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Totally stoked by the phone. Watched online how to "easily" get it working. It took the guy minutes. I've messed with it for hours. After applying what seemed like WAY too much pressure, I was able to get it to recognize my print. Afterwards......nothing. It won't open or unlock a dang thing.
It appears it'd be a functional, useful item. I'd also like to blow minds. I can't do either.
Maybe it's a bum sensor? I bought it from Amazon so an exchange is an option.
Sure wish I could get a P8 Max.
Any tips or suggestions?
Hello, it's been a while since i posted here, the last time i managed to figure out the stuff i needed by my own but i hope i'm more lucky this time as i cant really find anything about this topic either here or anywhere else.
I'm needing a new phone as the old/current one is broken and i dont want to spend more than for buying a new one to repair it.
The few phones that i like, within my specs and price range, have the fingerprint sensor, now, i know everyone gets super excited about that because nobody can touch their phone(i'm still wondering how people can have so important stuff to hide to need a fingerprint sensor lol), yet i seriously dislike them and dont really want it on my phone.
Before someone says i can "disable it" from setup, i know that, but disabling it from menu is equal to put a curtain infront of a window while someone is burning your car. You wont see him doing it, but that wont stop the car from burning down to dust.
Clarified this, i'd like to know if anyone ever tried unplugging a fingerprint sensor on their phone, and if it did work or not.
My main doubt is if the sensor itself is used as a resistance, impedance or a simple any form of current/power delivery system, thus being a fundamental component to close the circuit.
Please answer only if you really know what are you talking about. Thanks a lot everyone for at least bothering to read my odd question.
ps: the phone i'm currently looking at is the Honor 7 lite, aka the "poor" brother of the Huawei GT3. I know they also made the Honor 5c, which already comes without sensor, but i cant find it for sale anywhere(other than the other side of the world, with prohibitive shipping costs and huge customs costs) so i'll have to stick to the Honor 7, and remove that sensor, if it is possible, or just get another phone.
Wow, and this is supposed to be the best mobile phone forum ever... i've solved on my own anyways.
I love how fast the Fast Unlock feature is... but I was curious as to how secure the facial recognition technology actually is.
I did a test today with my father and my brother-in-law try to see if they could unlock the OP6 with their faces. My father and I look relatively similar and my brother-in-law, while there is no blood relation, has similar facial features.
To my surprise, the Oneplus 6 unlocked for both of them! I removed my current face profile, set it again, and have them try a second time and the phone unlocked again.
I'm going to continue to experiment with this with other friends (one's who have similar features as well as those with distinctly different features) and see if I can continue to reproduce these results.
Community: Has anyone else experimented with this? If so, what was your result?
Interesting [emoji106] will watch the thread... The technology should be similar to the oneplus 5t so maybe there your will find some more info?
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Was it not because you were near the phone and that it also saw your face when they tried to unlock it?
I never heard before that someone could have fooled the phone with face unlock.
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Yes, it's not secure. My friend picked up my phone and it unlocked. ?
Just tried it and surprising yes, it seems other people can unlock mine with their face [emoji50]
that sounds strange.
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I tested it out on my daughter and she was able to unlock it with face unlock. It's not very secure.
If you're worried about security don't use biometrics.
Without dual cameras and 3d rendering face unlock is not secure
Hmm not secure indeed on op6. I tested and keep my hand on half off my face and it still unlocks. On my 5t it works way better? Disable face unlock till issue is solved, I thought that oneplus said that face recognition was improved on op6.
Regards ysco..
Yupp, I removed it.. When my father just took the handset to admire the outer body and it unlocked within 2 seconds when he pressed unlock button.. I tried it again and it unlocked again.. So I removed this bull**** from security..
I thought , one day I will find my dad reading my sex chat.. Prevention is better the cure.. I just removed it without saying a word.. ????
rmaathuis said:
Was it not because you were near the phone and that it also saw your face when they tried to unlock it?
I never heard before that someone could have fooled the phone with face unlock.
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No, was not next to him... I locked the phone and handed it to him across the table. He pressed power and the phone scanned his face and unlocked.
I think OnePlus's "fast" face unlock is much worse than stock. It just traces out the rough geometry
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I think OnePlus's "fast" face unlock is much worse than stock. It just traces out the rough geometry
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Yeah, that's why it's so fast. It's not at all secure, more of a gimmick.
Dont care much for security....but är missed the lockscreen too much, had to dissable Face Unlock again
My dog unlocked my OP6, what does say about me? Lol, I'm one ugly mofo or my dog is one handsome poodle.
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My dog unlocked my OP6, what does say about me? Lol, I'm one ugly mofo or my dog is one handsome poodle.
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You're ugly
It seems like everyone who has replied is ok with this?
Just makes me wonder what other features and solutions are gimmicks... What else did they skimp on...
I thought OnePlus already mentioned that the face unlock is not secure.
I turned off Face Unlock because it was so fast I could never see my notifications. The fingerprint scanner works well enough for my taste.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy S10e, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S10e is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
It's a good phone, lots of functionality and software options.
It should be a great phone but there are three things that do annoy me that I notice all the time.
The side fingerprint sensor combined with power button isn't nice to use in some circumstances, especially if fingers are slightly damp and it doesn't read the print, refuses to unlock and you're trying to press the power button to PIN unlock instead and it registers too many attempts.
The screen is just a bit too narrow. I miskey on it a lot more than with my Axon 7.
Another screen thing, when attempting to touch a selection on a web page, the accuracy when zoomed out is not as good as my Axon 7 and I have to zoom in first. Sounds trivial but is quite annoying and here I am comparing a 900 dollar phone back to a 400 dollar phone and not finding the cheaper one to be a worse experience.
The whinges out of the way, there is a heck of a lot of good about the S10e to enjoy.
Garbage
Bootloader is locked so that right there makes me give it 1 star. The phone is mine so I should have the ability to root it if I want. C'mon Samsung or anyone affiliated with them, let us unlock the fu**ing bootloader; your warranty is sh*t anyway. Peace!!
I'm pretty happy with the hardware, if you could unlock the bootloader. Inevitably Google changes something that you can only revert with something like Xposed. Or there's OneUI stuff you can't change (like moving or getting rid of the clock on the left of status bar).
A few minor things I miss not being rooted. Battery is a little on the small side. I came from a Droid Turbo, and that thing was a tank so I didn't need a case.
A lot of little things about OneUI I don't care for, and can't change. But my main gripe is notifications on this phone are a nightmare. It took me FOREVER to find and setup an app to give it a notification light, and then get notification reminders to work properly (still isn't perfect). And yet with the chaos of too damn many notification options, it STILL is inadequate and inflexible - if your app doesn't let you set its own notification sound, or OneUI ignores it, you have only the default system or ringtone sounds. You can't otherwise set a different sound for text notifications.
I guess the more I think about it, the lower my rating goes. It's working pretty good for me, now, after DOZENS OF HOURS searching out workarounds for mods that were easily done in a custom rom. And on that basis I have to give it only 3 stars.
I might actually consider trading out for the Pixel 4a, which looks to have a similar footprint. But no wireless charging would be a deal-breaker.
Missing certain features to make me love it 100% but I am pretty happy with it. My first galaxy phone (had the nexus and the epic 4g which were both terrible). Besides that I had an Asus Zenfone 2 and an Axon 7.
This is a really nice device. Good build quality. I\ve had better for the same price or cheaper.
I am very happy with this phone after losing the fight with my Sony phones to get them to work with VoLTE in Australia. the S10e is a good size, (not quite as good as the Xperia compacts), and is responsive to most commands. the battery lasts really well and the screen is very good.The fingerprint sensor drives me nuts and works only randomly. The finger print sensor on the Xperia XZ2 and XZ3 work really well and I miss that. I have a Galaxy tablet and the finger print sensor is no good on that either. All in all, a quality phone that will hopefully last me a few years.
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I am very happy with this phone after losing the fight with my Sony phones to get them to work with VoLTE in Australia. the S10e is a good size, (not quite as good as the Xperia compacts), and is responsive to most commands. the battery lasts really well and the screen is very good.The fingerprint sensor drives me nuts and works only randomly. The finger print sensor on the Xperia XZ2 and XZ3 work really well and I miss that. I have a Galaxy tablet and the finger print sensor is no good on that either. All in all, a quality phone that will hopefully last me a few years.
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Have you checked the quality of your fingerprints? My mother had the same issue, turns out her fingers have almost no fingerprints. The fingerprint scanner on the S10e is awesome and you should not be having any issue whatsoever.
Derbi75 said:
Have you checked the quality of your fingerprints? My mother had the same issue, turns out her fingers have almost no fingerprints. The fingerprint scanner on the S10e is awesome and you should not be having any issue whatsoever.
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I am sure after years of being in trade work my finger prints are compromised, but the Xperia XZ2 and XZ3 worked perfectly with my fingers, where the S10e is hit and miss even for my wife who's hands are not abused like mine. Typically repeatedly get the message "cover the entire fingerprint sensor". Sometimes it work instantly, other times even the facial recognition does not work, but most of the time it does. Love the phone though.
I just got a One Hyper and generally love it, EXCEPT the fingerprint sensor almost never works? My previous Motorola G5 Plus gets my finger/thumb pretty much instantly every time. No matter how many times I've deleted and reprogrammed the fingerprints on this One Hyper it only recognizes a finger press 1 out of 10 or 20 presses???? Seems like it worked better, but not near perfectly when I first started using it and it's been all but entirely useless since I did the Android 11 upgrade soon after getting it?
I've watched several video reviews that either don't mention this being a problem or even say the fingerprint sensor works well??? So, I'm thinking I may have gotten a dud? I'd just return it to Amazon, but I bought it in the USA right before returning to Canada and I even left the box in the US. Maybe Motorola would swap it out under warranty? Or maybe I could just pay for a replacement sensor?
I would return it.
If you get a replacement, disable OTA updates and leave it on 10. Android 11/12 are a mess.
Scoped storage and forced encryption are fully active.
As I mentioned, returning it would be complex, possibly impossible. I could get the original box sent to me in Canada since I left it at my mom's house in the US? Maybe I could get a swap out from Motorola, I'd likely have to send my current unit to the US and might have to get the replacement sent to the US and forwarded to me here in Canada?
What a mess. I should have taken the issue more seriously when I first got it, should have done a return to Amazon right off the bat.
I have a support escalation request in with Motorola, so we'll see where that goes I suppose. The first teir support guy just suggested the classic, "First, Do a factory reset." I really doubt that'll fix this phone. And I've spent days getting this phone set up to my liking. But if this sensor isn't ever going to work, that's a deal breaker. Way too used to working fingerprint unlocking to go back to a password.
Well, I haven't heard from Motorola yet, but I trained the same finger for all 5 available fingers and now it unlocks perfectly every time? It seems to get my thumb with only one "finger" trained with it. That's what I use on my G5 Plus, because the sensor is on the front. I like the phone a lot in general, so I was VERY keen to find a solution. But disappointing, as I'd like to be able to train more than one finger! The 5 fingerprint limit is a little frustrating. The fact that the software isn't robust enough to actually learn my prints in the one little training session it gives is pretty frustrating! You should be able to go into those settings and keep on adding finger presses to train it better, faster manually. AND It sure would be nice if you could set your own limit for unsuccessful tries before it makes you enter a PIN or password. I was simply never getting in in the number of allowed presses. So I don't think it was training the AI very well, thus not improving the recognition.
So, solution seemingly found, I don't >think< this is a hardware or design flaw? Sure does seem like lousy software, perhaps in the Android 11 code? I didn't use it with 10 very long, but it did seem to do a lot better recognizing my fingerprints before I did the 11 update.
AHHHHH!!!!! And this morning the same finger that was unlocking pretty much instantly every time after yesterdays "fix" isn't recognized try after try after try this morning??
No one else is having these kinds of issues? Everyone is getting fast, consistent fingerprint recognition?
Otherwise I love this phone! The pop up selfy cam so when it's face up on a table I know no camera can see anything unless that front camera is popped out is so perfect I do not understand why that's not on most phones??!! Notches and holes in screens are going to be so dated and laughable as soon as that falls out of fashion. Good cameras. Plenty of built in storage AND an SD slot? Dual sims?!!! (American living in Canada here!) 3.5mm analog headphone jack??? This is my PERFECT phone, at least for this price. EXCEPT if I can't get consistent, fast fingerrpint recognition, I am simply not going to keep this phone. WTF???!!!! WHY is does this work so dramatically worse than my old G5 Plus??
Deleted all fingerprints. Set three to my pointer finder, one to my middle finger, one to my thumb. It's working pretty much perfectly now! On either finger and the thumb it seems. BUT, for how long??!! Will I wake up tomorrow and have to reprogram all five fingerprints?? At this point, I have to assume it's going to stop working in the next day or so??? Pray I'm wrong!!!!