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[Q] Apps Restarting

I recently upgraded my ATT Captivate to 2.2. I now have a problem with apps starting up on there own even though I've going into apps management and have killed them. I even have app killer and its not automatically killing the apps. These aren't the att apps, these are apps that I've installed.
How can I prevent apps from starting back up. Its killing my battery life.
Thanks

dirk1965 said:
I recently upgraded my ATT Captivate to 2.2. I now have a problem with apps starting up on there own even though I've going into apps management and have killed them. I even have app killer and its not automatically killing the apps. These aren't the att apps, these are apps that I've installed.
How can I prevent apps from starting back up. Its killing my battery life.
Thanks
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Get os monitor and check how much mem they use. If u see one that is always over 20%, uninstall it.
Also u can stop ur running services.
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What BW said. Don't worry about them in there unless you find one using up too much battery/resources. They won't drain your battery unless it's a bad app.

BWolf56 said:
Get os monitor abd check how much mem they use. If u see one that is always over 20%, uninstall it.
Also u can stop ur running services.
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I have also stopped the services for the apps that are restarting, and they keep coming back like bad mexican food.

dirk1965 said:
I have also stopped the services for the apps that are restarting, and they keep coming back like bad mexican food.
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You could try unistalling your task killer and getting Advanced Task Killer (it's the one I personnaly use). Now killing a app won't stop it from restarting, you usually fix that in your running services. Also make sure that these apps arent widgets - in that case they will always restart

BWolf56 said:
You could try unistalling your task killer and getting Advanced Task Killer (it's the one I personnaly use). Now killing a app won't stop it from restarting, you usually fix that in your running services. Also make sure that these apps arent widgets - in that case they will always restart
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Actually, its Advanced Task Killer that I have installed. Yes, I totally understand apps vs. services. I'm stopping the services for the apps that have restarted, yet they continue to restart after the service has been killed. These apps are definitely not widgets.

dirk1965 said:
Actually, its Advanced Task Killer that I have installed. Yes, I totally understand apps vs. services. I'm stopping the services for the apps that have restarted, yet they continue to restart after the service has been killed. These apps are definitely not widgets.
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Umm, may I ask what are these apps?
The only app that takes couple tries for me to stop if the facebook one. Also, some app are made to constinusly refresh and get info from the internet. If that's the case with your apps, block their internet connection or change their settings to have it refresh manually.
Also, you can tell some apps not to start on boot up - that might temporaly fix your problem.

BWolf56 said:
Umm, may I ask what are these apps?
The only app that takes couple tries for me to stop if the facebook one. Also, some app are made to constinusly refresh and get info from the internet. If that's the case with your apps, block their internet connection or change their settings to have it refresh manually.
Also, you can tell some apps not to start on boot up - that might temporaly fix your problem.
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Apps like Google Maps, ColorNote, Daily Briefing and others. Its very random what apps decide to start.

dirk1965 said:
Apps like Google Maps, ColorNote, Daily Briefing and others. Its very random what apps decide to start.
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I duno about colornote but as for the others, they automaticly refresh using the internet and so like I said in my other post, you have to set it so the either can't access the internet (might as well unistall them in that case) or set their refresh to manual so it only refreshes when you "tap" on them.
Google maps refreshes for your location. That one will be a pain especially if you have the gps on.
If you get over a day of battery life with moderate usage and that you like these app, then I'd say to just live with it. If it's not the case, I suggest getting rid of them but if OS Monitor doesn't show them using your mem/battery, then they don't actually do/change much.

BWolf56 said:
I duno about colornote but as for the others, they automaticly refresh using the internet and so like I said in my other post, you have to set it so the either can't access the internet (might as well unistall them in that case) or set their refresh to manual so it only refreshes when you "tap" on them.
Google maps refreshes for your location. That one will be a pain especially if you have the gps on.
If you get over a day of battery life with moderate usage and that you like these app, then I'd say to just live with it. If it's not the case, I suggest getting rid of them but if OS Monitor doesn't show them using your mem/battery, then they don't actually do/change much.
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Okay, I'm with you. So where exactly do you set apps to refresh manually?

dirk1965 said:
Okay, I'm with you. So where exactly do you set apps to refresh manually?
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once on the app, hit your menu button (bottom left one ) and you should have a setting option - each app will be different but it mostly comes to the same thing. Also if you don't have any menu option, there should be a (i) kind of image/icon somewhere in the main app page but these are rare. Most app will have their setting menu.

Thanks. I'll try it and see what happens.

nice conversation, very informative. thanks guys
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lyrad12 said:
nice conversation, very informative. thanks guys
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Glad I could help

[All roms][Sharing] Huge battery saver!

Google think that almost every device running android, is their device. Therefore they implemented a service within Google Play Services that will connect your device often to the Google and it will drain more battery then needed.
NOTE:
I tried a method that was shown on i think this forum or another one. I can't remember which one it was, and i cant find the thread either.
So before i am going to start this, i wanna thank the guy from the original thread for this, even if i dont know where i can find you. I am only sharing this so i take NO CREDITS.
I repeat, i am ONLY sharing this.
+ Works with:
- AOSP roms
- TW roms
- Well, basicly all android running devices :fingers-crossed:
To start with:
- Turn of location settings
- Go to settings, accounts and go to your google account.
+ go to advertisements and untick the toggle that says that Google takes care of your advertisements.
Most important:
- Download Adaway (latest) from HERE.
Thank you @mrRobinson for this awesome app!
- Open adAway and provide Adaway root access.
- Press the menu button and go to your own custom list.
- Now add a line by pressing the + button in the upper right of the screen.
- Add the following line < mtalk.google.com >
- Make sure the the checkmark is ON with the "mtalk.google.com" line.
- Now go back to the homescreen of adAway, apply the patch.
Note: According to the maker of the original thread, this seems to be the server that your device is always trying to communicate with. So by blacklisting this URL, there is no connection anymore.
Note 2: Cyanogenmod (and maybe other AOSP or GE users) are experiencing that the Blue highlighted WI-FI icon and the blue highlighted antenna icon are now GREY after applying this.
This is because you are not connected anymore to the google servers.
Note 3: Keep in mind that you can still manual synchronise your calander, contacts, Gmail, and other Google account related.

ramon.nmgn said:
Note 3: Keep in mind that you can still synchronise your calander, contacts, Gmail, and other Google account related.
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This (syncing) only applies for manual updates. Leaving the entry in Adaway will disable auto-updates. Not a viable option for me, am not going to manually refresh Google apps...

Pfeffernuss said:
This (syncing) only applies for manual updates. Leaving the entry in Adaway will disable auto-updates. Not a viable option for me, am not going to manually refresh Google apps...
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Thanks for the heads up.

Thanks for this.
I don't think Ad away works as it should though.
It says its syncing and merging with my current hosts file but after doing that my hosts file goes from 1.4mb to 700kb. So all its doing is deleting stuff. Weird
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Obagleyfreer said:
Thanks for this.
I don't think Ad away works as it should though.
It says its syncing and merging with my current hosts file but after doing that my hosts file goes from 1.4mb to 700kb. So all its doing is deleting stuff. Weird
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Ah i did not checked my host file if became smaller. But adAway definitely works for me as it completely rebuilds the host file.
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how about deleting google play services if dont need automatic syncing?

Pfeffernuss said:
This (syncing) only applies for manual updates. Leaving the entry in Adaway will disable auto-updates. Not a viable option for me, am not going to manually refresh Google apps...
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I believe this is not a viable option for many users for the same reason ...but still for some may be useful

Vihru said:
how about deleting google play services if dont need automatic syncing?
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I think if you do that, you are not even able to Sync and update your apps at al.
I am just sharing this, i am using it myself and im pretty satisfied.

ramon.nmgn said:
I think if you do that, you are not even able to Sync and update your apps at al.
I am just sharing this, i am using it myself and im pretty satisfied.
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I always delete GooglePlayServices and never have any problems with apps updating.
I still get notifications in my status bar telling me when there is an app update available in the Play Store and also still get my Gmail notifications in my status bar.
Syncing works perfectly and so does Maps, Google Search, YouTube etc.
I actually can't see ANY reason to have GooglePlayServices installed.
All my Google apps still function perfectly without it.
And I no longer have RAM wasted and battery used up by this annoying app!!
My advice to everyone, delete it, it's not needed at all.

Obagleyfreer said:
I actually can't see ANY reason to have GooglePlayServices installed.
All my Google apps still function perfectly without it.
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Was pretty euphoric when I read this so immediately disabled Play Services and rebooted like a happy little kid :laugh:
That level of joy didn't last long:
Maps, Calendar, Keep, Youtube, these all need G.P.S. to function properly. Maybe even more apps but this is where I stopped.
Needless to say turned it back on again. This, as well, is not a viable option for me

Pfeffernuss said:
Was pretty euphoric when I read this so immediately disabled Play Services and rebooted like a happy little kid :laugh:
That level of joy didn't last long:
Maps, Calendar, Keep, Youtube, these all need G.P.S. to function properly. Maybe even more apps but this is where I stopped.
Needless to say turned it back on again. This, as well, is not a viable option for me
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Did you tried the method i mentioned? :happy:
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Pfeffernuss said:
Was pretty euphoric when I read this so immediately disabled Play Services and rebooted like a happy little kid :laugh:
That level of joy didn't last long:
Maps, Calendar, Keep, Youtube, these all need G.P.S. to function properly. Maybe even more apps but this is where I stopped.
Needless to say turned it back on again. This, as well, is not a viable option for me
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That's odd, I don't get Google Maps requesting Play services on my device.
I do get one of those notifications after wiping cache and dalvik cache though, I just swipe it away and carry on as normal.
After you swiped them away can you still use the apps requesting it?
For example when I first boot up YouTube after wiping cache it says it needs PlayServices to run but I just ignore and cancel it.
I have never lost any YouTube functionality at all.

ramon.nmgn said:
Did you tried the method i mentioned? :happy:
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What method? Entering the mtalk line?
Obagleyfreer said:
After you swiped them away can you still use the apps requesting it?
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Some yes, some no. Keep refused to work. Anyway, can easily make it through the end of the day anyway and will always charge at night so no biggie but all small bits can help of course. This fix is a bit too coarse, for me that is of course

Package Disabler Pro and the newest Google Play Services

So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.

are you root?
reset your phone and do it again, I dont have a problem with it. I'm on 8.1.14

johnomaz said:
So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
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Zero problems here.
beep

johnomaz said:
So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
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You disabled something that is deep in the system. Since ur testing u have to try 1 at a time over a few hours to see what is up.
I.D.F.W.Y.

Chord_Hugo87 said:
are you root?
No, I'm not rooted. Everything was going smooth until I got the new update to Google Play Services. I found that if you turned off the location services for your phone it would clear up but that only lasted maybe an hour before stuff started up again.
reset your phone and do it again, I dont have a problem with it. I'm on 8.1.14
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BACARDILIMON said:
You disabled something that is deep in the system. Since ur testing u have to try 1 at a time over a few hours to see what is up.
I.D.F.W.Y.
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I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.

johnomaz said:
I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
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i think if u go in with root exploer if u was rooted u find facebook in 2-3 spots. whatsapp gave me issues. i gave up on debloating. i have seen a few debloated roms that the dev went in and manually removed and made things work. freeze apps is no longer as simple as it once was .

I'm using " Disable Application " from the play store... I'm rooted, and it works great. I prefer PDP, but it doesn't work on my rooted rom.

johnomaz said:
I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
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hmmm weird...I have no problem with it.

If you're rooted, just use titanium backup.
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rlsroufe said:
If you're rooted, just use titanium backup.
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If I root, its when its been confirmed that Samsung Pay will work with one of those new root cloaking apps (one is an xposed module) works for it. If it does, I'll be back on root in no time.
My issue may be my phone. I couldn't get it to respond for anything, error messages that wouldn't go away long enough to type a letter. I factory reset and the error codes kept coming. Its going to be replaced.

dandroid7 said:
I'm using " Disable Application " from the play store... I'm rooted, and it works great. I prefer PDP, but it doesn't work on my rooted rom.
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It always fail when i try to delete stuff why ?

There is other way,
Try to use this app "App Package Disabler (Samsung)" - NO NEED ROOT
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kunkunsoft.packagedisabler
Simple and easy to use

SuperFreezZ

SuperFreezZ
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Disclaimer: SuperFreezZ is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
GNU General Public License for more details.
SuperFreezZ is an Android app that makes it possible to entirely freeze all background activities of an app.
Any contributions are welcome.
SuperFreezZ is not yet another task manager promising to delete 10GB of data per month or making your device 2x as fast. This is impossible. You should freeze only
apps that you do not trust (and do not want to run in background) and
apps that you use very few.
If you freeze apps that you use daily, the battery of your device will drain faster and these apps will take longer to load. You should take the name seriously: SuperFreezZ will super freeze your apps, and it is not that easy to defrost them.
Download
Features:
Optionally works without accessibility service as this slows down the device
Contributing to SuperFreezZ
If you have a problem or a question or an idea or whatever, just open an issue on GitLab!
If you would like to help, have a look at the issues or think about what could be improved and open an issue for it. Please tell me what you are going to do to avoid that I also implement the same thing at the same time
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Developing SuperFreezZ is and was a lot of effort, which I did in my free time. Please donate to show me your support and to boost development.
Also, I will upload it to the Play Store when I earned €25 through donations (because uploading to the Play Store costs that much)
Q/A:
Q: But the correct spelling would be "SuperFreeze"!
A: I know.
Q: Do you have any intentions to sell freezers?
A: No.
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SuperFreezZ, App for all devices (see above for details)
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I built and installed the app on my phone, but I couldn't get it to work. Can you please let me know how does it work? After some guiding pages, it reaches to a page with yes and no question. after selecting each of them, it shows a circle progress above the page and does nothing.
I liked the idea about the app so I'm very excited to get it to work
Thanks

Sorry, I didn't see your post, I thought that I'd get a notification when someone posts something here...
Anyway,
artosian said:
it shows a circle progress above the page and does nothing.
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Doesn't it say "ALL APPS" anywhere? Quite strange...
What Android version are you using?
Can you send me a log excerpt (
Code:
adb logcat
) or even traces of the running stacks?
What happens when you wait 2 minutes?

The app should run in the background and automaticly freeze pre-selected apps just like Greenify does, overwise it's not much useful to me.

Been using this app for a week and like it alot. Especially as it seems to be one of the few open source options.
Only thing I miss in this is the ability to freeze system processes or the bloatware apps coming with the phone. Many of them are possible to freeze manually, but unfortunately they dont show up in SuperFreezZ.
Then there is the problem with restarting apps. As dimqua mentioned there is a need for autofreeze.

Module6 said:
Only thing I miss in this is the ability to freeze system processes or the bloatware apps coming with the phone. Many of them are possible to freeze manually, but unfortunately they dont show up in SuperFreezZ.
Then there is the problem with restarting apps. As dimqua mentioned there is a need for autofreeze.
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Good point, I will add it when I implement settings: https://gitlab.com/SuperFreezZ/SuperFreezZ/issues/8
And see https://gitlab.com/SuperFreezZ/SuperFreezZ/issues/15.

Hello,
I am really interested in switching from Greenify to SuperFreezZ, but am not entirely clear as to what the differences between the 2 apps are (if any).
What difference is there between freezing an app and hibernating it (which is what Greenify does, right?)? Why would it be a problem to unfreeze an app once it has been frozen, and does this process differ from what Greenify does with apps that have been hibernated?

evaz88x said:
Hello,
I am really interested in switching from Greenify to SuperFreezZ, but am not entirely clear as to what the differences between the 2 apps are (if any).
What difference is there between freezing an app and hibernating it (which is what Greenify does, right?)? Why would it be a problem to unfreeze an app once it has been frozen, and does this process differ from what Greenify does with apps that have been hibernated?
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There is no difference between freezing and hibernating.
And neither SF (SuperFreezZ) nor Greenify have anything to do with unfreezing/de-hibernating, the Android system does this from itself when you start a frozen/hibernated app. It is a problem because you will have to wait some more seconds until the app is loaded and the process also consumes some energy. And it does not differ from using Greenify at all, except for the fact that the developer of Greenify doesn't warn you.
So - actually you will see what the main differences between Greenify and SF are when using them. There are almost no "hidden" differences.

Module6 said:
Been using this app for a week and like it alot. Especially as it seems to be one of the few open source options.
Only thing I miss in this is the ability to freeze system processes or the bloatware apps coming with the phone. Many of them are possible to freeze manually, but unfortunately they dont show up in SuperFreezZ.
Then there is the problem with restarting apps. As dimqua mentioned there is a need for autofreeze.
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dimqua said:
The app should run in the background and automaticly freeze pre-selected apps just like Greenify does, overwise it's not much useful to me.
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I implemented both of these features, you will have to look for them in the settings though. This is because they are rather for advanced users (that is, those who have a look at the settings).

I can now receive monetary donations: https://liberapay.com/Hocuri/! If you like the app, please consider donating something.

Please, add a root option to hibernate apps without accessibility service.

APK plox?
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Can you explain if it is useful on android pie or just redondant?

kryzeK said:
Please, add a root option to hibernate apps without accessibility service.
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Have you seen Drowser https://f-droid.org/de/packages/com.jarsilio.android.drowser/? It is also FOSS.
skiely666 said:
APK plox?
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I did not understand this, what do you mean?

EMJI79 said:
Can you explain if it is useful on android pie or just redondant?
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It depends. SF can completely prevent apps from running in the background.
Newer Android versions (like, Pie) let the apps run in the background fewer and fewer when they are not used, to save battery. SF can make SURE that apps do not run in the background at all. From https://gitlab.com/SuperFreezZ/SuperFreezZ:
Get back control over what runs on your phone (this did not change)
Enhance battery life and reduce mobile data usage by freezing rarely used apps (hint: the system will also let them run in the background only a little, even without SF).
Especially useful while you are on a tour, where you need only some apps but a long battery life
If you want to be really sure, you will have to test whether using SF saves battery yourself on your particular phone with your kind of using it.
Update: Apart, apps cannot use the camera or get your current location or use the device sensors while they are frozen.
Update 2: Also see https://www.xda-developers.com/superfreezz-freeze-background-apps/

hcur said:
Have you seen Drowser https://f-droid.org/de/packages/com.jarsilio.android.drowser/? It is also FOSS.
I did not understand this, what do you mean?
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It's ok I got it ?
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hcur said:
Have you seen Drowser https://f-droid.org/de/packages/com.jarsilio.android.drowser/? It is also FOSS.
Don't you intend to add this function?
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Gilfreitas said:
hcur said:
Have you seen Drowser https://f-droid.org/de/packages/com.jarsilio.android.drowser/? It is also FOSS.
Don't you intend to add this function?
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It depends. It seems not to make sense to just duplicate this functionality on the first sight, but: Is there any reason why you would prefer SF over Drowser?
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hcur said:
Gilfreitas said:
It depends. It seems not to make sense to just duplicate this functionality on the first sight, but: Is there any reason why you would prefer SF over Drowser?
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First of all, thank you for this cool foss greenify alternative.
I don't think you should worry much about copying that since "am force-stop" is first result when searching "kill android app command" and the accessability thing seems like a more complicated hacky workarround. Having this as an option for rooted devices would be helpful, especially for killing apps while locking the screen as I could not get that feature to work reliably so Im left with freeze shortcut. I like this freezZer more because I find default delayed freezing the most convenient way to save some wattbytes having way more installed apps than I'd like to admit. (Seriously, why would someone need to have an app that calculates dew point? No idea but it prooved itself that one time and it's only 127kB!)
Intelligent feature could maybe be improved by logging usage and delaying freezZing more (in defined bounds) the more frequently given app is used, but this may be a hustle to implement.
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I think I'll just install a custom ROM

Voiding the warranty will not be a pleasant thing to do, but I'm annoyed as hell by some of the things that are happening in ZenUI:
- Disabling Google apps i.e. chrome, duo, YouTube is futile since the apps turn back on again.
- Since chrome can't be permanently disabled I can't click on links in apps such as Sync for Reddit without chrome opening automatically asking me to use Chrome.
- Some accessibility settings that were turned on randomly turn themselves off after a reboot. In my case it happened to a password manager that was suddenly no longer able to auto fill fields in my browser.
- I can't seem to switch songs with my volume control . Simply a feature I really miss.
I'll give them one update to see if either of the above improves. If not I'll install a custom ROM.

Avalon said:
- Disabling Google apps i.e. chrome, duo, YouTube is futile since the apps turn back on again.
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This was happening with me, after the 3rd or 4th time of disabling Duo and Chrome haven't turned back on, for what it's worth. Keep trying.
Avalon said:
- Some accessibility settings that were turned on randomly turn themselves off after a reboot. In my case it happened to a password manager that was suddenly no longer able to auto fill fields in my browser.
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Is it LastPass? It doesn't actually disable able accessibility settings, just keeps asking for it for some reason.
LastPass is honestly quite trash.

Supra | MD said:
This was happening with me, after the 3rd or 4th time of disabling Duo and Chrome haven't turned back on, for what it's worth. Keep trying.
Is it LastPass? It doesn't actually disable able accessibility settings, just keeps asking for it for some reason.
LastPass is honestly quite trash.
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I'll keep trying, thanks. As for lastpass, yeah, it's not great. Bitwarden has been great for me for the last 2 years.
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I was also having a fit trying to disable Chrome, Duo, Photos and Youtube - they were all just being enabled again, rather quickly.
It seemed to happen once via Playstore downloading languages for something, could never catch exactly what triggered this.
Anyway, after several reboots and redisabling, it hasn't happened for two days now.
Don't miss disabling the 3 Facebook system apps.
They at least have remained disabled.

cobben said:
I was also having a fit trying to disable Chrome, Duo, Photos and Youtube - they were all just being enabled again, rather quickly.
It seemed to happen once via Playstore downloading languages for something, could never catch exactly what triggered this.
Anyway, after several reboots and redisabling, it hasn't happened for two days now.
Don't miss disabling the 3 Facebook system apps.
They at least have remained disabled.
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You had 3 Facebook system apps on your device? I had the normal Facebook app which I was able to fully delete.
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Avalon said:
You had 3 Facebook system apps on your device? I had the normal Facebook app which I was able to fully delete.
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You have them too.
Look in Settings/apps/, choose "all apps', then in 3 dots at upper right choose "show system".
Then scroll down to "face".
I found them via the firewall app Netguard, recommended.

cobben said:
You have them too.
Look in Settings/apps/, choose "all apps', then in 3 dots st upper right choose "show system".
Then scroll down to "face".
I found them via the firewall app Netguard, recommended.
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Lookie here.... Thanks. This prompts me even more to install a custom ROM.
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Avalon said:
Lookie here.... Thanks. This prompts me even more to install a custom ROM.
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I don't agree.
I think Asus has done a very good job with this one.
All the custom roms seem to have all sorts of various problems.
The 4 Google apps Asus had to preinstall to keep on the right side of Google.
As long as they finally stay disabled, I'm ok with that.
The Fakebook stuff is more serious, IMHO they made a bad judgement call installing the Fakebook stuff.
(Maybe they get paid for doing that?)
But the apps don't seem to do anything while disabled, I have Netguard monitoring them.
And I haven't found anything else problematic at all yet.
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Advice from some 5-7 year old threads just came in:
Disabling the app "Google Partner Setup" will stop the automatic re-enabling of other apps.
I have not tried this, yet anyway.

cobben said:
Advice from some 5-7 year old threads just came in:
Disabling the app "Google Partner Setup" will stop the automatic re-enabling of other apps.
I have not tried this, yet anyway.
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Thanks for this. I didn't stumble upon such a thread when I was searching for a solution. Let's see how it goes.
As for ZenUI, it's definitely not the worst and I like how little bloatware is included. Perhaps I'm a bit quick with my judgement and I'll wait for a next update.
The fact that apps that require accessibility settings cease to function after a reboot until I simply open that app is a huge pain in the ass tho. Examples include: bitwarden and swiftly switch (pro). Hope this gets fixed. I was wrong in saying that the accessibility toggle automatically turns off. I assumed that because said apps don't function as intended after a reboot.
As for custom ROMs I'll definitely wait. I went through the threads and there seem to be quite a couple of issues that need to be ironed out first. Flashing a ROM now might open new doors to other problems that are bigger than the ones I'm facing right now.
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As for custom ROMs I'll definitely wait. I went through the threads and there seem to be quite a couple of issues that need to be ironed out first. Flashing a ROM now might open new doors to other problems that are bigger than the ones I'm facing right now.
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As someone who just spent a week trying to get LOS installed and is going back to stock, I can testify that custom ROMs are not ready yet. All of the necessary elements (recovery, ROM, gapps, etc.) have multiple showstopper issues. Add on to that the confusion caused by A/B partitions. I've never kept a phone stock before, but I'm flashing stock and will check back in 6 months to see if custom ROMs are stable by then.

Avalon said:
The fact that apps that require accessibility settings cease to function after a reboot until I simply open that app is a huge pain in the ass tho. Examples include: bitwarden and swiftly switch (pro). Hope this gets fixed. I was wrong in saying that the accessibility toggle automatically turns off. I assumed that because said apps don't function as intended after a reboot.
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I don't use those apps, but have you set them to autostart and to "no battery optimization"?

trachyte said:
As someone who just spent a week trying to get LOS installed and is going back to stock, I can testify that custom ROMs are not ready yet. All of the necessary elements (recovery, ROM, gapps, etc.) have multiple showstopper issues. Add on to that the confusion caused by A/B partitions. I've never kept a phone stock before, but I'm flashing stock and will check back in 6 months to see if custom ROMs are stable by then.
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Yep, exactly my thoughts.
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Agree with disabling of accessibility features.
I use FliudNG for gestures (highly recommended especially for 6z) and I have to disable and re-enable it's accessibility, then re-enable the app again after a reboot.

loneagl said:
Agree with disabling of accessibility features.
I use FliudNG for gestures (highly recommended especially for 6z) and I have to disable and re-enable it's accessibility, then re-enable the app again after a reboot.
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So strange. In my case the only thing I NEED to do for those apps to work is simply open the app and close it again. I haven't tried FluidNG yet but I expect the same results.
Edit: tried it. Same results indeed.
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cobben said:
You have them too.
Look in Settings/apps/, choose "all apps', then in 3 dots at upper right choose "show system".
Then scroll down to "face".
I found them via the firewall app Netguard, recommended.
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FWIW I have three facebook apps listed (after uninstalling the main app) - "Facebook App Installer", "Facebook App Manager" and "Facebook Services". Don't know what these do, so I just disabled them. They're disabled now so I'm hoping they can't get their podgy fingers involved in anything?

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FWIW I have three facebook apps listed (after uninstalling the main app) - "Facebook App Installer", "Facebook App Manager" and "Facebook Services". Don't know what these do, so I just disabled them. They're disabled now so I'm hoping they can't get their podgy fingers involved in anything?
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Yep, blocking them was recommended by someone already earlier in this thread. Good find either way.
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Yep, blocking them was recommended by someone already earlier in this thread. Good find either way.
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I have been tracking their potential attempts at internet access via Netguard, and there is none.
So they do seem to stay comfortably disabled.
The other preloaded apps that I repeatedly had to disable have also remained disabled for a week now, so that problem seems to have gone away.
(Or are they just waiting for a wakeup signal from the mothership? )

Have someone tried disabling apps using Island or similar Android-for-work software? It says that it can work without root by setting the software as a device owner using adb... Because with every possible app disabled (GP, FB, etc) their folders on Internal Storage still recreated after removal.