google dialer/call recording - General Questions and Answers

I would really like to understand this. I know Google shut down it's API for call recording a long time ago, and now, it's shutting down the ability for apps to use the accessibility API to do that. But, Pixel phones, and certain Samsung devices will have recording enabled on the google dialer, in certain areas(or countries).
Why only certain phones? Does Samsung pay google for that, or what?
My phone is a Teracube One (currently) it uses the google dialer but doesn't have the recording capability. I tried to switch my app store to Singapore to see if that would enable that functionality, but it didn't. I could try a factory reset, but I'm guessing that wouldn't work.
If I want call recording, in my next phone, what are my options? Buy only a Samsung or Pixel, after having paid for a flight to somewhere that it's enabled?
If I bought a fair phone, is there someway I could get call recording?
I'm lost and confused, on all this. I would appreciate anyone with a better understanding, commenting/replying.

Have you tried Cube ACR?

NextGenMagisk said:
Have you tried Cube ACR?
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If I'm not mistaken, that won't work going forward as it uses the Accessibility API that all third party recording apps do.

Asking again, please help me to understand what options I have

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Can Alexa and other AI stuff be turned off>

I don't like the concept of an open mic all the time listening to what I am doing. I know they say it only listens when you say the key word but I don't believe it as my brother has one of these devices in his living room and every once in a while it will just comment on what we are talking about without saying the key word.......creepy.
Can Alexa and other AI software be turned off permanently on the U11? I'm think of getting one and this is the thing that is stopping me. I've been an htc guy since my Aria days and would like to keep it that way. I just don't like this open mic stuff.
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Yes you can remove/ disable the Alexa on the device. I my self have used HTC since thunderbolt days on vzw and other gsm carriers internationally, I love the phones and messing with them ? . If you have root you can delete Alexa all together, or disable the app without root. My device does not have Alexa nor Google voice functionality as Google is also something I don't trust fully. When Alexa was on my phone it used to turn on randomly, and yes that did bother me too.. and Google logs everything as we all know.
Look into titanium backup if your rooted to make it easy, or you can limit permissions to stop the app from using hardware without root, which can be done in the device settings/ disable the app all together.

Fix if you lost RCS

Just wanted to post that if you lost RCS today try disabling dsds mode and rebooting.
I lost the RCS hack today around 1600 PST yesterday, I was able to reenable it by going into the dialer and entering the debug menu(*#*#4636#*#*) and disabling dsds mode, rebooting then reapplying the hack.
what is the dsds??
Dual sim dual standby
calinorg said:
Dual sim dual standby
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how do you do that
comptonhubbard said:
how do you do that
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Google dsds
comptonhubbard said:
how do you do that
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Luigi really told all in the first post...
luigi90210 said:
I was able to reenable it by going into the dialer and entering the debug menu(*#*#4636#*#*) and disabling dsds mode, rebooting then reapplying the hack.
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I realize this is personal preference, but I'm not sure why people would start changing options like that in an effort to keep RCS. The RCS "hack" is so limited to begin with that it seems silly to try to chase after it. Don't get me wrong, I did the RCS hack on my family's phones (and it's still working just fine as of the time of this post), but I'm not going to start changing other settings in an effort to keep it. If it works, great. If not, oh well. Easy come and easy go.
sic0048 said:
I realize this is personal preference, but I'm not sure why people would start changing options like that in an effort to keep RCS. The RCS "hack" is so limited to begin with that it seems silly to try to chase after it. Don't get me wrong, I did the RCS hack on my family's phones (and it's still working just fine as of the time of this post), but I'm not going to start changing other settings in an effort to keep it. If it works, great. If not, oh well. Easy come and easy go.
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Google has since fixed the dsds bug with RCS so it's working again in dsds mode. I prefer to use RCS over sms for many reasons, the biggest one being the fact that I can send higher quality photos and videos of my daughter to my fiance and family as well as knowing that my fiance has seen any messages I sent her.
It's not really limited, you get full RCS services doing the hack(which isn't even really a hack anymore as Google made it available to people with the latest messages beta), I also used the time that it was disabled to move from the sandbox url to the official Verizon url(I'm on Verizon) but my mom and fiance are still using the sandbox url without issue.
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It's not really limited, you get full RCS services doing the hack(which isn't even really a hack anymore as Google made it available to people with the latest messages beta).......
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I meant limited because it primarily only works with other people that have enabled this "hack" (at least in the USA). Obviously the RCS capabilities are full featured, but simply not available unless both phones/sides of the text stream are RCS capable.

Possible to replace the Google Phone (Dialer) App without rooting/flashing?

Hey everybody,
I'm currently in the process of minimizing my phones reliance on Google Apps without installing a custom ROM. Thus, I skipped the account login and disabled all the Google Apps I could and installed alternatives from F-Droid.
Unfortunately I so far haven't been able to get an alternative dialer app (Emerald Dialer, Lineage Dialer) to work, as the ones I've tested so far seem to rely on the Google Phone app being enabled to work. Seemingly, the system apps responsible for managing calls restrict the possible apps that can be used to place calls.
Does anybody know of a solution for this? Thank you! <3
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Just in case somebody looking for a solution to the same issue finds this thread:
Turns out my problem was that most alternative dialers don't come with a custom call screen. Calls would still be placed and received, but there was no way to hang up, mute, hold, etc.
The app Should I Answer? does provide its own call screen and can be set as the default phone app. Also I read through their Privacy Policy, and though they use Analytics, like almost every non-FOSS app, at least they don't sell data to third parties or build user profiles like Google does.
Be aware, that you have to activate some blocking option in the app in order to enable the custom call screen.
Hope this helps, have a good one.

Android 11: Can you still record calls?

I know I've asked this once before (and have gotten a reply, which I am very thankful for!) - but finally, I am able to pull the trigger on this great device.
The only question I have is: Is it possible to record calls on Android 11?
Because some phones have switched to Google Dialer for example on Android 11 and have lost their recording capability. Some did opt-in to use this stupid Google Dialer call recording thing which announces when a call is being recorded, but yeah, I don't want either. I either want a system recorder OR skvalex (Magisk module). The only issue with skvalex here is that ASUS phones lose warranty if you unlock.
Thanks!
YES you can record call. No need to root. No need fo rother apps. No need to do anything except You have to enable it in factory phone app first.. Only other phone that does this was a older xiami phone and I think they even stopped this feature. So this will be the goto phone for your phone call recordings and they do come out very clear..
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Thank you, much appreciated. I bought the phone by the way, loving it so far. Had only a question about the camera module but I posted that in a different thread. Seriously, out of OnePlus 7 Pro, Samsung Note 10+, Xiaomi MI 10T Pro and so many others, this is the best phone I tried. It ticks all the boxes really.
CALL RECORDING:
Xiaomi: If you buy EEA (Europe) model, there is no call recording. Global, I don't know. But you can get around these by using the Xiaomi.EU firmware. It's a "solution" I guess. But Xiaomi/MIUI still does not have "Ignore Do Not Disturb" for notifications, so good luck trying to get your home alarm notification or anything of that sort. Of course you can always use custom roms, but I have not seen a flawless/daily-driver-stable custom rom in the past 5 years or so.
Samsung: You can use a "CSC Changer" to change the CSC of your phone to a country that has Call Recording enabled. This trick works in Android 10 - I have not tried it on 11 yet. Your phone HAS TO BE SUPPORTED by the CSC changer. For example my Note 10+ was supported, but my 512GB Note 9 was not. So yeah, it's a hit or miss. And honestly, Samsung's own ecosystem is... yeah.
Nokia: Needs root -> lose warranty -> nope.
Motorola: Their phones are not Android One lately. (only some)
Honestly, ASUS is a really good brand, Zenfone is a super solid phone. Other than that, there is only Google Pixel really - IF they sell it in your country. There is OnePlus but oh my god, each model's own forum on OnePlus.com is FULL of complaints and issues. Each update breaks something, makes things worse. It's just a dreadful experience, considering you have to pay now close to 700-1000$ for some models.
Your specific question about call recording on A11 isn't answered though. I'm not on the beta program so I can't answer it either.

Is call recording yet possible?

Hi. Is it possible to record calls on Android os 13?
I heard since some Android 9 there is no possibility by many developers because they require a level of root to grant apps access.
Does it depend on root access and which os might have call recording function or might be working with call recorders?
Yes, call recording is possible on Android 13, but if it's not already enabled on your software, it will likely require root to enable.
Keep in mind that call recording may be illegal or restricted in some areas, and it is your own responsibility to be aware of the laws regarding recoding your calls.
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Does it depend on root access and which os might have call recording function or might be working with call recorders?
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In addition to what was @V0latyle said above, yes to this part. Even with the same phone it might be available in one country but not another (native). Other require root and some just aren't compatible. If you post more details maybe someone else can give you more detailed info for your situation.
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In addition to what was @V0latyle said above, yes to this part. Even with the same phone it might be available in one country but not another (native). Other require root and some just aren't compatible.
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I wanna buy a new phone and look which device might fit call recording best.
How do the manufacturers build phones detecting the permission or forbidance of recording? Is there a list of devices working? How come that some devices are not compatible for call recording at all?
I can only speak from what I've read and experienced. Samsung for example has it in a few markets only. Some call recorders I used in the past in the playstore listed certain phones weren't compatible, maybe technical limitations.
3rd party used to work with Samsung/for me but don't anymore. Unless it's allowed in your country (and comes with the phone) it could stop working at any time. Since I am in the USA, our laws are different in each state so none of our phones have it by default so I wouldn't be able to recommend anything.
There are subscription apps that route your calls through their servers and record on their end but don't recommend that.
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3rd party used to work with Samsung/for me but don't anymore. Unless it's allowed in your country (and comes with the phone) it could stop working at any time.
There are subscription apps that route your calls through their servers and record on their end but don't recommend that.
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Which Samsung was the last working with recorders? Seems like devices might scan the gsm?
Why don't you recommend these call routings? Due to data privacy, quality of voice or cost or other interference?
Ever since android 11 or 12 is stopped working for me. Haven't tried anything new since
And yes, privacy reasons. Also a bad experience, they all inevitably (except business grade solutions) tank. They are there one day and gone the next. I loved the one I was using, month after I bought a year subscription they were closing.
At this point I only make and acccept calls that I know won't need recording. If they do, I carry a second phone (impractical) or wait till I get home and use my tablets voice recorder app
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I loved the one I was using, month after I bought a year subscription they were closing.
At this point I only make and acccept calls that I know won't need recording. If they do, I carry a second phone (impractical) or wait till I get home and use my tablets voice recorder app
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How much did a subscription for one year cost you?
Do you use a speakerphone or make a hands-free mobile phone call while holding the microphone of your second mobile phone towards it?
It wasn't cheap, $52.99, did other things like let you listen into the call and have their "bot say what you typed" , etc.. but again that's gone. There might be similar services but it's not worth it.
And for the second device method, you can do wired (a lot of splitters/y-cables) or just speaker on the phone making the call.
All this is last resort stuff though. If you're in a country that allows it, just Google whatever model you're interested in "can phone-XYZ record calls in Country-ABC?"
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And for the second device method, you can do wired (a lot of splitters/y-cables) or just speaker on the phone making the call.
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Can you recommend a y-cable or splitter or name a technology that works well? And then just pluging in the 3.5mm jack or usb and how to record on the second device?
It's janky and It's really not practical though, just warning you in advance. It's also like $50 of cable spaghetti.
Basically you get a usb-c to 3.5 headset adapter for each phone. You get a headset splitter, headset goes into another splitter. Audio goes into one port, on the other headphone splitter plug you route a cable to the microphone splitter input of the second phone.
Maybe something pre-made exists but don't know what it's called. You should be able to find a diagram on Google of what I'm describing above.

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