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Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 340 USD and therefore Honor 8 has really caught my eye. I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is Honor 8 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How do custom ROM development prospects look right now for the device? From what I've seen, Huawei still hasn't released sources for Nougat. Can I expect good custom ROM support from this device?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone?
Thanks in advance.
Hi , i will just speak about question 4 ....
I had iphone7 , Huawei P9, Galaxy s7 and since 2 month : Honor 8
Yes for me you can buy this phone in 2017
It's a very good phone , very fluid, no lags, the phone is not too big , not to small, you can use with one hand . Screen is good , photo too but not like Iphone7 or Galaxy S7 . I am very happy with quick charge . For me the phone is more faster than an Iphone7, or Galaxy S7 . You can personalize like you want , You have a lot of nice themes on XDA or Google+ Emui Community . Sound is good, with headset is not like an Iphone or Galaxy s7 but to listen music is suffisant for me . Voilà, my advice is very good phone, just photo and music with headset can be better but stay ok for daily use .
The device is solid. Runs fast, pretty good specs, and looks nice.
Expect zero updates. Zero custom ROM support, and even rooting is a pain in the butt.
If you're into it for the dev scene, move on. If you want a half decent device for daily use, not bad at all.
Personally I regret buying it because Huawei is terrible at updates and keeping promises.
But as a daily driver device, it's fine.
Don't buy it's an alright phone but no custom ROM support is like a death sentence for a phone. This phone has been out for like 9 months and doesn't have a fully working custom ROM, that right there tells you that this phone has no future. Also who keeps wants to keep a low to mid range phone for 3-4 years? Must be in a 3rd world country!
I am happy with the phone but I'm disappointed with Huawei/Honor when it comes to updates and I am not going to buy more phones from them.
I would get something else right now, it was a good choice when it was released
Next time I will just pay 200 extra euro and get a real phone
Yeah it is a good phone but i am disappointed i expected few roms by now...i wish i could turn time back and go for xiaomi rednote 3 pro
1. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
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It's hassle-free.
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is Honor 8 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
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Huawei offer 2 years of updates, but not monthly updates. Taking a look at honor 6 released in august 2014 - it is indeed so. Latest update for honor 6 is september 30th 2016.
3. How do custom ROM development prospects look right now for the device? From what I've seen, Huawei still hasn't released sources for Nougat. Can I expect good custom ROM support from this device?
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No. Don't expect good custom ROM for this device.
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone?
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I'm pretty satisfied. I enjoy it's dimensions, design, performance and battery life. Games aside, it's faster than any SD820 phone and most SD821 phones (take a look at performance comparison videos on youtube), so it's definitely going to be quick enough for 3-4 years.
If no custom ROM support, lower than SD820 GPU performance and only 2 years of official updates are OK for you (as it is for me) - I definitely recommend it.
Fobos531 said:
Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 340 USD and therefore Honor 8 has really caught my eye. I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is Honor 8 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How do custom ROM development prospects look right now for the device? From what I've seen, Huawei still hasn't released sources for Nougat. Can I expect good custom ROM support from this device?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone?
Thanks in advance.
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You can easily get a code from Huawei to unlock the bootloader, but there's not much point to rooting the phone with development on it pretty nonexistent.
The hardware is really nice. The phone's a great size, the CPU is a beast, the GPU kind of sucks (but that doesn't matter if you're not playing new/demanding games on it like me), but the security updates are TERRIBLE. The most recent software update for the US version of the phone came out in the beginning of January. So we're almost four months into the year and the December 1st security patch is the most recent one available.
If you'd be happy with Nougat 7.0/EMUI 5.0 in a year from now and don't do anything that having security up to date matters it's fine, but otherwise I'd look elsewhere.
Like title says, OP 3/3T (July and November 2016) will get Android P:
The Android P update will be available on the OnePlus 6, OnePlus 5/T and OnePlus 3/3T, in this order. We will keep you all updated in the coming months.
I don't believe Huawei would bring Android P for P9, but I would be amazed if Huawei brings Android P for P9 (released April 2016).
TL;DR OnePlus 3/3T (2016) will get Android P. What about P9 (2016 too)?
Source: https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/android-p-is-coming-to-the-oneplus-3-and-3t.879545/
We didn't even get oreo
Finsku said:
Like title says, OP 3/3T (July and November 2016) will get Android P:
The Android P update will be available on the OnePlus 6, OnePlus 5/T and OnePlus 3/3T, in this order. We will keep you all updated in the coming months.
I don't believe Huawei would bring Android P for P9, but I would be amazed if Huawei brings Android P for P9 (released April 2016).
TL;DR OnePlus 3/3T (2016) will get Android P. What about P9 (2016 too)?
Source: https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/android-p-is-coming-to-the-oneplus-3-and-3t.879545/
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Highly Doubt Huawei will do that. Especially given the number of device they release per year. They don't have the time to develop for older phones. Best example is this Oreo update, its become almost an year and still we haven't got Oreo globally. I even doubt Kirin 95X devices will even get the GPU turbo update.
Don't expect too much with this brand even if they manufacture their own SoC.
udamster said:
Highly Doubt Huawei will do that. Especially given the number of device they release per year. They don't have the time to develop for older phones. Best example is this Oreo update, its become almost an year and still we haven't got Oreo globally. I even doubt Kirin 95X devices will even get the GPU turbo update.
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I was thinking the same like you. Well, P9 was great but they updates their phones too slowly or not at all. Time to move to another brand, for example OP or Nokia
Finsku said:
I was thinking the same like you. Well, P9 was great but they updates their phones too slowly or not at all. Time to move to another brand, for example OP or Nokia
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Same here next phone would probably be out of OP/NOKIA. P9 is a great device but it's software support is quite dissappointing.
Most pointless topic i red in a long time.
Topic for people who actually dont use phone at all, they just spend time staring at phone info tab and browsing other phones topic to see with one get update sooner...
Such people expect some miracles from updates, like they give them new battery, new camera, bring 10000% performances...
Seriously what is wrong with P9 now? its work perfectly for 2 years old device. From the beginning it was not fastest device so even at the premiere it was slower than competition, but it makes up in different categories: look, camera and stability. And that what it give. I didnt reset my phone for 42 days now, it work all the time with most of features turned on.
What you could expect more from device of that type? Its not powerhouse device, and it never was, it was fancy phone with nice camera. The End.
We getting constant security patches so paranoid people can feel secure, all apps work without a problem...
Orea will not change anything beside bigger number in phone info tab and some new features that most of you will turn off after week anyway....
You wanted phone that you could tinker with? Get that OnePlus 3/3T.... What is stopping you?
Akinaro said:
Topic for people who actually dont use phone at all, they just spend time staring at phone info tab and browsing other phones topic to see with one get update sooner...
Such people expect some miracles from updates, like they give them new battery, new camera, bring 10000% performances...
Seriously what is wrong with P9 now? its work perfectly for 2 years old device. From the beginning it was not fastest device so even at the premiere it was slower than competition, but it makes up in different categories: look, camera and stability. And that what it give. I didnt reset my phone for 42 days now, it work all the time with most of features turned on.
What you could expect more from device of that type? Its not powerhouse device, and it never was, it was fancy phone with nice camera. The End.
We getting constant security patches so paranoid people can feel secure, all apps work without a problem...
Orea will not change anything beside bigger number in phone info tab and some new features that most of you will turn off after week anyway....
You wanted phone that you could tinker with? Get that OnePlus 3/3T.... What is stopping you?
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You're absolutely right.:good:
What is this for a Thread and a absolutly Confused Question on Startpost. Android P for P9 to compare with One Plus 3T. It is very Logical for me that One Plus 3T became P that P9 Oreo. Dreamer
Probably he's one of those who still think that people from Huawei run this forum (or at least visit this). A bit bummed that we won't be getting Oreo, but hey just like what they said, it's pretty good for a phone released years ago.
HMD Global, the manufacturer of the recent Nokia phones, has notoriously been against releasing kernel source codes for its devices, despite their popularity. And even when it does push those out to the development community, it typically prevents people from unlocking the phones' bootloaders, which hampers customization options. But this morning brought news that Nokia 8 owners could do just that: unlock their bootloaders.
To the passionate developer and modding community out there, we have news to share!
You can now unlock the bootloader of your #Nokia. #BootloaderUnlock #Nokiamobile
Click on this link
https://t.co/v61TmWNbV9
Nokia 7+ not supported... error.
vegeta360 said:
Nokia 7+ not supported... error.
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Only Nokia 8 is supported at the moment.
Wrong post in a wrong thread. It should have been in Nokia 8 development thread instead of Nokia 7 plus.
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Wrong post in a wrong thread. It should have been in Nokia 8 development thread instead of Nokia 7 plus.
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yes, but.. is one step to have unlocking of N7p... IF HMD is not TOO stupid, and not want have unlocking after 1 year after release (as i think is Nokia8), because of-course this NOT help growing developers community, is NEED have unlocking max some month after release, OR all possible developers buy ANOTHER phone from ANOTHER company, or SELL his already buyed N7p...
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yes, but.. is one step to have unlocking of N7p... IF HMD is not TOO stupid, and not want have unlocking after 1 year after release (as i think is Nokia8), because of-course this NOT help growing developers community, is NEED have unlocking max some month after release, OR all possible developers buy ANOTHER phone from ANOTHER company, or SELL his already buyed N7p...
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Very true! Even I am planning to get a Poco F1. It may not have super built quality, but Xiaomi atleast allows its devices to be modified. They have even selected a handful of XDA developers and giving them Poco F1 for free so that they can develop good custom ROMs and kernels for the device. This is the difference in between Xiaomi and Nokia.
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Very true! Even I am planning to get a Poco F1. It may not have super built quality, but Xiaomi atleast allows its devices to be modified. They have even selected a handful of XDA developers and giving them Poco F1 for free so that they can develop good custom ROMs and kernels for the device. This is the difference in between Xiaomi and Nokia.
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i too thinking about Poco F1, although sure be lower quality and plastic, although i not want more cpu power:
- officialy unlocking bootloader from day of release
- in day of release released kernel source
- official statement that unlocking bootloader NOT "void warranty"
- official statement (and recommendation!) that user can try/install GSI or custom ROM
- official support of xda developres by donating multiple Poco F1 devices to them!!!
this is REALLY different that Nokia, yes Nokia (HMD) too have some nice approach:
- AndroidOne
- N7p in beta program
- collaboration with Carl Zeis
but WHY not have GOOD HW and GOOD COMMUNITY support?? Nokia she could "next best Nexus line for users&developeres&community", if not stupid...
k3dar7 said:
i too thinking about Poco F1, although sure be lower quality and plastic, although i not want more cpu power:
- officialy unlocking bootloader from day of release
- in day of release released kernel source
- official statement that unlocking bootloader NOT "void warranty"
- official statement (and recommendation!) that user can try/install GSI or custom ROM
- official support of xda developres by donating multiple Poco F1 devices to them!!!
this is REALLY different that Nokia, yes Nokia (HMD) too have some nice approach:
- AndroidOne
- N7p in beta program
- collaboration with Carl Zeis
but WHY not have GOOD HW and GOOD COMMUNITY support?? Nokia she could "next best Nexus line for users&developeres&community", if not stupid...
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The biggest drawback of Nokia devices are very less resell value. Just to give you an example. I sold my 10 months old Xiaomi Mi A1 for 8500 rupees which cost me around 15000. And my 2 months old Nokia 7 plus is not getting more than 15000 which cost me 26000. Which means I will now have to accept a loss of 11000 in just two months. I tried everywhere (e.g. Olx, Quikr, Cashify, local vendors) but nobody is offering me more than 15000. All retail vendors told me the same thing that Nokia devices do not have resell value. I would have never bought a Nokia device if I knew that before.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
The biggest drawback of Nokia devices are very less resell value. Just to give you an example. I sold my 10 months old Xiaomi Mi A1 for 8500 rupees which cost me around 15000. And my 2 months old Nokia 7 plus is not getting more than 15000 which cost me 26000. Which means I will now have to accept a loss of 11000 in just two months. I tried everywhere (e.g. Olx, Quikr, Cashify, local vendors) but nobody is offering me more than 15000. All retail vendors told me the same thing that Nokia devices do not have resell value. I would have never bought a Nokia device if I knew that before.
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If you use this strategy you need to buy iPhone not Android phones. Best resell value. I buy my phones looking at the features I need and when I buy another phone, my old phone became my backup phone.
StormIceX said:
If you use this strategy you need to buy iPhone not Android phones. Best resell value. I buy my phones looking at the features I need and when I buy another phone, my old phone became my backup phone.
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I think I mentioned the resell value of Xiaomi Mi A1 which is an Android device. And features gets old faster with new features coming every day. So, no wonder we may want to resell our device in order to get a new one with the latest features and not everyone needs 2-3 devices. Decreasing the device value of 11k in just two months is insane. I wonder what would be the value of the device after 5-6 months. No wonder, I have made a big mistake and I am regretting now. But lesson learnt.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
The biggest drawback of Nokia devices are very less resell value. [...] I sold my 10 months old Xiaomi Mi A1 for 8500 rupees which cost me around 15000. And my 2 months old Nokia 7 plus is not getting more than 15000 which cost me 26000
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then A1 you sell for 56% of new price, and N7p for 57% of new price, this is more percent
k3dar7 said:
then A1 you sell for 56% of new price, and N7p for 57% of new price, this is more percent
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You don't get ut, do you? That Mi A1 was 10 months old for which I got 56% resell value. And this Nokia 7 plus is only 2 months (not even proper 2 months) old and it gives me only 57%
Imagine what would be the resell value of this device afyer 10 months? Probably 6-7k or even worse.
nokia 7+ developer options
there is an option to unlock boot loader in the phone after pie update. is this the key to finally root the device?
vegeta360 said:
there is an option to unlock boot loader in the phone after pie update. is this the key to finally root the device?
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If you think DeveloperOptions/OEMUnlocking, then NO, this be here also with Oreo and still is need for unlocking have signature file generated for your specific SN/IMEI
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Asus launched an Android Pie beta program for the Zenfone 4 flagship back in the summer. Several months later an employee with the Taiwanese company said there is no plan for the Pie update, and today a report from China confirmed once again the worries - the Asus Zenfone 4 will remain on Oreo.
Meanwhile the first ROG Phone is also stuck on the two-year-old OS. Upon further review, it appears that the gaming handset will indeed miss on the Pie as well.
The Asus Zenfone 4 was initially launched at MWC 2017 with Android Nougat 7.1, but later received Android Oreo. Then the devices with model numbers ZE554KL were open for an Android Pie beta testing, but that’s pretty much it for big software updates. Plenty of comments in the company forum voiced their concerns with the lack of updates, but a moderator assured that at least the security updates will keep coming for at least two years.
Interestingly enough, a lot of Asus users are complaining from the beta version as well - it is way too buggy and gets less stable with every next day. Comments on the ZenTalk forum reveal that there is no easy way to get back to a stable version of the OS - all you have left is a total wipeout of the device, which isn’t something that everyone wants to do to their phone.
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So the phone is not only has red tint effect, The support sucks as well. This reminds of what happend to Xperia Play. Gaming phones are gimmick
Glad that I sold my Tencent ROG phone 2 asap. I lost only $40.
D.Spirit said:
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So the phone is not only has red tint effect, The support sucks as well. This reminds of what happend to Xperia Play. Gaming phones are gimmick
Glad that I sold my Tencent ROG phone 2 asap. I lost only $40.
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But that's about rog phone, not rog phone 2? Confused.
First of all this news is about the rog phone 1, and second, every single phone in the market has some tradeoffs, i'd prefer it be softwarewise than hardware, good luck with whatever potato phone you might buy..
PIE 9 is finally here, please update
I hate them so Much for this **** with the Rog 1. I think I dont Buy anything from Asus in the Future again.
Postponed due to a similar petition was launched (long ago)
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Give Android 11 / OneUI 3.0 to Galaxy Note9 / S9(+) phones.
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Yea get rid of it. People have been making these things for years. It's useless. It's cause so much issues on xda people arguing your petition don't mean jack to them
TheMadScientist said:
Yea get rid of it. People have been making these things for years. It's useless. It's cause so much issues on xda people arguing your petition don't mean jack to them
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But samsung broke curse for S10 this is due to accumulating demand, i am doing this for s50 for 4 system updates
jjgvv said:
But samsung broke curse for S10 this is due to accumulating demand, i am doing this for s50 for 4 system updates
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Yea thats why I'm on a note 10 f ds. All my American friends whine about having locked bootloader and do the same thing petition after petition and not gone nowhere. That why I buy unlocked bl now so I don't deal with it
As I said in an other thread we will recive android 11 through the note 10 lite port. they share the same exynos processor.
so it will not be an official release but it's better than nothing.
For the snapdragon variant i don't think they will get anything
The petition should be about the Samsung S9 Plus snapdragon variant getting the oem unlocked
We are getting one UI 2.5 the next month in October anyway so so after wireless dex there is nothing important coming
mhmedahmed1996 said:
The petition should be about the Samsung S9 Plus snapdragon variant getting the oem unlocked
We are getting one UI 2.5 the next month in October anyway so so after wireless dex there is nothing important coming
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I like this idea
mhmedahmed1996 said:
The petition should be about the Samsung S9 Plus snapdragon variant getting the oem unlocked
We are getting one UI 2.5 the next month in October anyway so so after wireless dex there is nothing important coming
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Exynos does not have locked BL?
leonardojt said:
I like this idea
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OK i will try to make this petition
Petition give android 28 like it's something new and we need!!!
INfact this is GOOGLE's fault, they created such STUPID idiotic OS. Normal OS can get security updates independent from manufacturer, but google made so that only manufacturer can update phones, which is STUPID. Android OS should be in-depended from manufacturers. Android 28 will be just like that
afigienas said:
Petition give android 28 like it's something new and we need!!!
INfact this is GOOGLE's fault, they created such STUPID idiotic OS. Normal OS can get security updates independent from manufacturer, but google made so that only manufacturer can update phones, which is STUPID. Android OS should be in-depended from manufacturers. Android 28 will be just like that
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This is sensible, but you need
*All phones has unlocked bootloader
*All phones support treble
TheMadScientist said:
Yea get rid of it. People have been making these things for years. It's useless. It's cause so much issues on xda people arguing your petition don't mean jack to them
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The op has valid points. These are not some $200 ~ $300 phones which are low powered to not be able to run few iterations of os. These were about $900 plus when launched. We're not talkin about 2011~2015 when phones had 1 gb ram as standard or 2gb but after 2 years the os required more hence those were not considered upgrade worthy. Now these phones have minimum 6GB at least my S9+ has and i'm sure Note also would be same or higher. Also there is enough hp in the chipset to pick up few updates. My phone got updated last night to 2.5UI and everything is so smooth and with tons of widgets on home screen updating real time there is still about 2.6gb ram available all the time and not a single stutter.
In these current times people will not upgrade $1000 plus phones every 2 years in many countries since unlike USA/EU we don't get carrier contracts. People buy upfront and would like to stick for 3 years at least .
So am totally with OP on this. We should have one more update on the os.
edit: lol just noticed my Signature. Shows when I was last active on this site. After S4, had Note 4, S7 edge and now S9 +. None after S4 were rooted or tampered with since the os was good enough and smooth enough.
As said before. They owe us no updates. We buy them as is. Its generosity that they give what they do. They are not obligated to do any more after sales other than warranties