I have an s22 Ultra from T-Mobile that is unlocked and on Verizon. Both should have amazing coverage where I live but it seems I'm getting a lot of 4g LTE and very much less 5g than I was while I was on t-mobile. Do the the Verizon and T-Mobile variant have different bands?
Nickdroid86 said:
I have an s22 Ultra from T-Mobile that is unlocked and on Verizon. Both should have amazing coverage where I live but it seems I'm getting a lot of 4g LTE and very much less 5g than I was while I was on t-mobile. Do the the Verizon and T-Mobile variant have different bands?
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Yes, they have different bands & VZW's 5G coverage isn't anywhere close to T-Mobile's, so, that doesn't surprise me that you aren't on 5G most of the time on VZW.
https://www.droid-life.com/2022/03/...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
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Yes, they have different bands & VZW's 5G coverage isn't anywhere close to T-Mobile's, so, that doesn't surprise me that you aren't on 5G most of the time on VZW.
https://www.droid-life.com/2022/03/...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
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But my question is, are the phones themselves identical on the inside as far as the bands they're equipped with go?
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But my question is, are the phones themselves identical on the inside as far as the bands they're equipped with go?
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Yeah, they're identical.
Edit, taking a deeper dive into that, BRB....
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Yeah, they're identical.
Edit, taking a deeper dive into that, BRB....
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@Nickdroid86
It appears that they have the same hardware.
However, & I'm not sure about this, but, if you're still running T-Mobile firmware, you might want to switch to VZW's firmware, or, run the US Unlocked firmware.
Again, I'm not sure if the firmware is going to make a difference.
FWIW, I have a T-Mobile S22 Ultra on US Unlocked firmware (XAA) & I'm getting every band available in my area (on T-Mobile's network).
Hopefully, someone else in a similar situation as yours w/an S22 Ultra will chime in.
Good point. I did flash the unlocked 908u1 firmware, that was listed under TMobile though. Back when I wanted to get rid of the bloat and splash screen.
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Good point. I did flash the unlocked 908u1 firmware, that was listed under TMobile though. Back when I wanted to get rid of the bloat and splash screen.
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I looked on this site for possible hardware (antenna) differences & it seems to indicate all US Models are identical in that regard:
https://phonedb.net/ (formerly PDADB.net & IIRC,the site is affiliated/owned/etc... by XDA).
I know there are other mfgs that have carrier-specific (VZW) models,to accommodate their flavor of 5G,but,it doesn't seem to be the case w/the S22 Ultra (appears all US Bands are supported).
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I looked on this site for possible hardware (antenna) differences & it seems to indicate all US Models are identical in that regard:
https://phonedb.net/ (formerly PDADB.net &IIRC,the site is affiliated/owned/etc... by XDA).
I know there are other mfgs that have carrier-specific (VZW) models,to accommodate their flavor of 5G,but,it doesn't seem to be the case w/the S22 Ultra (appears all US Bands are supported).
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Cool thanks for that info.
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First unfortunately it's not just one version for all the carriers as some had suggested. The GSM providers phones do not support CDMA. The T-Mobile version is the only one with the new band 66 LTE. The AT&T version is the only one that supports band 30 (the fastest band in my area)
SEE FULL SPECS by following the links
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-s8-sprint
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-s-8-at-t
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-s8-t-mobile
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/galaxy-s8-verizon
So the Verizon model is missing at&t frequencies?
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So the Verizon model is missing at&t frequencies?
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Seems it had them all. I'm curious as to why the att version is. Band 17 if att themselves use the 17 in many places. It's actually one of the main bands of att and they don't have it showing
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osmosizzz said:
Seems it had them all. I'm curious as to why the att version is. Band 17 if att themselves use the 17 in many places. It's actually one of the main bands of att and they don't have it showing
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Band 12 includes band 17. If the phone truly doesn't support band 17, then I suspect that AT&T advertises the band as 12 and 17 to support it.
Guys check this eBay listing, there's something funny about it, 232298704354
Selling cheaper, one unit, faster than official shipping.
The seller feed back is off from picture to details of feedback and also the items sold are entirely different than phones.
Think it's a hacked account?
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So what it seems like to me (im not including sprint nor did I even pay attention to it) is that the Verizon model should work great with both AT&T and Tmobile if one wanted to switch. Looks like the verizon model would be the closes to the factory unlocked model, even more so if they really dont have any Verizon branding on them. But, what is 3G TD-SCDMA that is on the GSM models?
It appears that Samsung's website is showing the same unlocked model for all carriers (G950U*), although I'm not sure why the LTE bands supported are listed (slightly) differently for each carrier. Confusingly, this is a different model than the phones being sold directly by each carrier (G950P for Sprint, G950A for AT&T, G950V for Verizon, G950T for T-Mobile). You can see that that LTE bands supported by those models are different that the G950U as well (the carrier-specific versions seem to have a subset of the LTE bands supported by the unlocked version). I was not able to locate a spec sheet for the G950P.
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It appears that Samsung's website is showing the same unlocked model for all carriers (G950U*), although I'm not sure why the LTE bands supported are listed differently for each carrier. Confusingly, this is a different model than the phones being sold directly by each carrier (G950P for Sprint, G950A for AT&T, G950V for Verizon, G950T for T-Mobile). You can see that that LTE bands supported by those models are different that the G950U as well. I was not able to locate a spec sheet for the G950P.
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What was wrong with the links to each carrier i provided plus the pictures i uploaded?
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What was wrong with the links to each carrier i provided plus the pictures i uploaded?
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The links you provided are all to the Samsung website. The Samsung website does not have the same models that the carriers themselves are selling, as I tried to explain above.
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The links you provided are all to the Samsung website. The Samsung website does not have the same models that the carriers themselves are selling, as I tried to explain above.
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So you want me to believe the 4 carrier versions Samsungs selling are not the same phones that the 4 carriers themselves are selling?
The phones I ordered from samsung are not the same as I would have gotten from the carriers directly? I'm sorry but i think it's you that is confused.
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So you want me to believe the 4 carrier versions Samsungs selling are not the same phones that the 4 carriers themselves are selling?
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The evidence indicates that they are likely different... but you can believe whatever you want.
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The evidence indicates that they are likely different... but you can believe whatever you want.
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Thanks but the links you provided prove absolutely nothing that you said
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It appears that Samsung's website is showing the same unlocked model for all carriers (G950U*), although I'm not sure why the LTE bands supported are listed (slightly) differently for each carrier. Confusingly, this is a different model than the phones being sold directly by each carrier (G950P for Sprint, G950A for AT&T, G950V for Verizon, G950T for T-Mobile). You can see that that LTE bands supported by those models are different that the G950U as well (the carrier-specific versions seem to have a subset of the LTE bands supported by the unlocked version). I was not able to locate a spec sheet for the G950P.
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I don't see where the carriers list their model numbers anywhere...
Actually, here's other preorders from carriers:
AT&T (Says U)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/galaxy-s8-s8-waiting-t3581697/post71861643
Sprint (Also says U)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/galaxy-s8-s8-waiting-t3581697/post71876304
It's the same model phone but with different FW. It is possible that specific carrier models only support their own network bands thru FW. In the past, the Samsung would actually have different radio and antenna hardware in the phones.
Given the proper FW I believe the s8 series will function identically no matter which carrier model is used provided the SIM is unlocked.
My 2 cents
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It's the same model phone but with different FW. It is possible that specific carrier models only support their own network bands thru FW. In the past, the Samsung would actually have different radio and antenna hardware in the phones.
Given the proper FW I believe the s8 series will function identically no matter which carrier model is used provided the SIM is unlocked.
My 2 cents
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That's exactly how the US S7 variants were, only difference was the firmware installed. I'm hoping for the same.
Loooook long story short, I returned My US note 20 ultra once i found out it couldn’t be rooted, Ive been rooting phones for over 8 years now i cant stop now lol anyway I ordered The hong kong N980 edition and im just wondering how is the 4g signal in the US Especially considering that theres only gonna be only 3 bands available for my carrier.
4g is finebut 5g is non existent lol
Maybe because I'm on fi
N9860*
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4g is finebut 5g is non existent lol
Maybe because I'm on fi
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Exactly the same experience.
Though I read elsewhere on this forum that 5g doesn't work on this device outside HK regardless of whether you are in a location with the right 5G bands.
I actually had an aTT 5g version but need dual sim. Got 5G everywhere (more like filling in dead zones gaps where I used to have no signal). It was great. If carriers enable esim like apple devices do on their networks I will switch back immediately, as the carrier models have 2 imeis
The other disadvantage is that these seem to get the slowest updates.
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4g is finebut 5g is non existent lol
Maybe because I'm on fi
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What state you from fam? If you dont mind me asking. And yeah i know about 5g we have none of the 5g bands in the Us, but its fine im cool with 4g as long as its fast
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4g is finebut 5g is non existent lol
Maybe because I'm on fi
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Exactly the same experience.
Though I read elsewhere on this forum that 5g doesn't work on this device outside HK regardless of whether you are in a location with the right 5G bands.
I actually had an aTT 5g version but need dual sim. Got 5G everywhere (more like filling in dead zones gaps where I used to have no signal). It was great. If carriers enable esim like apple devices do on their networks I will switch back immediately, as the carrier models have 2 imeis
The other disadvantage is that these seem to get the slowest updates.
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Yeah, The hongkong variant 5g Wont work in the us because Hongkong doesnt share the same 5g band The us do. But it does work in The uk and some parts of europe and ofcourse in hongkong. 4G is all i need personally but is the 4g fast for you?
Yes. But it could be that city centers are emptier because of covid
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Yeah, The hongkong variant 5g Wont work in the us because Hongkong doesnt share the same 5g band The us do. But it does work in The uk and some parts of europe and ofcourse in hongkong. 4G is all i need personally but is the 4g fast for you?
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5g does not work in the UK on the HK device, it did but not now.
Theres a big thread on it here.
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5g does not work in the UK on the HK device, it did but not now.
Theres a big thread on it here.
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you need to downgrade to TGM version of the firmware using Odin and 5G will work again from the SIM2 slot only!
I thought they have a way to root US version now. Just cost 150 buck.
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I thought they have a way to root US version now. Just cost 150 buck.
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That is correct
I've asked this question before and I can't find anything.
Can anybody confirm the 0/B/E versions to work on TMobile or att or mvnos of them?
If someone wants to be so kindid appreciate it. Really wanting to buy one for root.
if you use AT&T, don't buy any international models because they will block your sim. You may call them to unlock it but the sim will be blocked again after a couple days. The reason is AT&T has a list of supported models and international phones are not on their list.
T-Mobile doesn't have such a horrible thing. So yeah, it works.
Oh, and I am using 908E/DS on T-Mobile network.
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if you use AT&T, don't buy any international models because they will block your sim. You may call them to unlock it but the sim will be blocked again after a couple days. The reason is AT&T has a list of supported models and international phones are not on their list.
T-Mobile doesn't have such a horrible thing. So yeah, it works.
Oh, and I am using 908E/DS on T-Mobile network.
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So when I purchase my S22 Ultra. I can use it on T-Mobile no issues? I assume it can be unlocked rooted and install custom roms.
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So when I purchase my S22 Ultra. I can use it on T-Mobile no issues? I assume it can be unlocked rooted and install custom roms.
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That’s what I’ve done and been using till now. Bought the 908E on Amazon, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. No custom rom for it yet other than tha Magisk rom by dr.ketan. I’ve always been an AT&T customer in so many years. They refused to work with me to make my phone work on their network so I switch to T-mobile.
I’m using the S22 Ultra 908E on T-mobile to write this right now. I don’t see any issue. If there is one, the phone is the issue.
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That’s what I’ve done and been using till now. Bought the 908E on Amazon, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. No custom rom for it yet other than tha Magisk rom by dr.ketan. I’ve always been an AT&T customer in so many years. They refused to work with me to make my phone work on their network so I switch to T-mobile.
I’m using the S22 Ultra 908E on T-mobile to write this right now. I don’t see any issue. If there is one, the phone is the issue.
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Carrier aggregation and 5g all working well for you on t-mobile?
The missing of band 71 if using on TMO, is a big loss. I wouldn't bother.
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Carrier aggregation and 5g all working well for you on t-mobile?
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No. I don't expect an international phone to be fully working on a US carrier network such as TMO or ATT due to missing bands. If I have to choose between slower connection and the ability to root, I'd choose the latter one. I chose TMO because it works, white ATT not working at all.
There are wifi networks available almost everywhere I go nowadays. In case there is none, usually when I was driving, 4G/LTE always available and that's good enough.
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No. I don't expect an international phone to be fully working on a US carrier network such as TMO or ATT due to missing bands. If I have to choose between slower connection and the ability to root, I'd choose the latter one. I chose TMO because it works, white ATT not working at all.
There are wifi networks available almost everywhere I go nowadays. In case there is none, usually when I was driving, 4G/LTE always available and that's good enough.
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So to confirm, no signal at all for att/cricket?
What about h20wireless? Redpocket mobile?
What site to use to check compatibility? I'll take slower speeds
To confirm:
1. AT&T blocks your sim right away. Your phone turns into a small tablet. That's it. Nothing you can do about it. I don't bother with smaller companies. I only go for the big boys.
2. T-Mobile will give you slower speed and freedom of root. This comes from my experience. Very little chance I need to use my plan's data. I can't tell the speed is slower at all. As far as carrier's features, I don't use any of them, but I think you can still have them if you change it to proper CSC.
Google search your model then you will find what bands your model support. Then Google search your choice of carrier to see what bands they have. Google is your friend.
Not just slower speed. Theres some areas that band 71 would be required to even get service at all in rural areas. Like just 5 min from my house if you have T-Mobile and your phone doesnt have band 71 no service.
hyelton said:
Not just slower speed. Theres some areas that band 71 would be required to even get service at all in rural areas. Like just 5 min from my house if you have T-Mobile and your phone doesnt have band 71 no service.
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This site is what I used and it looks like the version I want to get will suffice. But what do you think?
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Will Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
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This site is what I used and it looks like the version I want to get will suffice. But what do you think?
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All depends on area. It's still missing band 71 and N71 5G. I personally couldn't as it would make my phone useless in areas I frequent
hyelton said:
All depends on area. It's still missing band 71 and N71 5G. I personally couldn't as it would make my phone useless in areas I frequent
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But you could get the 4G LTE tho at least right? I have a 5G phone and i only get LTE speeds which is fine but the carrier doesn't offer 5G.
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But you could get the 4G LTE tho at least right? I have a 5G phone and i only get LTE speeds which is fine but the carrier doesn't offer 5G.
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No. Band 71 is an LTE band on TMobile.
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No. Band 71 is an LTE band on TMobile.
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Ohh ok.
hyelton said:
Not just slower speed. Theres some areas that band 71 would be required to even get service at all in rural areas. Like just 5 min from my house if you have T-Mobile and your phone doesnt have band 71 no service.
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In the end, as @hyelton just said, it all depends on your area, your luck and how you would use your phone... There is no definite answer to the op's question until he figures it out himself. It works for me and I am happy with what I got but that may not apply to everyone else... If the op decides to roll the dice for a chance to get a phone that he can have total freedom over it he can go for it. Otherwise, just buy the one on Samsung website ending with U models and have all of his worries put away. Honestly, I didn't think about any of that when I placed my order.
My unlocked 908U1 on t-mobile work perfectly, supported band25 with 130-180mbps speeds on LTE.
ps: 5G is totally disabled as it switching every 5 seconds between 4G\5G networks
malikin said:
My unlocked 908U1 on t-mobile work perfectly, supported band25 with 130-180mbps speeds on LTE.
ps: 5G is totally disabled as it switching every 5 seconds between 4G\5G networks
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My OP was based on the international versions because I absolutely have to have root. I have not owned a phone that I could not have root capabilities in over 10 years.
I don't care so much about 5G I just want to have a phone that functions on a US carrier from overseas. Maybe it got lost in translation but I just want to know what carriers people have and if anybody has the carriers that I mentioned with confirmation or denial of service.
Specifically the carriers on most questioned about are H2O wireless and red pocket. I'm not very Google friendly and so I'm not familiar with the bands I'm used to just buying a phone and it working as intended for my purposes.
^^^ You're overthinking it. Just pull up the bandwidths for the carrier you're looking to utilize and go from there. As mentioned you're better served by going for one of the major carriers and maybe their prepaid services. Remember major carriers prioritize their post paid plans first for their optimum network traffic followed by their own respective prepaid plans and finally the MVNOs. I would stay away from the MVNOs in your scenario if you're importing a handset not configured for the U.S to begin it and degrading it further by using an MVNO.
Hi, I'll be visiting the US in about 2 weeks and will be getting a prepaid sim for about 6 weeks during my stay there. In the past 5G in the US was not supported as the international variant of the galaxy series was an exynos modem. However this year with the snapdragon modem will there be a difference?
Has anyone tried to bring a global snapdragon version of the s22 ultra, specifically the S908E/DS to the US and gotten 5G to work? I am thinking of either using AT&T or Google Fi. If you have a better recommendation, I'd love to hear it. Or if it won't work in the US, if someone could clarify why, that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for all the help!
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gav83collins said:
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I see, thanks. So I see some of the bands are supported for 5G with Verizon/Tmobile/AT&T/ etc. Does that mean 5G will partially work, or for that provider to work all of the bands the provider uses must be available?
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I see, thanks. So I see some of the bands are supported for 5G with Verizon/Tmobile/AT&T/ etc. Does that mean 5G will partially work, or for that provider to work all of the bands the provider uses must be available?
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you can narrow that search down to provider, but you would be best researching the area you will be visiting and which network provider has the best coverage, different carriers use a variety of different bands
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you can narrow that search down to provider, but you would be best researching the area you will be visiting and which network provider has the best coverage, different carriers use a variety of different bands
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Yeah I narrowed it by provider, and as I mentioned the phone has most of the networks, but no mmwave and missing 1 or 2 5G bands, but still has 3-6 bands depending on the provider.
eyeatoma said:
Yeah I narrowed it by provider, and as I mentioned the phone has most of the networks, but no mmwave and missing 1 or 2 5G bands, but still has 3-6 bands depending on the provider.
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its not the phone missing the band, as such, its just bands are split between devices so as to keep the networks from being overloaded on a single band
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its not the phone missing the band, as such, its just bands are split between devices so as to keep the networks from being overloaded on a single band
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Gotcha. In the past I've looked at the 5G coverage map, and pinpointed my location. It says that the area is covered for 5G. At&T's map does not say what bands are covering that area though, it just says 5G. Is there somewhere else you mean I should go?
If it's just there, as I mentioned the s21 ultra that I had last year on the exynos modem didn't work. According to the site you shared, the s22 snapdragon international version has the same bands. So you think it's likely that it won't be supported either, or should I be looking somewhere else?
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Gotcha. In the past I've looked at the 5G coverage map, and pinpointed my location. It says that the area is covered for 5G. At&T's map does not say what bands are covering that area though, it just says 5G. Is there somewhere else you mean I should go?
If it's just there, as I mentioned the s21 ultra that I had last year on the exynos modem didn't work. According to the site you shared, the s22 snapdragon international version has the same bands. So you think it's likely that it won't be supported either, or should I be looking somewhere els
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it doesnt sound like it, but its possible that your carrier maybe or have upgraded its 5g roll out its best to compare current/latest checks from your carrier and manufacturer as the dates for other sites, like the link i shared may not be current
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it doesnt sound like it, but its possible that your carrier maybe or have upgraded its 5g roll out its best to compare current/latest checks from your carrier and manufacturer as the dates for other sites, like the link i shared may not be current
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Yeah, I hope there have been some changes. Thanks for the help man, cheers!
I am looking for an S22 ultra with an unlockable bootloader(root) that works with 5g in the US (t-mobile).
Does one exist? I don't care if it's snapdragon or Exynos, but I can't seem to find a definitive answer.
Seems rather expensive to just keep buying and hoping.
Is there a specific country or model these come from?
Any help is appreciated!
Check with your carrier to see if they are still supporting International devices. I know At&t will not support certain devices anymore. So I would check first before buying one
butchieboy said:
Check with your carrier to see if they are still supporting International devices. I know At&t will not support certain devices anymore. So I would check first before buying one
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T-mobile doesn't care as long as the bands are matching
zeroktal said:
I am looking for an S22 ultra with an unlockable bootloader(root) that works with 5g in the US (t-mobile).
Does one exist? I don't care if it's snapdragon or Exynos, but I can't seem to find a definitive answer.
Seems rather expensive to just keep buying and hoping.
Is there a specific country or model these come from?
Any help is appreciated!
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None of US versions' bootloaders are unlockable. The 908E model is unlockable.
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None of US versions' bootloaders are unlockable. The 908E model is unlockable.
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Excellent, does it support 5g in the states?
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Excellent, does it support 5g in the states?
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