HMD Global, the manufacturer of the recent Nokia phones, has notoriously been against releasing kernel source codes for its devices, despite their popularity. And even when it does push those out to the development community, it typically prevents people from unlocking the phones' bootloaders, which hampers customization options. But this morning brought news that Nokia 8 owners could do just that: unlock their bootloaders.
To the passionate developer and modding community out there, we have news to share!
You can now unlock the bootloader of your #Nokia. #BootloaderUnlock #Nokiamobile
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Nokia 7+ not supported... error.
vegeta360 said:
Nokia 7+ not supported... error.
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Only Nokia 8 is supported at the moment.
Wrong post in a wrong thread. It should have been in Nokia 8 development thread instead of Nokia 7 plus.
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Wrong post in a wrong thread. It should have been in Nokia 8 development thread instead of Nokia 7 plus.
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yes, but.. is one step to have unlocking of N7p... IF HMD is not TOO stupid, and not want have unlocking after 1 year after release (as i think is Nokia8), because of-course this NOT help growing developers community, is NEED have unlocking max some month after release, OR all possible developers buy ANOTHER phone from ANOTHER company, or SELL his already buyed N7p...
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yes, but.. is one step to have unlocking of N7p... IF HMD is not TOO stupid, and not want have unlocking after 1 year after release (as i think is Nokia8), because of-course this NOT help growing developers community, is NEED have unlocking max some month after release, OR all possible developers buy ANOTHER phone from ANOTHER company, or SELL his already buyed N7p...
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Very true! Even I am planning to get a Poco F1. It may not have super built quality, but Xiaomi atleast allows its devices to be modified. They have even selected a handful of XDA developers and giving them Poco F1 for free so that they can develop good custom ROMs and kernels for the device. This is the difference in between Xiaomi and Nokia.
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Very true! Even I am planning to get a Poco F1. It may not have super built quality, but Xiaomi atleast allows its devices to be modified. They have even selected a handful of XDA developers and giving them Poco F1 for free so that they can develop good custom ROMs and kernels for the device. This is the difference in between Xiaomi and Nokia.
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i too thinking about Poco F1, although sure be lower quality and plastic, although i not want more cpu power:
- officialy unlocking bootloader from day of release
- in day of release released kernel source
- official statement that unlocking bootloader NOT "void warranty"
- official statement (and recommendation!) that user can try/install GSI or custom ROM
- official support of xda developres by donating multiple Poco F1 devices to them!!!
this is REALLY different that Nokia, yes Nokia (HMD) too have some nice approach:
- AndroidOne
- N7p in beta program
- collaboration with Carl Zeis
but WHY not have GOOD HW and GOOD COMMUNITY support?? Nokia she could "next best Nexus line for users&developeres&community", if not stupid...
k3dar7 said:
i too thinking about Poco F1, although sure be lower quality and plastic, although i not want more cpu power:
- officialy unlocking bootloader from day of release
- in day of release released kernel source
- official statement that unlocking bootloader NOT "void warranty"
- official statement (and recommendation!) that user can try/install GSI or custom ROM
- official support of xda developres by donating multiple Poco F1 devices to them!!!
this is REALLY different that Nokia, yes Nokia (HMD) too have some nice approach:
- AndroidOne
- N7p in beta program
- collaboration with Carl Zeis
but WHY not have GOOD HW and GOOD COMMUNITY support?? Nokia she could "next best Nexus line for users&developeres&community", if not stupid...
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The biggest drawback of Nokia devices are very less resell value. Just to give you an example. I sold my 10 months old Xiaomi Mi A1 for 8500 rupees which cost me around 15000. And my 2 months old Nokia 7 plus is not getting more than 15000 which cost me 26000. Which means I will now have to accept a loss of 11000 in just two months. I tried everywhere (e.g. Olx, Quikr, Cashify, local vendors) but nobody is offering me more than 15000. All retail vendors told me the same thing that Nokia devices do not have resell value. I would have never bought a Nokia device if I knew that before.
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The biggest drawback of Nokia devices are very less resell value. Just to give you an example. I sold my 10 months old Xiaomi Mi A1 for 8500 rupees which cost me around 15000. And my 2 months old Nokia 7 plus is not getting more than 15000 which cost me 26000. Which means I will now have to accept a loss of 11000 in just two months. I tried everywhere (e.g. Olx, Quikr, Cashify, local vendors) but nobody is offering me more than 15000. All retail vendors told me the same thing that Nokia devices do not have resell value. I would have never bought a Nokia device if I knew that before.
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If you use this strategy you need to buy iPhone not Android phones. Best resell value. I buy my phones looking at the features I need and when I buy another phone, my old phone became my backup phone.
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If you use this strategy you need to buy iPhone not Android phones. Best resell value. I buy my phones looking at the features I need and when I buy another phone, my old phone became my backup phone.
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I think I mentioned the resell value of Xiaomi Mi A1 which is an Android device. And features gets old faster with new features coming every day. So, no wonder we may want to resell our device in order to get a new one with the latest features and not everyone needs 2-3 devices. Decreasing the device value of 11k in just two months is insane. I wonder what would be the value of the device after 5-6 months. No wonder, I have made a big mistake and I am regretting now. But lesson learnt.
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The biggest drawback of Nokia devices are very less resell value. [...] I sold my 10 months old Xiaomi Mi A1 for 8500 rupees which cost me around 15000. And my 2 months old Nokia 7 plus is not getting more than 15000 which cost me 26000
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then A1 you sell for 56% of new price, and N7p for 57% of new price, this is more percent
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then A1 you sell for 56% of new price, and N7p for 57% of new price, this is more percent
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You don't get ut, do you? That Mi A1 was 10 months old for which I got 56% resell value. And this Nokia 7 plus is only 2 months (not even proper 2 months) old and it gives me only 57%
Imagine what would be the resell value of this device afyer 10 months? Probably 6-7k or even worse.
nokia 7+ developer options
there is an option to unlock boot loader in the phone after pie update. is this the key to finally root the device?
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there is an option to unlock boot loader in the phone after pie update. is this the key to finally root the device?
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If you think DeveloperOptions/OEMUnlocking, then NO, this be here also with Oreo and still is need for unlocking have signature file generated for your specific SN/IMEI
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My faithful nexus have served me well but it needs to be replaced soon
What phone is the spiritual successor of the nexus line with the following characteristics:
Many developers for the phone. (AOSP port within weeks without official support)
5-6 inch
<500$
Is it correct that most devs wants snapdragon?
I see OnePlus as a candidate, is there more not counting Pixel.
Nothing stands out to me as outstanding this year. I am considering a LG G5
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OnePlus 3 would be your best bet for sure.
I think the Xiaomi 5s is the best option.
I know you're probably dismissing the Pixel because of the price, but it really is a great phone. My sister just got one on Sunday since her S3 died a horrible death (eMMC card gave in for some unknown reason). The ad really wasn't lying with regard to having a great camera and charging extremely quickly (she got it at around 85% battery mid-Sunday and didn't have to charge it until 6 PM on Monday).
Yeah you're stuck in a sort of dead period between now and Mobile World Congress in Feb when the next wave of phone announcements come. As ppl have said, OnePlus3 (or rumoured OnePplus3T is your best bet in the flagship-specs-for-cheap segment. Mi5 or Mi5S would be the other option - maybe slightly prettier but bit more of a hassle to unlock and likely to have less good custom ROM support than the OnePlus.
Other than that wait til Feb/Mar for the next wave. In the meantime you could pick up a low end $150 device (take your pick of the Chinese vendors - I use a RedMi3) to tide you over and then use it as a backup phone?
Thanks for the replies.
I am not in a hurry as my old nexus is working fine
I had a look at mi5 page here at xda and saw that it hasen't got nougat yet so that's disqualifying.
Maybe I should formulate the question as: What brand do you think that CM,AOKP etc. will develop mainly on?
Even i have the same thoughts as yours and this is what I planned to do when im switching my Nexus 5.
- Look for a spiritual replacement: Right now I can only see One plus 3, which gives good hardware and dev support for under $500. Other phones are Axon 7 and Zen Phone Deluxe. They have good hardware but you need to research on the development part. Pixel is a good phone but not worth the price and im against such products.
- Look for a cheaper phone till I find a spiritual replacement: Xiaomi products are really good for $200. If you get bored in a year or so, can replace it with another cheaper phone till you find the replacement. Few Xiaomi phones have AOSP rom's which can be installed. I have not come across any other $200 phone with good hardware and little bit of dev support. One of the phones around $200 is Redmi Note 3. It has a Nougat AOSP ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/red...cyanogenmod-14-0-xiaomi-redmi-note-3-t3459382
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Thanks for the replies.
I am not in a hurry as my old nexus is working fine
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Oh. If you're not rushing wait til OnePlus4 (or whatever the successor is) launches in spring.
johnnydue said:
Thanks for the replies.
Maybe I should formulate the question as: What brand do you think that CM,AOKP etc. will develop mainly on?
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Pixel will be the leading brand open platforms develop on!
Otherwise OnePlus is probably a good bet. I heard from someone that many googlers use them now for all the reasons discussed above.
Otherwise your best bet for support is the device which has the largest installed base in the non-Chinese speaking world. Largest installed base = more users = (all things equal) more devs. Maybe you can get a Samsung device for cheap!!
The Nokia 7 Plus is a perfect midrange premium device and supports Treble too but what bothers me is the lack of an official bootloader unlock method. From Nokia's past actions its very difficult to guess what Nokia will offer in 2018, at first this phone excited me but the past events disappointed again. Hope Nokia atleast offers official bootloader unlock method, if not kernel sources, then also we'll be able to flash a GSI on it
isn't nokia obliged to have the bootloader of this device unlockable, considering it has an android one monicker? i expected this phone to support the bootloader unlocking via fastboot just like the google phones.
ondoy1943 said:
isn't nokia obliged to have the bootloader of this device unlockable, considering it has an android one monicker? i expected this phone to support the bootloader unlocking via fastboot just like the google phones.
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xactly man........pointed out the right thing, I missed it...... @phhusson as we were discussing about the nokia devices, they might be unlockable like the Mi A1 and other android One devices
That's what I'm counting on. So far Nokia was throwing me off because they don't allow to unlock bootloader despite saying months ago they acknowledge community is requesting it and that they will discuss it whit their dev team (that was one of Nokia marketing guys)
Xiaomi had to allow regular bootloader unlock through fastboot command like Nexus and Pixel (without asking Xiaomi for permission and waiting 2 weeks till they grant it to you like with all regular Xiaomi devices)
My hope is that Nokia 7 plus will have to work the same way being Android One phone.
One thing I noticed is it has its own Nokia camera app the same way MiA1 has Xiaomi Camera app. Hoping that with unlocked bootloader, rooted, there will be no problem using moded Google Camera app. Or maybe Nokia camera app will be so good there will be no point bothering with Google Camera app, maybe for portrait mode.
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That's what I'm counting on. So far Nokia was throwing me off because they don't allow to unlock bootloader despite saying months ago they acknowledge community is requesting it and that they will discuss it whit their dev team (that was one of Nokia marketing guys)
Xiaomi had to allow regular bootloader unlock through fastboot command like Nexus and Pixel (without asking Xiaomi for permission and waiting 2 weeks till they grant it to you like with all regular Xiaomi devices)
My hope is that Nokia 7 plus will have to work the same way being Android One phone.
One thing I noticed is it has its own Nokia camera app the same way MiA1 has Xiaomi Camera app. Hoping that with unlocked bootloader, rooted, there will be no problem using moded Google Camera app. Or maybe Nokia camera app will be so good there will be no point bothering with Google Camera app, maybe for portrait mode.
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If the Nokia camera app turns out to be good enough, someone on XDA will port it to other devices too.
venom928 said:
The Nokia 7 Plus is a perfect midrange premium device and supports Treble too but what bothers me is the lack of an official bootloader unlock method. From Nokia's past actions its very difficult to guess what Nokia will offer in 2018, at first this phone excited me but the past events disappointed again. Hope Nokia atleast offers official bootloader unlock method, if not kernel sources, then also we'll be able to flash a GSI on it
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What price of Nokia 7+ in India and when launched
j€nish said:
What price of Nokia 7+ in India and when launched
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I think it will be under 30k, fingers crossed
The Chinese version of Nokia will not provide unlocking, the Chinese forum said
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娇身冠养 said:
The Chinese version of Nokia will not provide unlocking, the Chinese forum said
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should be expected, what with pervasive paranoia in there...
ondoy1943 said:
should be expected, what with pervasive paranoia in there...
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If Nokia can't unlock, then I won't choose to buy Nokia
娇身冠养 said:
If Nokia can't unlock, then I won't choose to buy Nokia
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I agree with you, if Nokia does not unlock bootloader I will not buy Nokia 7 +, instead I'll buy moto g 6 plus.
jekyll86 said:
I agree with you, if Nokia does not unlock bootloader I will not buy Nokia 7 +, instead I'll buy moto g 6 plus.
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Same here......I've also kept these 2 phones in my shortlist, Nokia 7+ or G6 Plus
inside china google cannot enforce their will on the oem, hence nokia has to bend to somebody else's wishes. but i think outside of china, google will enforce its requirements on android one phones. so i have high expectations that this device will have unlockable bootloader. let's see......
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inside china google cannot enforce their will on the oem, hence nokia has to bend to somebody else's wishes. but i think outside of china, google will enforce its requirements on android one phones. so i have high expectations that this device will have unlockable bootloader. let's see......
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Android one devices have the option by default to enable OEM UNLOCK in developers settings so I guess inside China also the device will have this option to get the bootloader unlocked
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That's what I'm counting on. So far Nokia was throwing me off because they don't allow to unlock bootloader despite saying months ago they acknowledge community is requesting it and that they will discuss it whit their dev team (that was one of Nokia marketing guys)
Xiaomi had to allow regular bootloader unlock through fastboot command like Nexus and Pixel (without asking Xiaomi for permission and waiting 2 weeks till they grant it to you like with all regular Xiaomi devices)
My hope is that Nokia 7 plus will have to work the same way being Android One phone.
One thing I noticed is it has its own Nokia camera app the same way MiA1 has Xiaomi Camera app. Hoping that with unlocked bootloader, rooted, there will be no problem using moded Google Camera app. Or maybe Nokia camera app will be so good there will be no point bothering with Google Camera app, maybe for portrait mode.
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Yeah, i think the same way. Nokia 7+ and 8 Scirocco are my number one choice for this year so far, but i checked the other Nokia`s phones forums here and this locked bootloader ruins it all. I like to root and customize my phone (even if it comes with a pure android) but with a locked bootloader it`s complicated.
Hope the 2018 releases get unlocked. If not i`ll have to look for other alternatives...
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Yeah, i think the same way. Nokia 7+ and 8 Scirocco are my number one choice for this year so far, but i checked the other Nokia`s phones forums here and this locked bootloader ruins it all. I like to root and customize my phone (even if it comes with a pure android) but with a locked bootloader it`s complicated.
Hope the 2018 releases get unlocked. If not i`ll have to look for other alternatives...
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With locked bootloader itz not complicated, its impossible
So what are th chances that Nokia allows bootloader unlock and releases source code?
venom928 said:
With locked bootloader itz not complicated, its impossible
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Yeah, sure. But what i meant is that it will be complicated to use a locked phone...
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Yeah, sure. But what i meant is that it will be complicated to use a locked phone...
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I exactly, I also cannot live with a locked device
As title say: tell me
meh! no source release, no bootloader unlock...... nothing of value has been lost! as you can see here, there is little to no custom ROMs so your stuck with EMUI. ill gladly buy a oneplus device over a huawei if there are no other alternatives. thankfully i have decided on the zenfone 6!
Good. Kind of happy. Hope Huawei will go down for not updating C636 device
It's political BS, but Huawei weren't supporting the Honor 8 anyway, so it's not affecting us.
Independent development is a joke, official support is worst... this is just another nail in the coffin. It doesn't matter the reasons, only the end result.
Goodbye Huawei/Honor.
huawei could have been huge in the north america if instead of their closed source chips they used snapdragon chips. sure they spend a bit more but using snapdragon chips also allows huawei to keep their secrets to themselves while giving the rest of us what we want and deserve..... sources! also, i think LG should just **** off already! not allowing bootloader unlocking on hardware that you own is bull****! this should be a law. the right to repair act should cover this kind of thing but here in the US corporate money keeps the govt on their side. if the EU could make this happen it would be amazing!
Should Have been banned 2 years back. Atleast I would not have wasted my money...
Now after just 2 years of usage I have to upgrade. I use most of my phones for 4 years..
How are the Pixel 3a's in comparison to the Honor 8? As far as performance goes?
And can those be rooted? I'm basically happy with my Honor 8 after replacing the battery last month as far as performance goes, but I kind of want security updates and OS updates would be nice too.
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How are the Pixel 3a's in comparison to the Honor 8? As far as performance goes?
And can those be rooted? I'm basically happy with my Honor 8 after replacing the battery last month as far as performance goes, but I kind of want security updates and OS updates would be nice too.
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How much did it all cost you to replace the battery? I am looking forward to replacing mine too.
About $35. I got a kit with tools and a new battery off ifixit. I got an OEM back off ebay, figuring I'd probably crack it talking it off, but ended up not needing it.
Yeah should have been banned before honor 8 release, then many early adopters wouldn't have been conned into buying their crap device.
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Yeah should have been banned before honor 8 release, then many early adopters wouldn't have been conned into buying their crap device.
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what really stings yet makes me laugh is that this device is treble compatible and has not custom ROMs other than the openkirin stuff. other devices are able to boot tons of GSIs but not the honor 8.
im happy that i dont have to deal with EMUI but honestly, omniROM is that much better of a ROM. im sure huawei will work something out eventually but i just hope that their reputation is bombed to hell at least here in north america. maybe they will go back to using snapdragons for us which will give us tons of ROMs and a longer usage life.
They're not going to start using SoCs developed by a third party when they make their own.
Hi there, I am looking for a way to force update android 10 to my P20 Pro, Its the CLT-L29 version currently with build number 9.1.0.383 and I bought it in Pakistan, updates here seems to take quite a while as compared to other places. Also, I am facing some issues with Bluetooth connection with my car speakers. Hopefully, the update might solve my problem. Would be grateful for any help
There is no update for emui 10 CLT-L29 ATM online. Version on firmware finder is only available for india region
The EMUI 10 (Android 10) beta program got closed some months ago. So we have to wait for the official rollout in march/april.
I'm part of the beta-program and already using Android 10 (10.0.0.145 C432). I can confirm that all Bluetooth issues I had before are gone. Especially with car Bluetooth (there was a lot of stuttering with Android 8 and 9).
My second Phone honor 20 lite get the New update (Android 10/emui 10) and the flagship is waiting........
No more Huawei for me unfortunately. While it is a good phone, updates are not existent. Android 11 is coming out next month and we're still on 9. LOL.
chefnoob said:
No more Huawei for me unfortunately. While it is a good phone, updates are not existent. Android 11 is coming out next month and we're still on 9. LOL.
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I am the same opinion!
Besides, Huawei leaves out P20 series from 10.1 update.
Absolutely my next phone one+ 8 pro
F*ck huawei, you killed my p20 pro!
its bad phone ever ! never buy again !
I really love my P20 Pro, but the Updates... I remember to go to 9 with the modded hisuite because my phone did not get the update.
Without the Google Services its anyway not useful for my to stay with huawai, but because of the bad updates and support my next phone will not be a Huawai.
And i will look for a phone with updates min 3-4 years, is there a phone with that support?
MeisterGigi said:
And i will look for a phone with updates min 3-4 years, is there a phone with that support?
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3-4 years you will get only with an iPhone.
arty_a said:
3-4 years you will get only with an iPhone.
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Thats really a pity. To be honest i have an iphone (11) from my company, but i dont like it, i like android. mhm.
MeisterGigi said:
Thats really a pity. To be honest i have an iphone (11) from my company, but i dont like it, i like android. mhm.
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That is not exactly true.
PIXEL phones are updated for 3 years. That is according to Google's support page.
Following that, your only option is get a popular unlockable phone and install Lineage OS. This gives you longer support.
Your options here are basically Motorola or OnePlus.
Huawei likely would have survived its anti-consumer change in bootloader unlocking stance and slow software rollout alone. However, coupled with Trumps war on Huawei, I expect them to pull a HTC and drop down to irrelevancy within a couple years.
I bought a P20 Pro because I had owned the Nexus 6P, which was the best smart phone I have ever owned. Had I not dropped it into water after after cracking the screen, I would still use it since it is far more usable that the EMUI infected P20.
I cannot imagine any situation where I would buy another Huawei product after this phone.
It is a pity. They may lovely hardware. EMUI is simply this ****tiest software to ever been placed on a phone. I would say even original touchwiz was less annoying.
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That is not exactly true.
PIXEL phones are updated for 3 years. That is according to Google's support page.
Following that, your only option is get...
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Wow, i also came from a 6P, things were very easy there... I dont understand huaweis bootloader war :/
I think i will use my p20 one more year, then i will hope there are some good phones on the market
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3-4 years you will get only with an iPhone.
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+free hardware throttle becouse of "battery saving" :laugh::laugh::laugh: I would never buy anything from this money thirsty company. Overpriced AF
camera function on EMUI 8 is better than EMUI 9. Hope it will come back in EMUI 10.
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+free hardware throttle becouse of "battery saving" :laugh::laugh::laugh: I would never buy anything from this money thirsty company. Overpriced AF
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The times in which only iPhones were overpriced are gone. There's no mich difference between the android flagship devices and iPhones nowadays.
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The times in which only iPhones were overpriced are gone. There's no mich difference between the android flagship devices and iPhones nowadays.
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At least Apple actually updates their software for several years. Unlikely ****ty Huawei or Samsung.
Spend a thousand bucks and get two years max of support. Or spend 1k with apple and get 5.
Seems like a better deal to spend 1k every 5 years than 1k every 2.
Of course, no one would actually spend that much on a Huawei so the carriers need to massively slash the price.
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At least Apple actually updates their software for several years. Unlikely ****ty Huawei or Samsung.
Spend a thousand bucks and get two years max of support. Or spend 1k with apple and get 5.
Seems like a better deal to spend 1k every 5 years than 1k every 2.
Of course, no one would actually spend that much on a Huawei so the carriers need to massively slash the price.
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In fact spend 400 on the SE 2 and get 5 years of updates. I'm seriously considering it as my next phone, I know people bash the looks of it but I loved my 6s and genuinely don't have an issue with it.
I do like my P20 Pro but the lack of updates (even security ones are slow) is just pathetic. I'd go for OnePlus but even they're expensive these days.
Emui 10
There is emui 10 for Europe in firmware finder
Goovsky said:
There is emui 10 for Europe in firmware finder
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It's for C675, like older versions of EMUI 10
Is there any chance for Redmi Note 9 Pro Global to get Miui 12 soon ?
I know many people are sick and tired of questions like this but we users are also sick and tired of waiting.
Nobody's giving any date and we must assume that Redmi (Xiaomi) really doesn't know either.
This may very well effect my decision to buy or not to buy a Xiaomi phone next time.
And they shouldn't trust the numbers now telling that Xiaomi is the #3 phone manufacturer... That will change if they do this kind of sloppy things to users who trusted their seamless upgrade policy !
Period.
Why do you want Miui12? Miui11 works perfect.
228as091215t said:
Why do you want Miui12? Miui11 works perfect.
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Really?
But why was 12 invented then?
Why do we get (or don't) a new version every year?
Why is there a new Android every year?
Why are there new phone models every year?
Perfect?
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At least... There it is.
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miui 12 will arrive, you just have to be patient. Xiaomi makes so many phones and it is difficult to have an optimized operating system for all devices
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miui 12 will arrive, you just have to be patient. Xiaomi makes so many phones and it is difficult to have an optimized operating system for all devices
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It arrived. But with gaps in the system. Some previous functionality doesn't work, it's only a stabile beta, incremental 683 MB.
To whom it may concern;
Regarding to the "so many phones..." argument I would like to to say :
1. Obviously not my fault. Wasn't my decision to create a new model every week and flood the market.
2. Nobody told me that I had to stay in a line to get updates in the ads before I bought my device. Is it even my device? Do I own it? I'm not sure. Because I have to beg and stay (again) in line for hundreds of hours just to bypass the bootloader lock. So, did I buy it or did Xiaomi lend me the device so that I can use it under the conditions Xiaomi imposes on me?
3. If you earn money from stuff you gotta invest in product support too. Not only making easy money and run.
4. If you combine socialism and capitalism, the only ones being hurt are the people. And that's even worse than pure capitalism itself if you care about socialism.
5. Getting #3 globally isn't something to be proud of. That can change any moment if you hurt the PEOPLE, no matter which nationality... Beware.
6. Treat people like USERS and not as a bunch of naive, stupid FANS or CONSUMERS.
Regards.
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