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I got my Triumph and it will not charge no matter where I have plugged it in or fiddled with the charger. It does not matter whether it is on or off. I have been using the wall charger that's included and I have tried USB through my computer. Before I go to the hassle of sending my triumph back I wanted to see if there is a solution. Thanks in advance.
The first one I got did this sometimes as well. I took it back and swapped it.
Jumpstart
My triumph would not even turn on strait out of the box. I had to "Jumpstart" the battery, here is a link on how to do it. thejosea.com/2011/02/jump-start-your-droid-when-no-wall.html (Sorry i cant post links yet, gonna have to copy paste)
You pretty much have to charge the battery by its self outside of the phone. Once you do this let it sit charging for about 20 minutes then try to charge it through the phone.
You should only have to do this once.
It seems like the batteries are not being shipped charged and they run "Dry".
You MIGHT want to try a different USB cable.
I'm using my Nook Color adapter(1A) and a generic USB cord which works fine, however one time I accidentally used my Optimus V cable and it would NOT charge while the MT was up and running, however it WOULD charge IF I powered down the MT...
I haven't even tried the cable that came with MT yet... nor have I tried charging via a USB port on my nb, but I imagine that would be REALLY sssslllloooowwwww....
I exchanged my device for a new one, and with my new phone, when plugged in, the lock screen no longer shows "Chargin" with the %. Any ideas how to bring it back?
It only shows that if you're on an AC charge. If you're on USB it won't.
I've tried on 2 different AC chargers and it still doesn't display
Same cord? The AC pins have to be shorted or it won't go into AC charge mode. I have a couple of USB cords that work fine for connections to the computer but will not go into AC mode (the USB cords that come with the Optimus are known for doing this on other phones, incidentally....)
It'll charge without AC mode being "engaged" but at the 500ma rate instead of the 1A rate, so it will take a lot longer.
the answer is simple.....due to crappy crappy design of micro usb the charge port actually comes un-soldered from the board and obviously it no longer will charge nor will usb work!!! now before you ramble on with how do i know i wondered why mine wouldn't worked i opened the phone and notice the micro usb pins were not attached anymore....i have sent this in to Motorola which gives you a 2 year warranty instead of virgin mobiles crap $5 a month insurence then you still have to pay like $100 to get a new phone!!! so i will post how everything goes so far i know the repair center is in McAllen TX and they give you a free 2day shipping label valued at $100 to send in the phone!
You might want to try plugging it into a wall (not pc) and leave it for 20 minutes. Mine ran completely dry one time and it wouldn't display nothing until it charged for a while. If you've already tried this then definitely take it back.
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the answer is simple.....due to crappy crappy design of micro usb the charge port actually comes un-soldered from the board and obviously it no longer will charge nor will usb work!!! now before you ramble on with how do i know i wondered why mine wouldn't worked i opened the phone and notice the micro usb pins were not attached anymore....i have sent this in to Motorola which gives you a 2 year warranty instead of virgin mobiles crap $5 a month insurence then you still have to pay like $100 to get a new phone!!! so i will post how everything goes so far i know the repair center is in McAllen TX and they give you a free 2day shipping label valued at $100 to send in the phone!
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*update* They are fixing my phone now and i should get it in 5-7 business days no problems they received the phone and started the repair
I had the same problem but different solution.
I too let my phone completely discharge to find that it would not indicate that it was charging or even power on with or without the battery being present, but I "jumped started" my phone. This is a weird technical solution that went as followed in its entirety, meaning, some of these steps might be pointless or useless but I did them and I now have a working resurrected MT in my hands that is charging. This solution is assuming that there is no problem with the micro USB soldering on the main board.
"Jump Starting"
1) Remove the back casing and your MT battery and place both to the side, but keep the battery close by for polarity reference.
2) Have another battery of the same 3.7v that is charged (disregarding mAh).
3) Now here is the fun part and pay CLOSE ATTENTION to POLARITY!!!
-Get two spare wires, preferably of different colors so you can tell the [+] from the [-].
-With the spare 3.7v battery you have, in what ever way you can, connect your spare wires to it, paying close attention to polarity.
-Now that you have your spare battery wired, CORRECTLY connect the wires to the inside connectors of your MT what ever way you can, paying close attention to polarity.
Being [+] connected to [+] and [-] connected to[-]
4) Boot your phone until you know you are at the home/lock screen. Then remove the wires from the MT battery connectors.
5) Use this same battery and connect it to your battery for about 30-60 seconds, paying close attention to polarity. This will give the battery some juice for the system to recognize.
6) Place the battery back in the phone without attempting to turn it on and return the back case to the closed position.
7) Now connect your MT to a powered micro USB cable and see if the red indicator charging light turns on.
-If so then great!
-If not then you may have some other problems
-If yes and no, as in the cable has to set a certain way for it to charge then just keep on reading for that fix as well.
"Loose Connection Fix"
This is how I fixed my loose micro USB cable and it worked for me, but I do not have soldering problems on my main board of my MT so proceed if you think this will help.
1) Your micro USB male side of the cable that plugs into your MT should look something like this (excuse the crude drawing of letters)
{the dots are empty space}
____________
\................... /
\UUUUUU/
2) Get a pair of needle nose pliers and SLIGHTLY pinch/squeeze the center of the male port closed so it looks like this
____...... ____
\.... \...... /.... /
\UUUUUU/
Except not that extremely bent inward, but you get the idea.
This will force the male tongue in the MT charging port to be forced onto the pins inside the micro USB cable for a better connection and thus fixing the loose connection problem
I hope this helps someone, it helped me save my $300 paper weight from actually being a paper weight.
Froxen said:
I too let my phone completely discharge to find that it would not indicate that it was charging or even power on with or without the battery being present, but I "jumped started" my phone. This is a weird technical solution that went as followed in its entirety, meaning, some of these steps might be pointless or useless but I did them and I now have a working resurrected MT in my hands that is charging. This solution is assuming that there is no problem with the micro USB soldering on the main board.
"Jump Starting"
1) Remove the back casing and your MT battery and place both to the side, but keep the battery close by for polarity reference.
2) Have another battery of the same 3.7v that is charged (disregarding mAh).
3) Now here is the fun part and pay CLOSE ATTENTION to POLARITY!!!
-Get two spare wires, preferably of different colors so you can tell the [+] from the [-].
-With the spare 3.7v battery you have, in what ever way you can, connect your spare wires to it, paying close attention to polarity.
-Now that you have your spare battery wired, CORRECTLY connect the wires to the inside connectors of your MT what ever way you can, paying close attention to polarity.
Being [+] connected to [+] and [-] connected to[-]
4) Boot your phone until you know you are at the home/lock screen. Then remove the wires from the MT battery connectors.
5) Use this same battery and connect it to your battery for about 30-60 seconds, paying close attention to polarity. This will give the battery some juice for the system to recognize.
6) Place the battery back in the phone without attempting to turn it on and return the back case to the closed position.
7) Now connect your MT to a powered micro USB cable and see if the red indicator charging light turns on.
-If so then great!
-If not then you may have some other problems
-If yes and no, as in the cable has to set a certain way for it to charge then just keep on reading for that fix as well.
"Loose Connection Fix"
This is how I fixed my loose micro USB cable and it worked for me, but I do not have soldering problems on my main board of my MT so proceed if you think this will help.
1) Your micro USB male side of the cable that plugs into your MT should look something like this (excuse the crude drawing of letters)
{the dots are empty space}
____________
\................... /
\UUUUUU/
2) Get a pair of needle nose pliers and SLIGHTLY pinch/squeeze the center of the male port closed so it looks like this
____...... ____
\.... \...... /.... /
\UUUUUU/
Except not that extremely bent inward, but you get the idea.
This will force the male tongue in the MT charging port to be forced onto the pins inside the micro USB cable for a better connection and thus fixing the loose connection problem
I hope this helps someone, it helped me save my $300 paper weight from actually being a paper weight.
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I let my battery die down and also did a battery memory reset, then the phone acted bricked.
Then I tried this to revive and it worked!
Thanks for the help here I did this but when I connected the batter to the phone nothing happened. I connected battery to battery let sit for about 90 sec put it in phone and plugged in and the red light is now on!
Thanks!
Well,
add my phone to the list. It started about 2 weeks ago when after completing charge, instead of maintaining trickle charge it just let battery drain. I woke up couple of times in the morning finding the phone's battery on it's last legs. Now it simply refuses to charge by anything but my car charger. Lucky for me (and I thought I would never say it in my life) I have a long commute to work and it allows me to recharge the phone while I enjoy typical traffic delights.
I am going to call Motorola and discuss my options with them. I hate doing this as my phone is long since rooted and running CM7, so I will probably have to revert to factory settings before sending it off and if they decide to exchange I would be running a chance of receiving one with bad GPS.
yes i've had this problem to i have to charge my phone on a Samsung charger no motorola charger will work on my phone.
Sorry, I'm somewhat new here.
I have a Motorola Triumph and it just stopped working. The general idea is that the Micro-USB port was shoved up into the device?
How do you go about contacting Motorola about sending it back to be repaired?
I have delt with this problem SO MUCH, have you tried my battery charging fix yet ? I have the link posted in this section called battery charging fix, Hope this helps you it sucks when your phone won't charge.
Well the problem is that it won't even turn on. I think the battery has some kind of charge but when I hit the power button, it vibrates like it's booting up then stays off.
I don't know that much about phones, but from what I can gather off Google and the various threads on XDA (Great site, by the way!) the general consensus is that it's the micro-usb port.
Granted, I may be wrong, which is a very real possibility. Heh.
Well 2 things, have you replaced your recovery with the clockwork recovery image ? If so try any means nessary to get into recovery, My old Triumph would NOT charge with any motorola charger, I belive this is a defect with the triumph. You might try a powermat of some kind to get enough power to get to recovery & do what my guide says to fix this most pain in the ass problem, Or get another battery & follow the guide. It's worth a shot anyway. otherwise you've got two options replace it or open it up, if you're gonna open it up then get a super fine sautering tip or file one down to needle size, this is how I do precision sautering on circut boards.
No, I had downloaded Clockwork with the intention of installing a 2.3 rom on it, but never got around to it. As for the charger, my Triumph charges with any micro-USB, from my old LG and Samsung chargers to the Motorola charger that came with it. It acts weird though when I plug it into a computer, saying it is connected to a computer, then that it's not, then that it is, then that it's not, repeatedly. I usually just end up turning it off so it won't do that.
I find it weird, though, that now when I try to charge it, the charging light up where the speaker is will not come on, as if it isn't charging. (And I don't think it is charging.)
I've also tried putting it into the "recovery mode". (Like I say, not too knowledgeable about phones yet. Learning experience. ) When I boot it up (into "recovery mode" or "regular" (?) mode) it just vibrates like it should then does nothing.
Edit: It finally did boot into the "recovery mode", but the touch button things at the bottom (menu, home, back, and search) don't do anything, and I cannot get into the menu to do a factory reset.
I don't think it's the battery now? I am more confused then I was when I started, and appreciate any and all help!
Ok, first a little background on this issue...
After having my S3 for about 13-14 months I started having charging issues. The charging port was very "loose" and I had to make sure my charger cable was in just right to get my phone to charge. This was annoying, however was out of warranty and didn't want to pay vzw for an insurance claim. This got worse, and eventually I noticed my phone would only charge with 1 specific usb cable, 1 specific wall charger, and 1 specific car charger.
Well, I finally called Samsung and explained the situation to them and they had me chip my phone to them and they would repair it, free of charge. When they had it, they replaced the charging port, the headphone jack, and the screen. I received the phone back after couple weeks, super excited, and immediately charged it up with the cable I had next to my bed. New charging port felt perfect, nice snug fit, etc... Well, after a few days i hooked it up with the original usb cable that came with the phone, nothing happened. So i started messing around and realized that the only usb cables that will charge my phone are Motorola brand cables! At least the 2 cables I have work, and not a single other cable I've tried works! This includes stock Samsung cable, many cheap 3rd party cables, other friend's S3 cables, none work. Also, I have this cheap car charger that is the type you plug a USB cable into that works, however any other car charger I've tried does not work either.
Also, when i say the cables won't charge my phone, it also won't connect the phone to a PC. They do absolutely nothing.
Does anyone have ANY idea why this is happening?!?! It was an issue before Samsung repaired my phone, they replaced the charging port, but I still have this issue!! I can send it back to Samsung for them to look at it again, however my backup phone, a Razr Maxx, just died also. Seems like the battery went dead and now I can't get it to charge, but that's another issue.
So, any ideas?!
JHibinger said:
Ok, first a little background on this issue...
After having my S3 for about 13-14 months I started having charging issues. The charging port was very "loose" and I had to make sure my charger cable was in just right to get my phone to charge. This was annoying, however was out of warranty and didn't want to pay vzw for an insurance claim. This got worse, and eventually I noticed my phone would only charge with 1 specific usb cable, 1 specific wall charger, and 1 specific car charger.
Well, I finally called Samsung and explained the situation to them and they had me chip my phone to them and they would repair it, free of charge. When they had it, they replaced the charging port, the headphone jack, and the screen. I received the phone back after couple weeks, super excited, and immediately charged it up with the cable I had next to my bed. New charging port felt perfect, nice snug fit, etc... Well, after a few days i hooked it up with the original usb cable that came with the phone, nothing happened. So i started messing around and realized that the only usb cables that will charge my phone are Motorola brand cables! At least the 2 cables I have work, and not a single other cable I've tried works! This includes stock Samsung cable, many cheap 3rd party cables, other friend's S3 cables, none work. Also, I have this cheap car charger that is the type you plug a USB cable into that works, however any other car charger I've tried does not work either.
Also, when i say the cables won't charge my phone, it also won't connect the phone to a PC. They do absolutely nothing.
Does anyone have ANY idea why this is happening?!?! It was an issue before Samsung repaired my phone, they replaced the charging port, but I still have this issue!! I can send it back to Samsung for them to look at it again, however my backup phone, a Razr Maxx, just died also. Seems like the battery went dead and now I can't get it to charge, but that's another issue.
So, any ideas?!
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What rom/kernal
It doesn't matter. It does this when it is totally stock and rooted. Right now I'm not rooted or anything because it looks like it may be going back to Samsung again.
JHibinger said:
It doesn't matter. It does this when it is totally stock and rooted. Right now I'm not rooted or anything because it looks like it may be going back to Samsung again.
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I think the smart charging circuit may be messed up
Really? How would that cause the phone to not work with any cable except a certain brand?? I'm just really curious and this is driving me insane!!
JHibinger said:
Really? How would that cause the phone to not work with any cable except a certain brand?? I'm just really curious and this is driving me insane!!
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I would say you are putting mechanical stress on the charging port. This could be from some misaligned or mis-made cable or somehow pressing or pulling the charge cable when its connected. I've never seen this reported by anyone else, but the mechanical connections are not indestructible. If it were a common symptom with 100 million S3s having been sold, there would be a firestorm of complaints.
I have a similar issue. I'm not sure if it's the device or the ROM (CM nightlies).
Certain cables force the screen to turn back on, which means I get negative charge because the screen burns more than the charger is capable of supplying. Other cables are fine. I'm still looking for the pattern, it's super annoying and causes me to have to turn my phone off completely at times so as not to lose my battery altogether. I'm still trying to solve this, any help would be appreciated.
rgrossie said:
I have a similar issue. I'm not sure if it's the device or the ROM (CM nightlies).
Certain cables force the screen to turn back on, which means I get negative charge because the screen burns more than the charger is capable of supplying. Other cables are fine. I'm still looking for the pattern, it's super annoying and causes me to have to turn my phone off completely at times so as not to lose my battery altogether. I'm still trying to solve this, any help would be appreciated.
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Further info- it's not the cable, it's the converter at the end. I think it has to do with amperage of the charger- if I use the stock samsung one I'm good, it's putting out 1.0A. If I use others that are fewer amps (like 700 mA) it's unpredictable. I suspect a kernel thing, I might download different kernels to play with it.
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Further info- it's not the cable, it's the converter at the end. I think it has to do with amperage of the charger- if I use the stock samsung one I'm good, it's putting out 1.0A. If I use others that are fewer amps (like 700 mA) it's unpredictable. I suspect a kernel thing, I might download different kernels to play with it.
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Always use chargers that is 1 A - 2A the circuit controls most of the charging regulating amps and voltage
Yes, I agree about using good chargers, but my phone wasn't always this way. It used to charge with anything, but no longer.
I enabled fast charge on Imosyen's lean kernel. That might have made a difference, but I'm not positive yet.
RESOLVED (Kinda)
Hello!
My VZW i535 just started giving me issues. I should preface this by saying that it is rooted and I do have a CM11 nightly flashed (will try to get specific version when I can, which may be awhile). I've had this installed for probably over a month now without problems. I also understand that charging issues are very common but nothing I could find is the same as my issue.
I noticed my phone was overheating (as it has frequently since purchased) with about 30% battery today, so I plugged it in after doing a reboot and all seemed well. About 15 minutes later I hear it beeping, giving the signal the battery is below 15%. It was actually at 5%, and the bottom of the device was extremely hot, as well as the end of the Samsung cable included with it, so I unplugged it and found that the metal part of the cable was mostly black and there was a strong electrical burning smell.
I tried two other USB cables, both in the Samsung AC adapter, and in the USB ports of several devices. With any cable in the adapter, it would say "charging" but would not actually charge, but with the computer USB ports it wouldn't say or do anything at all.
The battery is at 2% now and the device is powered off so that I can quickly do something if need be, but I can't do much. I ordered some replacement batteries with a charger, due for arrival by Friday 1/3, since I assume that the damage to the USB interface is permanent.
Is it likely that this was caused by the software? Or is the charger faulty? Any advice, in general? The warranty has expired, but I do have insurance on it if for some reason it would be better to just get a new device. I can't restore it to stock until I get replacement batteries; is that what you recommend?
Thanks so much!
Sounds like a hardware i ssue. Look inside ur usb port on the device to make sure it did not get burn. Wen ur battery comes in put it on and try to charge it with new cable. If it doesn't charge then it will ur USB port. I know some 4.4 roms give wonky bat stats but it shouldn't burn out ur cable or usb port at least i think it shouldn't. If u believe is a software issues flash a different version of the rom a previous build or a whole different rom. But with 2% battery i don't think u would be able to. Good luck
After playing around with it a bit, the USB interface on my phone definitely appears to have taken damage from the heat. It only charges when powered off, must be completely still, and charges relatively slowly.
What I would recommend for people with a similar problem is to do as I have done and purchase extra batteries with an external battery charger like the set I got for around $17 on Amazon.
My only guess for what caused this is that something faulted in the cable or AC adapter and caused a severe overheat issue. If anyone has anything else to say about that, please let me know so I have a better idea of what happened. I will mark as resolved soon.
Does anyone else have this kind of trouble? Wireless charging just stopped working. I've tried with two chargers and no effect. Chargers can't be broken because they both charge my older Nexus 4 just fine. USB charging works just fine but I've kind of used to wireless and it drives me crazy since it doesn't work. I haven't dropped the phone or anything, I even replaced the back cover with new genuine OEM back cover since I thought that maybe the coils in back have been damaged or something.
Could it be software issue or what?
I had this same thing happen, although with mine, it was after a (about 2 foot) fall. It could be software, but doubtful, since you can verify that by simply turning your phone off (not in standby, but completely off), and seeing if the battery indicator comes up when you start charging. Regardless, Google will ask you to do a hard reset before they'll replace it to ensure that it's not software-related.
As I said, mine was replaced under warranty for this very issue, so Google does count this as a replaceable issue (provided you bought it from the Play Store). However, there is one thing to try first:
Draw an imaginary line across the bottom of the letters in "nexus" printed on the back cover, and follow that line until you're even with the flash. Right there, there's a clip that most people miss when replacing the cover. That clip MUST be securely fastened, or wireless charging won't work (the purpose of the clip is to keep the wireless charging pins engaged). Press down at that spot to make sure that the clip is engaged.
Barring that, I'd contact Google for replacement (or your carrier, if you bought it from there).
After several re-openings, it apparently finally worked. Those four little pins were somehow bit too low so that connection did last only few seconds. I pulled them up little bit with tweezers, push that copper thing on top of the battery all the way to bottom and firmly put the back cover on its place and now it's working again. I was so close sending this thing back to Google...
Somehow it still feels that it doesn't quite charge it with full power. It apparenly takes much more time than using AC charger. This wasn't the case when this problem didn't occure because it charged wirelessly very quickly.
So I noticed the wireless QI receivers have started becoming literally paper thin lately.
And with this girls teardown, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dweww9_RF2E#t=224
I think it looks like you could remove the thin plastic over the battery, and fit a QI receiver there.
Thoughts?
Shadowdancer123 said:
So I noticed the wireless QI receivers have started becoming literally paper thin lately.
And with this girls teardown, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dweww9_RF2E#t=224
I think it looks like you could remove the thin plastic over the battery, and fit a QI receiver there.
Thoughts?
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we wouldn't be able to remove that plastic piece because it hold the battery, but it is stil possible. i already did recon on some places to solder in a wireless charger.
Legacystar said:
we wouldn't be able to remove that plastic piece because it hold the battery, but it is stil possible. i already did recon on some places to solder in a wireless charger.
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Curious, but I'm looking at the flat cable that just lies there, under the M-logo. It doesn't appear to have any PCB at the end?
I wonder if they were thinking about adding a QI coil there, but decided it was too expensive?
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Curious, but I'm looking at the flat cable that just lies there, under the M-logo. It doesn't appear to have any PCB at the end?
I wonder if they were thinking about adding a QI coil there, but decided it was too expensive?
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That's my theory since the nexus 6 has wireless and they are the same chassis essentially . or it was for a fingerprint scanner they abandoned. Once we see a nexus 6 teardown we will have a better idea if we can do it.
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Once we see a nexus 6 teardown we will have a better idea if we can do it.
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Been waiting for that...
Shadowdancer123 said:
Curious, but I'm looking at the flat cable that just lies there, under the M-logo. It doesn't appear to have any PCB at the end?
I wonder if they were thinking about adding a QI coil there, but decided it was too expensive?
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Could have sworn I read somewhere that between they cable and a teardown of the software showing code for a fingerprint scanner, the original idea was to have the scanner. I could be wrong though.
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Could have sworn I read somewhere that between they cable and a teardown of the software showing code for a fingerprint scanner, the original idea was to have the scanner. I could be wrong though.
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Let's hope you're wrong then.
It would be really cool to have wireless charging, shame so few manufacturers add this.
The amount of stuff needed to make the coils on the receiving end is pretty limited, I could absolutely accept buying the transmitter separately, (like the turbo charger is now)
But I suspect the patent royalties are expensive, patents sure don't benefit users..
Wireless charging
Anyone able to confirm if this is possible after the nexus 6 tearnever down?
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Anyone able to confirm if this is possible after the nexus 6 tearnever down?
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Looks like the nexus 6 has a different config then the moto x so as far as a plug and play solution, no. I have located 2 contact locations where we could solder in a qi coil. I'm just trying to work up the courage to try it lol
Here is a related question: without modding the phone itself on the 2013 and 2014 model I cant get one of the QI receivers to work. This is the one for sale on eBay / amazon / newegg with a micro usb end to plug into the micro usb port. It literally works with every other micro usb device i own including a Samsung bluetooth headset, several phones and some other stuff i cant think of at the moment... On the moto x 2013 and 14 I literally see no charge and see it actively loose charge over time with this device plugged in.
It may be tricky with the moto x. There are some negative and some positive reviews here for example: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B00MN3RR7Q/s=sd/ref=mw_dp_cr
There are also some reviews saying they needed to restart the device once while on the charger: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/B00H7FJX7M/R2YPDLOU1BD4QE/ref=mw_dp_cr?cursor=2&sort=rd
You can find more of those comments on the internet. Could you try that, and if it works clarify if you need to restart it every time you want to charge or every time you connect something else?
Here is another link for the original moto x: http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/2gskxw/original_moto_x_wireless_charging_mod_qi/
Edit: you may need a screen lock, e.g. the pattern lock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596469
An unrooted Moto G needs to be screen locked (I use the pattern lock type) or it will refuse to charge due to the missing pins. You can unlock the screen while it is charging as long as you don't lift it from the qi charger. (tested on 4.3 and 4.4.2, DE and FR firmware)
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Legacystar said:
Looks like the nexus 6 has a different config then the moto x so as far as a plug and play solution, no. I have located 2 contact locations where we could solder in a qi coil. I'm just trying to work up the courage to try it lol
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Go for it lol! Take some nice pics if you do. You'd be my hero.
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Well chaps, bad news. I don't think this is going to be possible. I spent 6 hours today trying various solder points. Couldn't get any of them to actually charge the battery. Seems to be some sort of system configuration thats interfering with how its detecting .
Legacystar said:
Well chaps, bad news. I don't think this is going to be possible. I spent 6 hours today trying various solder points. Couldn't get any of them to actually charge the battery. Seems to be some sort of system configuration thats interfering with how its detecting .
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Did you look at /sys/module/msm_otg/parameters/floated_charger_enable? It might not be enabled. Here's a similar thread for the Moto G:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2688276 (see the update at the top)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601628 (thread for the app, not sure it works on X2 but you can check manually through ADB for the above /sys path).
As far as I know, wireless charging won't work without a pattern lock or having that option set. My Moto X won't be here until next week so I can't do any testing until then.
romracer said:
Did you look at /sys/module/msm_otg/parameters/floated_charger_enable? It might not be enabled. Here's a similar thread for the Moto G:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2688276 (see the update at the top)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601628 (thread for the app, not sure it works on X2 but you can check manually through ADB for the above /sys path).
As far as I know, wireless charging won't work without a pattern lock or having that option set. My Moto X won't be here until next week so I can't do any testing until then.
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I tried pattern lock, didn't help. Wireless charging does not require a lock, my girlfriend has a droid maxx and wireless works without it.
As far as the module check, I don't have root on Verizon so I wouldn't be able to test it.
Legacystar said:
I tried pattern lock, didn't help. Wireless charging does not require a lock, my girlfriend has a droid maxx and wireless works without it.
As far as the module check, I don't have root on Verizon so I wouldn't be able to test it.
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You are correct about wireless charging in general. I think the reason the pattern lock is suggested is because the wireless mod (even without internally mounting it) only provides 2 wires on the USB connector. Something about only having 2 wires, and not the data pins, is why the locking is suggested.
No worries on the module, just something I had seen while investigating. I don't know if the Maxx supported wireless charging out of the box, but it may have the flag enabled by default (that flag seems common among many Moto devices).
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and I'll really miss wireless charging, hence my questions to you
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You are correct about wireless charging in general. I think the reason the pattern lock is suggested is because the wireless mod (even without internally mounting it) only provides 2 wires on the USB connector. Something about only having 2 wires, and not the data pins, is why the locking is suggested.
No worries on the module, just something I had seen while investigating. I don't know if the Maxx supported wireless charging out of the box, but it may have the flag enabled by default (that flag seems common among many Moto devices).
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and I'll really miss wireless charging, hence my questions to you
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The Maxx has it built in from moto, same internals as the moto x essentially. If we get root I could look at the module thing. I was lucky that I had access to a spare moto x main board so I didn't have to solder on mine. That won't be the case in the future.
I'm going to post all the points I tried so maybe someone can figure this out. I was able to get it to show charging but only right after reboot and it would stop once I took it off and replaced it. I have to emphasize it showed charging but never actually charged the battery, it would show charging in battery stats bit not in the status bar. I also use battery monitor widget to check the current and it never showed positive charge current. Once I was able to get it to details at as a USB charge, only happened once, still didn't charge though.
This all makes me think there is something screwy going on.
Legacystar said:
The Maxx has it built in from moto, same internals as the moto x essentially. If we get root I could look at the module thing. I was lucky that I had access to a spare moto x main board so I didn't have to solder on mine. That won't be the case in the future.
I'm going to post all the points I tried so maybe someone can figure this out. I was able to get it to show charging but only right after reboot and it would stop once I took it off and replaced it. I have to emphasize it showed charging but never actually charged the battery, it would show charging in battery stats bit not in the status bar. I also use battery monitor widget to check the current and it never showed positive charge current. Once I was able to get it to details at as a USB charge, only happened once, still didn't charge though.
This all makes me think there is something screwy going on.
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I ordered a Pure Edition (Cyber Monday deal was a great one) so if nothing else I'll have root to poke around. Pictures of where you tried would definitely be helpful. I think I saw some from you in another thread, but all in one place would make searching easier
A 5V near the USB port would be ideal because then we'd know its likely feeding into the battery or charge circuit. 5V elsewhere on the board may not be wired to the battery. Looking at the photos in that Moto G thread may give you an idea on where to poke around with a multimeter.
The charging after a reboot, and until you picked it up, sounds like maybe you did have it at one point. That whole "until you pick it up" is another thing mentioned by many in those Moto G threads.
What wireless charging receiver did you use (not your base station)? The one I ordered says "up to 1000mAh" but I had seen some at 500 or 650. A lower output rating may not be enough to charge the battery at all. One way to test this would be a very low output wall charger (one that puts out 500mAh for example) and see if the X shows charging when connected to that.
On a related note, how hard is it to disassemble the X? Some of the teardowns look like it could be a pain.
romracer said:
I ordered a Pure Edition (Cyber Monday deal was a great one) so if nothing else I'll have root to poke around. Pictures of where you tried would definitely be helpful. I think I saw some from you in another thread, but all in one place would make searching easier
A 5V near the USB port would be ideal because then we'd know its likely feeding into the battery or charge circuit. 5V elsewhere on the board may not be wired to the battery. Looking at the photos in that Moto G thread may give you an idea on where to poke around with a multimeter.
The charging after a reboot, and until you picked it up, sounds like maybe you did have it at one point. That whole "until you pick it up" is another thing mentioned by many in those Moto G threads.
What wireless charging receiver did you use (not your base station)? The one I ordered says "up to 1000mAh" but I had seen some at 500 or 650. A lower output rating may not be enough to charge the battery at all. One way to test this would be a very low output wall charger (one that puts out 500mAh for example) and see if the X shows charging when connected to that.
On a related note, how hard is it to disassemble the X? Some of the teardowns look like it could be a pain.
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i've attache da picture of the points i used and the results are as follows.
1. shows 5v when plugged in. when wireless coil is attached to it, will power the phone up without the battery connected (doesn't boot, just shows a battery on screen)
2. pretty much exactly the same as spot 1
3. shows 5volts but doesn't power the phone
4. shows 5v but doesn't power the phone
5. you can't see it in the picture because the rubber cover for the usb port is on but there is a diode right behind the usb port. this one is the only port i was able to get it to say usb charging ONCE. other then that, acts the same as 1 and 2.
again i have to emphasize that even though they show charging initially, they never actually charge the battery.
I'm using a galaxy s3 qi insert 700ma. i think there is a mislabeling on some qi pads saying 1000ma but not considering the 30% loss in inductive charging. even ones with 1000 on them tend to charge around 650ma. some label including the loss.
As far as teardown it's not too complicated to get the back off, lots of adhesive so be careful to not bend the back cover. i have leather so that was a particular hassle as i didn't want creases in the leather. after that there are 17 screws to remove. i've included a picture of the ones you need to remove. the ones around the silver ring on the "moto" logo don't need to be removed along with the silver screw for the buttons.
after you remove the screws and disconnect the buttons and battery from the board the back battery plate comes off in one piece. one of the particularly hard parts about testing points is you can't turn the phone on because the power button is part of the battery plate. also when you put the battery plate back on and you have wires running to contact points it won't fit because there is a speaker "box" that sections off that circuitry. i combated this by using copper tape to essentially make my own tiny custom circuit pathways leading out of that box where i then could attach wires and run them up through the hole that the battery connector goes.
THIS IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART!
i'm going to write up a tear down guide for this phone. what section do you guys think i should post it in?