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im in a bit of a spot got a Samsung Rugby Smart recently from a friend, wiped it and input my gmail date in. my daugther was trying to unlock it and missed the pattern too many times. worse part is it wont accept my gmail.com info. is there anyway around this like installing a new OS. any help would be greatly appreciated.
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im in a bit of a spot got a Samsung Rugby Smart recently from a friend, wiped it and input my gmail date in. my daugther was trying to unlock it and missed the pattern too many times. worse part is it wont accept my gmail.com info. is there anyway around this like installing a new OS. any help would be greatly appreciated.
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USB debugging was on or not ?
abhi7395 said:
USB debugging was on or not ?
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no it wasnt phone was basically fully stocked didnt get around to doing anything with it.
danjin said:
no it wasnt phone was basically fully stocked didnt get around to doing anything with it.
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Sorry but cracking of pattern lock is only possible if debugging mode is on ...
But there are many post on xda that claims that you can crack pattern lock even if your debugging mode is off ... try it ...
Best of luck...
Hey guys. I have a problem I tried to speak Spanish as forums but got HTCMania solve anything.
Before I thought it was problem of CM 11 that I turned off the phone suddenly (not restart, it shuts down) and occurred 1 time every 3 or 4 days, now increasingly occurs more often, yesterday I turned off the phone 6 times, this night while sleeping 3 times went out. It made me late for work again because the phone was turned off and the alarm did not go off ... following tips, did not solve anything. I factory reset everything I installed the stock ROM without root or anything, I installed Paranoid Android, SlimKat, Illusion ... nothing, with all the ROM I just turn off the phone. Not have more than 3 ½ months of use and this has been happening since 1 month. I gather it can be battery problem or the device itself, but it is something that has no solution for me. I live in Venezuela and bought me phone my mother and sent from Spain, along with the bootloader already unlocked, the warranty is not going to accept me or have possibility to send. I have searched a thousand Internet sites (Venezuela because the outside you can not buy anything here) and I do not find the battery moto G, to buy and to me installed in a technical service, but even on Amazon U.S. found nothing .
I fell into despair because I can not find any solution, I've calibrated the battery and also keeps shutting off, so I already was without resources, ideas and nothing to do but to stay with the phone and continuously be aware that if the phone turns off,,,, I have to turn it on again, buy an alarm clock to not be late for work again.
Continue pending if anyone can give me some solution, try anything, because nothing I lose ... buy a phone in this country is an impossible task because notice that a regular phone range Moto G (which is cheaper) costs Complete 4 months my salary.
Again thank you very much for your help and am awaiting any news that they can provide me. Hughs
I can't help you, nor I'll even bother trying.Your phone probably has some hardware fault ( too much gaming on it? ).
But what I wanted to tell you is that, you shouldn't have screwed around with your phone, if you can't afford to lose it. You should have never unlocked the bootloader in first place.
A lesson has been learned.
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I can't help you, nor I'll even bother trying.Your phone probably has some hardware fault ( too much gaming on it? ).
But what I wanted to tell you is that, you shouldn't have screwed around with your phone, if you can't afford to lose it. You should have never unlocked the bootloader in first place.
A lesson has been learned.
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I unlocked the bootloader because I live far from the site where phone was bought. if phone got any problem I can't send it to warranty anytime so whats suposed I must to do? to be on stock frimware and don't root my phone? so all we must do that? then can't understand why there are lot of scene about root ROMs and all that. of course I know my rosks when I unlock my bootloader and root my phone but is my decission, if noone must unlock the bootloader then this kinds of forums would be useless.
Anytime, this community is the best for this kind of scene, root, ROMs and all around that.
I didn't play too much just played a bit, you really think that suposed hardware problem is because I rooted my phone? I bought it 3 1/2 mounth ago and I didn't have any problem, just 1 mounth ago started with this. I think is a factory problem, maybe hardware maybe battery, but not around root or ROM installed.
I was asking just because maybe someone got the same problem and can help be. I appreciate your cooperation like all kind of cooperation but need solutions, not lessons of what I souldn't do.
Thanks anytime
Replacement batteries can be found on eBay. I'd try that first.
SbM_ said:
Replacement batteries can be found on eBay. I'd try that first.
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They can't import stuff there that easy, thats one of his main problems.Probably eBay is not an option for him.Not 100% sure about that tho.
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too much gaming on it? ).
You should have never unlocked the bootloader in first place.
A lesson has been learned.
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What are you saying??? Are you kidding?!?
gaming on a phone dont destroy it :/
"a lesson has been learned" nope because he did not understand what happened
1- you should fomated all your phone ( use TWRP recovery), then flash stock Firmware.
2- after that,you turn off your phone BY YOU and plug chager for 1 day.
3- restart your phone and check.
4- it's my solutions. :thumbup: ,hope it's help.
Sent from my XT1033
agalam84 said:
I unlock my bootloader and root my phone...
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as u wrote seems an hardware problem so not solvable itself.
u can relock the bootloader the bootloader and remove warning at boot if u want maybe motorola accept it in warranty, i havent clear if u can sent it to them...
when your problem start? after that u did something or itself, maybe something with bootloader
i hope u can solve your problem
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What are you saying??? Are you kidding?!?
gaming on a phone dont destroy it :/
"a lesson has been learned" nope because he did not understand what happened
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With that said, I don't think you'll understand even if I paint it for you.
Try reading my post again, give it a thought for a while, eventually it will come to my mind what I'm saying and why.
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With that said, I don't think you'll understand even if I paint it for you.
Try reading my post again, give it a thought for a while, eventually it will come to my mind what I'm saying and why.
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sorry I do not want to be rude but he want a solution not a moralist
My jaw is on the floor, i have no idea how this happened. I work IT for a living, i love everything technical and electrical, programing and troubleshooting but i can't even begin to understand what just happened...
Sitting at my desk with my phone in my pocket and at about 15% battery life, i feel a short vibrate, then another and another. I look at my phone and its asking me all the first time setup questions... i skip through and all i see is a bunch of nothing except what's stock on the phone.
I've unlocked/rooted/flashed every stupid rom or hack i could find on every phone i've ever owned but ive NEVER done anything to this phone and ive never had anything like this happen... the last thing i was doing on the phone was making a call... before that i read my texts and before that i was using twitter...
Same software version as before, no strange behavior (aside from the obvious)...
any ideas?
Edit: Whatever happened it formated my SD card, i didn't even think that was possible.
Edit2: Well, that last discovery helped me figure it out.... Pattern unlock (to many tries wipes data).... FML, what a retarded feature to force someone into...
I feel your pain. Happened to me on day 1 of my 1 week trip to Germany so I didn't have access to any of my backups.
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My jaw is on the floor, i have no idea how this happened. I work IT for a living, i love everything technical and electrical, programing and troubleshooting but i can't even begin to understand what just happened...
Sitting at my desk with my phone in my pocket and at about 15% battery life, i feel a short vibrate, then another and another. I look at my phone and its asking me all the first time setup questions... i skip through and all i see is a bunch of nothing except what's stock on the phone.
I've unlocked/rooted/flashed every stupid rom or hack i could find on every phone i've ever owned but ive NEVER done anything to this phone and ive never had anything like this happen... the last thing i was doing on the phone was making a call... before that i read my texts and before that i was using twitter...
Same software version as before, no strange behavior (aside from the obvious)...
any ideas?
Edit: Whatever happened it formated my SD card, i didn't even think that was possible.
Edit2: Well, that last discovery helped me figure it out.... Pattern unlock.... FML, what a retarded feature to force someone into...
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Root and remove that "feature" it's a simple xml edit
dottat said:
Root and remove that "feature" it's a simple xml edit
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Yep, i figured this was perfect timing to unlock seeing as i had to reload my stuff anyway... just got done with sunshine (no firewater for me ), CWM recovery and GPE rom..
i didn't want to spend the $25 a couple months ago when i got the phone but now i'm literally shrieking like a school girl with all the cool things i'm doing/finding...
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Yep, i figured this was perfect timing to unlock seeing as i had to reload my stuff anyway... just got done with sunshine (no firewater for me ), CWM recovery and GPE rom..
i didn't want to spend the $25 a couple months ago when i got the phone but now i'm literally shrieking like a school girl with all the cool things i'm doing/finding...
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Between fixing this and the SD card permissions fix you have two perfectly valid reasons to root ☺
First off, if there's already a thread on this, I apologize. I was not able to locate it.
I have an RCA 7 Voyager II tab. I was able to root it, but was wondering if there's a custom ROM for it. Does anybody know of one? Or can an existing one be used (CM, VenomROM, etc.)?
Hi, how the hell did you root it, please please is it a rct6773w22b android 5.0, I lost so much time trying to root it, Thanks :crying::crying::crying:
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Hi, how the hell did you root it, please please is it a rct6773w22b android 5.0, I lost so much time trying to root it, Thanks :crying::crying::crying:
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I used KingoRoot to root it. You can find it along with the directions. Hope that helps.
www DOT kingoapp DOT com
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I used KingoRoot to root it. You can find it along with the directions. Hope that helps.
www DOT kingoapp DOT com
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Thanks, I tried it many times all the possible way and niet, I know Kingo is the best but not here lol, I will retry it !!!! :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Are you sure Kingo works now? I last tried to root my nephews Voyager II last September and ended up bricking the device.
Yea that happened to my RCA Voyager II... Now im scowering the internet looking for a way to unbrick it, if anyone knows how i would appreciate it.
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Yea that happened to my RCA Voyager II... Now im scowering the internet looking for a way to unbrick it, if anyone knows how i would appreciate it.
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I wish I could help you my friend. I was lucky to be able to use the return policy from where I bought it. Best of luck to you.
Voyager 2 tablet Root yet? (android 5.0?)
Is there anybody looking into getting this thing rooted?
To provide a minor update over a year since the last post, I was just messing with one of these stupid things the other day. Doesn't seem anything has changed.
I got it rooted with KingRoot APK version, but I didn't realize it at the time. See, the Kingroot app itself even claimed the root process didn't succeed once it finished running. I had tired of screwing with the thing by then so I sat it aside. My wife picked it up to mess with it and asked "I thought you said you couldn't root it?" "Yeah, it didn't work." "So why did the Superuser thing just pop up for permissions?" Oh. Okay, I guess it *did* work. Unfortunately, it randomly rebooted on her about five minutes later and came back up without root again. Oh well. I tried for the heck of it to use Kingoroot PC once after this but it failed. After that, I tried unlocking the bootloader via a simple "fastboot oem unlock" command. To my amazement, it worked with no code required. I verified that it was indeed reporting back to fastboot as unlocked and then sent a reboot command.
...This was, apparently, the wrong thing do. It's as bricked as they get.
So now we can say this much:
1). It is possible to unlock the bootloader of this troublesome-to-root bastard of a tablet. Surely this should make the rooting process much easier.
2). You have a more-likely-than-not risk of destroying it at the same time, putting this stupid tablet out of its misery once and for all.
Oh yeah, one other weird thing I found while I was poking around on this thing - there's a system app called AutoReboot hiding on here. I expected it to do exactly what it promised to do, and it did. A screen with some Chinese text pops up, a countdown from 10 begins, and the device reboots. Fair enough, I guess. What I didn't expect was that this app will load at startup from here til forever from now on once you've ran it. The good news is that I eventually noticed there's a quick chance to cancel during the countdown, and I *think* I had it finally stopped from coming back again, but still, what the hell, RCA? What logical, good reason could there be for this app being there? And why does unlocking the bootloader (which I remind you is not locked by any code that would prevent you from doing this) cause the thing to respond by hard-bricking on reboot? (Ok, technically it might not be *hard* bricked, I haven't messed with it enough since then to say really... but it sure acts like it at least).
In short, eff this stupid tablet.
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To provide a minor update over a year since the last post, I was just messing with one of these stupid things the other day. Doesn't seem anything has changed.
I got it rooted with KingRoot APK version, but I didn't realize it at the time. See, the Kingroot app itself even claimed the root process didn't succeed once it finished running. I had tired of screwing with the thing by then so I sat it aside. My wife picked it up to mess with it and asked "I thought you said you couldn't root it?" "Yeah, it didn't work." "So why did the Superuser thing just pop up for permissions?" Oh. Okay, I guess it *did* work. Unfortunately, it randomly rebooted on her about five minutes later and came back up without root again. Oh well. I tried for the heck of it to use Kingoroot PC once after this but it failed. After that, I tried unlocking the bootloader via a simple "fastboot oem unlock" command. To my amazement, it worked with no code required. I verified that it was indeed reporting back to fastboot as unlocked and then sent a reboot command.
...This was, apparently, the wrong thing do. It's as bricked as they get.
So now we can say this much:
1). It is possible to unlock the bootloader of this troublesome-to-root bastard of a tablet. Surely this should make the rooting process much easier.
2). You have a more-likely-than-not risk of destroying it at the same time, putting this stupid tablet out of its misery once and for all.
Oh yeah, one other weird thing I found while I was poking around on this thing - there's a system app called AutoReboot hiding on here. I expected it to do exactly what it promised to do, and it did. A screen with some Chinese text pops up, a countdown from 10 begins, and the device reboots. Fair enough, I guess. What I didn't expect was that this app will load at startup from here til forever from now on once you've ran it. The good news is that I eventually noticed there's a quick chance to cancel during the countdown, and I *think* I had it finally stopped from coming back again, but still, what the hell, RCA? What logical, good reason could there be for this app being there? And why does unlocking the bootloader (which I remind you is not locked by any code that would prevent you from doing this) cause the thing to respond by hard-bricking on reboot? (Ok, technically it might not be *hard* bricked, I haven't messed with it enough since then to say really... but it sure acts like it at least).
In short, eff this stupid tablet.
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I don't own this device, but if it has an unlockable bootloader like that, we can easily make a permanent root solution! Also, if it was bricked by unlocking bootloader (what happened, did it just not boot or something?) we can lock it again with fastboot oem lock. But hey, if it works to unlock it that easy, I'd like someone who can chat with me fast to pm me, I might be able to get something going. Preferably has skype for easy access.
Ok more specifically I'm pretty used to the stock android experience (modded of course) but I read about that audio issue and I'm pretty terrified of it because music and calls are the main things I need a phone for. I've been out of the modded android loop since CM10 so I don't really know present day standards or processes for unlocking/rooting let alone standards for ROMs etc. Anyone got any advice?
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Ok more specifically I'm pretty used to the stock android experience (modded of course) but I read about that audio issue and I'm pretty terrified of it because music and calls are the main things I need a phone for. I've been out of the modded android loop since CM10 so I don't really know present day standards or processes for unlocking/rooting let alone standards for ROMs etc. Anyone got any advice?
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just go to the guides subforum of a8 2018 and press on the thread that can help u flash twrp lol, all you gotta do is just follow the instructions word by word
WhenSuddenly said:
Ok more specifically I'm pretty used to the stock android experience (modded of course) but I read about that audio issue and I'm pretty terrified of it because music and calls are the main things I need a phone for. I've been out of the modded android loop since CM10 so I don't really know present day standards or processes for unlocking/rooting let alone standards for ROMs etc. Anyone got any advice?
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my words of advice would be to make sure that you need root before you root it. what i mean by that is think about what you stand to gain by rooting it vs the PITA it is to root this thing. Pay close attention to the 168 hour thing as its been a thorn in many a persons side and caused many a headache. Ive had dozens of android phones and all have been rooted with the exception of the HTC Rezound, which required the OMG PITA "wire trick" to root properly. These phones run very well as stock and dont have much bloatware, so rooting them is becoming less necessary. I got mine in july '18 and have been happy with its performance overall so far. Ive reflashed the stock tar.img a few times for varying reasons, and even rooted it. But after losing SPay capability with root, i flashed back to stock as the gains werent worth the losses to me. Also, SHealth is a task to get working after you trip knox btw.
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my words of advice would be to make sure that you need root before you root it. what i mean by that is think about what you stand to gain by rooting it vs the PITA it is to root this thing. Pay close attention to the 168 hour thing as its been a thorn in many a persons side and caused many a headache. Ive had dozens of android phones and all have been rooted with the exception of the HTC Rezound, which required the OMG PITA "wire trick" to root properly. These phones run very well as stock and dont have much bloatware, so rooting them is becoming less necessary. I got mine in july '18 and have been happy with its performance overall so far. Ive reflashed the stock tar.img a few times for varying reasons, and even rooted it. But after losing SPay capability with root, i flashed back to stock as the gains werent worth the losses to me. Also, SHealth is a task to get working after you trip knox btw.
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Yeah tbh I'm ok with the interface now and aside from making the volume buttons change tracks when you hold them down the only things id need root for is clearing out bloatware etc. I think I'll take your advice and not root it for now (until something breaks) but what is this 168 hour thing?
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Yeah tbh I'm ok with the interface now and aside from making the volume buttons change tracks when you hold them down the only things id need root for is clearing out bloatware etc. I think I'll take your advice and not root it for now (until something breaks) but what is this 168 hour thing?
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there has been a great deal of discussion about how to get the OEM unlock toggle to show up in the developer options, many suggest that its only obtainable by leaving the phone powered off for 168 hours and then rebooting, not connecting to any network (including cellular) and then enabling developer options and then the toggle should be there.
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there has been a great deal of discussion about how to get the OEM unlock toggle to show up in the developer options, many suggest that its only obtainable by leaving the phone powered off for 168 hours and then rebooting, not connecting to any network (including cellular) and then enabling developer options and then the toggle should be there.
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Your wrong your suppose to keep phone on for 168 hours no reboots then oem should show up again.
mchlbenner said:
Your wrong your suppose to keep phone on for 168 hours no reboots then oem should show up again.
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youre*
and youre correct, i said it backwards.
youdoofus said:
there has been a great deal of discussion about how to get the OEM unlock toggle to show up in the developer options, many suggest that its only obtainable by leaving the phone powered off for 168 hours and then rebooting, not connecting to any network (including cellular) and then enabling developer options and then the toggle should be there.
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So wait. My phone is showing the OEM unlock toggle and I can change it. Does that mean I can root? Or would trying to root then make me wait 168 hours? I never tried any custom stuff with it btw. Just bought and installed Lawnchair lol.
Amirk365 said:
So wait. My phone is showing the OEM unlock toggle and I can change it. Does that mean I can root? Or would trying to root then make me wait 168 hours? I never tried any custom stuff with it btw. Just bought and installed Lawnchair lol.
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Hit the toggle and it'll ask for your pw, then you can flash a custom recovery via Odin
Amirk365 said:
So wait. My phone is showing the OEM unlock toggle and I can change it. Does that mean I can root? Or would trying to root then make me wait 168 hours? I never tried any custom stuff with it btw. Just bought and installed Lawnchair lol.
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be careful with starting down the root rabbit hole tho. if you flash anything in download mode, youll trip the knox security counter and that is 100% irreversible without sending it to samsung. Root is cool and allows you to do stuff, but honestly ive not found too much reason to root this phone yet. Ive literally had over 20 android phones and i rooted and modded all of them (except the rezound, if you want to know why that one wasnt fully rooted, just google "rezound wire trick" and youll see) and this one just really doesnt need root IMO. Sure it would be nice to have a few root things, but its not worth the trade off of losing samsung pay so i can pay for stuff with my watch. That feature is just waaaay too valuable to me
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be careful with starting down the root rabbit hole tho. if you flash anything in download mode, youll trip the knox security counter and that is 100% irreversible without sending it to samsung. Root is cool and allows you to do stuff, but honestly ive not found too much reason to root this phone yet. Ive literally had over 20 android phones and i rooted and modded all of them (except the rezound, if you want to know why that one wasnt fully rooted, just google "rezound wire trick" and youll see) and this one just really doesnt need root IMO. Sure it would be nice to have a few root things, but its not worth the trade off of losing samsung pay so i can pay for stuff with my watch. That feature is just waaaay too valuable to me
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If his oem is showing and if he marks it and follow the directions he will be fine I have been rooted since day one of having it.
I never got locked out.
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If his oem is showing and if he marks it and follow the directions he will be fine I have been rooted since day one of having it.
I never got locked out.
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ill never trade my SPay on my watch for root
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be careful with starting down the root rabbit hole tho. if you flash anything in download mode, youll trip the knox security counter and that is 100% irreversible without sending it to samsung. Root is cool and allows you to do stuff, but honestly ive not found too much reason to root this phone yet. Ive literally had over 20 android phones and i rooted and modded all of them (except the rezound, if you want to know why that one wasnt fully rooted, just google "rezound wire trick" and youll see) and this one just really doesnt need root IMO. Sure it would be nice to have a few root things, but its not worth the trade off of losing samsung pay so i can pay for stuff with my watch. That feature is just waaaay too valuable to me
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Thanks for the advice,but this isn't my first rodeo with Samsung lol. I messed around with the Verizon S5 alot and was lucky to have the version able to unlock it's bootloader.
Amirk365 said:
Thanks for the advice,but this isn't my first rodeo with Samsung lol. I messed around with the Verizon S5 alot and was lucky to have the version able to unlock it's bootloader.
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np, the G900V was a major disappointment with its locked bootloader. i recall spending several hours bricking one and having to restore it with the stock tar.img file. total PITA
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np, the G900V was a major disappointment with its locked bootloader. i recall spending several hours bricking one and having to restore it with the stock tar.img file. total PITA
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Will you stop telling people that you will mess up phone if you try to root it.
If people follow directions they have nothing to worry about.
You where bootloop not bricked a brick device is usually a unfix able.
If is fine you what to keep Sam pay but your info you are telling is wrong.
I recently unroot my phone guess what Sam pay work fine.
Then root phone again no lock out and enable treble and flashed gsi image.
So their nothing wrong with rooting if you want to do that.
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Will you stop telling people that you will mess up phone if you try to root it.
If people follow directions they have nothing to worry about.
You where bootloop not bricked a brick device is usually a unfix able.
If is fine you what to keep Sam pay but your info you are telling is wrong.
I recently unroot my phone guess what Sam pay work fine.
Then root phone again no lock out and enable treble and flashed gsi image.
So their nothing wrong with rooting if you want to do that.
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dude, i dont think youre reading what im saying right. Ive never said that rooting your phone will mess it up. the stuff about the G900V is a DIFFERENT PHONE. FFS. This isnt my first rodeo rooting and modding. Hell, i even was writing mods back in the Evo and S3 days. Im refamiliarizing myself with some of this, but i havent ever said youd mess your phone up if you follow the root instructions. Ill even go as far as saying as long as you dont Odin flash the tar.img for a completely different phone, these things are virtually impossible to hard brick. And yes, a bootloop is referred to as a soft brick. But, it is important to know that if you do root your phone, it WILL make samsung health not work as it did when stock and there is NO WAY of bringing it back without swapping the motherboard
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np, the G900V was a major disappointment with its locked bootloader. i recall spending several hours bricking one and having to restore it with the stock tar.img file. total PITA
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Unlocking the bootloader was completely dependent on the type of EMMC chip that the G900V that you had was using. I got three of those and only one was able to unlock after the Marshmallow update.
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Unlocking the bootloader was completely dependent on the type of EMMC chip that the G900V that you had was using. I got three of those and only one was able to unlock after the Marshmallow update.
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the last tinkering i did with the G900V was several years ago and that was at the point when all hope was lost on the locked bootloader. I havent looked into it since as the G900's i had were G900P's which were FAR easier to work with. I did also root and ROM a couple G900VL's, but again was years ago
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the last tinkering i did with the G900V was several years ago and that was at the point when all hope was lost on the locked bootloader. I havent looked into it since as the G900's i had were G900P's which were FAR easier to work with. I did also root and ROM a couple G900VL's, but again was years ago
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Good times. Anyways I'm not rooting for now. Waiting for Pie and see how it goes.
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Good times. Anyways I'm not rooting for now. Waiting for Pie and see how it goes.
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good times, yeah LOL!!! major waste of time on those friggin G900V's is more like it yeah, i wouldnt root yet, keep the stock recovery so it automagically updates to pie in a few weeks and manually check for updates every so often to force its hand. Also sammobile.com posts them too if you want to force it on via Odin and trip knox. Anyways, if you get the update in the near future, let us know!