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Truecaller debuts AI-powered Assistant in the U.S. to help users easily filter scam calls
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I read about Truecaller releasing a new AI powered assistant that works quite similarly to the Call Screening feature in Google Pixel devices, except that it is available for all Android and iOS smartphones.
Anyone try out the feature yet? If you did, how useful was it?

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Phone Call Recorder

I need to record phone calls. My boss screams at me like a demon monster, and I'd like to preserve this fresh Hell for posterity... maybe make it my ringtone. (Yes, I have a right to in my state, as I am a party to the call)
Searching on AppBrain for 'phone call recorder' gives 13,997 results.
Ideally I'd like it to automatically start when I get a call from a certain number, and otherwise have a push-button start/stop while calls are in progress, and any other time.
Can anyone advise?
Quantumstate said:
I need to record phone calls. My boss screams at me like a demon monster, and I'd like to preserve this fresh Hell for posterity... maybe make it my ringtone. (Yes, I have a right to in my state, as I am a party to the call)
Searching on AppBrain for 'phone call recorder' gives 13,997 results.
Ideally I'd like it to automatically start when I get a call from a certain number, and otherwise have a push-button start/stop while calls are in progress, and any other time.
Can anyone advise?
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I think Google Voice has this feature, but it lets the other party know via an in-call announcement.
esone1ll said:
I think Google Voice has this feature, but it lets the other party know via an in-call announcement.
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Thanks, but no Google apps please. Don't trust them. Open-source is best.
Quantumstate said:
Thanks, but no Google apps please. Don't trust them. Open-source is best.
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Interesting choice of phone platforms given that you don't trust Google.
By the way, much of Google's software is open source with that source code freely available, including Android.
Though I've only looked for this in Nexus One forums, it seems that no one can figure out how to get an application (at least not involving GV) to capture audio on both sides of the conversation, unless it's on speaker or maybe a headset. Might vary by device though if it's a hardware thing.
d0ugie said:
Interesting choice of phone platforms given that you don't trust Google.
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Long story. Sure you want to know?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730544
Yes N1 is the phone of concern. Odd that it's difficult to capture both sides. Shouldn't be difficult to emulate GV by looking at the source.
I was going to suggest Google Voice also. When you hit the number 2 or 4 (can't remember which), it will notify you and the other caller that the session is being recorded (which might shut your boss up for good!). You can even download the conversation into an mp3 format. It records both sides of the conversation, not just yours or his.
Now, why would Google give a crap what your boss is yelling about? My point exactly ... this isn't Big Brother ... yet.
Read that other thread to find out, if you're actually curious.
I notice that comments in many of the call recording apps say 'doesn't work', with one phone or another, usually newer phones. And I am gathering that G**gle Voice is closed-source, as are apparently many of their other apps, so reading source for tips on how to get both sides is not an option.
I wouldn't use G**gle apps in any case, but to notify my boss I am recording would probably get me fired today. I'm just wanting to collect his fiery, abusive calls just in case...
Apparently most apps are unable to record the other party's side of the conversation.
Does anyone know why this would be? What would it take to record both sides. I'm sure there are hooks in Android to get this.
All right, after considerable research it seems I am the best-informed around here.
It is now clear that there is no way a third-party app can record the orther end of the conversation, except in speakerphone mode. (MIC ONLY). Only Google Voice can do this, and it insists on using 'The Cloud' so they have control over all your conversations.
There is confusion over whether this is an API problem, or a driver problem, but if it's a driver problem both HTC and Motorola suffer from it.
So, this is a deal-breaker. No Android phone for me. I'm lucky I'm not already stuck with one.
Winduhs Mobile phones can record with third-party apps, as can the Symbian-based Nokia N8 when it comes out next month. So that's where I'm going.
Good bye Android
Hate to tell you this but you are butting you head up against a long time limitation of the "Smartphone" platform. It isn't limited to Android devices either. WinMo has the same limitations and it has to do with the OS not having access to the incoming audio stream.
Not true. Google Voice can do it, built-in, but I'm not sending all recordings to them, no sir.
This proves that the mechanisms are in place but that either the API is rigged, the drivers are, or documentation is lying. Everything records as documented in the emulated SDK, but not on the phone itself.
Phones that actually can record both sides are Nokia S60 & Maemo phones, including N900 & N8 (Recaller, Voxtrack Personal- beepless), Rseven on Symbian & WM, Mvoice & CallRec on Palm, Vito-Audionotes on HTC TouchPro2, Sony Ericsson c905 has the record option.
Right now I'm looking for a Linux port to any of the newer smartphones, as Linux can record and has nav apps, my two vital functions.
Quantumstate said:
Not true. Google Voice can do it, built-in, but I'm not sending all recordings to them, no sir.
This proves that the mechanisms are in place but that either the API is rigged, the drivers are, or documentation is lying. Everything records as documented in the emulated SDK, but not on the phone itself.
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That doesn't prove anything. Google Voice calls go through their servers. I can record calls between two landlines, if the call is made through GVoice. Does this mean that my 1970s-era, rotary-dial phone has the SDK to record calls?
It proves that I can't use Android.
I am not going to bicker with you.
This thread is comedy gold. There are several reasons why access the audio stream is restricted. Phones from many platforms cannot record both sides of the conversation, and I am surprised to hear that 3rd party apps can do this on WinMo. I would hazzard a guess that this requires more than just a regular run of the mill type install.
You seem to hate Android, and Google in particular. I have read your posts. I thank you for your lack of contribution to the forum. A good chuckle doesn't really count.
Your fear mongering and paranoia regarding big business and biased news is typical of someone living behind a computer for 52 years. Oh yes, that's you too. If you wish to spread your opinion, I would suggest you start a blog, rather than fill a forum with posts like these.
Take care.
Voice recorder app on win mobile
Until about 10 days ago when I bought my first android phone, a samsung vibrant which i am loving it, I was a windows mobile user for many years and it's true that there is an free app called PMrecoder, that records phone conversation (both sides) and saves it in a folder on the SD card. I still have the app on my Tmobile wing. This app works great and records all coversations automatically. I wish there was an app like that for android also. I am sure someone will come up with a similar app for android soon.
You have nothing but insults "SpeeDemon". {snicker}
Means nothing.
But thanks mayart, for another app that works.
total recall (paid app, about 10 dollards) tryes to do the job.
I've buy it, but...nobody never calls me.
Seriously: i come from an excellent nokia E65. It knew how to record some in's and out's very efficiently.
Doesn't work on Nexus One...
You should send a mail to the developers (company).
I think they want now to be efficient on Android phones, as they are for ages
on symbian (Nokia) ones.
Ah, never mind, I've found an app that does it.
However because of the abuse I was given in this thread I am not sharing it with this forum.
Have a nice day.

Google Voice update for iOS now with VOIP calling..

I just stumbled across this article and I'm in complete shock that iOS is getting the long awaited VOIP feature in Google Voice before the whole Android community. From a marketing perspective, it makes sense, given that Apple is probably paying a "pretty penny" to Google for its support for iOS devices(iPhones and iPads), but from a logic perspective, it doesn't make a lot of sense at all because one would think that Google's very own mobile platform would receive any improvements and updates before iOS. In my opinion. there are a couple of schools of thought here with this move..
1.) Marketing - iOS is paying good money to Google, therefore Google works hard to keep iOS at a level playing field with Android, even at the expense of iOS receiving certain software updates before Android.
2.) "We can use iOS as a 'testing ground' for new software and updates to current Google applications."
3.) Android 4.0 KitKat will be released soon and this feature will be included in a Google Voice roll-out to KitKat-powered Android devices.
Anyway... check out the article ----> "Free VOIP Calls Now Available On The iOS Version Of Google Voice, Android Update Is Up In The Air"

Gear S3 and Google assistant

I am a staunch user of Google and Samsung products. With the S3 running Tizen it seems as if I have lost the Google/Samsung marriage I have grown to love. In particular, I am very disappointed that I cannot choose Google assistant over S voice. S Voice seems 3 to 5 years behind Google assistant.
Is it likely that someone will connect Google assistant and the Gear S3?
I suspect it's very unlikely. Google assistant/OK Google is android wear's big selling point. I'm the same as you, I miss proper Google integration with voice and Gmail etc, but I find the gear s3 and the samsung ui to be much better. I'd love OK Google, Google maps and Gmail on the s3 but it won't happen.
@photojonny FYI "OK Google" is the only thing that is _actually_ missing from your list of desired features. you can get turn-by-turn Google Maps power directions for a few dollars in the Galaxy Gear app store by a third-party developer, but I'll admit it has mixed reviews (both the standalone and phone-powered versions). And Gmails pop up in real time via notifications, and there are probably Tizen apps for that too if not coming soon.
@Rkkerby I have poked around Samsung's "Gear Watch Face Designer" and I don't think it has the capability to incorporate calling the google assistant API or whatever. I think Samsung claims that Tizen OS is about as "open" as Android OS for developers, so the only thing stopping you from using Google Assistant on Your Samsung Gear is, well, you. Either as a developer or as a devoted daily galaxy app store searcher, please help do your part to help make this happen!
All that being said, please update this thread if you find an answer, and I will do the same. I plan on looking into Tizen Development before this year is over. There aren't many Tizen devs for some reason, but I don't think 5he platform is disappearing any time soon.
Vermilian said:
I have poked around Samsung's "Gear Watch Face Designer" and I don't think it has the capability to incorporate calling the google assistant API or whatever.
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There's no way to directly invoke Google Assistant through the watch face designer; there's a keycode used to summon the Assistant on an Android phone, or it can be launched via intent, however it doesn't support passing extradata (ie, the query). Samsung have locked down the watch like they do with all their hardware, making it difficult to do some things that would at first appear simple.
Vermilian said:
I think Samsung claims that Tizen OS is about as "open" as Android OS for developers, so the only thing stopping you from using Google Assistant on Your Samsung Gear is, well, you. Either as a developer or as a devoted daily galaxy app store searcher, please help do your part to help make this happen!
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Tizen is FOSS, unlike Android. While Samsung is the driving force behind Tizen, its source is available and contributed to by many other parties. That's the "Open" side of Tizen. The reality is that the Open Source software implemented on the Gear devices has been secured excellently by Samsung, which means there are hardcoded limitations which aren't mirrored in Android - eg, you can't initiate voice input to the phone via the watch.
Google Assistant as a standalone app on the Gear currently requires the user to pay for their queries (at an extremely low rate, however this is enough to dissuade many users nonetheless). The current best approach is to use a companion app to interface with the assistant.
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All that being said, please update this thread if you find an answer, and I will do the same. I plan on looking into Tizen Development before this year is over. There aren't many Tizen devs for some reason, but I don't think 5he platform is disappearing any time soon.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ge...anion-app-google-google-t3555452/post76758301

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Huawei GT2 and Voice Assistant

Hi everyone,
A voice assistant (like Google Assistant, Bixby, ...) is truly the only feature I miss on the GT2. Are there any known ways to install a voice assistant on the watch or somehow connect to the smartphone's Google Assistant from the watch?
I understand that by default the GT2 doesn't have an assistant and doesn't allow to install new apps. So one solution I had in mind was to develop an app for my phone that when initiating a call to a specific non-sense number would initiate a "conversation" with the phones GAssistant instead. Then one could just use the call functionality of the watch to set reminders etc.
But before I embark on a long and cumbersome project of developing such an app, I was hoping one of you might be able to point out a much easier solution that I have overlooked.
Does anything come to mind?
Thank you,
Henry
hi...I've been looking for something like that since the day I bought my GT2.
Is there any option found/created by you?
I started prototyping it initially and quickly learned that it's not trivial to do this on a non-rooted phone, because one would have to hijack the actual call audio. I don't have time to work on this at the moment, so I might have to look into it again at some future point. But if you implement a solution or find some other work-around, please let me know I'm still interested!

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