Question Timer app - Samsung Galaxy Watch 4

The timer app on FVC8 sucks battery like crazy. 55minute timer used 10% battery. Prior versions wasnt even close. Anyone else experience this?

Yeah. Me. Timer app is crazy now.
Also 'tap2wake' needs much more power than before.

I notice the same crazy battery usage (9%/hour when settin timer of 1 hour) by the Timer app.
A member of the samsung community in NLD tested the Google timer app and reported a battery usage of only 0.1% per hour, versus 7% by the Samsung timer app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.deskclock
I suggest you all report this issue in the Samsung Member app as a fault report under support/feedback. With more reports made chances are higher that Samsung will solve the issue.

Cant find this members app in Google play store. My device is a Huawei mate 20 pro. So I'm not supposed to be a Samsung member i guess.

OnnoJ said:
I notice the same crazy battery usage (9%/hour when settin timer of 1 hour) by the Timer app.
A member of the samsung community in NLD tested the Google timer app and reported a battery usage of only 0.1% per hour, versus 7% by the Samsung timer app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.deskclock
I suggest you all report this issue in the Samsung Member app as a fault report under support/feedback. With more reports made chances are higher that Samsung will solve the issue.
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Received following answer on my fault report from Samsung:
Hi! We have received the report in good order and have started working on it.
The fix for this issue will be applied in a subsequent binary maintenance release. Thank you for notifying us about the problem. Keep your device and apps up to date.
Let's see when it is fixed!

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Kernel wakelocks draining battery, anybody else? Help needed

Hello all,
My phab 2 Pro is draining its battery too fast with the screen off. Using Battery Historian I've been able to pinpoint it down to something keeping the phone awake when it should be sleeping. The problem is it happens randomly and I haven't been able to "connect" it to a specific app or setting.
The "kernel wakeup reason" that Battery Historian shows as the (I think so anyway) culprit is "Abort:Wakeup IRQ -1169425744 (null) pending". The number after "IRQ -" changes from log to log.
Something else that keeps popping up on the "Userspace wakelock" line with short bursts is "RILJ". This is precisely during the period that the phone is "awake" but the screen is off. So maybe the RILJ and the IRQ thing have something to do with each other?
Steps I took:
Full factory reset
Uninstalled ALL apps that can be uninstalled.
Disabled ALL apps that can be disabled, apart from things that have to stay like keyboard.
Switched of any Location setting that can be switched off
Switched of all syncing that can be switched off
Enabled developer options (to be able to pull the bugreport.txt off the device using adb)
Engaged airplane mode
But even with all of these steps, which leaves the phone totally unusable (but I have another daily driver) this weird kernel wakelock still happens frequently, draining the battery very fast. Going from 38% down to 9% in just 6 hours, with the screen off(!) is plainly unacceptable.
Are there other users out there experiencing the same? I know of one guy who posted lasted year, but maybe there are more out there?
Can anybody help with this? I have no idea what to do now I more or less now where the problem lies. I'm no coder and don't know anybody at Lenovo...
Regards,
Sander
Is not normal what happens to you, but as a remote solution ... try to get into the applications that are working, and look at google services, there is one that spends a bestiality, it is called fileakintentoperation $ external that application next to the others Spend a lot of ram, I ended up blocking the services of google play and play store, and I assure you that the battery lasts for more than two days
rogerbcn said:
Is not normal what happens to you, but as a remote solution ... try to get into the applications that are working, and look at google services, there is one that spends a bestiality, it is called fileakintentoperation $ external that application next to the others Spend a lot of ram, I ended up blocking the services of google play and play store, and I assure you that the battery lasts for more than two days
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Hi Rogerbcn,
thanks for replying.
Could you type the name of the app/service again? Google doesn't return anything on "fileakintentoperation" .
I already have the Google play and Play Store apps disabled, unfortunately, that didn't help.
Regards,
Sander
Is just below, where are the services of google play, and is also a service, but after reading that you have disconnected and you also have disconnected play store, gives me your battery or is badly calibrated or is to change, Take it to the sat of lenovo and assert your guarantee that for that we have spent 500 dollars / euros,regards
[rogerbcn] is probably correct and that you may have a defective battery. I use greenify and it seems to extend battery life about 23% for app hibernation.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en
I resolved with task killer (kil 1 sec. After lockscreen)
edit: not resolved... anyone has other experience?
Seems to be resolved.
I used greenify, with doze go (adb solution)

Battery drain (Google account manager)

Let me start off by saying I was so happy with this phone and its battery life but the past couple of days I've seen it drain more than usual. Upon checking I see that Google account manager is responsible for this.
Anyone have an idea what caused this? and how to fix it?
i noticed the same on my chinese mate 9 however the % is below 40 still, from what I can see on my case is the google photos app causing all the noise I had disable synching over cellular data but haven't seen any improvement so far. I did that 2 days ago
Same here on my P10.
How many Google Accounts do you guys have linked? I currently have 4.
Raylow said:
Same here on my P10.
How many Google Accounts do you guys have linked? I currently have 4.
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I have 2 on mine.
Raylow said:
Same here on my P10.
How many Google Accounts do you guys have linked? I currently have 4.
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2 account
Thx for your replies guys!
Meanwhile I accidentally found out that this might be the process what is on other phones the Google Play Services.
I tapped on the Google Account Manager entry and scrolled down to the bottom of the next view and there it is..
Still I haven't seen the "Googl Account Manager" process ever before I assume that Huawei handles or at least displays the processes differently than others (at least Samsung) do.
For me it's a good thing since I see way more processes sucking battery than my SGS7 showed me.
Remembering the battery drain on my SGS7 the Google Play Services had pretty similar battery drain like the "mother process" Google Account Manager has on my P10.
So I think that's it
What do you guys think?
I have the same problem, lot's of times it's a Google calendar fail sync or Google fit fail sync because the system close it and when Google account has do a sync that's impossible because the apps are closed so I'm testing to not force closing Google apps. I will tell you my results
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Use gsam battery monitor
I'm currently doing troubleshooting to find out why this is
virtyx said:
Use gsam battery monitor
I'm currently doing troubleshooting to find out why this is
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Mine is the damn android OS. its using 33% average. no idea why latest update too
leo72793 said:
Mine is the damn android OS. its using 33% average. no idea why latest update too
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its normal for android OS or android system to use battery
android OS is in respect to the kernel however.
virtyx said:
its normal for android OS or android system to use battery
android OS is in respect to the kernel however.
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Still shouldn't use that much. Literally it's the most used one. One hour of screen use today and I'm down 25%
My Huawei watch is the only thing connected. No autosync no nothing. Used it minimally. My note 5 after last update and a reset lost maybe 6% all day. Android OS n kernel aren't an option. It's not on 7.0 tho
Does anyone have a solution for this? It is horrible since a few weeks (no update in the meantime, no other apps installed): Google Play Services (Google Account Manager) are very active, device gets hot, reboot helps for a short time, but almost every day I have a huge battery drain. Before the last weeks, this was not a problem at all, battery usage was super.
L29, B156
Hielko said:
Does anyone have a solution for this? It is horrible since a few weeks (no update in the meantime, no other apps installed): Google Play Services (Google Account Manager) are very active, device gets hot, reboot helps for a short time, but almost every day I have a huge battery drain. Before the last weeks, this was not a problem at all, battery usage was super.
L29, B156
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Do you have developer options enabled?
I've had the same problem, after diasabling developer options it seems to be somewhat better but not really cured.
I also enabled in settings the automatic memory and data cleanup as I've found that cleaning all app caches helped for a short period of time.
I fixed my by doing factory reset. Now everything is back to normal.
Also before I had a problem that whatsapp didn't show messages if I didn't open up the app. This issue also got fixed the same time.
I'm suddenly having high consumption by media server - have no idea what it means and the phone is quite hot.
zayidhs said:
I'm suddenly having high consumption by media server - have no idea what it means and the phone is quite hot.
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mediaserver can be due to listening or streaming music, or indexing music.
its fairly normal, however if your rooted you can disable it in an init.d script.
stop mediaserver works.
or
su -c pm disable mediaserver
virtyx said:
mediaserver can be due to listening or streaming music, or indexing music.
its fairly normal, however if your rooted you can disable it in an init.d script.
stop mediaserver works.
or
su -c pm disable mediaserver
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Thanks, I've been listening to music all day. I'm not rooted so I guess I'll have to keep on with it.
Shut down for a while then restarted the phone and it's no more getting hot.
CandyAndy said:
I fixed my by doing factory reset. Now everything is back to normal.
Also before I had a problem that whatsapp didn't show messages if I didn't open up the app. This issue also got fixed the same time.
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ive still got issues with android os using the most power. i only get 6-7 hours max screen time. i use my huawei watch via BT. latest update for the USA 183
Seems to be getting worse. Now I'm slated max 27 hours. WTF
in reality battery life never gets better. The constant discharge, and charge rates only put wear and tear on the battery. It would great to have the ability to swap batteries on the fly.
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Having bad battery life on Nougat? Check this.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------​What I have right now out of Doze are "Bluetooth MIDI Service", "Bluetooth Share", the "Clock" app and two other Clock apps.
I am not sure how effective is the method listed below after the last update. Stay tuned.​​
Also I think the current version of Facebook Messenger is draining too much battery.
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when I bought my Zenfone 3 ZE520KL, I was amazed by it's battery life. I could easily get around 8 hours of SOT in a single charge with moderate usage. My device was running Android Marshmallow 6.0 out of the box, but performance wasn't as good. On Nougat, performance is much better and faster, also I used to get some lags and frozen screen, the capacitive keys also sometimes froze when I was charging my phone, but now I don't get issues like that as often as before. Interface is so much more appealing and I love it.
But what about battery life? I started getting around 5 hours of SOT.. which is still good, but not really close to 8 hours. I thought a lot about these 3 hours that were missing so I decided to start investigating. I wanted to share my findings with you so maybe you would know something that could help.
It's been two weeks since I have been testing out different things. The apps I used to do my research are:
Carat. What I love about this app is the process list. It shows exactly which apps and system processes are running in the background, so I can control them very easily.
Greenify. Thanks to the Carat app, I can see which apps continue running in the background, so I can use Greenify to hibernate them after I'm done using them. (Examples: Youtube, Snapchat etc.). Also I bought the Donation Package, and unlocked the other modes using adb commands (my device is not rooted).
BetterBatteryStats. This app is usually used to detect wakelocks. I limited the Google Calendar App from syncing so it doesn't use too much battery in the background. This app is paid in Google Play but you can get it for free from here.
What I did to get better battery life:
I excluded the services, that were always running in the process list from the Carat App from Doze. Apparently, the new Doze in Nougat gives us permission to optimize more system processes and services than before, which can backfire - Doze starts trying to kill processes that can't be killed, and this results in consuming more battery juice than saving it.
How to enter Doze settings and make the following changes:
Go to "Settings" > Select "Battery" > Tap on the three dots at the upper-right corner > Select "Battery Optimization" > Select "All Apps" > Find and tap on the Apps/Services/Processes I have listed below > Select "Do not optimize". The other apps and services should stay optimized.
The apps, processes and services that I removed from Doze are:
Android Services Library
Android System
ASUS Calling Screen
Bluetooth MIDI Service
Bluetooth Share
Camera
Clock
com.android.smspush
com.asus.keyboard
com.asus.shim
com.qti.qualcomm.datastatusnotification
com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice
org.codeaurora.bluetooth
org.codeaurora.ims
com.qualcomm.qcrilsgtunnel
ICESound Service
Mobile Manager
MobileManagerService
System UI
Telecom Service
Telephony Service
ZenUI Keyboard
ZenUI Launcher
Some other apps that I'm using: Do It Later, Greenify, Messages, Nova Launcher, Timely, Weather.
Please do a full charge to 100% afterwards and check if the battery still drains as quickly as before. Your feedback will be greatly appreciated.
I am already starting to see improvement in my battery life. I was losing around 2% on Stand By and battery was draining fast when I was using the phone, but now I lost 0% on Stand By overnight and 10% for 1 hour of SOT (before this I was losing 10% for 30 min. of SOT). I am still trying to figure out which services exactly are causing the drain, when they are being optimized. Maybe the services, included in the Android System? (Check them from Settings > Battery > Android System > Included Packages). I deleted Facebook and Twitter apps and started using them from Chrome (almost the same thing, I quickly got used to that). Please check the updates below for more info and share your opinion or advice in the comments so we can all reach a better experience with this amazing smartphone.
Thank you for reading!
Update1: 6h30min SOT with 30% left (917mAh, 35%), but I will have to charge now. I have been messing with Doze a lot, maybe I'll get more clean results later. Progress has been made though, at least with my device.
Update2: Something interesting - my J-Score with the Carat app before and after starting this experiment: http://i.imgur.com/Q8u6HBD.jpg
Update3: There is a battery drain when making voice calls - 226mAh (7%) were lost because of 43 minutes long talk time.
Results were worse after testing with the second list removed, although there wasn't much draining with the screen on: SOT - 5h20min for 70% of battery (752mAh, 20%).
Update4: com.android.phone appears as a wakelock at BBS (Wakeups:8). Also 2h30 SOT for 30% used battery (100-70%~408 mAh). I'm updating the list and trying again.
Please note that my phone is updated to the latest firmware WW_Phone-14.2020.1703.28-20170410.
Update5: com.android.phone is still an active wakelock (Wakeups:14), but SOT is 2h34min for 30% used battery (100-70%~343mAh). At 30% battery left, SOT is almost 6hrs(28%~787mAh), Device Idle is at 10% (291mAh). The MobileManagerService is causing way too many wakelocks and is probably the reason for the high Device Idle battery usage.
Update6: MobileManagerService is no longer showing as a frequent wakelock. com.android.phone (Telephony Service - Wakeups:9) and com.google.android.apps.messaging are the most persistent wakelocks, other than that battery life is amazing at the moment. SOT is 2h45min for 30% used battery (100-70%~366mAh). I also had 27 min of talk time (4%~145mAh). At 30% left, I have 6h33min of SOT (32%~912mAh). Device Idle is again at 10% (292mAh). We are ready for the final test.
Update7: The results are quite interesting. After removing com.qti.qualcomm.telephonyservice from Doze, com.android.phone stopped appearing as a frequent wakelock at first, but now, at 70% it has 16 wakeups. SOT is 2h22min (100-70%~318mAh), so it's not better. I'm going to try a few more changes.
Update 8: I posted it as a reply here.
Update 9: I shouldn't have put Task Manager out of Doze, I get so much better battery life now. The update is ready, check it here.
Good post, thank you for investigating this, please let us know if you find more stuff or what exactly is responsible for it and an easy way of fixing.
1noob said:
Good post, thank you for investigating this, please let us know if you find more stuff or what exactly is responsible for it and an easy way of fixing.
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Hello! Thank you for your reply. I'm so happy I could help others and myself with this thread, but I also need to know if you are also seeing any difference. Please check here regularly!
Also, I'm guessing that when you put your system processes and services in Doze, you also decrease their performance, which causes battery draining, as they try to run normally and do their work. Doze is trying to prevent them from doing that. This is my conclusion, but only results will show if I'm correct. If you own yourself a Zenfone 3, please feel free to report if you experience any changes using my method.
Thank you and have a nice day!
Hi, thank you for the post. I have a zenfone 3 here and will try your method.
I'm trying it on ze520kl with marschmallow, it seems working fine. :highfive:
Do you remove the first and second list from doze ? or ate testing with only the second list now?
Nice findings btw
pedromms86 said:
Do you remove the first and second list from doze ? or ate testing with only the second list now?
Nice findings btw
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I have removed everything from both of the lists. It's still early to say but no major battery drain is noticed for now. Thanks!
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I'm trying it on ze520kl with marschmallow, it seems working fine. :highfive:
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Awesome! :good:
Thank you so much for this article. Well written as well. I have applied the changes and so far no issues (it has been 6 h is). Will report once I have more history
I remove the apps from doze, and can say it really improve battery (test for one day)
thanks !
@Blackrose110 any news improvements after update3 ?
New update is released via OTA (~500MB).
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@Blackrose110 any news improvements after update3 ?
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Too early to say, also I got a weird wakelock, and lost 2% overnight. I lost the results (100-90%) after a restart. Now I'm going to update my phone and start again.
I had 8% used up on 43 minutes of SOT, and 2% lost on voice calls (100 and something mAh). I went to bed with 92%, I guess the other 2% were lost on that wakelock and the clock wakelock. These 2% were lost on equal intervals.
It's going to take a while, I'm just using my device normally. I don't have time to be on my phone all the time, also the battery is harder to drain now. At this point, I'm just trying to get better results.
Cheers!
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@Blackrose110 any news improvements after update3 ?
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Check again tomorrow!
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New update is released via OTA (~500MB).
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Updating...
I don't think it is a good ideea to change Doze settings for system services like com.qualcomm.* or telephony*.
In theory, these services should be compatible with operating system and they should work as designed. I would focus on third-party apps who doesn't work well on Nougat.
Anyway, is just an opinion and i'm looking forward for updates
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I don't think it is a good ideea to change Doze settings for system services like com.qualcomm.* or telephony*.
In theory, these services should be compatible with operating system and they should work as designed. I would focus on third-party apps who doesn't work well on Nougat.
Anyway, is just an opinion and i'm looking forward for updates
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Hello ci6i, I also agree with you, and that's why I excluded all of them from Doze when I first tried this out. At the moment, I removed only those system services, that run in the background all the time. My goal is to find the least amount of system services and processes, that are causing battery drain when the phone is in use.
I am not saying that you should do exactly what I did. It's best if you try out yourself on your own device what works and what doesn't.
I also have only excluded from Doze apps that I use daily. But everyone is using different apps and it depends only on the developers to update them.
You can download Carat for free from Google Play and check the process list, it's very useful. The app itself doesn't use any battery.
Good luck!
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I am not saying that you should do exactly what I did. It's best if you try out yourself on your own device what works and what doesn't.
I also have only excluded from Doze apps that I use daily. But everyone is using different apps and it depends only on the developers to update them.
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I agree with you and i really appreciate your work Yesterday I've installed Carat after i read your first post and today i did new OTA update and cleared cache partition. Let's see how it works in the next few days.
What should I do next, guys? Remove other com.qualcomm/com.android/com.asus services or remove just MobileManagerService from Doze? I'm thinking about the second one, I'm curious to see if ti makes any difference. I think the results from the first test were the best, and the MobileManagerService was out of Doze as far as I remember. Might as well try and see what happens.
It's a bit hard to drain the battery these days, so updates might not be fast. Patience is key!
Yeahh final test!! Looking forward to the result

The most wicked wakelock I've ever encountered.

I'm having the most aggressive wake lock I've ever witnesses on Android to date. This job.delay is driving me crazy because there seems to be very little data or answers to how to solve this issue. I can't even recall ever seeing it in BBS before Oreo or if it was there the amount of wakeup intents were negligible. I have a list of running background apps that I'm attaching and have went down the list and frozen each app , besides BBS of course, to see if the wakeups would stop to no avail. Just see the image I've attached and no that the wake up rate will not slow down and will reach astronomical numbers before my battery dies. Any help is appreciated.
Sorry, I'm no help but I have the same issue on my Note 8.
Whatever is causing the *job.delay* alarm is murdering my phone.
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I'm having the most aggressive wake lock I've ever witnesses on Android to date. This job.delay is driving me crazy because there seems to be very little data or answers to how to solve this issue. I can't even recall ever seeing it in BBS before Oreo or if it was there the amount of wakeup intents were negligible. I have a list of running background apps that I'm attaching and have went down the list and frozen each app , besides BBS of course, to see if the wakeups would stop to no avail. Just see the image I've attached and no that the wake up rate will not slow down and will reach astronomical numbers before my battery dies. Any help is appreciated.
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Use a wakelock detecting app, then identify the wakelock(s) that are bothering you, then use an app that can manage your wakelocks by enabling/disabling as needed to get the effect that you want.
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Insanely high alarms by "com.google.android.location.ALARM_WAKEUP_ACTIVITY _DETECTION"

Insanely high alarms by "com.google.android.location.ALARM_WAKEUP_ACTIVITY _DETECTION"
Hi there, I've been using OOS 9.0.2 and I got some excessive wakelocks by *walarm*:com.google.android.location.ALARM_WAKEUP_ACTIVITY_DETECTION which happens about every 60 seconds. I'm not sure if this is normal or what the culprit could be as the location services are deactivated all the time, yet it occurs. Any idea what it could be? Can it be related to Android Wear?
UPDATE: It appears that Sleep as Android is causing it even when not using the app. I've contacted them now. For me the options are using Greenify during the day for the app, uninstalling it or ignoring it for now.
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UPDATE: It appears that Sleep as Android is causing it even when not using the app. I've contacted them now. For me the options are using Greenify during the day for the app, uninstalling it or ignoring it for now.
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How did you figure that one out? Just curious. Maybe the next person can use the same tools or methods
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How did you figure that one out? Just curious. Maybe the next person can use the same tools or methods
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I wish I could say I simply used a wakelock detector or something like that. I loaded my apps to a secondary device and disabled them one by one. I wasn't sure whether Greenify would prevent it but it did. So greenifying different apps and see if it changes was how I figured it out.
My battery consumption during standby went significantly down. Even though alarms are just the triggers and not the wakelocks, triggering the Network Location Provider every 60 seconds prevents the device from deep sleeping and was a main cause of the standby issues. I suggest to check it for yourself with BetterBatteryStats.
My ALARM_WAKEUP_ACTIVITY_DETECTION exceeded 1000 alarms by the end of the day. While I still get a few Android Wear wakelocks if my smartwatch is not connected. They make up at least 150 too. What I'm trying to say is that I don't say you should have no alarms anymore, but even 150 seem normal for Google Play Services. But over 500 or 1000 definitely isn't normal.
I don't that greenify is needed anymore hence we are on android 9.0 , DOZE does that work pretty good.
oksagi said:
I don't that greenify is needed anymore hence we are on android 9.0 , DOZE does that work pretty good.
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That's my point. Even with light doze active apps still have a maintenance window and Sleep as Android seems to have permanently used sensors via Play Services. Once greenified it stops using it completely and I went from 1.2%/h idle drain to under 0.7%/h or less. I'm just trying to help people who have the same issue as I do. If no app seems to use any sensor, location etc. you don't need Greenify of course. But it can help with some apps.

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