Type-C USB charger that's powered by a type-C USB charger? - General Questions and Answers

I have a spare 65W laptop charger (USB PD with type-C connector) at work and as I'd like to sometimes charge two or three devices, I've been looking for a type-C charger with two or three outputs that could also take power from male USB type-C connector. Output needs are modest, nominal maximum would be 25W + 10W PD for my personal and work phones, a possible third device would be something low power, earphones or smartwatch.
Haven't found anything so far. Too radical? DIY ideas welcome too.

There are a plethora of USB-C PD chargers available on Amazon. Most have 2 ports. What exactly do you mean by "male" USB-C connector? All USB type C cables have female ends; the male connectors are on the devices themselves.
Most earbuds/smartwatches aren't fast charging capable, so you should be able to use a regular 2 amp USB port.
Would this work for you? Brand is questionable, I don't particularly trust off brand electronics on Amazon, but Anker's chargers all have 2 USB-C ports.

Hm, I thought male is universal for plug. Wikipedia seems to agree, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C for terminology.
To restate, I'm looking for a charger with two or three type-C outputs, at least two of them PD. And power in from type-C too. Not mains. I can try to draw a diagram if it's still unclear.

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USB Type-C -vs- USB 3.0/3.1 -vs- USB 2.0 || Concerning Nexus 5X & 6P

Hi all.
There has been a lot of confusion on the Type-C port on the Nexus devices, all of the different USB specs, how it all relates to charging using USB Type-C devices, and what kind of data speeds you can get from Type-C devices. I did a fair bit of fact finding, and thought I'd consolidate everything I learned into one topic. For now, this is kind of a "living document" in that I am constantly updating the OP to consolidate knowledge. I'm not going to post everything you could ever know about USB specs here, but have provided the links! I am going to try to keep it focused on items as they relate to the new Nexus phones. As always, if you find this helpful, I'd appreciate the thanks.
I feel the state of USB-C cables and charging devices has been fleshed out well enough, and as such, I'm no longer updating this thread.
News:
Good news for consumers! Amazon bans non-compliant USB Type-C cables.
Resources:
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung
Reviewed cables: https://plus.google.com/collection/s0Inv
USB Type C Explained: https://plus.google.com/collection/0Vdov
USB Type C News: https://plus.google.com/collection/EKnov
http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/ (Official specifications.)
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...clear-up-confusion-about-all-these-usb-specs/
http://www.cnet.com/news/usb-type-c-one-cable-to-connect-them-all/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_Type-C
ACTUAL TESTING: http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere&hl=en
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63614861&postcount=91
What rate will my Nexus charge at with other devices?
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When you connect your Nexus to a host, the devices must negotiate which charging rates can be used.
Type C hosts can negotiate with Type C devices using a specific wire in the cable known as the Configuration Channel - aka, the CC wire.
If you are using a Type-A adaptor or cable, the cable must identify itself as a Legacy USB connection (Type-C being converted to Type-A) using a pull-up resistor on the CC wire, grounded to the vBus wire. This is because the CC pin does not exist on Type-A ports. The Nexus will see the resistor, know it is on a legacy port, and it will then perform power negotiation using the USB BC2.1 protocol on the USB 2.0 wires in the cable. If the host is not BC2.1 capable, it will draw default USB current. (See page 149, table 4-12 for order of precedence.)
USB Type-C ports and chargers will provide 5V at 3A (15W) - true fast charging.
USB Type-A ports and chargers using USB BC2.1 should provide a max of 5V at 1.5A (7.5W).
Standard USB 3.0 can provide 5V @ 0.9A (4.5W)
USB 2.0 defaults to 5V @ 0.5A (2.5W).
What this means is that when your phone negotiates power with the host (your charger or computer), whatever current level they mutually agree upon is what your phone will attempt to draw. If you connect to a USB 2.0 port on your computer, a very old port which does not support the BC 2.1 protocol, then the most you'll be drawing is 0.5A. If you connect to a dedicated charging device which supports BC 2.1, it should draw up to 1.5A. Charging rates depend on this negotiation. Out of specification cables do not allow this negotiation to occur correctly. This may lead to faster charging, but you also risk exceeding the capabilities of your charger which may be dangerous.
As you can see, there is a big difference between 15 watts for Type-C fast charging and 2.5 watts for USB 2. Furthermore, please be aware that the phone will pull less current as the battery charges. A Nexus at 80% battery will pull less current than a Nexus at 20% battery.
In any regard, consider USB Type A to be the weak link in charging your Nexus.
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What charger and cable will work with my new Nexus, and will it support fast charging?
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My suggestion would be to make the move to Type-C car and wall chargers. You will eliminate the chance of using out of specification Type-A cables, and ensure you are always fast charging. Type-C will soon be the de facto interface for USB, so why not future proof yourself now.
If you have to use Type-A adaptors and cables, understand that there will be limitations and concerns to be aware of. Out of specification cables being the primary issue, which is explained below. Further, your charging rates will be half (or less) than what Type-C is capable of.
Table 2-1 shows all supported power specs for Type-C charging. Please understand that Type-A ports/cables will only support up to the BC 2.1 charging level of 1.5A. If it goes beyond this, your cable may not be compliant with USB specifications.
Hi. I'm an engineer at Google who has worked on USB Type-C on the Pixel and Nexus projects.
The reason that the Google chargers and cables are capable of 5V 3A support is because not only the cables but the port on the other end is certified for the higher 3A ceiling. You will notice that the cable that came with your Nexus 5X or 6P has USB Type C on both ends.
This ensures that not only the cable, but the connectors and the charging circuitry on the other side of the cable can support 3A before the phone starts to charge.
When you have a legacy cable like this one, the connector on the other side is a USB Type-A connector, which can be plugged into any USB port built since 1997, for example your ancient Pentium II PC may have a USB port that this cable could be plugged into.
NONE of those USB Type-A ports are rated to support 3A, so many of the USB Type-A to Type-C cables available on Amazon that claim they are rated at 3A and configure the identifier resistor to tell the phone to charge at 3A are not in compliance and could do damage to your charger, hub, or PC if you try to charge at 3A.
When you have a legacy cable like this, 2.4A, which is negotiated over a BC1.2 protocol like CDP or DCP, is appropriate over the Type-A connector. Any cable that you buy that claims 3A support I would be extremely wary of plugging into any of your hubs, PCs, or dedicated chargers.
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By the way, the maximum current of 1.5A is defined by the BC1.2 specification for CDP and DCP, but in practice, a range of other current values are possible using Apple's proprietary protocol or other protocols that bump up the defacto maximum current with a Type A connector on one end up to 2.4A, as long as the charger and the device both support that current limit.
However, keep in mind that there are 3 different termination possibilities. If you have the USB Type-C Specification 1.1, take a look at section 4.11.1, and at Table 4-13.
You'll notice that DFP Advertisement lists "Default USB Power" "1.5A @ 5V" and "3.0A @ 5V". It's important to read note 1. If you are making a legacy USB cable that has Type-C plug on one end, and a Type A plug on the other or a Type-B receptacle, you must use the "Default USB Power" termination, and NOT the "1.5A" one. Default USB power defers to BC 1.2 spec for current negotiation, so that such a cable that is attached to a basic 500mA SDP port should only draw 500mA, for example. Make sure to use a 56 kΩ pullup!
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As referenced in the quote, Table 4-13:
What about QuickCharge 2.0/3.0 chargers!? My Nexus has a Qualcomm chip, isn't it compatible?
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No. Google has stated that it is not implemented in the new Nexus devices.
QuickCharge works by increasing voltage and amperage to charge quickly. The USB Type-C standard only works this way in USB PD modes, otherwise voltage never varies from 5V. This means that QuickCharge 2.0/3.0 is completely different from USB Type-C charging methods.
But my 2.4A rated Type-A charger works, and my phone says it is Fast Charging. What's the deal?
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Your Nexus may report as fast charging if the Type-A cable you use is not compliant with USB specs.
Threads on this forum have confirmed that the phone will pull 3A (or about 2990mA) from the stock charger. These results were verified using apps such as Ampere. When using 3rd party equipment (non-OEM cables and chargers), I would suggest using an application such as Ampere to ensure that you are not exceeding the maximum rating of the charger or cable. Doing so can be dangerous! It will also verify exactly how much current your phone is pulling to charge - information I've found helpful if for no other reason than to satisfy my own curiosity.
If you are unsure if your cable is compliant, you can test it using the methods found here: http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...usb-type-c-for-nexus-5x-6p-compatibility.html
So, how should you approach charging and connecting your Nexus to other devices?
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The same way you would any other device - plug it into the best thing you have available.
For connecting to computers, use the best port you have available. Type-C to Type-C > USB 3.x to Type-C > USB 2 to Type-C.
For chargers, try to match OEM specs: 5 volts at 3 amps output using a Type C connector.
If you have to use an adapter (Type-A to Type-C), Make sure you use compliant cables!
What data connection speeds will I get on my Nexus using Type-C?
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If you want to dig deep into this, look at the "USB Type-C Specification Release 1.1.pdf" doc from USB.org, it defines on page 19 the types of plugs and cables for Type-C, including the USB 2.0 Type-C port. Starting at page 57 it defines all of the wires/pins for the different cables. Comparing table 3-10 to 3-11, you can see that all of the SDP (shielded differential pair) signal pins/wires are missing in the USB 2.0 Type-C connections. These are your high speed data connection wires. The Vbus, Vconn, cc, GND wires are all still present to support Type-C power delivery.
So, in other words, there are USB 2.0 Type-C ports, and USB 3.0 ports. For devices which don't require up to 100 watts of power, or won't use up to 10GB/s transfer speeds, the USB-C 2.0 port may commonly be used. The Nexus 5X & 6P fall into this category. What connection speeds are you going to get with the Nexus? USB 2.0 speeds.
Full Featured USB Type-C Cable:
USB 2.0 Type-C to Type-A cable:
If I left any glaring omissions from this, please follow up. I'd love to have all the info we can get.
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I wanted to put in this addition to the op. Thanks to @aaron_huber for putting this information up.
Aaron said:
A wire is a wire, but in this case the magic is in the charger, the device, AND THE CABLE. From the USB-C Wikipedia page:
Full-featured USB Type-C cables are active, electronically marked cables that contain a chip with an ID function based on the configuration data channel and vendor-defined messages (VDMs) from the USB Power Delivery 2.0 specification. USB Type-C devices also support power currents of 1.5 A and 3.0 A over the 5 V power bus in addition to baseline 900 mA; devices can either negotiate increased USB current through the configuration line, or they can support the full Power Delivery specification using both BMC-coded configuration line and legacy BFSK-coded VBUS line.
The 6P does not support the full PD spec per Google, but it does use the "configuration line" which is an extra wire in the USB-C cable hooked up to an extra pin in the phone/charger to talk to the charger and negotiate extra current. If you don't have a USB-C cable with the extra pins/wires plugged into a USB-C charger on the other end that also has the extra pins to do the negotiation, then the phone will fall back to a lower current because the spec requires it. If you plug it into a USB-A charger or use a USB-A to USB-C cable then all you get are four wires - the "configuration line" to do the negotiation doesn't exist.​
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* Type-C capabilities exceeds previous USB Type-A 3.1 / 2.0 specifications:
** 2 way power transfer
** Universal plug type (reversible plug)
** Much high transfer speeds (10GB/s)
** Much higher charging capabilities (Up to [email protected] = 100W via USB PD)
** Alternate data modes for devices (Display port / Audio)
Known Type-C capabilities for Nexus 5x & 6P:
+ USB 2.0 Data transfer speeds
+ Full fast charging through USB Type-C ports or specifically designed 5v/3a capable Type-C chargers only
- Not Qualcomm QuickCharge compatible (may draw more current for charging than a standard USB port though, see below)
- No HDMI out (It is not type-c alternate mode capable.)
- Not USB-PD capable
Thanks all!
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Thank you!
Are 3.1 Type C cables backward compatible with 2.0 type C devices? I ask because if they are wouldn't it make sense for people to buy USB 3.1 Type C cables for future proofing vs 2.0?
I am in the market for a long cable and am confused as to which of the cables below to chose.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...able&qid=1444414379&ref_=sr_1_59&s=pc&sr=1-59
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...ME5bDiL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160,160_
toyanucci said:
Are 3.1 Type C cables backward compatible with 2.0 type C devices? I ask because if they are wouldn't it make sense for people to buy USB 3.1 Type C cables for future proofing vs 2.0?
I am in the market for a long cable and am confused as to which of the cables below to chose.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...able&qid=1444414379&ref_=sr_1_59&s=pc&sr=1-59
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...ME5bDiL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160,160_
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USB type c is just the physical connector it has nothing to do with the usb 2.0 or 3.0 so you might as well by the fastest ones
What we do need to worry about is whether or not the cable itself supports charging at 3A 5v
Looking at the two, it appears that the Cable Matters product is a cable designed to connect a computer with Type-C port to a peripherals with USB 2.0 Type-C ports. (Like the Nexus 6p.) The maximum data speeds for this would be USB 2.0 speeds. Looks like a very nicely constructed cable - look at the connection ends, and polished metal. If all you were doing is connecting smart phones to your laptop, this is the type of product I would buy.
The J&D cable appears to be a full-feature type-c cable, and should support every supported type-c data rate. I'm not in love with the picture of the product though. Doesn't look quite as nice as the Cable Matters product. If you wanted to connect two devices with full 10GB/s connectivity, this would be the type of cable I would get.
It is my opinion that the two products are good examples of a well made USB 2.0 Type-C cable and a cheaply made full-feature Type-C cable. The full feature cables have to include more pins/wires, and are thus more expensive to produce.
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USB type c is just the physical connector it has nothing to do with the usb 2.0 or 3.0 so you might as well by the fastest ones
What we do need to worry about is whether or not the cable itself supports charging at 3A 5v
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Technically incorrect, but essentially right.
Assuming both cables adhere to standards, the Cable Matters USB 2.0 Type-C cable is (most likely) missing the data pins & wires needed to transfer at the rated Type-C 10GB/s speeds; however, it should still have all of the power pins and wires to charge at 5V 3A. The J&D cable, presumably being a full-feature cable, should support full Type-C power (100W) and data (10GB/s) speeds, and will also charge a Nexus at 5V 3A.
Elnrik said:
Technically incorrect, but essentially right.
Assuming both cables adhere to standards, the Cable Matters USB 2.0 Type-C cable is (most likely) missing the data pins & wires needed to transfer at the rated Type-C 10GB/s speeds; however, it should still have all of the power pins and wires to charge at 5A 3A. The J&D cable, presumably being a full-feature cable, should support full Type-C power (100W) and data (10GB/s) speeds, and will also charge a Nexus at 5V 3A.
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So for just charging it would make sense to get the better constructed cable based on your observations?
At this point, it's more about the cable you use than the charger. Using a backwards 3.0/3.1 compatible C to A cable will get you the same speeds as a standard C to C cable in USB use. The chargers coming standard with the phone are C to charger, so Google seems to be indicating separate charging and USB use here. However, compatible untethered chargers are available in both the Google stores and elsewhere. Just make sure if you're not buying the Google charger, you get one with the right specs.
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At this point, it's more about the cable you use than the charger. Using a backwards 3.0/3.1 compatible C to A cable will get you the same speeds as a standard C to C cable in USB use. The chargers coming standard with the phone are C to charger, so Google seems to be indicating separate charging and USB use here. However, compatible untethered chargers are available in both the Google stores and elsewhere. Just make sure if you're not buying the Google charger, you get one with the right specs.
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Yh, I;m still waiting for charging bricks with the correct specs but would just get the 6.6 ft cable from now.
Elnrik said:
Worst case would be it sends 12V at 3A (36W) to your phone and your Nexus dies in a exploding lithium maelstrom of fiery chaos.
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Leave it to Android to steal more features from the iPhone....
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So, if I read your post correctly, (very good post btw), if I were to buy a charger for work, I should try to find a USB-c to USB-c cable (5V/3A), and a USB-c wall plug, because the USB-c standard is what gets you the 15W? Using a USB-c to USB-a cable, even if it was rated for 3A, would max out at 10W?
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At this point, it's more about the cable you use than the charger.
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This is a bit misleading, and while I see what your point is, I urge caution using such general statements. A one amp charger with a Type-A port, a computer's USB 2 port, a USB 3.1 port, and a Type-C port connected to Type-C adaptors will all produce different charging rates for attached USB Type-C devices.
toyanucci said:
So for just charging it would make sense to get the better constructed cable based on your observations?
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I'm the type who thinks it's better to get the better constructed everything. So I'd look for a "USB 3.1" compatible C to C cable that was built well.
Elnrik said:
This is a bit misleading, and while I see what your point is, I urge caution using such general statements. A one amp charger with a Type-A port, a computer's USB 2 port, a USB 3.1 port, and a Type-C port connected to Type-C adaptors will all produce different charging rates for attached USB Type-C devices.
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True, but I was talking about USB transfer speeds, not USB charging speeds, since Google seems to be indicating separate charging and USB connectivity use with these phones, as evidenced by them including separate chargers and cables with them. Actually, only the 6P has both, the 5X only has the tethered charger.
heleos said:
So, if I read your post correctly, (very good post btw), if I were to buy a charger for work, I should try to find a USB-c to USB-c cable (5V/3A), and a USB-c wall plug, because the USB-c standard is what gets you the 15W? Using a USB-c to USB-a cable, even if it was rated for 3A, would max out at 10W?
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Yes, exactly.
Edit: According to what I've read, anyway. There might be something about 3.1 Type A ports that I'm not aware of which will allow 15W power. I know the 3.1 Type A port has extra pins. Just haven't been able to find in the 3.1 spec sheet a 100% absolutely for sure explanation either way. The Type-C specs pretty clearly spell out power states though, so I'm going to continue going by that. See attachment.
Second Edit: No, it would max out at 15 watts. The current I in amps (A) is equal to the power P in watts (W) divided by the voltage V in volts (V):
I = P / V.
3.0 Amps = 15 Watts / 5 Volts.
Or just buy a hard wired type-c charger like the one on the play store.
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_charger
It won't power 100w, but I'm sure someone makes one that will.
Elnrik said:
Or just buy a hard wired type-c charger like the one on the play store.
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_charger
It won't power 100w, but I'm sure someone makes one that will.
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It's currently sold out. They also have a 60W version with a 12' cable but it's $59.
Ouch that's a bit pricey!
heleos said:
So, if I read your post correctly, (very good post btw), if I were to buy a charger for work, I should try to find a USB-c to USB-c cable (5V/3A), and a USB-c wall plug, because the USB-c standard is what gets you the 15W? Using a USB-c to USB-a cable, even if it was rated for 3A, would max out at 10W?
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Why not just get the 15W charger Google sells?
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seezar said:
It's currently sold out. They also have a 60W version with a 12' cable but it's $59.
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Ooh man.. Good thing I loaded two of them into my pre-order. Almost everything I pre-ordered is sold out.

Dual port USB-A and USB-C wall charger?

Has anyone found a dual port wall charger with the USB-A at 2.4A and the USB-C port at 3A? So many companies are trying to make multi-port chargers with 4+ ports with mediocre current outputs. I'm looking for a simple 2 port charger with one of each port that has the max current output for each port.

[Review 1/3] Choetech 10400mah USB Type-C Power Bank

Disclaimer: I was given a discount on this item in exchange for a fair and unbiased review.
Choetech 10400mah Type-C/QC 2.0 Power Bank
Choetech 10400mah Type-C Power Bank
Overview:
There seems be a lot of confusion surround the USB Type-C standard and Qualcomm’s proprietary Quick Charger 2.0/3.0 lately. This battery pack offers both standards, but it only offers Type-C fast charging when you’re supplying power to the battery itself not your phone. The battery has 4 ports, a small footprint, and an overall nice look to it which will be discussed further below.
Packaging:
The Choetech battery comes in a brown branded box covered in a white sleeve showing the appropriate product information. Inside you will find the power bank, some instructions and a USB Type-A to MicroUSB cable. (the provided cable can charge either the power bank or your MicroUSB device)
Box:
Inside:
Charging:
When it comes to charging there are many ‘standards’ out there currently, but only one is correct when it comes to a USB Type-C port. The USB Type-C port on the power bank should only charge at the listed 5V/3A as listed; however, I found that it will use Quick Charge 2.0 over a A-C cable to charge the battery pack which is technically incorrect as noted in the USB standard section 4.8.2 which as summarized by Benson Leung:
The difference is that Qualcomm's solution is very proprietary, and it takes over the D+/D- (usb data) lines for good, so that Type-A port can't be used to communicate to your PC at the same time you fast charge.
USB Type-C doesn't have that restriction. You can have a hub with a 3A charging port that also hooks up all the data lines as the negotiation is separate from D+/D-.
When the USB-IF got to specifying Type-C, at the same time, considered higher voltages and much more dynamic power requirements as well. That is when the USB Power Delivery was introduced as well. Power Delivery will be able to handle much higher voltages (up to 20V) and higher currents (up to 5A) in a non-proprietary way.
This section of the Type-C specification 4.8.2 calls out chargers and devices that want to use a proprietary charging method and restricts them specifically from modifying Vbus (which is what QC does to get to 9V and 12V), and from altering roles from source to sink
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The power bank doesn’t state that it uses QC 2.0/3.0 over the Type-C port, but rather over the MicroUSB port which is interesting. I tested the power bank using a Power Partners 30W QC 2.0 charger, and a Tronsmart Dual Port 36W QC 2.0 charger; both produced the same result over a Choetech Type A-C cable. The power bank would draw 9V from the charger at 0.6A (the battery pack was showing 4 dots i.e. ~100%, but it still pulled more power from the charge implying that it wasn’t completely charged). I don’t know if this was an intentional move or not because the charging information on the battery pack doesn’t accurately reflect what it’s really doing.
Now, back to the other ports offered on the power bank. Each USB Type-A port outputs a different rate; one port is a QC 2.0 port while the other charges at 5V/1A. I tested both ports with A-C and A-MicroUSB cables to verify the output via a USB multi-meter. All 3 of the other ports (1 input, 2 output) deliver what’s listed which is good. I am disappointed to see a USB Type-C port only as an input port rather than an input/output which is essential if you want to rapid charge a phone such as the Nexus 6P/5X. The Type-A port will only provide 1.5A maximum for a A-C cable as it should by the USB standard. I tested this using a Choetech A-C cable, and the stock Google A-C cable that came with my Nexus 6P.
USB Port 1 A-C Output:
USB Port 2 A-C Output:
Charging via MicroUSB with the Tronsmart 36W charger:
Charging via Choetech A-C cable with the Tronsmart 36W charger:
Build & Design:
The overall design of the battery is nice, and features an anodized black aluminum shell with chamfered edges. There are 4 indicator lights that tell you the approximate % left in the battery pack next to the power button on one side. All 4 of the ports are located at one end for convenience which is very standard. This battery pack has identical dimensions to my silver Aukey power bank which isn’t a bad thing. The size is small enough to carry around in a bag without taking up a vast amount of space.
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From left to right: Aukey 12000mah, Choetech 10400mah, Aukey 10000mah
From top to bottom: Aukey 10000mah, Choetech 10400mah, Aukey 12000mah
Summary:
There are a few discrepancies with this particular battery pack including the lack of a Type-C output, and QC 2.0 over a Type A-C cable. Other than those two issues the battery pack is great, and will work just fine for anyone looking for a small powerful power bank. I hope Choetech explains why the battery is using QC 2.0 over the Type C port, and potentially decides to make a unit with a Type-C output as well.
Not sure why they bothered going with type c which only supplies fast charging to the battery but not the phone? Anyway I think it's too pricey. I have 10,000mah which I bought for around $14 and is working great. Thanks for your in depth review. Very helpful!
badboy47 said:
Not sure why they bothered going with type c which only supplies fast charging to the battery but not the phone? Anyway I think it's too pricey. I have 10,000mah which I bought for around $14 and is working great. Thanks for your in depth review. Very helpful!
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That was the general consensus from people which is why they are making a new version with a Type-C input/output from what I was told. Choetech is going to send me one to review, so you can look forward to that once I receive word on when it so be released. I still don't have an official answer on why the Type-C port is using QC 2.0 over a A-C cable when its not supposed to, but when I do I'll add a note to the OP. I had the Ravpower 20800mah battery pack with a C in/out, but it different from horrible efficiency after a weeks worth of usage leading me to return it. I'm draining the battery now so I can test the Type-C input port from a lower % which should allow QC 2.0 to kick into 12V mode.
Pilz said:
That was the general consensus from people which is why they are making a new version with a Type-C input/output from what I was told. Choetech is going to send me one to review, so you can look forward to that once I receive word on when it so be released. I still don't have an official answer on why the Type-C port is using QC 2.0 over a A-C cable when its not supposed to, but when I do I'll add a note to the OP. I had the Ravpower 20800mah battery pack with a C in/out, but it different from horrible efficiency after a weeks worth of usage leading me to return it. I'm draining the battery now so I can test the Type-C input port from a lower % which should allow QC 2.0 to kick into 12V mode.
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In that case; I look forward to their new case. I travel a lot so I am looking out for a decent type C portable charger with in and out. Thanks again!
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In that case; I look forward to their new case. I travel a lot so I am looking out for a decent type C portable charger with in and out. Thanks again!
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I heard back from the Choetech representative that I've been on touch with lately. She stated they have a bunch of new Type-C products in the pipeline without elaborating on what besides a power bank. I will post updates in the OP as I receive them. I would really like to see a 2 port Type-C power bank thanks slim (long/narrow) with a 5-6000mah capacity for my backpack. A dual port Type-C charger with 5V/3A on each port would also be a big plus. I have the google one but it only outputs 5V/3A on one port and 5V/1.2A on the other.

USB-C Cables and Fast/Quick Charging

I have the original Pixel and the charger that came with it. When charging, it says "charging rapidly" (not sure if this is "quick change", "fast charge", turbo, or whatever slightly different variation there might be, but it's faster than "normal"). This charger has the smaller USB-C type connectors at both ends, meaning I can't use most "normal" wall adapters because those are for the bigger USB connectors. However, I know there are cables available that have the "normal" bigger USB connector at one end (ex. for the wall adapter) and the smaller USB-C connector at the other end (ex. to plug into the phone).
My question is this: can a cable with the different types of connectors support the fast charging? Or is this only possible with cables that have the smaller USB-C connectors at both ends? I realize you still might have to have the "right" cable/adapter (ex. cheap cables/adapters might not fast-charge) and I'm not asking about any of that, I'm asking if fast charging is even possible with these cables or if the technical specs make this impossible. The reason I ask is because it's a lot more convenient to use a cable with a "regular" bigger connector for the wall adapter, but I don't necessarily want to give up fast charging for this convenience. I have one of these cables but it didn't seem to fast-charge, but I'm not sure if that's because of the adapter, particular cable, etc. or if it's just plain not possible.
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Aftermarket USB cable and rapid charging

Got a new G6 and now I have to replace my micro USB aftermarket cables with USB C cables that fit the G6. Do I need a special type of cable for rapid charging to work? or to connect the G6 to a computer?
I have an Anker 4-port charger and a rapid car charger.
Should I be looking at any special USB C cable, or will anything like these work?
https://www.amazon.com/Braided-Charger-Compatible-Samsung-Macbook/dp/B073WV3KCD/
https://www.amazon.com/TNSO-Braided-Charger-Charging-Samsung/dp/B07MHTN8RS/
https://www.amazon.com/SMALLElectric-Braided-Charger-Samsung-Nintendo/dp/B01I4ZOIQY/
or can I get a pack of Type-C to Micro-USB adapters and use it with the cables I have. Will it support rapid charging?
Thanks
I've been able to use turbocharging on my G6+ using my older micro USB cables with micro USB to USB C adapters.
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So the longer the cable, the less likely it'll read properly to turbo charge. When I had my Moto G6 play, the supplied charger would only turbo charge with certain cords. The longer braided ones wouldn't work properly unless I put it in an old Moto Z/Droid turbo charger. It was odd.
Then I ordered braided 3 ft cables for Moto Z, it wouldn't turbo charge with the car charger anymore. Seems to be very finicky. If the cable is advertised as turbo, and it doesn't work, return it and try another.
Good luck!
Using an Aukey two-port charger rated for QuickCharge3, and the moto reads it just fine as TurboCharge. Make SURE that your USB cable is actually rated as at least USB3.1. (alternately called USB 3.1 Gen 2) There are a lot of el cheapo cables out there which are either USB3.0 or even USB 2.0 with a type C connector slapped on them. Also remember that USB 3.1 cables are length sensetive, and should not be over 2 meteres (about 6 ft) long unless you are using what is called an 'active cable.' These have microchips in their connectors and are generally more expensive.
from Wikipedia ""A device with a Type-C connector does not necessarily implement USB 3.1, USB Power Delivery, or any Alternate Mode: the Type-C connector is common to several technologies while mandating only a few of them.[5][6]""

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