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On the back of my box it says the front camera is VGA, but it looks much higher resolution.
What do you think?
The resolution it takes the pictures in are vga and it shows
Yeah give credit to the screen.. just like the iphone.. the video recording looks so vibrant and rich via playback but when you upload them, they are a bit fuzzy and degraded in quality.
Hey all,
Here's a pretty cool macro DSLR effect I discovered the other day. FINALLY a use for 4K video resolution!
All you have to do when in video mode is select 4k (3840 × 2160) and zoom in 4x. When close to a subject tap to focus as usual and you may be shocked that the image suddenly has crazy depth of field but still remains sharp.
The reason? The camera module has an aperture of f/2.2 which is great, but that's not the real clincher. 4K UHD has 8,294,400 pixels in a frame. Just to give you an idea 1080p is only 2,073,600 pixels. So basically, when you zoom in 4x, your image still looks great. No other phone camera can do this in 2013.
Big deal, SO WHAT? you may be thinking. Well the results CLEARLY speak for themselves..
Happy shooting!
James Harrison said:
Hey all,
Here's a pretty cool macro DSLR effect I discovered the other day. FINALLY a use for 4K video resolution!
All you have to do when in video mode is select 4k (3840 × 2160) and zoom in 4x. When close to a subject tap to focus as usual and you may be shocked that the image suddenly has crazy depth of field but still remains sharp.
The reason? The camera module has an aperture of f/2.2 which is great, but that's not the real clincher. 4K UHD has 8,294,400 pixels in a frame. Just to give you an idea 1080p is only 2,073,600 pixels. So basically, when you zoom in 4x, your image still looks great. No other phone camera can do this in 2013.
Big deal, SO WHAT? you may be thinking. Well the results CLEARLY speak for themselves..
Happy shooting!
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Are you saying that if you record in 1080p mode and framed the shot exactly the same, that the depth of field would not be the same? I'm confused?
I understand the merits of 4K recording, but I don't see how the depth of field would be affected.
WOW! Cant believe all that comes from the small lens sensor of Note 3
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Maverick777 said:
Are you saying that if you record in 1080p mode and framed the shot exactly the same, that the depth of field would not be the same? I'm confused?
I understand the merits of 4K recording, but I don't see how the depth of field would be affected.
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I probably should have explained this better but you can't really frame the same shot in 1080p because you'd be way too close to the subject for the camera to even attempt to focus on it. 4k allows much more flexibility for macro shots.
And do you have a 4K display to see this awesomeness?
Otherwise you're just watching it at 1080p lol.
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I probably should have explained this better but you can't really frame the same shot in 1080p because you'd be way too close to the subject for the camera to even attempt to focus on it. 4k allows much more flexibility for macro shots.
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Now I'm curious how 4K video zoomed in 4x downscaled to 1080p compares to 1080p video zoomed in 4x. I wonder if Samsung is using software zooming to enlarge the video image or cropping the sensor to achieve the field of view. If it's software zoom then there's obviously going to be a loss in quality. But if it's simply cropping the sensor there should be no difference. And it fact it'd be a waste of time and memory space to shoot in 4k zoomed to 4x and then having to downscale it to 1080p afterwards. That would add unnecessary steps for editing. Also, in 1080p mode you have access to the software video stabilization while in 4k mode you don't.
it's not about the resolution lol. think putting on different DSLR lenses for your phone.
great find, OP! will be trying this soon
4k works with approx 50% more colours than normal 1080p. Even if you dont have a tv to warch it in full res, a 4k clip will look and FEEL rather different than everything else.
The clip in the above link is done with a little bit of postproduction. Indeed its impressing and there is more to be discovered.
_madness haven't any rest, only swet_
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And do you have a 4K display to see this awesomeness?
Otherwise you're just watching it at 1080p lol.
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lol, it's not about the resolution. it's kinda like being able to use different lenses for your note 3.
great find, OP. thanks!
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Now I'm curious how 4K video zoomed in 4x downscaled to 1080p compares to 1080p video zoomed in 4x. I wonder if Samsung is using software zooming to enlarge the video image or cropping the sensor to achieve the field of view. If it's software zoom then there's obviously going to be a loss in quality. But if it's simply cropping the sensor there should be no difference. And it fact it'd be a waste of time and memory space to shoot in 4k zoomed to 4x and then having to downscale it to 1080p afterwards. That would add unnecessary steps for editing. Also, in 1080p mode you have access to the software video stabilization while in 4k mode you don't.
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Cropping a sensor of say a 35mm legs by 1.6 doesn't give you a 56mm zoom perspective. You're still getting a relatively wide angle shot but simply cropped.
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Cropping a sensor of say a 35mm legs by 1.6 doesn't give you a 56mm zoom perspective. You're still getting a relatively wide angle shot but simply cropped.
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I understand that. However, in this instance is 1080p mode on the Note 3 simply cropping the sensor to begin with? My question in relation to the OP is if you shoot at 4K mode, zoom in a 4X, is the phone simply cropping the sensor 4x to give you a lossless zoom? Or it is using some type of software pixel binning to give you the zoomed in view? Or perhaps a combination of both.
And how does that compare to shooting in 1080p mode with the 4x zoom?
I took a few sample videos sitting at my desk and to my naked eye viewing both videos on the Note 3's screen, there is 0 difference between shooting at 4K resolution with a 4x zoom and shooting at 1080p at 4x zoom other than the file size. The field of view is identical. I'm looking to see if there's any advantage at the end of the day if I want to end up with a 1080p file as the end product. Is there any advantage to shooting the same field of view at 4K and downscaling?
The 4x zoom when shooting at 4K did not give me a distance advantage versus shooting 1080p at 4x zoom. The phone remained at the same distance as my subject when framing the shot with the same field of view. So for macro video shots, I do not appear to have any advantage when shooting at 4K.
Epic and very well done video!
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I probably should have explained this better but you can't really frame the same shot in 1080p because you'd be way too close to the subject for the camera to even attempt to focus on it. 4k allows much more flexibility for macro shots.
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I think what he's saying is that no matter of 1080p or 4k, distance and senzor pixels are the same, therefore theoretically you shouldn't necessarily have to do 4k to do such zooming. Question is: in effect does zooming in 1080p still record lossless as far as the sensor goes (13mil pixels), or zooming in 1080p only zooms into the 1080p capture (magnifies the 2mil pixels).
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I understand that. However, in this instance is 1080p mode on the Note 3 simply cropping the sensor to begin with? My question in relation to the OP is if you shoot at 4K mode, zoom in a 4X, is the phone simply cropping the sensor 4x to give you a lossless zoom? Or it is using some type of software pixel binning to give you the zoomed in view? Or perhaps a combination of both.
And how does that compare to shooting in 1080p mode with the 4x zoom?
I took a few sample videos sitting at my desk and to my naked eye viewing both videos on the Note 3's screen, there is 0 difference between shooting at 4K resolution with a 4x zoom and shooting at 1080p at 4x zoom other than the file size. The field of view is identical. I'm looking to see if there's any advantage at the end of the day if I want to end up with a 1080p file as the end product. Is there any advantage to shooting the same field of view at 4K and downscaling?
The 4x zoom when shooting at 4K did not give me a distance advantage versus shooting 1080p at 4x zoom. The phone remained at the same distance as my subject when framing the shot with the same field of view. So for macro video shots, I do not appear to have any advantage when shooting at 4K.
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I think what he's saying is that no matter of 1080p or 4k, distance and senzor pixels are the same, therefore theoretically you shouldn't necessarily have to do 4k to do such zooming. Question is: in effect does zooming in 1080p still record lossless as far as the sensor goes (13mil pixels), or zooming in 1080p only zooms into the 1080p capture (magnifies the 2mil pixels).
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I just assumed that zooming in ALWAYS "magnified" the pixels so you'd naturally just get sharper detail with the 4k mode. I now understand my error with the field of view though (I tried it out myself too)
I guess the main thing to take home is the amount of detail you're getting from this phone's sensor.
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Xiaomi Mi 5 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
My only complaint of this nice piece of gear is the video recording feature.
There is no [email protected] recording option. Even the recording quality in good light conditons at 30fps (1080p) is not smooth and really choppy
Have not see any advantage of the 4axis OIS future.
Hope to see developers that can fix this issiue with software updates.
I think the best video recording quality has the Samsung Galaxy S6/S7/Note series and the Iphone 6/6s line.
Hope to see other opinions and good nwes
skyhan01 said:
My only complaint of this nice piece of gear is the video recording feature.
There is no [email protected] recording option. Even the recording quality in good light conditons at 30fps (1080p) is not smooth and really choppy
Have not see any advantage of the 4axis OIS future.
Hope to see developers that can fix this issiue with software updates.
I think the best video recording quality has the Samsung Galaxy S6/S7/Note series and the Iphone 6/6s line.
Hope to see other opinions and good nwes
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Keep dreaming!!! You should have thrown your cash at the other phones instead.
Guys, I keep seeing constant complains and whining about this phone and yet the only person to blame is your self. Read the god damn reviews !!!!!
all reviews point that video recording is just ok, nothing great... OIS is almost non-existent...
no software update will fix that...
read more carefully next time
yorikkk said:
all reviews point that video recording is just ok, nothing great... OIS is almost non-existent...
no software update will fix that...
read more carefully next time
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It has a great video recording quality for it's price. OIS and auto-focus is better than the more expensive flagship op3.
watch?v=Z8H5kOnryEo
OIS is clearly there, try recording while driving a motorcycle. There will be no, or at least minimal, glowy images as in non-OIS enabled devices. Color rendering is still the best, S7 and 6S is behind for this one. Lighting is natural, however you may prefer S7's "always daylight" choice (i.e., it will show bright light even in dark environment), but that's completely preference. I choose natural. Slow motion is great, even if only single [email protected] choice (slowed down 4x from 120fps) I found it very useful to record fast motion videos to see it later in detail.
this is the worst think in this device
it cant shoot a good video
get a lot off blurry result every time video
For me its 75/100.
Miui makes it complicated to chenge to 4k, fullhd slow-mo quickly. Timelapse feature is great. There were problems with rotation for camera but software update solved them. So it is not great but nice to see they are improving littlle by little.
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Google Pixel XL come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
So far I'm highly impressed with the video quality. Comparing the 4k to Samsung for instance they both take really good quality videos. (and huge videos). But the fact that the Image Stabilization on this blows away the competition and it's SOFTWARE based is INSANE. One of the first things I did after I got the phone set up was to walk upstairs while filming 4k and then quickly moving back down them and the optical stabilization (although it gets slightly bumpy on the way down from how fast I was moving) it was the best I've ever seen on any phone.
Link to stairs video: https://goo.gl/photos/nzou3EhDnm96vbAe8
Video in low light is practically useless with so much noise
video comparison vs popular phones
The news today says Google will fix the one thing annoying me. The Halo Effect
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The news today says Google will fix the one thing annoying me. The Halo Effect
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I have not had any halo effect, seems like I am in the minority
This is a video of Metallica Concert in San Juan, PR, 10/26/16. The video is supposed to be 4k but only shows up at youtube as a 1080p, not sure why.
https://youtu.be/jinJAzYQsKA
why 6p video quality in low light is better than pixel?
http://www.gsmarena.com/vidcmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=8345&idPhone2=7260&idPhone3=7588
and
http://www.gsmarena.com/vidcmp.php3?idType=5&idCamera1=300333&idCamera2=300332&idCamera3=300288
I'm impressed
Video quality in 4K with anything other than direct sunlight is pretty disappointing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X0mzZsaJOM&feature=youtu.be
When you go indoors the quality goes down tremendously.
Here is a quick comparison I did between the Pixel XL and the Nexus 6:
Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWhoCGFh_JA
Pixel XL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dwmw33M98
The desk area looks fine, but looking around the room the quality is horrible.
Sorry to link to reddit, but I mainly post on reddit.
I also made a comparison of the videos in low light. Here is the thread if you guys are interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel...eo_quality_is/
I just feel like the more information out there on this issue the better.
So far in test videos the mic sounds really muffled.
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When you go indoors the quality goes down tremendously.
Here is a quick comparison I did between the Pixel XL and the Nexus 6:
Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWhoCGFh_JA
Pixel XL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dwmw33M98
The desk area looks fine, but looking around the room the quality is horrible.
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What were the settings on both cameras for each video?
Took a video at night low light conditions
Looks like a white bug on the video .
But it's just noise from the camera not a bug.
Tried again Dave enjoy bug thinking about getting unit replaced.
Has anyone else noticed this effect?
It bounces stuff on screen when I'm recording.
My wife's low light video (S8 Plus) and daughters 7 Plus) crap on my Pixel XL.
Guys, is anybody annoyed with the twitchy autofocus? I was shooting on S7, ois was not comparable with Pixel's eis, but autofocus was 100% accurate and lightning fast, you won't be able to notice it working. What's wrong with Pixel's AF? Is it curable?
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Guys, is anybody annoyed with the twitchy autofocus? I was shooting on S7, ois was not comparable with Pixel's eis, but autofocus was 100% accurate and lightning fast, you won't be able to notice it working. What's wrong with Pixel's AF? Is it curable?
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I'm wondering the same thing.
I came from a Nexus 6P and the video on the latter was just brilliant!!! Specifically to low light video, it was crystal clear!!! I do a lot of metal shows records and this is very big for me...
The minute I got the XL, tried a low light video record, wow, what a disappointment!!! The video in low light and even in mid light, has a sort of smudge, like grey halo or if lens are not clean up and adding to that there's a lot of noise in the video. I did not record anything from concerts, but I'm very apprehensive... I did not expected this... not after having a 6P and knowing that this phone is one year more recent than the 6P.
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When you go indoors the quality goes down tremendously.
Here is a quick comparison I did between the Pixel XL and the Nexus 6:
Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWhoCGFh_JA
Pixel XL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dwmw33M98
The desk area looks fine, but looking around the room the quality is horrible.
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I just saw this and this is the exact problem that I experience when recording in low light!!!
I also learned on google products forums, that using a 3rd party app to record video, using a different ratio/resolution can help a lot!!!
For instance, with Open Camera, if recording a video in 1440x1080 resolution (it stays at a 4:3 ratio, the same aspect when taking a photo at 12.3 MPixel) then the recording is so much better!!! The bad of Google Camera is that it's not possible to change in between many video recording resolutions. Also, in Google Camera, 4K video recording is a little better than 1080p, because it doesn't have the grey/smudge halo.
If only knew this and my 6P didn't had the battery shutoff problem, I wouldn't never get a XL !!!!
The video recording is pretty good, I usually record at 720p60 and even though it's not the sharpest video I've ever seen, it's decent.
Though at 4K it looks great, but I don't see a big improvement from the Nexus 5X which I come from.
I have watch a lot of videos recorded by Oneplus 6 and I have notice a very dusturbing thing that isnt on previous models, as long as the camera is still the picture is really sharp but when moving everything in the picture gets blurry, It isnt sharp at all.... Why? And can it be fixed?
I dont know if there is something with the autofocus, because it is like it loose the focus all the time.
Here is an example(the problem is much easier to see on a larger screen, montior, tv)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3fQZwPlc-E