I need to record phone calls. My boss screams at me like a demon monster, and I'd like to preserve this fresh Hell for posterity... maybe make it my ringtone. (Yes, I have a right to in my state, as I am a party to the call)
Searching on AppBrain for 'phone call recorder' gives 13,997 results.
Ideally I'd like it to automatically start when I get a call from a certain number, and otherwise have a push-button start/stop while calls are in progress, and any other time.
Can anyone advise?
Quantumstate said:
I need to record phone calls. My boss screams at me like a demon monster, and I'd like to preserve this fresh Hell for posterity... maybe make it my ringtone. (Yes, I have a right to in my state, as I am a party to the call)
Searching on AppBrain for 'phone call recorder' gives 13,997 results.
Ideally I'd like it to automatically start when I get a call from a certain number, and otherwise have a push-button start/stop while calls are in progress, and any other time.
Can anyone advise?
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I think Google Voice has this feature, but it lets the other party know via an in-call announcement.
esone1ll said:
I think Google Voice has this feature, but it lets the other party know via an in-call announcement.
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Thanks, but no Google apps please. Don't trust them. Open-source is best.
Quantumstate said:
Thanks, but no Google apps please. Don't trust them. Open-source is best.
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Interesting choice of phone platforms given that you don't trust Google.
By the way, much of Google's software is open source with that source code freely available, including Android.
Though I've only looked for this in Nexus One forums, it seems that no one can figure out how to get an application (at least not involving GV) to capture audio on both sides of the conversation, unless it's on speaker or maybe a headset. Might vary by device though if it's a hardware thing.
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Interesting choice of phone platforms given that you don't trust Google.
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Long story. Sure you want to know?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730544
Yes N1 is the phone of concern. Odd that it's difficult to capture both sides. Shouldn't be difficult to emulate GV by looking at the source.
I was going to suggest Google Voice also. When you hit the number 2 or 4 (can't remember which), it will notify you and the other caller that the session is being recorded (which might shut your boss up for good!). You can even download the conversation into an mp3 format. It records both sides of the conversation, not just yours or his.
Now, why would Google give a crap what your boss is yelling about? My point exactly ... this isn't Big Brother ... yet.
Read that other thread to find out, if you're actually curious.
I notice that comments in many of the call recording apps say 'doesn't work', with one phone or another, usually newer phones. And I am gathering that G**gle Voice is closed-source, as are apparently many of their other apps, so reading source for tips on how to get both sides is not an option.
I wouldn't use G**gle apps in any case, but to notify my boss I am recording would probably get me fired today. I'm just wanting to collect his fiery, abusive calls just in case...
Apparently most apps are unable to record the other party's side of the conversation.
Does anyone know why this would be? What would it take to record both sides. I'm sure there are hooks in Android to get this.
All right, after considerable research it seems I am the best-informed around here.
It is now clear that there is no way a third-party app can record the orther end of the conversation, except in speakerphone mode. (MIC ONLY). Only Google Voice can do this, and it insists on using 'The Cloud' so they have control over all your conversations.
There is confusion over whether this is an API problem, or a driver problem, but if it's a driver problem both HTC and Motorola suffer from it.
So, this is a deal-breaker. No Android phone for me. I'm lucky I'm not already stuck with one.
Winduhs Mobile phones can record with third-party apps, as can the Symbian-based Nokia N8 when it comes out next month. So that's where I'm going.
Good bye Android
Hate to tell you this but you are butting you head up against a long time limitation of the "Smartphone" platform. It isn't limited to Android devices either. WinMo has the same limitations and it has to do with the OS not having access to the incoming audio stream.
Not true. Google Voice can do it, built-in, but I'm not sending all recordings to them, no sir.
This proves that the mechanisms are in place but that either the API is rigged, the drivers are, or documentation is lying. Everything records as documented in the emulated SDK, but not on the phone itself.
Phones that actually can record both sides are Nokia S60 & Maemo phones, including N900 & N8 (Recaller, Voxtrack Personal- beepless), Rseven on Symbian & WM, Mvoice & CallRec on Palm, Vito-Audionotes on HTC TouchPro2, Sony Ericsson c905 has the record option.
Right now I'm looking for a Linux port to any of the newer smartphones, as Linux can record and has nav apps, my two vital functions.
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Not true. Google Voice can do it, built-in, but I'm not sending all recordings to them, no sir.
This proves that the mechanisms are in place but that either the API is rigged, the drivers are, or documentation is lying. Everything records as documented in the emulated SDK, but not on the phone itself.
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That doesn't prove anything. Google Voice calls go through their servers. I can record calls between two landlines, if the call is made through GVoice. Does this mean that my 1970s-era, rotary-dial phone has the SDK to record calls?
It proves that I can't use Android.
I am not going to bicker with you.
This thread is comedy gold. There are several reasons why access the audio stream is restricted. Phones from many platforms cannot record both sides of the conversation, and I am surprised to hear that 3rd party apps can do this on WinMo. I would hazzard a guess that this requires more than just a regular run of the mill type install.
You seem to hate Android, and Google in particular. I have read your posts. I thank you for your lack of contribution to the forum. A good chuckle doesn't really count.
Your fear mongering and paranoia regarding big business and biased news is typical of someone living behind a computer for 52 years. Oh yes, that's you too. If you wish to spread your opinion, I would suggest you start a blog, rather than fill a forum with posts like these.
Take care.
Voice recorder app on win mobile
Until about 10 days ago when I bought my first android phone, a samsung vibrant which i am loving it, I was a windows mobile user for many years and it's true that there is an free app called PMrecoder, that records phone conversation (both sides) and saves it in a folder on the SD card. I still have the app on my Tmobile wing. This app works great and records all coversations automatically. I wish there was an app like that for android also. I am sure someone will come up with a similar app for android soon.
You have nothing but insults "SpeeDemon". {snicker}
Means nothing.
But thanks mayart, for another app that works.
total recall (paid app, about 10 dollards) tryes to do the job.
I've buy it, but...nobody never calls me.
Seriously: i come from an excellent nokia E65. It knew how to record some in's and out's very efficiently.
Doesn't work on Nexus One...
You should send a mail to the developers (company).
I think they want now to be efficient on Android phones, as they are for ages
on symbian (Nokia) ones.
Ah, never mind, I've found an app that does it.
However because of the abuse I was given in this thread I am not sharing it with this forum.
Have a nice day.
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is there any developers the could make this app its for WM 2003 smart phone OS but am sure some one on here will know if its possable n if so may even make it
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I could really use an application that records voice calls and stores them on my memory card. I know that I am not the only one who wants this functionality badly.
Many in the Modaco community seem to think that this is impossible, but I think we should see it as more of a challenge! Because I am not able to contribute with my programming skills (hah!), I'd like to instead contribute with my wallet. Let's start a pot.. I'll start it off:
I am willing to give $25 to the first programmer who can design an app that can:
- Record phone calls (incoming and outgoing) on the MS-Smartphone 2003SE OS
- Store the recordings onto the phone memory card
- (Ideally) Compress the sound-files into a reasonable size
I know that $25 is not an earth shattering incentive, but it is a start. My hope is that other users who want to support this effort will add to the pool. Collectively we can raise the pot high enough to interest capable developers and get the result we want.
What are you willing to contribute?
CURRENT POT: $165.00 USD
*Terms:
I'll cap the offers to a year, meaning anything developed before 2/30/2006 is eligible. I have no problems splitting the pot if programmers want to work in cooperation with one another. Developers who aren't interested in profiting are more than welcome to donate the pot to a charity of their choice. Did I miss anything here?
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PayableOnDeath
That can easily be done already. During the phone call, simply tap the note icon between tools and the contacts icon.. This will start a note with the caller information and phone number filled in. Tap the cassette at the bottom of the screen between tools and the pen icon, then tap the red record button above. It will record the conversation as long as you do not leave that screen, you cannot switch to any other application, not even the phone or it will stop recording.
Sorry, I misread. I thought you meant Pocket PC OS. Nevemind.
This isn't really pertaining to WM6, but I wanted everyone here to see it.
Google is offering free directory assitance now via voiceplan http://labs.google.com/goog411/ Just in case you are (like I frequently am) caught in a car when I cannot get online to type in the number and talking would much much simpler. I've only tried it once, and it worked for me.
From their site:
Welcome to Google Voice Local Search
Google Voice Local Search is Google’s experimental service to make local-business search accessible over the phone.
To try this service, just dial 1-800-GOOG-411 (1-800-466-4411) from any phone.
Using this service, you can:
search for a local business by name or category.
You can say "Giovanni's Pizzeria" or just "pizza".
get connected to the business, free of charge.
get the details by SMS if you’re using a mobile phone.
Just say "text message".
And it's free. Google doesn’t charge you a thing for the call or for connecting you to the business. Regular phone charges may apply, based on your telephone service provider.
Note: Google Voice Local Search is still in its experimental stage. It may not be available at all times and may not work for all users. We’re fine-tuning the service to get better at recognizing your requests. It’s currently only available in English, in the US, for US business listings.
ajmoncrief said:
This isn't really pertaining to WM6, but I wanted everyone here to see it.
Google is offering free directory assitance now via voiceplan http://labs.google.com/goog411/ Just in case you are (like I frequently am) caught in a car when I cannot get online to type in the number and talking would much much simpler. I've only tried it once, and it worked for me.
From their site:
Welcome to Google Voice Local Search
Google Voice Local Search is Google’s experimental service to make local-business search accessible over the phone.
To try this service, just dial 1-800-GOOG-411 (1-800-466-4411) from any phone.
Using this service, you can:
search for a local business by name or category.
You can say "Giovanni's Pizzeria" or just "pizza".
get connected to the business, free of charge.
get the details by SMS if you’re using a mobile phone.
Just say "text message".
And it's free. Google doesn’t charge you a thing for the call or for connecting you to the business. Regular phone charges may apply, based on your telephone service provider.
Note: Google Voice Local Search is still in its experimental stage. It may not be available at all times and may not work for all users. We’re fine-tuning the service to get better at recognizing your requests. It’s currently only available in English, in the US, for US business listings.
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its actually not THAT new but it is an excellent service. i love it. use it all the time. and its free.
*bows to google*
edit: since we are on the topic of new products. check out grandcentral.com. and thank me later.
hiimcliff said:
its actually not THAT new but it is an excellent service. i love it. use it all the time. and its free.
*bows to google*
edit: since we are on the topic of new products. check out grandcentral.com. and thank me later.
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Grandcentral is old too
CUSTEL said:
Grandcentral is old too
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yeah i thought so too
but it was new to me when i read that google was buying it. thats when i googled grandcentral.com
its cool though isnt it?
grandcentral
Way cool, simply amazing stuff. What a find! Well done.
Cheers
So i take you guys already know about the text google at 46645 to find info out.
Funny I dropped my grandcentral account today because I just got an 8525 and well since you have to press the number 1, 2 or 3 on an incoming call in order to answer it from grandcentral I just began missing too many calls on this phone.
On an incoming call on these phones you are not presented with the dialpad for pressing a number. First I have to grab my phone, even though I have my bluetooth on which is a bummer in itself, then I have to hit the answer button, then I have hit the dialpad button, then I have to hit the corresponding number to answer the call.
This is not easy when driving, and it sucks to have to do so much to answer a call. Granted I love the service and think grandcentral rocks, not to mention the rumour that google is in talks to acquire them. But there has to be a way to disable this feature or use voice maybe to answer.
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Funny I dropped my grandcentral account today because I just got an 8525 and well since you have to press the number 1, 2 or 3 on an incoming call in order to answer it from grandcentral I just began missing too many calls on this phone.
On an incoming call on these phones you are not presented with the dialpad for pressing a number. First I have to grab my phone, even though I have my bluetooth on which is a bummer in itself, then I have to hit the answer button, then I have hit the dialpad button, then I have to hit the corresponding number to answer the call.
This is not easy when driving, and it sucks to have to do so much to answer a call. Granted I love the service and think grandcentral rocks, not to mention the rumour that google is in talks to acquire them. But there has to be a way to disable this feature or use voice maybe to answer.
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very valid complaint. post it to their feedback team. they are quite quick on the draw with answering concerns. try it and see.
This is some great info guys, but it needs to be moved to a more appropriate thread. Moving now...
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Google aquired grandcentral.com officially today and already dropped the mp3 ring back tones.
damn bureaucracy
Don't know if any of you have played with this little app yet, but I discovered it this morning and I think I'm in love.
http://www.dialplus.net/product/
From the developer:
DialPlus changes the definition of a phone call.
DialPlus enriches the standard phone call experience by automatically and simultaneously providing dynamic, contextually relevant visual information about the called or calling party before the call is answered, during the call and after the call is over. DialPlus makes it easy for users to engage in mobile social networking or to get information about a business they're speaking with, such as directions, menus and reviews.
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In a nutshell, it will link with any social networking accounts you have to display information about your contacts. It will also use the magics of the intarwebs to display information on business you call. Pretty nifty little add-on.
Hope y'all enjoy.
-John
In Love?
I downloaded. I tried it. I'm not really in love.
Don't get me wrong, it's an interesting idea, but not quite ready for prime time, as they say. I called myself from my work phone, and it never did bring up the browser page for my well known area hospital. It seems to only look at MySpace or Facebook for matches, but didn't find several of my contacts who are in both.
I'm not at all sure I would be in love with this app unless perhaps I had written it or was marketing it?
Okay, okay, maybe not in love. Since discovering it this morning, I have done some tinkering and it's definitely clear that it has quite a few bugs remaining in it. I don't guess I'm ready to make it a part of my daily life, but it will definitely be an interesting project to watch as it matures.
So I asked them why only damn iphone apps and this is their reply:
"at this point we've waited so long for low latency audio on Android that it doesn't seem to be a plausible option at this time."
Is that BS from incompetent devs or real?
This is some of their stuff.
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/iklip/apps/
Simple: It's true.
I can't post links yet, but google for "android issue 3434", or the andraudio mailing list.
Audio Latency on Android is baaaad - and they still haven't implemented a solution for it, although the issue has been open for years.
Its true and Google doesnt give a *
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx97XEr2qF4#t=46m34s
If TMobile gets an iPhone im out of Android. I would rather have to jailbreak a phone and lose ROM options but be able to get a music production workflow on my phone. I cant believe Google seems to care so little about such a fundamental issue
tl;dr I'm new, I'm not a very knowledgeable developer, I have an idea that I want your opinion about.
Heyo Peoples,
I'm new and I like to think a lot about cool new stuff with mobile devices (web, software, hardware, etc). I've been thinking a lot recently about how people like to use mobile devices, and how we might use them in the near future--thinking past what's being done now, and into what comes next.
I've been wondering for a while why there isn't an existing piece of functionality on mobile devices that allows a user complete control of the device and every piece of information on it. Imagine a GUI except instead of graphics, it's like interacting with a person. (aside: first person to say Siri should be shunned like an Amish girl who went to a movie theater).
Is it outrageous to say that you should be able to pick up your phone and have it find anything, from anytime in the past that you have done with or on it? I know that would take mountains of data, but is it silly? In it's most basic form, this would just be a search feature. In it's most eloquent form it could be an operating system. Imagine being able to ask your phone what you did last Wednesday, or maybe where you were. What if it could recall emails or documents based on date, time, location where you were when you wrote it, keyword, or contact, based on verbal interaction? What if it tracked data usage by application, or allowed you to measure and optimize system performance with a verbal command (ex. "Shut down all apps except for Google Maps" or "How much data am I using per minute").
Is it too early to start wishing for an interface like that computer on Paycheck (horrible movie with Ben Afleck) or Cortana in Halo? Is this type of interface impractical or implausible?
If you were to make something like this, would it have to be a new operating system built from the ground up, or could you develop an app to do this, or could you hack Android to do it? I welcome all of your feedback.
Lots of questions, and I have very few answers.
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tl;dr I'm new, I'm not a very knowledgeable developer, I have an idea that I want your opinion about.
Heyo Peoples,
I'm new and I like to think a lot about cool new stuff with mobile devices (web, software, hardware, etc). I've been thinking a lot recently about how people like to use mobile devices, and how we might use them in the near future--thinking past what's being done now, and into what comes next.
I've been wondering for a while why there isn't an existing piece of functionality on mobile devices that allows a user complete control of the device and every piece of information on it. Imagine a GUI except instead of graphics, it's like interacting with a person. (aside: first person to say Siri should be shunned like an Amish girl who went to a movie theater).
Is it outrageous to say that you should be able to pick up your phone and have it find anything, from anytime in the past that you have done with or on it? I know that would take mountains of data, but is it silly? In it's most basic form, this would just be a search feature. In it's most eloquent form it could be an operating system. Imagine being able to ask your phone what you did last Wednesday, or maybe where you were. What if it could recall emails or documents based on date, time, location where you were when you wrote it, keyword, or contact, based on verbal interaction? What if it tracked data usage by application, or allowed you to measure and optimize system performance with a verbal command (ex. "Shut down all apps except for Google Maps" or "How much data am I using per minute").
Is it too early to start wishing for an interface like that computer on Paycheck (horrible movie with Ben Afleck) or Cortana in Halo? Is this type of interface impractical or implausible?
If you were to make something like this, would it have to be a new operating system built from the ground up, or could you develop an app to do this, or could you hack Android to do it? I welcome all of your feedback.
Lots of questions, and I have very few answers.
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This is probably not as far off as it seems. The developers of "Utter" have come along way in the right direction. You should maybe approach them with your ideas. Not all of them of course . Save some for yourself.
One problem I see is semantics. "Shut down all apps except for Google Maps" sounds good - but do you really mean ALL apps ? The line that would be walked is one where the developer must train the program to not necessarily do what they ask, but do what they WANT. It gets trickier when you realise that some people who aren't your average users might want to test things and shut down an app (in this case) that an average user would never want shut, where they might mess up their phone beyond their ability to repair if they did.
I think speech is a great tool to interact, though I'm not going to be a person to use it. I don't think speech will ever become a default unless there are other technological advances that change how we interact with the world. It's annoying enough to hear someone gabbing loudly to another human on the phone, do we really want people gabbing AT their phones as a default interface ? I think privacy is a driving factor that will keep sound from being a major interface - perhaps it could work for in home applications, but out in public people may not want to announce to the world who they are calling, what they are looking for, or what site they're logging on to, et cetera. Until there's technology to make voice and sound less "public", I don't see this being the future of phones - it's more of a nice thing to have as an "extra" for when a person is comfortable using it.
But, hey, maybe we'll get used to wearing Google Glass and talking to ourselves all the time - or we'll get in-ear buds or implants where we can choose to hear the outside world or not. Just exploring the possibilities here.
I do think it's a big "outrageous" to have infinite backup. Just take a look at how much data companies like Amazon and Facebook acquire on a per-day basis. Think about how much data you use on a daily basis. I don't have the money or desire to be buying new HDDs every other week. Maybe in the future there will be a technological revolution that allows for mass amounts of data to be stored in even smaller spaces. But current technology in that regard is still very expensive and persnickety - read about high capacity SD cards and how fragile they can be and about data needing to be "refreshed" or they can become corrupt. There are lots of issues that make backing up everything you do impracticable.
And, again - privacy concerns. Do I really want my computer to know what I did last Wednesday and who I was with ? What if someone stole my computer or phone and had access to that information ? If we had the technology to do that, who's to say that current encryption would be "enough" - or that someone wouldn't go ahead and try to hack it anyway if they felt finding out basically everything about you was worth brute-forcing your phone or whatever they'd do in the future ? And have no password or a crappy one - even easier for them to know EVERYTHING about you, now.
Highly visual and talk-activated computers are absolutely great for games, movies, and TV. Why ? They function as narrative devices. They allow the actor to say or explain things they otherwise wouldn't have said out loud for personal, practical, or security reasons. They can become characters in their own right. People like those big screen computer displays where the characters are poking things all over and up and down - it looks cool. But not so cool is having your arms get tired from reaching up and around all the time. Not so cool is having to tell the computer out loud what kind of special images you want to search for when you have house-mates living in the next room over.
Just some thoughts. If you have other or counter ideas, go right on ahead.