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Must watch.
http://mblog.gsmarena.com/galaxy-note-3-faces-canon-5d-mark-iii-video-comparison/
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Must watch.
http://mblog.gsmarena.com/galaxy-note-3-faces-canon-5d-mark-iii-video-comparison/
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Very interesting indeed. Still haven't bothered capturing at 4k as I don't have a display to do it justice. Might start recording and archive so come the time for a new TV I have some bright sharp memories to view.
I spend a full 20 minutes staring and laughing hysterically at the thread title. :laugh: Thought it was about photo's, as opposed to video. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Wasn't expecting that from the Note 3, actually. Not bad at all, for such a tiny sensor.
Honestly though, comparing 4K against 1080p? Even if you downsize, that's an unfair comparison as 4K records more data than 1080p at the raw source. It's like shooting in Jpeg directly, or converting a RAWfile to Jpeg. (Which only makes sense if you know photography.)
I am, however, in doubt. An old classmate of mine shoots entire films with his 5D MKIII, and the quality is significantly better than what we're seeing in the video.
ShadowLea said:
I spend a full 20 minutes staring and laughing hysterically at the thread title. :laugh: Thought it was about photo's, as opposed to video. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Wasn't expecting that from the Note 3, actually. Not bad at all, for such a tiny sensor.
Honestly though, comparing 4K against 1080p? Even if you downsize, that's an unfair comparison as 4K records more data than 1080p at the raw source. It's like shooting in Jpeg directly, or converting a RAWfile to Jpeg. (Which only makes sense if you know photography.)
I am, however, in doubt. An old classmate of mine shoots entire films with his 5D MKIII, and the quality is significantly better than what we're seeing in the video.
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I'm sorry but you're wrong, the comparison is as valid as any comparison between 2 devices. It would be like saying you can't compare benchmarks between Note 3 and GS5, because GS 5 has CPU running at higher frequency.
The fact is Note 3 can record 4k video out of the box and can record higher resolution, sharper video, than any DSLR currently on the market, period. Of course those were done in full sun/ good light, in low light Canon would win hands down. You could also see blown highlights in Note 3 video, but never the less our phone has excellent video recording capabilities I bet a lot of people are not even aware off and you have to remember Canon 5D mark III has probably one of the best video recording capabilities among DSLR and was used in quiet few commercial video recordings you see on TV. Even thought some people dismiss this as useless gimmick, it was one of the reasons I got Note 3 and I record all video in 4k, mostly of my kids, for the future memories. Right now none of my computers can play 4k video smoothly and I don't even have 4k display yet, but all this will be rectified before end of this year. Funny thing is, it is Samsung pushing the envelope, where the hell is Sony, commercial and consumer video leader?
arhhh the Pixel Myth.... Just like the Megahertz Myth! Bigger numbers doesn't always mean better. The N3 is a complete waste of time in low light despite being able to record @ 4k. I'd like to have seen the guy walking around (camera movement) with both devices as this would have shown which device was better when watching both playbacks.
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arhhh the Pixel Myth.... Just like the Megahertz Myth! Bigger numbers doesn't always mean better. The N3 is a complete waste of time in low light despite being able to record @ 4k. I'd like to have seen the guy walking around (camera movement) with both devices as this would have shown which device was better when watching both playbacks.
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Apparently you didn't see the video comparison, which clearly shows Note 3 video is much sharper, even on low resolution screen and apparently you never looked at benchmarks, clearly showing that everything else being equal, phone running at higher GHz will run faster most of the time, otherwise you wouldn't call it a myth. As far as low light goes, every camera sucks, it just a matter of how little is not enough. Canon 5d has full size sensor, which is almost as big as half width of the phone and this size sensor could not be fitted in a small phone and forget about optics required, never the less, with huge handicap in sensor size, much, much lower price and basic optics, Note 3 is competitive in good light. In low light it is much worse, but if you ever went to the movie set, just about half of the equipment is lights to improve exposure and they have cameras costing more than most people house, so yeah, good light is required for all cameras if you want good video.
Will i get the most out of its camera in comparison with other phones priced at the same level ?
If you have shaky hands, and you want great quality video and 4k, I definitely recommend getting Oneplus 3. Without ois, you can barely have clear pictures at night, but with Oneplus 3 you can get even with 1/2 shutter speed. In the Honor 8 the 1080p video looks like 720p, and the software stabilisation makes the quality even worse.
I notice on alot of videos on youutbe on 4K 60fps.
It is like a smeary coating over the picture in movies that makes the picture look not so sharp and also artifical when watchning it on larger screen. Also when the camara moves it gets unsharp. Look at this video on a larger screen.
Look on the ground in 7:30 and you see much more details in the P20 Pro video, and also the overall sharpness. There must be some kind of possiblity to fix, because Oneplus 3/3T have sharper videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=453&v=METsHUyaXGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=O7c8Q-jizU4
I read somewhere that the unsharp artificial tint(?) is becuase of that the software im the camera have problem hadnling the grayscale(?).
Also the picture in the movies are oversaturaed and dosnt feel natural, just look at this video when they compare OP6 to Iphone X(6:58 in video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzq5...utu.be&t=6m58s
I really hope the Oneplus could fix this in an update
Or is it possible that the gcam might handle this better?
Hi I've still got my note 9 till the jiffy bag come for it and next to my note 10 plus when watching the same hdr video on both displays the note 9 seems to get quite a bit brighter is this something to do with note 10 calibration as I thought the note 10 was the brighter display
Thanks
Yes, the Note 10 plus display was tested and beat the Note 9 in every category. It is currently ranked the number one display in all smart phones.
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Yes, the Note 10 plus display was tested and beat the Note 9 in every category. It is currently ranked the number one display in all smart phones.
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How come when side by side when watching the same video the note 9 seems alot brighter with both phones having the same settings ect
I've done this and it seems a bit better just the note 9 seems more vivid and brighter on videos am I right in assuming it's the way the note 10 is calabrated?
Just watching hdr videos on youtube the note 9 definitely brighter and more punchy side by side but both in the setting menu ect they both seem equal (maybe the note 9 slightly brighter)
Is there a reason for this of might I have a defect I'm thinking it maybe something to do with Samsung removing more of the blue light in the dynamic amoled and been calibrated differently
Just want some confirmation before I send my note 9 back to samsung lol does anyone still have there note 9 to compare
Many thanks
Right just had both displays with adaptive brightness Same setting ect and shines a light to them both and the note 10 definitely get brighter then the note 9 so I'm assuming the dimmer video on youtube ect is down to Samsung going for a more natural look
Just hope in the future they bring back adaptive setting so we can have the more punchy colours because vivid isnt a patch on adaptive setting on the note 9:silly:
Note9 vivid is on by default. Note10 is normal by default
Then you have to add you may "unlocked" the last 10% of the Note9 for brightness and You didn't with the Note10.
My Note10 is about the same brightness than my Note9 fresh out of the box both is vivid and normal mode. I didn't unlock the last 10%
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Note9 vivid is on by default. Note10 is normal by default
Then you have to add you may "unlocked" the last 10% of the Note9 for brightness and You didn't with the Note10.
My Note10 is about the same brightness than my Note9 fresh out of the box both is vivid and normal mode. I didn't unlock the last 10%
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I've put both phones in performance mode put the note 9 in adaptive mode and the note 10 in vivid
The note 9 is still brighter and more vivid in videos compared to my note 10 I think it's the whole "natural" look samsung is going for I briefly had the xperia 1 and that was the same next tom my note 9
Just seem a little washed out the note 10 next to the note 9
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I've put both phones in performance mode put the note 9 in adaptive mode and the note 10 in vivid
The note 9 is still brighter and more vivid in videos compared to my note 10 I think it's the whole "natural" look samsung is going for I briefly had the xperia 1 and that was the same next tom my note 9
Just seem a little washed out the note 10 next to the note 9
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Hi mate, well it's seems its not only mine note 10 plus it's a little bit washed in color, I bought in the beginning of this month, make all the updates, inclusive android 10 and reset after, my note 9 too android 10 and reset, and start comparing both, and notice the screen looks better in note 9, I even go to store to compare to others news, and it's the same, it's seems more vivid and accurate, both with QHD and note 10 plus seems in FHD, but that it's not the major problem, its the blacks, but only in low light, I noticed low light note 9 are more blacks, and note 10 are more dark grey, I don't know if it is because the screen is more bright outdoors or need a update, or dinamic amoled Is very different from super amoled, note 10 don't have the option of adaptive display, could be one of the reasons.
I,m using yet the note note9, because I was thinking in trade for a new one.
Do you still have both phones?
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Hi mate, well it's seems its not only mine note 10 plus it's a little bit washed in color, I bought in the beginning of this month, make all the updates, inclusive android 10 and reset after, my note 9 too android 10 and reset, and start comparing both, and notice the screen looks better in note 9, I even go to store to compare to others news, and it's the same, it's seems more vivid and accurate, both with QHD and note 10 plus seems in FHD, but that it's not the major problem, its the blacks, but only in low light, I noticed low light note 9 are more blacks, and note 10 are more dark grey, I don't know if it is because the screen is more bright outdoors or need a update, or dinamic amoled Is very different from super amoled, note 10 don't have the option of adaptive display, could be one of the reasons.
I,m using yet the note note9, because I was thinking in trade for a new one.
Do you still have both phones?
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Hi I dont have the note 9 no more but I've compared the note 10 plus to the missues iPhone 11 pro max and the iphone seems to be the brighter display and the whites on the iphone are incredible (just my opinion)
It really shows when playing hdr via youtube the iphone display crushes my note 10 in terms of brightness and colours popping
Not sure why I've tried tweaking around but the display just doesnt compare
I personally think it's something to do with the blue light filter samsung added to there dynamic panels and possible loading adaptive display mode didn't help lol
I'd still chose my note over the iPhone though
Hi to all ?
First of all I have P30 Pro, and last my 2 phones was Mate 20cand P20 Pro. Because thay all are great phones and great camera. So I search new phone with much better camera, don't get me wrong P30 Pro is best in the market for photography but not for video. So I'm searching something good for both. The only thing what can it be is Mate 30 Pro (that what was I aspect).
But in the beginning wierd thing is, they put just Ultra wide angle camera for videography. (this phone spouses to have best video camera, Huawei said that. Every day in every news you can read this). So they put in Mate 30 Pro special sensor for videography. That's sounds good, but results is not good at all. And they put the smallest "ultra wide angle camera in market for now"!!! Sorry DXO Mark, I can't agree with you this time.
I will post some videos down and I will like to hear your comments.
P. S. I know this is not final software on M30P, and I hope someone will make again new video comparison after final software.
1. Mate 30 Pro vs IPhone 11
2. Mate 30 Pro vs P30 Pro
After these videos I really don't know what to say... ? M30P is very good phone, but camera is even not better then P30 Pro.
I would wait until the phone has been released to the public to make allegations. It's hard when only peeps on YouTube have review devices.
I agree with you completely. I've been waiting for this phone to trade my P30 pro for 2 major reasons....the video quality and the damn color balance.
Unfortunately BOTH will not be addressed. Video quality looks on par with flagships now (especially considering with shooting at a much wider field of view) but at the sacrifice of ultra wide angle!! 18mm? seriously? People need ultra wide angle to capture MORE and they they reducing it from 16mm to 18 mm here!
Also the same sensor without color corrections means I'm stuck with the same color inconsistencies like on my P30 pro. White balance is a joke and 3/4 pics are different, skin tones all unnatural and heavy.
I was seriously planning on sourcing this but as you said, it is by no means king of Camera and far from DXO high horse ratings.
...and I still don't know why they never added auto HDR
The mate 30 pro released early than Huawei expected, most of those early reviews on YouTube are not final version, Dxomark had the latest close to final build installed, according to Huawei CEO thats not the final version, let see the future update... I'll say wait for P40 if you looking for camera big improvement that's what P series focused.
Actually, P series is always the master of camera. Then Mate series. if you want better camera, wait for p40 pro, want better quality and performance, buy mate 30 pro
i just watched the dxomark youtube mate 30 pro video. video quality was very high compare to youtubers . there was a compare in 5lux with note 10 plus. it was clear the winner was mate 30 pro. maybe it needs some patch to software. lets see the final product software then talk. Huawei claimed mate 30 pro it is best in video.
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i just watched the dxomark youtube mate 30 pro video. video quality was very high compare to youtubers . there was a compare in 5lux with note 10 plus. it was clear the winner was mate 30 pro. maybe it needs some patch to software. lets see the final product software then talk. Huawei claimed mate 30 pro it is best in video.
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Yes in low light, but video is not so good like Samsung. It have problem with dinamic range, like phones with 300 eur price.
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Yes in low light, but video is not so good like Samsung. It have problem with dinamic range, like phones with 300 eur price.
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Agreed. They just can't do video well
Video better after updates. Can't see choppines while panning left and right anymore
Agreed, video recording seems miles better than what I got from before. I've already had 4 system updates since unboxing the phone last week.
isko01 said:
Hi to all ?
First of all I have P30 Pro, and last my 2 phones was Mate 20cand P20 Pro. Because thay all are great phones and great camera. So I search new phone with much better camera, don't get me wrong P30 Pro is best in the market for photography but not for video. So I'm searching something good for both. The only thing what can it be is Mate 30 Pro (that what was I aspect).
But in the beginning wierd thing is, they put just Ultra wide angle camera for videography. (this phone spouses to have best video camera, Huawei said that. Every day in every news you can read this). So they put in Mate 30 Pro special sensor for videography. That's sounds good, but results is not good at all. And they put the smallest "ultra wide angle camera in market for now"!!! Sorry DXO Mark, I can't agree with you this time.
I will post some videos down and I will like to hear your comments.
P. S. I know this is not final software on M30P, and I hope someone will make again new video comparison after final software.
1. Mate 30 Pro vs IPhone 11
2. Mate 30 Pro vs P30 Pro
After these videos I really don't know what to say... ? M30P is very good phone, but camera is even not better then P30 Pro.
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I ditched my P30 Pro for the Note 10 the moment they announced the Mate 30 Pro and confirmed that it will have an RYYB sensor.
The color science is god awful on this sensor, it's way inconsistent, and makes the skin of my kids look pale and dull. My Mate 20 Pro took much better pictures, with vibrant pleasing colors. The night mode on the P30 Pro was also useless, due to the RYYB sensor, the phone would try to correct the colors and 10/10 times, I'll have a green cast all over my pictures.
Even with Google play services, and a much cheaper price, I wouldn't have got this phone, no more RYYB sensors for me.
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I ditched my P30 Pro for the Note 10 the moment they announced the Mate 30 Pro and confirmed that it will have an RYYB sensor.
The color science is god awful on this sensor, it's way inconsistent, and makes the skin of my kids look pale and dull. My Mate 20 Pro took much better pictures, with vibrant pleasing colors. The night mode on the P30 Pro was also useless, due to the RYYB sensor, the phone would try to correct the colors and 10/10 times, I'll have a green cast all over my pictures.
Even with Google play services, and a much cheaper price, I wouldn't have got this phone, no more RYYB sensors for me.
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Same to me. I sell my P30 Pro. Really I can't believe my self. But it was very good price. And I buy Note 10 Plus. I didn't regret. Camera us much better in daylight and indoors. But in no low light but no problem for that, Gcam can fix it
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Same to me. I sell my P30 Pro. Really I can't believe my self. But it was very good price. And I buy Note 10 Plus. I didn't regret. Camera us much better in daylight and indoors. But in no low light but no problem for that, Gcam can fix it
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Nothing can beat the P30 Pro and Mate 30 Pro in complete darkness, but honestly, how many times do you take pictures in extremely dim areas? It was a fun trick to try the 1st few days after buying the P30 Pro, but then it was something that I barely used.
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Nothing can beat the P30 Pro and Mate 30 Pro in complete darkness, but honestly, how many times do you take pictures in extremely dim areas? It was a fun trick to try the 1st few days after buying the P30 Pro, but then it was something that I barely used.
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Yap, thats is it.
Is red tint problem(in low light) + light bulb artifact has been fixed?
Tint+Color shift+Artifact are problem since P30pro using RYYB.
I'm very confused why they still use RYYB If they can't fix it
https://www.gsmarena.com/mate_30_pro_vs_iphone_11_pro_vs_galaxy_note10_camera_compare-news-39381.php
You just posted 2 videos as evidence while ignoring alot of other videos out there. BiG bRaIn move right here.
-Green cast only ocurred if you used nightmode, the thing is you get the same result minus green cast with full automode.
-Color Science its way better than the Mate 20 pro.
Having owned both and since updates have arrived it's 100% better than all those phones.
Now I have both Mate 30 pro & Note 10+.. So far I noticed that the mate 30 pro doesn't have auto focus on front cam, my face gets blurry when I take a selfie at a distance of below 50cm from the phone. It sucks for me, or maybe bec I already get used with my Note 10+ which gives me more detail on selfie either close up or not. Why Huawei never fixed it since P30 Pro I think or even earlier.
I'm impressed with the 7680 frames per second in Slow motion video.
Very impressed with the overall photography and video capture of my M30P.
Weekly updates almost once every week on my CN M30P just make it better and better. I have a strong feeling it blows the stock firmware out of the water too.