I am a staunch user of Google and Samsung products. With the S3 running Tizen it seems as if I have lost the Google/Samsung marriage I have grown to love. In particular, I am very disappointed that I cannot choose Google assistant over S voice. S Voice seems 3 to 5 years behind Google assistant.
Is it likely that someone will connect Google assistant and the Gear S3?
I suspect it's very unlikely. Google assistant/OK Google is android wear's big selling point. I'm the same as you, I miss proper Google integration with voice and Gmail etc, but I find the gear s3 and the samsung ui to be much better. I'd love OK Google, Google maps and Gmail on the s3 but it won't happen.
@photojonny FYI "OK Google" is the only thing that is _actually_ missing from your list of desired features. you can get turn-by-turn Google Maps power directions for a few dollars in the Galaxy Gear app store by a third-party developer, but I'll admit it has mixed reviews (both the standalone and phone-powered versions). And Gmails pop up in real time via notifications, and there are probably Tizen apps for that too if not coming soon.
@Rkkerby I have poked around Samsung's "Gear Watch Face Designer" and I don't think it has the capability to incorporate calling the google assistant API or whatever. I think Samsung claims that Tizen OS is about as "open" as Android OS for developers, so the only thing stopping you from using Google Assistant on Your Samsung Gear is, well, you. Either as a developer or as a devoted daily galaxy app store searcher, please help do your part to help make this happen!
All that being said, please update this thread if you find an answer, and I will do the same. I plan on looking into Tizen Development before this year is over. There aren't many Tizen devs for some reason, but I don't think 5he platform is disappearing any time soon.
Vermilian said:
I have poked around Samsung's "Gear Watch Face Designer" and I don't think it has the capability to incorporate calling the google assistant API or whatever.
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There's no way to directly invoke Google Assistant through the watch face designer; there's a keycode used to summon the Assistant on an Android phone, or it can be launched via intent, however it doesn't support passing extradata (ie, the query). Samsung have locked down the watch like they do with all their hardware, making it difficult to do some things that would at first appear simple.
Vermilian said:
I think Samsung claims that Tizen OS is about as "open" as Android OS for developers, so the only thing stopping you from using Google Assistant on Your Samsung Gear is, well, you. Either as a developer or as a devoted daily galaxy app store searcher, please help do your part to help make this happen!
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Tizen is FOSS, unlike Android. While Samsung is the driving force behind Tizen, its source is available and contributed to by many other parties. That's the "Open" side of Tizen. The reality is that the Open Source software implemented on the Gear devices has been secured excellently by Samsung, which means there are hardcoded limitations which aren't mirrored in Android - eg, you can't initiate voice input to the phone via the watch.
Google Assistant as a standalone app on the Gear currently requires the user to pay for their queries (at an extremely low rate, however this is enough to dissuade many users nonetheless). The current best approach is to use a companion app to interface with the assistant.
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All that being said, please update this thread if you find an answer, and I will do the same. I plan on looking into Tizen Development before this year is over. There aren't many Tizen devs for some reason, but I don't think 5he platform is disappearing any time soon.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ge...anion-app-google-google-t3555452/post76758301
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Google announces its Android devices Wear wearable
In the midst of widespread devices wearable glasses and hours clever and others have become manufacturers in front of an urgent need to find a system of distinctive inoperable on these devices , which prompted Google to finally announce its new Android Wear your devices wearable .
Google announced via her blog on the Internet for its new Android Wear and allocated to the wearable devices and is derived from the system Ondorad your portable devices as they posted a promotional video for this system .
One of the main advantages of the system Ondorad Wear is integrated into the existing voice commands as well as in smart glasses Google Google Glass, where only via voice command (Ok Google) the user can identify a lot of the information you would like to know as well as many other features .
They also announced the nexus smart watch. Don't know if that's what you're referring to but it was talked about on the android dev YouTube channel
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I've had a Sony sw2 for a couple of months now. I'm very happy with the device, it's a nice build, good size and has some cracking features not avalible on other smartwatch offerings.
Naturally as with any platform the hardware and it's possible features are one thing but ongoing software development is crucial.
I recently contacted Runtastic regarding the lack of basic functionality in their app (closes after timeout so has to be relaunched every time you want to view progress and doesn't use low power functionality). Unfortunately their response was to say that new functionality (or in my opinion basic necessary functionality) would require a complete rewrite and so at this time they have no plans to update their app for Sony support. They also mentioned that the issue is the multiple smartwatch platforms which they believe will be sorted by Android wear, a platform they are throwing themselves at.
Given Runtastic was flagship app for the device on launch my concern is that this spells out a pathway for many apps as support moves toward android wear. In reality Sony need to either commit to the new platform (android wear) and do something to comfort it's present watch owners or push for developers to truly accept their platform as viable and beneficial. If they can't even do this with partner apps like Runtastic, what does that mean for our watches future?
Ps sorry for the long message just interested in the thoughts of others!
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Don't buy runtastic. The sw2 does a good deal more than Android wear, but unfortunately Sony doesn't invest in the marketing for it. Not too many people have even heard of it, so devs don't want to focus on it. Best case scenario is that Android wear improves more in the future. The smartwatch industry is just in Flux right now. Be happy you got to appreciate the sw2 while everyone else was forced to talk into their watch (which requires a constant Internet connection as well).
The SW2 is sat in a wheelchair with a blanket over its straps, in the corner of the dayroom in 'We care so you don't have to' retirement home.
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I've had a Sony sw2 for a couple of months now. I'm very happy with the device, it's a nice build, good size and has some cracking features not avalible on other smartwatch offerings.
Naturally as with any platform the hardware and it's possible features are one thing but ongoing software development is crucial.
I recently contacted Runtastic regarding the lack of basic functionality in their app (closes after timeout so has to be relaunched every time you want to view progress and doesn't use low power functionality). Unfortunately their response was to say that new functionality (or in my opinion basic necessary functionality) would require a complete rewrite and so at this time they have no plans to update their app for Sony support. They also mentioned that the issue is the multiple smartwatch platforms which they believe will be sorted by Android wear, a platform they are throwing themselves at.
Given Runtastic was flagship app for the device on launch my concern is that this spells out a pathway for many apps as support moves toward android wear. In reality Sony need to either commit to the new platform (android wear) and do something to comfort it's present watch owners or push for developers to truly accept their platform as viable and beneficial. If they can't even do this with partner apps like Runtastic, what does that mean for our watches future?
Ps sorry for the long message just interested in the thoughts of others!
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Runtastic doesn't need a complete re-write. That's bull. The app just needs a small line of code added. Runtastic was made when the Sony SDK did not allow low-power mode. Runtastic just never bothered to update their SW2 app after launching it.
Add some money to my bounty and someone with some know-how might take the time to figure out how to add the code for a mod.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758706
how to add lowpower mode to an SW2 extension
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...de-support-to-your-smartwatch-2-app-tutorial/
Hi.
I have worked in a project involving a Samsung Gear Live, a Nexus 4 and a cloud service called Kii Cloud.
Since all the source code is available I thought that hackers in this particular Android Wear forum might want to take a look at it.
It uses a library called Teleport which facilitates communication between the watch and the phone.
I thought that it could be interesting for a scenario to monitor the elder and see if they're still ticking
blog.kii.com/?p=3942
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German
I know it's silly, as well as very early to ask this question but will it be possible in near future (around 1 year) for developers to create wear os for galaxy watch?
Because galaxy watch has one of the best hardware for a watch however tizen has it's own limitation like lack of applications, Google assistant etc.
If not, then is it good for me to wait for some other company (maybe google itself) to launch a new watch having much better features?
Hi everyone,
A voice assistant (like Google Assistant, Bixby, ...) is truly the only feature I miss on the GT2. Are there any known ways to install a voice assistant on the watch or somehow connect to the smartphone's Google Assistant from the watch?
I understand that by default the GT2 doesn't have an assistant and doesn't allow to install new apps. So one solution I had in mind was to develop an app for my phone that when initiating a call to a specific non-sense number would initiate a "conversation" with the phones GAssistant instead. Then one could just use the call functionality of the watch to set reminders etc.
But before I embark on a long and cumbersome project of developing such an app, I was hoping one of you might be able to point out a much easier solution that I have overlooked.
Does anything come to mind?
Thank you,
Henry
hi...I've been looking for something like that since the day I bought my GT2.
Is there any option found/created by you?
I started prototyping it initially and quickly learned that it's not trivial to do this on a non-rooted phone, because one would have to hijack the actual call audio. I don't have time to work on this at the moment, so I might have to look into it again at some future point. But if you implement a solution or find some other work-around, please let me know I'm still interested!