that it’s big, but it doesn’t slip.
Hardware specifications
When you put the mark "flagship" over a product, you really want to mean that device is your top-range. Especially when you are a new player on the field and you want to set up what is your quality level and left aside your “Chinese stamp mark”. The Be Touch is much more than 64 bit octa-core processor and 3GB of RAM…So here it is what hides inside this thin beast.
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Model uleFone Be Touch
Color Metal Grey / Silk White
Dimensions 158.1 x 77.4 x 8.60
Weight 160g
Operating system Pre-install Android 5.0 Lollipop
Touch ID Front Fingerprint Scanner, Unlock in 0.1-0.5s
CPU 64Bit MTK MT6752 processor Octa core 1.7GHz CPU
GPU Mali T760 MP2/7000MHz GPU
RAM 3GB LPDDR3 RAM
ROM 16G
Battery 2550mAH
Charger Quick charger 1.5A ooutput
Display 5.5 inches, HD 1280*720pixels, IPS OGS (NEW 2.5D Arc screen) with Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3
Cameras 13MP 4th generation camera Sony IMX214 (main) and 5.0MP (OV5648) for the Front camera
Video 1080P, 2K, 4K
Network GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 (band5,band8,band3,band2) ; WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 (band5,band8,band2,band1) ; FDD-LTE: 800/1800/2100/2600(band20,band3,band1,band7)
SIM Dual sim dual standby, Micro SIM and Standard SIM
WiFi WiFi802.11 a/b/g/n/ac Support dual-band Wi-Fi(2.4GHz/5GHz)
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0
Positioning GPS, A-GPS, GLONASS, Digital Compass
Hall Effect Sensor, Gravity Sensor,
Ambient Light Sensor,
Touch Sensor, Digital Compass
Regarding the connectivity, needless to say it fully covers all our needs. The WiFi connects and transfers very fast, probably the improvements from Lollipop help, because I haven’t had any troubles of losing signal (as it happened with other devices). I have tried the BT with headphones (Digicare DO) and also with a BT keyboard, working both very well, quick pairing.
The SIM (standard and micro sizes) are located just next to the microSD slot, so sincerely a little bit hard to introduce the card, but once done, the networks are fast detected and connected, so I could use 3G/4G and also make calls very successfully. The voice is very clear and with enough volume.
Display
This is one of the most attracting points of this device. Its 5,5” IPS OGS screen with Corning Gorilla Glass of 3rd generation offers a resolution of 1280x720ppp. I can say that up to the date it’s the best display I’ve seen on a not first brand phone. The quality of the colors and the bright is amazing.
It comes with the dynamic control (adaptive brightness), so it automatically adapts to the lighting conditions to increase or reduce the bright level, making perfectly viewable even under sunshine.
Following the last trends, it also have the “Off-Screen Gesture” function, each time more common and sincerely very useful, since we can program several applications or functions to start without having to unlock the phone: camera, radio, calendar,.. any of the installed apps can be started by drawing a pattern on the locked screen.
Camera
We arrive to one of the most critical points of each review, since normally the manufacturers include camera sensors with a high number of megapixels but not offering the expected quality. uleFone advised they wanted to make the difference and present a great device, so they equipped the Be Touch with a main camera of 13Mpx with a Sony IMX214 4th generation sensor. Apparently this should be a warranty, but we’ve seen many other phones with good lenses giving poor results.
Fortunately this is not (so much) the case with the Be Touch. Until now this is the best (Chinese) one on the quality of pictures and videos. There is still the point to improve when there are poor light conditions. But I repeat the quality even though is much better than with other smartphones.
Here below some examples:
Another surprise comes with the front camera, the chosen sensor is OV5648 from Omni Vision, a high-performance, low-cost 5-megapixel CameraChip sensor for smartphones and tablets, which uses the latest 1.4-µm OmniBSI+ pixel architecture. But what surprised me was to find a led flash next to this camera. No questions about the selfies fever we’re immersed on, so the flash is doubtless a way to increase the quality of our portraits.
Regarding the videos, you can see this FullHD sample recorded outdoors, and even using zoom the quality is really good.
Software
This model comes directly with Android 5.0 Lollipop, so very good news since we have the almost last version of Android since the beginning, with all the improvements already mentioned on different articles like the better battery consumption, more secure environment since first boot, RAM management, WiFi connectivity issues solved, OK Google,…
By the other hand, need to say, that no Chinese stuff (apps) were installed on the phone, very clear Android [Símbolo] Only an icon called “ulefone” which brings us to the manufacturer website.
Another of the key points on the Be Touch is the fingerprint scanner, integrated on the “Home” button. It works really fast (some people say it’s even faster than the TouchID on the iPhone 6), and the way it register new fingers is different from other sensors where we had to slide our fingers. On this case we just have to put the desired finger repeatedly on the sensor until we have the full print marked on red on the screen. Meaning it has been fully recorded.
My suggestion is to place the finger on different positions, so it catches it from different angles and completes the task faster. We can register up to 5 fingers, which is a significant improvement against other devices allowing only 3 prints.
Due to the size of its screen and its powerful hardware, the Be Touch is perfect for entertainment. I installed Kodi (formerly known as XBMC), so I can play FullHD movies and TV shows directly from my NAS over the LAN, without any lags, smoothly and with very high quality of image and sound.
Normally I just try some games like Asphalt or Fifa (no need to say they go like lightning), however, bearing in mind the fingerprint sensor I decided to install my company’s software and use it as mobile office.
Yes, the BYOD is a real trend all around us I installed MaaS360, and configured mail, agenda and other tools. Once again it’s not only the speed of everything I try, jumping quickly from one task to another, but also the size of the screen makes this device very comfortable to read emails, see (and edit) Office documents, use CRM tools… really comfortable, especially when I compared to y iPhone 5’s tiny screen.
Autonomy
As stated above on the specifications table, the Be Touch is equipped with a removable battery of 2.550mAh, more than enough for a full day with average use: calls, wifi browsing, emails, whatsapp, pictures, social networking, Office documents editing… and all that thinking that the use of corporate tools and apps consume more battery.
Conclusions
A couple of months ago I saw the announcement of the Xiaomi MiNote and I really liked it. I though it was a real alternative to first brands smartphones with quality enough and a restrained price. I sincerely didn’t know so much about uleFone yet, and others brand had showed important improvements but still not at a comparable level to first brands.
I’m not meaning that the Be Touch has the same quality of the last Samsung Galaxy S6, but honestly it’s getting close. uleFone should still improve the management of taking pictures with dark conditions and polish some other minor details.
When I opened the box, I presumed that phone was very powerful but maybe too big for a daily use and still had to test the camera results, I take pictures every day. After using it, I can say that it’s a very comfortable device, not heavy at all (just 160gr) and since it’s very thin, it fits very well on the pocket.
I completely recommend it if you are looking for a new smartphone with a lot of possibilities and for a moderated price, around 205€ with Etotalk.com
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Just to complete the info from the review above, here some pictures putting the Be Touch (in black) together with an iPhone 6 (white)

Couple of questions.
1. How about the audio quality, through speaker, through headphone?
2. How much heat is generated by the phone when watching youtube or when playing games?
And Lastly, Can you upload some full size images? Thanks for a great review.:good:

Hi, answering your questions:
The sound is very good in both cases. For example, with the Elephone P3000S I clearly notice a lack of volume that I don't appreciate here, I mean watching movies, listening music,... more than enough. In addition the speaker is on the side, not in the bottom, so it always deliver at maximum
Regarding the temperature. After a couple of hours watching Gotham (I finished the 1st season recently hehe) chapters on the Be Touch, it was just a little hot, but for example the iPhone5 gets much much hotter when using 3G for long.
About the pictures... I have published the same review in here -> http://dabarsocialmarketing.blogspot.ie/2015/05/ulefone-be-touch-simply-amazing-with-64.html
I hope the pictures are bigger in size at least if you download them. I can tell you the quality is really good. Some friends viewed those pictures and asked me if they were the samples included on the phone or real pictures taken by me... that's why I take one of my dog (the same that appears on the video sample).
Until now it's from far, the best chinese phone I've used.
Cheers
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mdabar said:
Hi, answering your questions:
The sound is very good in both cases. For example, with the Elephone P3000S I clearly notice a lack of volume that I don't appreciate here, I mean watching movies, listening music,... more than enough. In addition the speaker is on the side, not in the bottom, so it always deliver at maximum
Regarding the temperature. After a couple of hours watching Gotham (I finished the 1st season recently hehe) chapters on the Be Touch, it was just a little hot, but for example the iPhone5 gets much much hotter when using 3G for long.
About the pictures... I have published the same review in here -> http://dabarsocialmarketing.blogspot.ie/2015/05/ulefone-be-touch-simply-amazing-with-64.html
I hope the pictures are bigger in size at least if you download them. I can tell you the quality is really good. Some friends viewed those pictures and asked me if they were the samples included on the phone or real pictures taken by me... that's why I take one of my dog (the same that appears on the video sample).
Until now it's from far, the best chinese phone I've used.
Cheers
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Thanks again. But I think those captured pictures are softer in the edges, sharper in the center. May be a software prob.

What is the data rate of video files? (In different resolutions)
My question is actually what kind of sd card to buy for that phone?
Doesn't it make sense to go for the expensive ones with higher speeds or 10mb/s is enough?

drkbg said:
What is the data rate of video files? (In different resolutions)
My question is actually what kind of sd card to buy for that phone?
Doesn't it make sense to go for the expensive ones with higher speeds or 10mb/s is enough?
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Hi, bearing in mind that it records video on FullHD, I wouldn't take a slow card. Personally I always take class 10 at least. If you can take a UHS class it will be better. Think that it's not only the video recording, at least I use to put a lot of stuff on the SD, so accessing apps, taking pictures, games, videos,... everything falls on the SD card, so the fastest the better.
For me, the class 10 is working well.
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Has anyone tried 128GB sdcard?

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Has anyone tried 128GB sdcard?
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Hahahaha I'd really like, but they are soooo expensive
Tell us if you have the chance!
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67EUR is not that much... ok compared to 23EUR for 64GB is a little bit more per GB but still this phone did cost me 180...

Hey dude. thanks for sharing that.

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Thanks again. But I think those captured pictures are softer in the edges, sharper in the center. May be a software prob.
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I've checked but don't have the impresion about soft edges... I have published on my spanish blog -> http://t.co/w9CK2Y2w6H
and there you can view full size
Think also that for example the flower picture was very focused very close, I wanted the rest appear unfocused (I don't know the correct term in english). Anyway I hope these full size pictures help I'll try to post some ones else
Cheers!

Will this phone work with USA 4G/LTE? Specifically AT&T? I've heard the wifi range on it is pretty poor, can you confirm that?

Does anyone knows how to root this device? I tried with iRoot but didn't work.

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Does anyone knows how to root this device? I tried with iRoot but didn't work.
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kingroot?
let us know, which rooting method worked

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kingroot?
let us know, which rooting method worked
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Yeah please, I was also thinking, although I have not yet investigated. :good:

hello I bought the phone and I'm very happy, but I read in the specifications that the phone can 'do video in 2K or 4K, you did it ???
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gagias said:
hello I bought the phone and I'm very happy, but I read in the specifications that the phone can 'do video in 2K or 4K, you did it ???
Sorry for may bad english
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4k will be supported after an ota update as far as I know

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Will this phone work with USA 4G/LTE? Specifically AT&T? I've heard the wifi range on it is pretty poor, can you confirm that?
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yes this phone works with AT&T but no LTE does not work. as far as the wireless connection, this is true, it's not as strong as a g3 or an S five or an iPhone 6 but it isn't horrible. the build quality is very nice. it's worth what they're asking for it.
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Yeah please, I was also thinking, although I have not yet investigated. :good:
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I have tried Kingroot , I root, and framaroot.
All were unsuccessful.

Also just read this phone will get 5.1 within the next 30 days.

Ultimate (Possible) Phone Specs: Share your thoughts!

CPU:
ARM 10nm FinFET LPP (2nd Gen) 64-bit processor
Frequency: 3Ghz, vast overclocking capabilities
Cores: Cortex-A75 Deca-core (only big cores)
Heat Output: Almost constant room temperature in every possible situation, except when enabling overclock mode
GPU:
World's first discrete mobile GPU: Nvidia M-Pascal GTX 1080M Ti GPU, equivalent to 50% of a full sized GTX 1080 Ti, overclockable
RAM:
Type: LPDDR4E
Size: 12GB
Speed: 4266MHz
Display:
Display Panel Technology: QD-AMOLED
Refresh Rate: 120Hz
Adaptive Refresh: Yes
ULMB: Enabled in Gaming Mode
Resolution: 5120×2160 5K WUHD/3840×2160 4K UHD/2880×2160 SHD
Aspect Ratio: 21:9/16:9/4:3
Brightness: 2000cd/m2
HDR-10 support: Yes
Dolby-Vision support: Yes
Hybrid Log-Gamma Support: Yes
Adobe RGB: 100%
DCI-P3: 99.98%
Rec 2020: 100%
Static Contrast Ratio: 5.000.000:1
Wide Color Gamut Display: Yes
Bit Depth: 10 Bit
Professionally Calibrated: Yes
Curved: Yes
Material: Sapphire (with flexible properties)
Bezels: Only top and bottom (for speakers)
Size: 5.7 inches
Response Time: 0.1ms
Pressure sensitive: Yes
Glasses-free 3D: Yes
Sound:
3.5mm Headphone Jack: Yes, with 6.35 mm to 3.5mm adapter included
Radio: Yes
Speakers:
Loud and powerful, crisp and clear hexa surround front-facing speakers
Frequency Range: 16Hz-22Khz
Dolby Atmos: Yes
DAC:
HI-FI Audiophile Quad DAC
Bit Range: 24 bit
Sampling Rate: 192kHz
Total Harmonic Distortion: >0.1%
Included Earphones:
Open-back, balanced, audiophile-grade in-ear headphones, with defined lows, mids and highs
Frequency Range: 15Hz-22Khz
Sound Isolating: Yes
Camera:
Sensor: (diagonal) 13.33mm (63.7mm², 12.288mm by 5.184mm) 3-Layer stacked CMOS image sensor with 1Gbit of stacked DRAM
Resolution: 24.8/18.6/13.9 megapixels (21:9 - 7680×3240; 16:9 - 5760×3240; 4:3 - 4320×3240)
Saves Images as: FLIF
Resolution/FPS (Video): 5120×[email protected], 3840×[email protected]/105fps, 3440×[email protected]/174fps, 2560×[email protected], 2560×[email protected], 1920×[email protected]/426fps, 1720×[email protected] 1280×[email protected], all in slow motion/real time options.
Flash: Quad QD-OLED flash (quad tone)
Pixel Size: 1.60µm
ISO Range: 1 - 25600
HDR-10 Support: Yes
Dolby Vision support: Yes
Hybrid Log-Gamma Support: Yes
Adobe RGB: 100%
DCI-P3: 99.98%
Rec 2020: 100%
Static Contrast Ratio: 5.000.000:1
Wide Color Gamut Support: Yes
Bit Depth: 12 Bit
Records loss-less files: Yes
Phase Detection Autofocus: Yes, dual pixel
Predictive Hybrid Autofocus: Yes
OIS: Yes
EIS: Yes
Laser Autofocus: Yes
Setup: Rotatable dual camera setup
All specifications above are valid for both cameras
Camera 1#:
Aperture: f/1.5
Camera 2#:
Aperture: f/2.5
Software:
Android Version: Stock Android O 8.0
Updates: All future updates guaranteed and immediate integration
Rootable: Yes
Unlockable Bootloader: Yes
Brick-and-bootloop-proof Technology: Included in Official Xposed Module
Vulkan API support : Yes
Google Drive Storage: 1TB of loss-less storage
Dolby Atmos: Yes
Storage:
Internal Storage: 32GB-256GB NVMe SSD
SD Card: Expandable SD Card slot up to 1TB + dual sim card slot
Cooling:
CPU, GPU and RAM are all liquid cooled, comes with a stylus that doubles as a liquid reservoir, tip detaches as female Nano-USB to male Thunderbolt 3 adapter
Battery:
Removable explosion-proof 6500Mah super-dense battery
Port: Thunderbolt 3 with Quick Charge 4+ equivalent
Sensors:
Semi-instantaneous fingerprint and iris scanner, accelerometer, gyroscope, infra-red, compass, proximity, barometer, thermometer, humidity sensor and heart rate monitor.
Networking:
WLAN: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/ad, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot
Celular Data Bands: All 3G, 3.5G, 4G and even 5G bands supported
Bluetooth: 5.0, A2DP, aptX, LE
GPS: A-GPS, GLONASS, BDS, GALILEO
NFC Support: Yes
Extra Features:
Modular:
- Antennae for increased digital TV, radio and cell data reception
- Keyboard Projector
- 5120×[email protected] laser projector
- QD-OLED 5000 lumens flashlight
- All components are replaceable/can be upgraded
- Ultra-Loud Hi-Fi Stereo Speakers extension
IP68 dust proof and water proof submerged in up to 50m for 24 hours
Official Protective Case, does not block module connections
Official Reinforced Flexible Sapphire Screen Protector
Price:
What it cost to make (including taxes) + margin of profit just enough to pay everyone who worked on it + margin of profit for industry growth. That's it. No exaggerated profits. After everyone's salaries are paid, the price drops.
Some explanations (part by part, in order):
CPU:
ARM's Cortex A75 cores are the most advanced (upcoming) mobile CPU cores, and some phones already feature deca-core setups.
FinFET LPP is Samsung's latest iteration of the 10nm manufacturing proccess, and supposedly brings about 10% increase in perfomance over the first generation.
I chose to only put big cores (A75) for maximum possible performance.
I decided to give the phone overclocking capabilities. No phone has that yet, but coming with an unlockable bootloader, a stock rootable android and a CPU that runs really cool, it would be a shame to not let fiddlers overclock this beast.
GPU:
With Nvidia making a laptop GPU as powerful as a desktop one (laptop GTX 10-series, plus it seems like a laptop GTX 1080 Ti is coming soon), I thought it wouldn't be much of a stretch to squeeze that into a phone, while shaving off 50% of the performance. Afterall, Nvidia seems to have taken interest in building processors for mobile, with the Nintendo Switch having one. And a discrete GPU in mobile sounds very nice, and it's overclockable too.
RAM:
LPDDR4E is the latest iteration of LPDDR4, and Samsung achieved 4266MHz with LPDDR4 already, and it's 12gb too (link).
Display:
Your first question might be why would put 3 different resolution with 3 different aspect ratios on the screen's spec sheet. Well, how absolutely amazing would taking advantage of OLED's flexible properties to make an expandable screen be? No more black bars on movies (most movies are recorded in ~21:9) + ultra-wide gaming, + still being able to switch to 16:9 for Youtube videos and TV series + watching old movies and TV series! No more black bars, EVER! Plus, retracting the screen will turn off a lot of pixels, so 4:3 mode can be used for extreme battery efficiency! The screen wouldn't be literally stretched all the times you clicked the dedicated button, instead it would de-roll a rolled up extra part of the screen hidden in the chassis, and push the bottom bezels apart to make room for the extra screen. So essentially, it takes advantage of OLED being rollable.
"SHD" stands for Small/Square-ish High Definition. Not the best name, but it was the best I could figure.
QD-OLED already is in research (sources here, here,here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here) plus recently Quantum Dot supplier Nanoco and OLED supplier Kyulux agreed to put their efforts on making QD-OLEDs a reality (link) (plus it's free of heavy metals and rare materials, too, so it's more nature friendly AND less expensive!).
2000cd/m² seems absurd at first, but it's actually what QD-LED TVs already reached.
There are already 4K phones (the Xperia Z5 Premium, for example), so I just stretched it to a 21:9 aspect ratio to make it 5K.
It's not using G-Sync, because the manufacturer would make a deal with Nvidia so that this GPU supports non-proprietary adaptive refresh. Apple's Ipad Pro has it (link)
21:9 phones are already in concept (links here and here)
120hz screens are in development too (link) (there's already a 120hz tablet: link)
The color spaces I made the screen reach are currently unheard of, but if you consider that QD-LEDs already reach over 90% of Rec 2020 (link), then 100% with QD-OLED doesn't seem too extreme.
The last time OLED's static contrast ratio was mentioned was at its beginning (1.000.000:1), and since dynamic contrast ratio isn't even a real thing, and all LG's being saying is that it's "infinite", I figured a 5 times increase in contrast wouldn't be too much, specially with HDR and how just from 2016 to 2017 LG's OLED's brightness increased by 25%.
In the production line, each individual display would undergo calibration with a spectrophotometer, in an automated process.
Why Sapphire instead of Gorilla Glass? Because Sapphire is naturally stronger than Glass, meaning even if Sapphire was undoubtedly weaker than Gorilla Glass 5, if Corning decided to make a "Gorilla Sapphire" (apply the same efforts to strengthen sapphire as they did to glass), then it would blow Gorilla Glass out of the water.
(most, if not all) OLEDs already have a 0.1ms response time.
Glasses-free 3D phones are already on the market (link).
All of this would be REALLY hard, but who know what they could do if they actually cared about us customers, instead of more profits.
Sound:
There was, already, a planned phone with quad speakers (link), although it was scrapped (the tablet version did come out, though). So I just made it even better with 6.
The LG G6 already has a quad DAC.
You might ask: why did I make the DAC only 24bit/192kHz, when there's phones with 32bit/384kHz DACs out there? Simple: It's a gimmick, it doesn't actually change sound, unless all your songs are 32bit/384kHz FLACs, which practically don't exist yet, and will probably take a few years until it becomes standard.
Camera:
All the crazy stuff about stacked DRAM, 960fps and etc. are numbers already achieved by the new Sony IMX400, their latest sensor.
Originally, the camera only recorded up to 5120×[email protected] and properly scale down from there, which was already a big stretch, but then the IMX400 came out, and recorded [email protected] This made things easier: that sensor could already do 5120×[email protected] if it scaled the res/fps properly, but it didn't, so the only difference between that one and my concept, is that my concept has more res options (including 21:9 ones and QHD), and scales properly (I did the maths myself. Some scalings make undesirable frame rates, so there's the option to just go with the closest multiple of 60 admitting one decimal off). As hard as pulling this camera off would be, I still think it's possible if they really worked hard on it and cared about us customers.
Also, all res/fps options are both in real time AND slow motion, so you could record blazingly smooth [email protected] videos, or super slow ones.
Also, I gave it all focus methods at the same time. kek.
Rotatable cameras already exist (link)
Software:
I thought it would be paradise if a phone already came with the option to be rooted, so there it is, although a form would have to be filled saying you agree to use it carefully just as you would in a desktop operating system.
The manufacturer would take the responsibility to bake every "extra feature" normally baked into a custom UI into an Xposed module, that includes the "gaming mode" business.
Also, the “brick-and-bootloop-proof technology” mumbo jumbo is just an algorithm that analyzes and stops any modification that will prevent the phone from booting/being usable, and if it somehow does, it recognizes the error and reverts to stock rooted image.
The manufacturer would promise to update all content immediately after an update arrives (for android and other software), and since it’s stock android it wouldn’t be that hard.
Storage:
NVMe mobile SSDs already exist in Iphones (link)
Cooling:
Also, there is already a liquid cooled laptop, so I stretched that concept too. There's also a liquid cooled phone, too, although very obscure (link) And having a stylus+liquid reservoir+USB type-c adapter combo just seemed so efficient and awesome to me. What would happen to the liquid when the stylus/reservoir is removed? It would work this way: removing the stylus requires pressing a button that would move the liquid to the empty space left by the stylus, whilst ejecting it. So the liquid would still be on the phone after you eject the stylus, now on the empty space where the stylus used to be.
Battery:
For such a powerful phone I gave it a 6500Mah battery (explosion-proof guaranteed because of Samsung screw ups, lol) (here's a phone with a 10900mAh battery. If that phone can have a 10900mAh battery, than surely they can fit a 6500mAh in this one).
Rest:
The extreme water proof limit was made up, expandability up to 1tb was made up, and 5G support was also made up. The particular modules were also made up.
I gave it loss-less capabilities in every aspect possible, but maybe it would be better to leave to such a skilled company the job to make a more efficient loss-less algorithm than FLIF, FLAC and loss-less video codecs.
The whole purpose of this phone is to be what the customer wants, not what the manufacturers and the CEOs want. It's not about profiting, it's about making the users happy, while making only the necessary amount of profits.
This was really crazy and goofy, but still, it was fun making this. Please share your thoughts: if you think it would be possible for now/near future, if not, then when do you think it would be possible, how much would it cost, how thick would it be, etc! Constructive criticism is welcome! Thanks for reading ;D

Interesting no replies ever. I'm not an inventor but it's fun to dream. I think you are on to something here. I'm going to submit pure conjecture right now. Here it is early 2022. About a year ago LG closed it's phone shop. It seemed like they announced they had a prototype of a rollable display and the next moment they announced they are done with the phone business. Now I'm not a conspiracy geek but that sounds like something shut them down as soon as they announced rolling display technology. What does anyone have to say?

Vivo X50 Pro+ User Review

After nearly one month of use, I decided to write an initial review of Vivo X50 Pro+. The main reason is that Vivo as a part of the Chinese BBK Electronic concern is the least known brand in the west, and I believe unjustifiably.
There are three brands under BBK - Vivo, Oppo, and OnePlus. While the first two were at the beginning success only in the Indian market, the last one is well known in the west too. In fact, it was intended for the west and OnePlus phones were known to bring the most bang for the buck except for the average camera (supposedly no more).
And even Oppo made a great breakthrough with the last models. Only Vivo is left behind.
So why buying a Vivo phone if you are not from the east? And why buying X50 Pro+ exactly?
There are many good reasons for this. Let’s look at them closely.
Design
Even I have to admit I’m anything but a fan of the curved screen (my dream phone design is the Nokia 9.3 concept (https://www.phonearena.com/news/nokia-9-3-pureview-5g-concept-renders_id124342) I accept the reality for the time being and I really hope that that madness evaporates quickly. The curved screen is unpractical (distortion and false touches around the corner) but at least I managed to improve the phone outfit by buying a nice case for a few euros. I bought a model with the glass back (glass back is the second design failure I’m fed up with it’s heavy and fragile). There is a really stunning X50 Pro+ model with faux camel leather but then, I’m not yet prepared to go naked, exposing the back of the phone and especially all precious cameras to all unpredictable harsh situations. Hence I bought a really nice case instead of having an exceptional designed phone.
Display
OK, the part of the phone design is a display. X50 Pro+ comes with a nice E3 AMOLED panel with DCI-P3 color gamut, supporting 120Hz high refresh rate and 240Hz touch sampling rate, and has a peak brightness of 1300nit It also supports HDR10+. The E3 means that the display adds 8% to energy efficiency and has reduced blue glare. Otherwise, it has vivid full colors and sharp picture, which is well seen even under the direct sun. It has a small unnoticeable hole for the front camera, adjustable refresh rate, automatic brightness control, night mode, and three adjustable manifestations: home screen, lock screen and always-on display. What I miss is a chance to put your email on the lock screen, you know, it might be helpful if you lose the phone.
Camera
It is a while when the Vivo camera has been the last time evaluated on DXO. And I’m yet to try the camera in all its functionality. But I’ve already had a chance to compare the shootings with the Huawei P40 Pro and I have to say that I’m impressed. The main sensor among the four is the GN1 camera of Samsung, which supports Dual PD and Tetracell technology, which has 50 million pixels, a single pixel of 1.2μm. The output is 12.5 million pixels, and the single-pixel is 2.4μm, which increases the light sensitivity by four times. ISOCELL GN1 has Samsung’s pixel isolation technology ISOCELL Plus, which uses a physical barrier to isolate the pixels so that more light is collected by the microlens and then absorbed by the pixel’s photodiode.*The result is higher color fidelity and higher sensitivity, bringing natural tones and shadows to high-resolution photography. There is a 13 megapixel portrait camera, which has an f/2.4 aperture, a focal length of 50mm, and a double zoom. The 8 megapixel sensor offers 5x optical and 60x digital zoom. Panoramic pictures, on the other hand, can be taken with the 8-megapixel wide-angle lens.*On the front side, there is a 32 megapixel front camera, which offers an f/2.4 aperture.
Battery
I must admit, I’m immodest as far as the battery is concerned. I came from the Huawei Mate 20X side, I had a 5mAh battery, I’m not a gamer, rather a surfing addict. But surprisingly I noticed that Vivo manages consumption rather well without compromising performance. I manage through a long day easily, usually, I have enough power for two consecutive days.
Hardware
As you might know, X50 Pro+ uses to date the last SoC of Qualcomm, the SM8250 Snapdragon 865 (7 nm+). My phone comes with the 256GB ROM 12GB RAM UFS 3.1. It is fast, reliable, and smooth. The 4G antennas cover all common world bands (exceptions are band 20 of EU and more exotic US bands - like TM 66, 71, V 13, 46, 48, 66 and ATT 14,29,30,66). It is understandable, the phone is meant for Asian markets. And it supports both SA/NSA 5G frequencies 1, 3, 41, 77, 78, 79. That means that it had to cover the most common 5G specter in EU (where it exist) and one 5G band from Sprint (41) for TM in the USA.
Otherwise, the X50 Pro+ has both VoLTE and WoWiFi enabled and it must support Netflix too (I don’t use it). The nice move from Vivo is Wifi 2.4 and 5 aggregation and smooth switching from wifi to mobile when needed.
Software and customization
As expected X50 Pro+ comes with a lot of Chinese applications hardly usable anywhere else. Most of them could be removed from settings, others are removable (and retrievable) with adb shell pm uninstall --user 0.
After thoroughly removing unwanted apps there are negligible Chinese traces remain. One is, for example, when you get deeper into the weather app, you eventually come to the pure Chinese site. Otherwise, the weather is from the Accuweather and very reliable.
The launcher is not bad even if it is not as polished as Huawei’s. It supports gestures, themes, and customization. For more customization, you have to get a theme editor, which functionality is more limited than Huawei’s one. You can replace the stock launcher with the custom one. I didn’t decide to replace it yet, it has some useful feathers. I want to mention that I prefer stock Calendar, Clock, Weather, Albums over the Google ones. And the overall design is nice, I just wanted material icons, which I prefer smaller though. You have a native voice recorder with the phone and really nice messages application, which I haven’t replaced with Google’s even than the last now got RCS in my country. Not to mention very useful note applications with text, voice, picture options, and even OCR which works surprisingly well with foreign languages.
So why switch from Huawei to Vivo?
I admired Mate 20x in the time of acquisition but after two years I started to believe in the combination of a smaller lighter phone together with a tablet when needed. But that is not the main reason. As we all know Huawei lost GMS support. I guess I could live without the majority of Google applications. But I strongly consider the phone as a tool which should be sufficient to replace payment instruments, cards, tickets, personal documents, and keys. In my opinion, this is the second most important role of phones besides getting information.
And all this is now jeopardized if you possess a Huawei phone. Vivo is a completely different story. The company is not in dispute with the US administration and the X50 Pro+ is completely capable to serve the purpose. Despite poor and misleading knowledge of a vendor I bought it from it has full GMS support and it matches CTS profile completely. Google Assistant works flawlessly as well as Google pay.

Thanks for the great review!
Can you post some low light photos in full resolution?

So it passed SafetyNet test?

Are you able to get volte when making calls and does tap to pay work for google pay?

maxant69 said:
So it passed SafetyNet test?
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Yes, totally.

Princevelyn said:
Are you able to get volte when making calls and does tap to pay work for google pay?
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Google pay works in stores without any problem.
Regarding VoLTE and VoWiFi I couldn't test it before because my operator doesn't support it. It says next year every year for about 5 years.
I borrowed a sim and try it but I couldn't enable either of them. I need more time to find out why.

From which store did you buy it?

dazed1 said:
Thanks for the great review!
Can you post some low light photos in full resolution?
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So far I like Vivo X50 Pro+ camera but I haven't had much opportunity to test it in all possible circumstances yet. But I did a short comparison between photos taken with the Vivo and those taken with the flagship Huawei P40 Pro. Compared photos are attached, I tried to evaluate them. I'm not a professional photographer but some differences are obvious even for an amateur. But, please, make your own opinion about the results and I'll be glad if someone more skilled than me participates with his (hers) own comment about the results.
So these are my observations:
HV1 - standard cameras were used, Vivo expresses better dynamic range;
HV2 - standard cameras, better Vivo's dynamic range, but a thin cloud covered the sun during the second shot;
HV3 - thin fog in the valley - zoomed pictures, Huawei's camera has a larger zoom;
HV4 - wide shots - pretty equal results;
HV5 - standard cameras - equal results;
HV6 - Wide cameras - equal results;
HV7 - 5X zoom on both cameras - Huawei expresses better dynamic range;
HV8 - close pictures - more vivid colors from Huawei;
HV9 - standard cameras - better dynamic range from Vivo;
HV10 - wide cameras - better dynamic range from Vivo;
HV11 - zoom on both cameras - better dynamic range and sharpness from Vivo;
HV12 - normal shot in almost total darkness - brilliant exposure and sharpness from Huawei;
HV13 - night shot in almost total darkness - brilliant exposure and sharpness from Huawei;
HV14 - normal shot in almost total darkness - brilliant exposure and sharpness from Huawei;
HV15 - night shot in almost total darkness - brilliant exposure and sharpness from Huawei;
HV16- close objects in darkness - brilliant exposure and sharpness from Huawei;
HV18 - semidarkness with the normal shot - brighter but less sharp and with distorted colors picture from Huawei;
HV20 - semidarkness with the night shot - brighter but less sharp, less dynamic range and with distorted colors picture from Huawei;
I must add an explanation:
All pictures are taken on the point and shoot principle. I reckon that I could take a better full dark picture with X50 Pro+ if I would have really tried to keep my hands still that critical seconds when the picture has been developed. Another remark: X50 Pro+'s camera is really fast and that counts a lot, sometimes almost all. This Samsung's GN1 is a brilliant feature, it never made me wait to shoot under the daylight, as Huawei did. Just pointing and shooting, that's it. Maybe occasional lag and consequential shaking make Huawei daylight pictures what they are.
All four X50 pro+'s cameras were done their job taking into account that no phone camera right now is able to compete with Huawei's Leica and AIS configuration in a totally dark environment. I'm truly impressed.
Due to the limitation of the forum, I split pictures into 3 zips and will be posted separately.

The second packet is following.

piskr said:
The second packet is following.
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And the third one..:laugh:

Thanks so much brother!

maxant69 said:
From which store did you buy it?
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It's Trading Shenzhen ( https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/vivo-x50-pro-x50-pro-x50). Although it is from Hongkong It has a few EU offices, gives warranty (it works, I tried it for Xiaomi tablet), and delivers at least to EU duties free (global shipping) in about 3 weeks.

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Thanks so much brother!
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No worries. Should you have any questions just ask.

Princevelyn said:
Are you able to get volte when making calls and does tap to pay work for google pay?
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That issue with VoLTE and VOWiFi - I'm still none the wiser so far...
Maybe someone with more experience could help. All indicators show that it works but actually, it doesn't.
Look at the attached pictures. I used 2 sims, one was mine and it doesn't support either VoLTE or VOWiFi, and the other is my wife's which supports both and has both activated (works with her phone).
And now take a look at settings. With my sim, both VoLTE and VOWiFi settings are missing (case it doesn't support any of them), and with other are shown and activated. The same it is apparent from Secret Phone Settings app.
But the fact is that in both cases when calling, radio falls back from LTE to 3g. Really weird.
I'll try to search Weibo, that's the only possible remaining source of advice that I could remember...

piskr said:
That issue with VoLTE and VOWiFi - I'm still none the wiser so far...
Maybe someone with more experience could help. All indicators show that it works but actually, it doesn't.
Look at the attached pictures. I used 2 sims, one was mine and it doesn't support either VoLTE or VOWiFi, and the other is my wife's which supports both and has both activated (works with her phone).
And now take a look at settings. With my sim, both VoLTE and VOWiFi settings are missing (case it doesn't support any of them), and with other are shown and activated. The same it is apparent from Secret Phone Settings app.
But the fact is that in both cases when calling, radio falls back from LTE to 3g. Really weird.
I'll try to search Weibo, that's the only possible remaining source of advice that I could remember...
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Yeah that is the problem I am having with my vivo nex 3 and there is no support for volte, when I contacted vivo customer service they said that the Chinese rom version was not able to have volte enabled and that is only supported cdma carriers with volte. Thanks for the in-depth look though !!!

I new it! One of the very best phone cameras on the market right now: https://www.dxomark.com/vivo-x50-pro-plus-camera-review-aiming-for-the-top/

Finally we get much anticipated and more thorough review:
https://www.gsmarena.com/vivo_x50_pro_plus-review-2170p3.php
I have a few remarks though:
Importing X50 Pro+ is not such hassle;
Audio from mono speaker may not be superior (for mono not bad either) but dedicated hifi chip makes miracle and dominates both via wired and Bluetooth earpieces - in my opinion that's far more important;
Funtouch is far better, customizable and closer to stock than miui - miui on my tablet was so buggy that I was just lucky enough to have a chance to root it and totally replace the system with lineage;
Not to mention Oppo regarding camera, performance and customization - it's significantly behind X50 pro+;
And Xiaomi Ultra camera is not such surplus - check Dxomark analysis;
Huawei is another story but it is right now hit hard with lack of mobile services.

It works on TMobile 5g network in usa?

Yes, it works. Yesterday I had opportunity to test 5G on band 41 and it worked. T-Mobile uses this band aquared from Sprint.

How is battery life? How many hours screen on time?

General Technical data about the P7 Pro - Overview

This thread will serve as a comprehensive overview about the technical data of the P7 Pro. I will take the data from sifting through various tech sites and will update this post if there are changes. Google only offers a fraction of these info, hence the need for a proper chart.
SpecificationsPixel 7 ProBuild
100% recycled aluminum frame
IP68 dust/water resitant (1.5m for 30 mins)
Corning Gorilla Glass Victus (front, back)
Nano-SIM and eSIM
Dimensions &
Weight
162.9 x 76.6 x 8.9mm
212g
Display
6.7-inch, 110.6cm² QHD+ LTPO pOLED (~88.7% screen-to-body ratio)
1440 x 3120 pixels, 19.5:9 ratio (~ 512 ppi density)
120Hz refresh rate
Always-on display
Variable refresh rate support (10-120Hz)
1000 nits (HBM), 1500 nits (peak)
HDR10+
ModemSamsung Exynos Modem 5300g (unannounced, confirmed through data mining and from a Google Rep Tier 2 today, special revision G confirmed by user in a store with a p7 pro unit)SoC
Google Tensor G2
2x ARM Cortex-X1 @2.85Ghz
2x ARM Cortex-A78 @2.35GHz
4x ARM Cortex-A55 @1.8GHz
ARM Mali G710 MP07 GPU
Next-gen Google custom TPU
RAM & Storage
12GB LPDDR5 RAM Micron
128/256GB/512GB UFS 3.1 storage
- 128 GB part number: HN8T05DEHKX073 (SK Hynix), SR 2050 MB/s, SW 1300MB/s, 3D NAND TLC
- 256 GB part number: THGJFGT1E45BAIP (Kioxia), SR 2100-2300 MB/s, SW 1.700 MB/s, 3D NAND TLC
- 512 GB part number: Unknown as of yet
Battery & Charging
5,000mAh battery
Wired fast charging (up to 50% in about 30 minutes with Google’s 30W USB-C brick, max sustained charge speed will be 23w)
Fast wireless charging support (Qi-certified)
Up to 72 hours of battery life with Extreme Battery Saver
Security
In-display fingerprint scanner (new hardware version as per the teardown leaked on 07/10/22, potentially better than P6/p6a)
Face Unlock (Class 1 Biometric, only for unlocking the phone, not usable for in-app biometrics or purchases)
Titan M2 chip
Rear Camera(s)
Primary: Samsung Isocell GN1 50 MP f/1.9, 25mm (wide), 1/1.31", 1.2µm, multi-directional PDAF, Laser AF, OIS
Ultra-wide: Sony IMX381 (unconfirmed as of yet) 12MP f/2.2, 1/2.9", 1.25µm, 125.8-degree FoV, autofocus, macro
Telephoto: Samsung Isocell GM5 (unconfirmed) 48MP f/3.5, multi-directional phase-detection autofocus, FHD 120fps (technical, not sure if Google unlocked this), 120mm (telephoto), 1/2.55", 0.7µm, 5x optical zoom, Super Res Zoom up to 30x, OIS
LDAF
Video:
4K 60FPS video capture support on all cameras
[email protected]/60/120/240fps
gyro-EIS
OIS
10-bit HDR video capture support
Front Camera(s)
10.8MP f/2.2, 21mm (ultrawide), 1/3.1", 1.22µm
Larger sensor for better night-time photos
4K60p recording (technical, maybe Google will only unlock 4k30)
Port(s)USB Type-C 3.2 Gen 2, 10Gbps
no 3.5mm jackAudioStereo SpeakersConnectivity
5G (mmWave support on select models)
4G LTE
Bluetooth 5.2, A2DP, LE, aptX HD
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/6e, tri-band, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot
NFC
GPS dual-band A-GPS, GLONASS, GALILEO, QZSS, BDS
Software
Android 13
3 years of OS updates
Minimum 5 years of security updates
Other Features
Google One VPN (no Google One sub needed)
Software features:
Photo Unblur
Faster Night Sight
Real Tone improvements
Cinematic Blur
Audio message transcription
Clear calling
Speech enhancement (background noise from people you call will be reduced, from their end)
Cough and snore detection

So in display fingerprint for in app authentication... Ugh that sucks

rester555 said:
So in display fingerprint for in app authentication... Ugh that sucks
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This whole community feedback on Faceunlock sparks a curious eyebrow raising.
When the P4 XL came out, there were thousands of people that screamed for a Fingerprint unlock. They didn't like Faceunlock. They felt Soli was pure gimmick. They didn't like the P4 XL. When the P5 came out, those voices rose again, calling out the P4 XL for having "mega bezels and ****ty biometrics".
Back when I used my P4 XL, I loved faceunlock, except for two facts
a) Faceunlock was horrible to use when I had to wear masks in shops or other public places, due to Covic restrictions in 2020/2021 - any time I wanted to pay via phone or look something up, I had to write down my pin, which is a horrible security risk when you are surrounded by other people.
b) most apps did not support Faceunlock biometrics at all, even 1 1/2 years after launch, only a handful of apps supported the new biometric API. Meaning, for example, whenever I wanted to open my banking app, I had to write down all the details by hand. That was terrible. And since it was the fault of the developers, and Google didn't force them to comply, there were little ways as a user to mitigate that problem.
Those voices soon died out, however. The ones that "upgraded" from a P4 XL noticed a) the p5 was a downgrade in specs and b) Faceunlock offers a good amount of practicality, IF done right. Now, the P4 XL with Soli was near perfect: You only had to get close with your hand to your phone, it detected you and when you picked it up, the unlock was instant. Friends of mine with IPhones saw that and were stunned and marveled about it ("you don't have to swipe to unlock your phone? You just have to pick it up, and it's fully automatic? Woa, that's cool, my IPhone can't do that. It's annoying to always swipe to unlock, even after faceunlock").
I loved the experience of Soli powered Faceunlock. Soli was not a gimmick, Soli was the final piece in the puzzle that made Faceunlock a seamless experience. The hand waving thing was a gimmick, yes, but not the detection to unlock.
Now, in the recent year, I've read hundreds, if not thousands of people over at Reddit, on Twitter or here at XDA, wishing for faceunlock. Something that (back in the day) barely managed to create a sort of positive feedback.
People tend to take something for granted, until it is taken away.
And instead of a decent faceunlock, we now - sadly, because of the overwhelmingly bad feedback of the Community about faceunlock - have a weak, 2D version that will only be used for simple phone unlocking.
Google should have gone the Apple route, made a notch and then refined upon it, PLUS adding the FP scanner.
Well, let's see what the future holds.

Morgrain said:
This whole community feedback on Faceunlock thing is interesting.
Back when I used my P4 XL, I loved faceunlock, except for two facts
a) Faceunlock was horrible to use when I had to wear masks in shops or other public places, due to Covic restrictions in 2020/2021
b) most apps did not support Faceunlock biometrics at all, even 1 1/2 years after launch, only a handful of apps supported the new biometric API. Meaning, for example, whenever I wanted to open my banking app, I had to write down all the details by hand. That was terrible. And since it was the fault of the developers, and Google didn't force them to comply, there were little ways as a user to mitigate that problem.
Back when the P4 XL came out, there were thousands of people that screamed for a Fingerprint unlock. They didn't like Faceunlock. They felt Soli was pure gimmick. They didn't like the P4 XL. When the P5 came out, those voices rose again, calling out the P4 XL for having "mega bezels and ****ty biometrics".
Those voices soon died out, however. The ones that "upgraded" from a P4 XL noticed a) the p5 was a downgrade in specs and b) Faceunlock offers a good amount of practicality, IF done right. Now, the P4 XL with Soli was near perfect: You only had to get close with your hand to your phone, it detected you and when you picked it up, the unlock was instand. I loved it. Soli was not a gimmick, Soli was the final piece in the puzzle that made Faceunlock a seamless experience. The hand waving thing was a gimmick, yes, but not the detection to unlock.
Now, in the recent year, I've read hundreds, if not thousands of people over at Reddit, on Twitter or here at XDA, wishing for faceunlock. Something that (back in the day) barely managed to create a sort of positive feedback.
People tend to take something for granted, until it is taken away.
And instead of a decent faceunlock, we now - sadly - get a weak, 2D version that will only be used for simple phone unlocking.
Google should have gone the Apple route, made a notch and then refined upon it, PLUS adding the FP scanner.
Well, let's see what the future holds.
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Absolutely agreed. I remember all the articles that said it was a gimmick. I agree that the hand gestures were a joke.
Saying that, I loved my Pixel 4 XL with the soli sensor. I was able to use the face unlock through a module on magisk with all apps that used the fingerprint sensor. So I had the best of both worlds.
I too remember when COVID made it difficult, but think the face unlock was still amazing. I second putting a pill back on the front display with the soli sensor to get a proper face unlock.
Currently on the pixel 6 pro, I am using the face unlock module from Moto baked in. It doesn't allow for you to use the face unlock on in-app though. That sucks. Here's to hoping you can use that API through some form of magisj module on all apps including unlocking the screen.

On second thought, the Pixel 4 XL, IMHO, was the best pixel to me from a utility stand point.

According to someone that checked a display model the modem is the 5300g. This contrasts to the leaks from Android Police that it would be the 5300b or from Twitter that it would be the 5300f.
I'm trying to find out what process node the G2 is on but I can't find any solid information. There are no references anywhere and I've seen guesses with 5LPE, 5LPP, 4LPX, 4LPE, 4LPP which hasn't even entered volume yet, and shout out again to Android Police with the non-existent "4PLP" which they've misconstrued from the process of fan-out panel level packaging.
It's probably going to be on 4LPE, my bigger question is whether the modem is going to internal this time. They cut back on the size of the GPU, so they might have enough space to make the modem internal now. If they don't then it's probably another year of bad efficiency. Will have to wait for TechInsights to do a teardown.

Also the telephoto sensor should be the GM5 as it has 0.7 micrometer pixels, while the GM1 is 0.8 micrometer.

Yes, here's to hoping the modem is internal.

Namelesswonder said:
According to someone that checked a display model the modem is the 5300g. This contrasts to the leaks from Android Police that it would be the 5300b or from Twitter that it would be the 5300f.
I'm trying to find out what process node the G2 is on but I can't find any solid information. There are no references anywhere and I've seen guesses with 5LPE, 5LPP, 4LPX, 4LPE, 4LPP which hasn't even entered volume yet, and shout out again to Android Police with the non-existent "4PLP" which they've misconstrued from the process of fan-out panel level packaging.
It's probably going to be on 4LPE, my bigger question is whether the modem is going to internal this time. They cut back on the size of the GPU, so they might have enough space to make the modem internal now. If they don't then it's probably another year of bad efficiency. Will have to wait for TechInsights to do a teardown.
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Also the telephoto sensor should be the GM5 as it has 0.7 micrometer pixels, while the GM1 is 0.8 micrometer.
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Changed those values. Thanks for the infos!

Morgrain said:
This thread will serve as a comprehensive overview about the technical data of the P7 Pro. I will take the data from sifting through various tech sites and will update this post if there are changes. Google only offers a fraction of these info, hence the need for a proper chart.
SpecificationsPixel 7 ProBuild
100% recycled aluminum frame
IP68 dust/water resitant (1.5m for 30 mins)
Corning Gorilla Glass Victus (front, back)
Nano-SIM and eSIM
Dimensions &
Weight
162.9 x 76.6 x 8.9mm
212g
Display
6.7-inch, 110.6cm² QHD+ LTPO pOLED (~88.7% screen-to-body ratio)
1440 x 3120 pixels, 19.5:9 ratio (~ 512 ppi density)
120Hz refresh rate
Always-on display
Variable refresh rate support (10-120Hz)
1000 nits (HBM), 1500 nits (peak)
HDR10+
ModemSamsung Exynos Modem 5300g (unannounced, confirmed through data mining and from a Google Rep Tier 2 today, special revision G confirmed by user in a store with a p7 pro unit)SoC
Google Tensor G2
2x ARM Cortex-X1 @2.85Ghz
2x ARM Cortex-A78 @2.35GHz
4x ARM Cortex-A55 @1.8GHz
ARM Mali G710 MP07 GPU
Next-gen Google custom TPU
RAM & Storage
12GB LPDDR5 RAM
128/256GB/512GB UFS 3.1 storage
Battery & Charging
5,000mAh battery
Wired fast charging (up to 50% in about 30 minutes with Google’s 30W USB-C brick, max sustained charge speed will be 23w)
Fast wireless charging support (Qi-certified)
Up to 72 hours of battery life with Extreme Battery Saver
Security
In-display fingerprint scanner (new hardware version as per the teardown leaked on 07/10/22, potentially better than P6/p6a)
Face Unlock (Class 1 Biometric, only for unlocking the phone, not usable for in-app biometrics or purchases)
Titan M2 chip
Rear Camera(s)
Primary: Samsung Isocell GN1 50 MP f/1.9, 25mm (wide), 1/1.31", 1.2µm, multi-directional PDAF, Laser AF, OIS
Ultra-wide: Sony IMX381 (unconfirmed as of yet) 12MP f/2.2, 1/2.9", 1.25µm, 125.8-degree FoV, autofocus, macro
Telephoto: Samsung Isocell GM5 (unconfirmed) 48MP f/3.5, multi-directional phase-detection autofocus, FHD 120fps (technical, not sure if Google unlocked this), 120mm (telephoto), 1/2.55", 0.7µm, 5x optical zoom, Super Res Zoom up to 30x, OIS
LDAF
Video:
4K 60FPS video capture support on all cameras
[email protected]/60/120/240fps
gyro-EIS
OIS
10-bit HDR video capture support
Front Camera(s)
10.8MP f/2.2, 21mm (ultrawide), 1/3.1", 1.22µm
Larger sensor for better night-time photos
4K60p recording (technical, maybe Google will only unlock 4k30)
Port(s)USB Type-C 3.2 Gen 2
no 3.5mm jackAudioStereo SpeakersConnectivity
5G (mmWave support on select models)
4G LTE
Bluetooth 5.2, A2DP, LE, aptX HD
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/6e, tri-band, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot
NFC
GPS dual-band A-GPS, GLONASS, GALILEO, QZSS, BDS
Software
Android 13
3 years of OS updates
Minimum 5 years of security updates
Other Features
Google One VPN (no Google One sub needed)
Software features:
Photo Unblur
Faster Night Sight
Real Tone improvements
Cinematic Blur
Audio message transcription
Clear calling
Speech enhancement (background noise from people you call will be reduced, from their end)
Cough and snore detection
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"This thread will serve as a comprehensive overview about the technical data of the P7 Pro"
I'm game lets put together the info we all wish we had and do it right! hehehe
& the model numbers for replacement parts are what?
LOL Someone has completed a teardown but didn't list out all the "replacement parts list & locations guide" so users could repair what gets broken easily.....
Google should make this avalible...
wait we don't live in a world where this : https://www.onearmy.earth//project/phonebloks is reality manfest.

Morgrain said:
Telephoto: Samsung Isocell GM5 (unconfirmed) 48MP f/3.5, multi-directional phase-detection autofocus, FHD 120fps (technical, not sure if Google unlocked this), 120mm (telephoto), 1/2.55", 0.7µm, 5x optical zoom, Super Res Zoom up to 30x, OIS
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Do you have a source for the 120mm claim on the telephoto?
Thanks in advance!!!!

benleonheart said:
Do you have a source for the 120mm claim on the telephoto?
Thanks in advance!!!!
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Sure
Google Pixel 7 Pro - Full phone specifications
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Can anyone confirm what the DAC will be capable of? likely to manage lossless or will i need to go for an external DAC?

wilbur-force said:
Can anyone confirm what the DAC will be capable of? likely to manage lossless or will i need to go for an external DAC?
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You're going to have to get an external DAC because the only thing connected to the internal DAC are the speakers, there's no other way to get an analog audio signal out of the phone.

Why three years only update os

m3ath said:
Why three years only update os
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Not sure why, but should be more!

galaxys said:
Not sure why, but should be more!
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yes but Google has not yet announced that it will be 3 years, this number is not a source

m3ath said:
yes but Google has not yet announced that it will be 3 years, this number is not a source
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Yep, their support page which lists how long guaranteed Android version updates will be for doesn't list the Pixel 7 series yet. Haven't seen an official word elsewhere, but might have missed it.
The fine print in the Google Store say:
"Pixel security updates for at least 5 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the US. Updates may also include feature drops and other software updates. See g.co/pixel/updates for more information."
Having said that, I'm guessing it will still be 3 years of OS updates. If it were more I think they would have announced it during the Event to entice more people to buy it.

Namelesswonder said:
You're going to have to get an external DAC because the only thing connected to the internal DAC are the speakers, there's no other way to get an analog audio signal out of the phone.
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I thought most android phones had internal DACs for USB audio but that they normally didn't push high quality?

Namelesswonder said:
According to someone that checked a display model the modem is the 5300g. This contrasts to the leaks from Android Police that it would be the 5300b or from Twitter that it would be the 5300f.
I'm trying to find out what process node the G2 is on but I can't find any solid information. There are no references anywhere and I've seen guesses with 5LPE, 5LPP, 4LPX, 4LPE, 4LPP which hasn't even entered volume yet, and shout out again to Android Police with the non-existent "4PLP" which they've misconstrued from the process of fan-out panel level packaging.
It's probably going to be on 4LPE, my bigger question is whether the modem is going to internal this time. They cut back on the size of the GPU, so they might have enough space to make the modem internal now. If they don't then it's probably another year of bad efficiency. Will have to wait for TechInsights to do a teardown.
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For what it's worth, appears to be 4LPE as you surmised, that is if SamMobile is not a close sibling of Android Police
Google’s Tensor G2 chipset uses Samsung’s 4nm process, Exynos 5300 5G modem
The Pixel 7 and the Pixel 7 Pro, which were launched last week, use Samsung Foundry's 4nm fabrication process and ...
www.sammobile.com
EDIT: Of course, Android Authority says 5nm, quoting a Google spokesperson...
Google Tensor G2 is a 5nm chip, despite what the internet might say
Google has confirmed that the Tensor G2 processor powering the Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro is built on a 5-nanometer manufacturing process.
www.androidauthority.com