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Good Morning all,
Hopefully ive placed this question in the right location. I`ve been a avid user of the Google Pixel 3 XL for several years now having moved from the Samsung Note 8. I`ve recently had the opportunity to move over to a Samsung Note 10 + Exynos (Australia) and started the Smart Switch copy process as a test before possibly moving over to the device as a daily driver. Upon completing the copy process and testing Samsungs OneUi for a few hours i found myself installing Nova and finding a user created Pixel Nova backup and trying to make the Note10 looks as identical to the Pixel 3 as i could. Previously on i think it was Oreo on the Note8 i just used the device but this Samsung OneUi i dont like at all. I find that the Ui just isnt what up to my personal liking. In saying that when an alternative launcher like Nova is used i lose access to swipe gestures as part of Android10 which ive become accustomed to on my Pixel3. The reason im on the fence is as part of my job im required a times to be onsite at other locations for work consistently on the phone for my 8 -10 hour shift depending on the work where i have noticed the Pixel3 battery just cant cope with my day to day demands without me need to hook up a battery backup to charge the device.
I guess i just am trying to weigh up the pros and cons. From what ive seen the Note10+ has a huge power gain and battery life and performance than the Pixel3 but then Samsung from past experience take quite a long time to release Os and security updates whereas the pixel3 gets them when they are released.
I love that the pixel doesnt come with any bloatware and also prefer the google messages and phone app over Samsungs as i can hook connect message to my work WebGUI while im at my desk which makes it easier to respond to text`s in my work day, Also the Pixel3 camera is amazing and appears to trump the Note10+ for taking photos which i do a lot of for work and personal. Also the Pixel3 fingerprint reader is so much more faster than the ultrasonic in the Note10.
I`ve become so dependent on the google suite of apps referring to Google Phone,Messages,Photos,Calendar,Gmail,Chrome,Assistant,AOD & Home Screen widget to name a few.
As stupid as i sounds i`m trying to find some justifiable reason to move to the Note10 over the Pixel outside of the battery capacity between the 2 as well as the cameras.
Does anyone have any input on how the Note10+ would benefit me over the Pixel3?
Regards
Kornster

kornster said:
Good Morning all,
Hopefully ive placed this question in the right location. I`ve been a avid user of the Google Pixel 3 XL for several years
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Does anyone have any input on how the Note10+ would benefit me over the Pixel3?
Regards
Kornster
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Hi,
I totally understand you, Google delivers, in my opinion, the best User Experience. Despite its devices not being racecars, we still want to buy them for the UI.
Here are all the pros for the Note 10+:
Better CPU, more RAM ---> Smoother experience
More storage, faster (UFS 3.0) ---> Fast file transfer+ no struggles with pics
Quick Charge ---> Phone Charge faster
In display fingerprint ---> Best thing
Gorilla glass 6 (vs 5 for the Pixel)
Plus you get a freaking stylus man!
So the overall experience will most likely be better, smoother and faster (for charging, gaming, taking photos and storing them)
Also, try to see if you can get a OnePlus phone. It has all the pros mentioned above plus it has almost no bloatware (only uninstallable preinstalled apps like FB or Netflix) and the UI is close to stock. You get also a lot of customization.
But to me, the Pixel UI is above OxygenOS (OnePlus UI)
Have a good day

Hi Raiz,
Well i took the plunge for a month and have moved back to the Pixel 3 XL. The Note 10+ itself is aesthetically pleasing to hold and touch. But there`s just something about the Samsung experience that irks me the wrong way. The biggest issue i had was the under screen fingerprint reader, It was IMO the worst experience, 9 out 10 times not working at all requiring me to use my pin code to unlock the phone. I recorded my fingerprints in all different angles to cover everything but more often that not it just didnt work. Samsung Dex was ok but certainly no where near a usable point. Running Windows 10 i can tie the My Phone app straight into the Pixel/Samsung and it worked well, even with the latest update. I never once used the stylus for what it could be used for, only a few times using it for the wireless photo taking. The camera on the Samsung is ok but no where near where the Pixel camera. The Google default apps are for me a lot more user friendly than the Samsung one. Samsung's OneUI although aesthetically pleasing didn't cut it for me, oversized icons and restrictions in places i thought wouldn't be, it felt like i was using an Apple device at times. I needed to use OneUI due to gestures only working with OneUi and not an alternative launcher like Nova. Having the now playing on the lock screen is something i always used, As someone who loves music hearing something and then just looking at the Pixel and it showing what was playing was always a plus. The AOD on the Pixel was better with calendar entries showing up on AOD. Turning the Pixel over the mute was sorely missed especially when i could be working and avoiding phone distractions and just turn the phone over and not be annoyed. There`s so many more things i could report on and im not bagging out the Note10+. Just come to the conclusion that having a Note8 then Pixel 3 XL and moving to the Note10+ that there`s just too many things on the Pixel that are sorely missed and i had to revert.
The biggest issue on the Pixel is the abysmal battery and how long it lasts and it`s something i`ll just have to deal with.

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Hi Raiz,
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The biggest issue on the Pixel is the abysmal battery and how long it lasts and it`s something i`ll just have to deal with.
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Hi,
Nice to hear from you .
I'm sorry that you bought something that didn't pleased you. Some people aren't bothered at all by all the restrictions and all the stuff you said above, but IMO you made the right decision. Samsung are all about making you buy, from the in-OS ads to the short support (which has been a bit lengthened recently). But I think once you get a taste of what Google has to offer with its own OS, you can't get back to the previous experience and don't feel a downgrade.
It's all specs and power now, but I think that if UI, support and features aren't here, your phone won't be good. If I knew that the Pixel 5 would have a battery this large (rumored at 4000 mhA), I would've waited before buying my OP8.
I hope you still enjoy your Pixel 3 tho, and I hope it will last
Have a great day

Should I buy one now

Hi All,
I was wondering what you guys think of the phone now 8 months down the line. I am getting this at a good price around £650 for a good condition used phone on ebay. I was wondering if you guys think most of its problems have been fixed by now.
Just to give you a background, I currently have a note 9 and frankly I am very happy with this phone but it is old now and I am itching to upgrade to something newer, primarily for the cameras and 120hz refresh rate. I did buy the S21 ultra on pre-order but was really disappointed with the camera performance as I found the images my exynos variant produced to be very soft and noisy and not as sharp/clear as my note 9 and overall the phone felt like a big compromise (no s-pen, no sd card, no headphone jack) after paying £1300, so I sent it back. The camera and screen are the primary reasons for me to upgrade and I expect at least decent battery life (maybe 6-7 hours SOT with youtube abd browsing). I do use the S-Pen every now and then and think it would be a good to have. I know the note 20 ultra doesnt support WQHD+ and 120hz at the same time but at the price im getting it at i think this is a compromise i am willing to make since i mostly use my phone at FHD+ anyway and I can barely tell the difference.
I know there was talk about the exynos variant being bad when compared to the SD 865+ version but frankly I am not a gamer and dont need my phone to be ultra powerful. But what i would like to know from you guys is whether the software updates over the past 8 months have fixed most of the issues with battery life and camera performance. Those of you coming from the s10 range or the note 10+ / Note 9 etc. How would you say the camera is on the Note 20 U? Do you guys think its a good buy now? Or should I just give it a miss and hang on to the note 9 till they stop the security patches? Any advise is appreciated.

I have a mate who upgraded from the Note 9 to the Note 20 Ultra. He was VERY impressed with the differences...
He has the Exynos variant but when there is no other phones to compare but what you already have he's happy...
It all comes down to you, go to a store, play with a demo version and make up your mind.

I've upgraded from S10e Exynos with 4,5 screen on time maximum and terrible idle battery drain to Note 20 Ultra Snapdragon. First week was thinking to give it back because it was too big for me and those rounded edges always made me typos. Then I've get used to it, set the keyboard paddings from edges and finally bought nice case (I never used any cases before) and now I'm totally happy with it. I as far as I've read it's almost impossible to get 7-8 screen on time on Exynos variant. I got around 7 on my Snapdragon version but never tested it with gaming so I can not tell yet how good the battery is. I can tell that Qualcomm modem is much better in sense of keeping good connection and speed and very good keeping battery in idle state. Considering the camera - it's much better that in my old S10e ofcourse but I don't use it often so can't say I care about it much. What I love about my new Note 20 ultra Snapdragon is I've rooted it to tweak some small things here and there and now totally feel it's mine. I've rooted my past phones around 5 years ago last time.
Not sure if anything I said will help you but if you have any questions I would be glad to answer.

Thanks guys really useful. As mentioned I don't really need a new phone as my current phone does pretty much what I need it to. But I am itching to upgrade and I don't want to end up being stuck with something that I feel is not as good as my current phone. I currently average 4-5 hours screen on time on my 2 year old note 9 which I think is good for an old phone so hoping to get more. The S21U was good battery wise I got 7 hours SOT with 10% remaining. But the cameras were a let down for the price. I might just wait a couple of months and pick one used if they fix the camera with software updates as the price difference doesn't seem that much like a barely used S21U is going for around 850 on ebay so might be worth the extra 200 vs the note 20 ultra. Especially because I heard a lot of bad things about the n20u battery in particular.

Hi, @eldrid
I upgraded (downgraded considering the cost/storage, lol) from the Note9 (512GB) to the Note20 Ultra (128GB) with Android 11/One UI 3.1.
Have you considered replacing the battery in your Note9? Maybe have the battery replaced and purchase the N20U?
I don't use the camera much, but hopefully one of the forum members will give you some feedback on the N9 vs N20U cameras.
I can hear the Note20 Ultra camera *rattle* but I think this is normal??
If you purchase the N20, you may not want to update the phone to Android 11 (scoped storage, bugs galore, etc...).
I enjoy using the N9 more than the N20U because of the OS and the apps function without issue.
I detest Android 11, ahem, and think it contributes to my attitude of the N20U. N9 is the Beast!

I haven't had note 9 earlier but for me the note 20 ultra is perfect.
We get 1080p with 120hz (sure only 1080p but battery friendly and do you even notice higher res on regular basis?)
Sdcard slot, perfect for pictures, movies, big files and so on, also very easy to swap. (cloud exist but what about vacation or if u got limited data)
Very good cameras, still one of the best out there.
Very good performance with snapdragon 865+, even the exynos one is good. Recent updates have made it better than release version.
S-pen in a slot, no ugly weird case and all functions works perfectly.
The design is also very modern and future proof, I mean the front is almost all display.
People even speculate that this could be the last note ever, so if I were u, I would really consider note 20u if u liked your note 9 and want something better.

I've had my Note 20 Ultra Exynos version since launch, and it's a lot better now than it was when it first came out in both battery life & performance, I also don't game on phone's so it's been more than fine for me.
The camera has also been on point for me as well I've not been disappointed with any pictures or videos I've taken with it.
For 650 quid i think it's well worth it for what you get.

Thanks a ton guys for the honest advice. I finally picked an almost new one for £650 on ebay. They offer a 30 day return so fingers crossed i hope it works out. I won't be selling my note 9 just yet so I will have some time to compare side by side and see what it's like. I am sure it's an upgrade in many regards. But the three key things for me are 1)screen and I'm sure that's great I don't use wqhd and will be perfectly happy with the adaptive 1080 120hz. 2)The cameras... This is one area I am not sure how it will be... This is a very subjective area but I like my images to be sharp and I noticed on the S21U the images were soft and fuzzy not crisp like on the note 9. And 3) is battery life... I still get around 5 hours from the note 9 which is great so I hope to get at least that much. Will keep you guys posted on how it goes over the next few days. I feel like @650 there won't be much to complain about. I was really upset with the s21 ultra as I had paid full price for it and it (£1300) and it felt like a downgrade. Seems like the more modern Samsung phones while powerful are compromising on the basics and are not what they used to be 2 years ago.

Finally got the note20u and frankly I am quite happy with it. I am getting pretty good SOT and plus i used Bluetooth headphones for at least an hour. Considering that I think the battery life is good. Also the camera software seems to be ironed out and the image sharpness is much better than the current image quality on the S21U 1st pic is from note 20u and 2nd from s21u. Overall I think it was a good buy. I would never recommend anyone buying a Samsung phone at launch as the software is very unpolished and you pay a huge amount for an unfinished product. Comparing the experience i have with this nearly new note 20u for 650 is great compared to the ****ty experience the s21u offers for £1200 plus no sd card support or charger in the box. Very good value overall at £650

I upgraded from my still pristine Note 9 and found it a very worthy successor. From the enhanced Dex and S-pen features to the improved cameras, the Note 20 Ultra has provided me with a great user experience. Given Samsung's quest for becoming more -like and shedding features left and right, the Note 20 Ultra is the closest to what the Note line once was: the no holds barred, everything but the kitchen sink, no compromises, Note. I don't know if there is a Note 21 Ultra in the works and if there is it will probably include less features than the Note 20 Ultra offers.

Medevac1 said:
I upgraded from my still pristine Note 9 and found it a very worthy successor. From the enhanced Dex and S-pen features to the improved cameras, the Note 20 Ultra has provided me with a great user experience. Given Samsung's quest for becoming more -like and shedding features left and right, the Note 20 Ultra is the closest to what the Note line once was: the no holds barred, everything but the kitchen sink, no compromises, Note. I don't know if there is a Note 21 Ultra in the works and if there is it will probably include less features than the Note 20 Ultra offers.
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Absolutely agree. Probably why i was finding it hard to part with my note 9 as well. What a great 0 compromise device. I really hate how Samsung were originally the anti apple and a premium alternative for those that didn't want to chain themselves to apple. But now they're becoming more like apple taking away our choice.
Rumours are that there will be a watered down fan edition only this year and that the s-pen toting phone is going to be the fold from now on. If its true its a poor farewell to the note. I say they should bring back the headphone jack, sd card and pack the box with goodies. Make the whole experience of buying a premium flagship feel premium again.

eldrid said:
Absolutely agree. Probably why i was finding it hard to part with my note 9 as well. What a great 0 compromise device. I really hate how Samsung were originally the anti apple and a premium alternative for those that didn't want to chain themselves to apple. But now they're becoming more like apple taking away our choice.
Rumours are that there will be a watered down fan edition only this year and that the s-pen toting phone is going to be the fold from now on. If its true its a poor farewell to the note. I say they should bring back the headphone jack, sd card and pack the box with goodies. Make the whole experience of buying a premium flagship premium again.
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The 10+ was the last Note before Q. After Q things started going south and 11 is even worse.
Between Android and Samsung's "improvements" it's been a dismal year.
Everything's coming up psuedo Apples... and I mean that in the most derogatory way.
As for the Fold series it has been a self made disaster for Samsung. Overpriced and unreliable.
Samsung, you do know the definition of insanity don't you? Apparently not.

Late to the party here but I'm happy with my N20 Ultra 5G Snapdragon soc I imported from Hong Kong.
I wouldn't of been keen to buy a used phone from ebay due to the amount that get imei locked a few weeks / months after receiving it.

BandOfBrothers1 said:
I wouldn't of been keen to buy a used phone from ebay due to the amount that get imei locked a few weeks / months after receiving it.
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How can you avoid that from happening 100%?
Is it that common?

blackhawk said:
How can you avoid that from happening 100%?
Is it that common?
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It's something I've come across way too often throughout the years on forums.
A person sells a phone on ebay and then fraudulently claims it lost or stolen.
Auction Sites need to tighten up and introduce even more protection for the buyer as well as the seller.

BandOfBrothers1 said:
It's something I've come across way too often throughout the years on forums.
A person sells a phone on ebay and then fraudulently claims it lost or stolen.
Auction Sites need to tighten up and introduce even more protection for the buyer as well as the seller.
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Doing that in the USA be incurring multiple federal felonies.

BandOfBrothers1 said:
Late to the party here but I'm happy with my N20 Ultra 5G Snapdragon soc I imported from Hong Kong.
I wouldn't of been keen to buy a used phone from ebay due to the amount that get imei locked a few weeks / months after receiving it.
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Damn didn't know that happens. I got mine from a business seller with 100% ratings so looks like hes been at it for a while with no issues. He claims the phones are customer returns from the official Samsung store and would barely have any usage if at all. And everything looked the part it seemed brand spanking new, scratchless and even no signs wear or dust in the usb c port. Also he had a whole batch of 7-8 to sell so everything sounded legit. Let's hope everything works out well.
On a separate note. I thought id use the phone without a screen protector for a few days while the tempered glass one I ordered arrives and so removed the factory one. After a day or so i have already noticed a couple of micro scratches on the screen visible at certain angles. This is with careful use at home. I feel like this whole gorilla glass thing is just market hype.

blackhawk said:
Doing that in the USA be incurring multiple federal felonies.
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I wouldn't worry about it too much. The only reason someone would do that is to be malicious and most people are not. I doubt the seller has a personal vendetta against you. He got his money and will move on.
I have had the N20U since release and have no issues and at this point is a good as it gets functionally.

Fed up Samsung fanboi looking for new phone / Half rant

Hi All,
I'm coming at you with a different type of post, one where I'm looking for everyone's expertise in choosing a new phone to replace my S21+ Exynos 256gb.
I've had the phone since launch, and I was forced to get the Exynos version as it's the only one available in my market (no SD).
I've had a myriad of problems and frustrations with this particular phone, and a few to mention are the fact that Fast charge and Super Fast charge no longer work. The phone refuses to charge in these modes even though I haven't changed my charger setup (genuine super fast charger and cable). Moreover, when the phone reaches a certain low battery level you cannot charge it because there's a "moisture detected in your port" error. It happens very randomly and yes, I've checked for moisture and pocket lint/dust each time, the phone and charging port are in pristine condition (air relative humidity in my home is ~40-50%). This even happens if I turn off the phone and try to charge it.
One thing that allows me to charge it in this condition is either - Wireless charging, which makes the phone scalding hot in a few minutes and the charging of course stops, or using a very old external battery (low amps maybe?) with it's built-in type-c cable.
My second gripe is camera UI performance. From the moment you start the camera and the moment you can take pictures there's a window of time where it acts very choppy and unresponsive (the whole phone does), and the interface takes time to draw to the whole screen. Sometimes when you change modes or exit the app and open it again, the same happens. Still on the topic of the camera, when I start the "Pro mode" and start working on a shot, including focusing, setting isso/exposure, zooming in/out and just general work to frame the best shot, the phone gets so hot in the upper right corner that you're given the impression it's gonna burn soon . I think the camera setup uses way more processing power than the phone is able to deliver for extended periods of time. (keep in mind we're talking about 3-5 minutes, not hours).
Third and final gripe is software+hardware performance. I've switched to this phone from an S10+ and I wholeheartedly say that the S10+ combination of hardware and software delivered more day-to-day usage performance than the S21+. The interface was snappy, there was no lag and no applications were "hanging" or taking too much time to process changes or screen refreshes. My overall experience with the S21+ has been horrible in terms of usability, it somehow gives the impresion of an underpowered computer trying to run the most advanced software. I won't go into details on specific apps and scenarios, but I have been extensively multitasking on my old s10+ with both work and personal apps at the same time and I have not had this level of dissatisfaction with the phone's performance like with the S21+. It feels like I'm using a phone 2-3 generations older.
I know, I know, I'm whining, but I was very enthusiastic about getting a newer phone, after having a stellar experience with my old S10+, and this s21+ has delivered only problems and disappointments.
I'm a long time Samsung fan (may flagship phones over the years, Samsung TVs and appliances, you name it).
But I think time has come to say goodbye to the smartphone division of Samsung. Continuing to use Samsung phones would be at a detriment to me and I am trying to avoid that.
That being said - I am looking for an alternative, maybe it's time to try Snapdragon at this point in my life since Samsung only sold Exynos phones on my market and that's what I've been using along these years.
I've been looking at the Xiaomi Mi 11 Pro recently. Are there any other alternatives? I've been so far up with Samsung products that I don't even know who's their competition these days!
Thank you very much for reading my rant!

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I've been looking at the Xiaomi Mi 11 Pro recently. Are there any other alternatives? I've been so far up with Samsung products that I don't even know who's their competition these days!
Thank you very much for reading my rant!
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Firstly, your post is too long that I believe not everyone will bother to read your personal story telling, including my self.
Secondly, you need to be more specific when calling a phone model because one letter or number means a totally different phone AND specifications.
I also was a fan of Samsung up to the Galaxy S2 which I believe was the best phone they ever made, everything after that is pure overpriced marketing garbage.
I also owned other Samsung phones too and I am not impressed by their price compared to what they offer.
Another reason why I dislike (and won't buy anymore) Samsung products is because their CEO poked and derided Huawei when America (and its slave allies) banned Huawei out of the country citing security reasons.
Obviously Samsung is worried about sales in the US and it is ready to say anything its master orders to.
Regarding Xiaomi, this year it has became the world's second manufacturer for sales and that tells which phone manufacturer company is leading in the world.
I'm sorry that you wasted a lot of money on a Samsung crap (like I did), I advise you look into Xiaomi or Poco (same as Xiaomi) because they offer the best available technology at the best price compared to other manufacturers.
And when asking for suggestions you need to (very very briefly) tell what you're looking for in a phone.
By the way, I also have a Samsung washing machine, it works but it's pure garbage because when is spins fast it makes too much noise compared to my much older washing machine.

Hello @mobnoob and thanks for your extensive reply.
I've since gone with the Oneplus 9 pro and I feel it fills my needs fine until now.
As to appliances, I've started exploring other manufacturers and it seems there are some good options out there. It feels weirdly good to be free

adrscu said:
Hello @mobnoob and thanks for your extensive reply.
I've since gone with the Oneplus 9 pro and I feel it fills my needs fine until now.
As to appliances, I've started exploring other manufacturers and it seems there are some good options out there. It feels weirdly good to be free
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The One Plus 9 Pro looks a nice phone and it offers a great value for what it costs but for my needs a phone must have at least a 5000mAh battery because I use Google Maps and GPS a lot.
I didn't update my previous preference, I got a Poco M3 global (EU) which is trash.
It's made in China by Xiaomi, notifications on a locked screen have a lot of problems so I need always to unlock the screen and check IF I got a message.
MIUI developed a always on screen APP which maybe fixes the problem, I updated the phone to the latest MIUI 12, I see people on Youtube showing the APP in the settings BUT I don't have it!
I found out that Xiaomi only offer this APP to the Chinese market, how stupid is that???
Also I'm not able to receive MMS messages anymore, weak wi-fi, overheating when charging etc. etc..
I tried to contact both Xiaomi and Poco in many ways, they never replayed!!!

General My Experience with the SD 128 and Eventually the 512

Let me preface this with, I know having only 2/3 of the max ram you could potentially have on the Ultra 22 would be noticeable in performance, but i had no idea it would be that dramatic and debilitating.
I purchased the 128 because all they had available at my stores were this one and the 512, thinking i could save a few hundred dollars and still be upgrading, this was a complete downgrade. As always i load phone with no accounts to upgrade it, then factory reset it to start fresh.
First Red Flag, even while booting up for the first time, the phone got very very hot and slowed down to a crawl. This was something i had never experienced with the years of samsung phones ive purchased.
Opening just as much as 3 applications would cause stuttering to a point where it would be 2 second before a touch is registered.
Memory allocation was so bad that even with 3 applications open, if i returned to the first application it would refresh. Even if all the apps are still running in memory the app will refresh.
Disabling all the built in facebook (meta) services and applications, helped a lot but it couldn't fix the overall issue.
If you use secure folder at all, just put the phone down because now we are talking several seconds between every thing you do in the app.
This phone runs hot, ALL THE TIME, as soon as you're in more than 1 app.
Increasing virtual ram did nothing for me.
Battery life was below my Z-Fold 3, it wouldn't last even close to a whole day with heavy use.
I say all this to say., in my opinion, Don't skimp, either wait for a 256GB to be available if nothing but the 128 is around or dont get it at all if all you want is the 128. The 512 runs like a dream, like i expect a flagship to run.
Why samsung decided to make this crap is beyond my comprehension, 8GB apparently can't even run their OS properly or with the latest updates, it wasn't optimized.

Pretty much the reason Samsung was giving "free" upgrades to the 12/ 256 version during launch here in the U.S. You couldn't even choose the 8/128 even if you wanted to almost everywhere which I guess in retrospect was a clue all by itself..

It's fairly obvious Samsung is maximizing profits over performance. The S22 Ultra is the biggest debacle since the Note 7, maybe bigger!

varcor said:
It's fairly obvious Samsung is maximizing profits over performance. The S22 Ultra is the biggest debacle since the Note 7, maybe bigger!
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Uh...how so? I mean, it hasn't blown up yet, and it seems to be a great device.

varcor said:
It's fairly obvious Samsung is maximizing profits over performance. The S22 Ultra is the biggest debacle since the Note 7, maybe bigger!
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Not even close

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Uh...how so? I mean, it hasn't blown up yet, and it seems to be a great device.
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In case you haven't noticed 128GB of internal memory, which is actually 106GB after system memory is accounted for is ridiculous. That's all you'll have no matter how long you keep the device. The OP has made a clear case for why it's insufficient, especially on a flagship device. Another question, why did Samsung eliminate MicroSD on the S21 when almost all the rest of there mid and low price devices include it? To copy iPhone? Nope, they choose to do it for PROFITS! The cost to upgrade from 128GB to 512GB on the S21 Ultra is $400 USD, what a scam! Who will be surprised when the S23 rolls out with 64GB?

varcor said:
In case you haven't noticed 128GB of internal memory, which is actually 106GB after system memory is accounted for is ridiculous. That's all you'll have no matter how long you keep the device. The OP has made a clear case for why it's insufficient, especially on a flagship device. Another question, why did Samsung eliminate MicroSD on the S21 when almost all the rest of there mid and low price devices include it? To copy iPhone? Nope, they choose to do it for PROFITS! The cost to upgrade from 128GB to 512GB on the S21 Ultra is $400 USD, what a scam! Who will be surprised when the S23 rolls out with 64GB?
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In case you hadn't noticed, I have a 512GB
In case you hadn't noticed, ALL devices have a lower usable storage than advertised. The advertised storage is the TOTAL storage. The OS and stock apps take up some space. So that's 100% normal.
You go off the rails here a bit talking about the S21. This is the S22 forum, and that's the decide we are discussing. The upgrade on the S22 from 128 to 512 wasn't $400. Matter of fact it was a $100 during preorder.
Can't argue about the microSD. THAT is all about profits. Of course the whole phone is all about profits.
All of that amounts to features/choices you don't like. It's doesn't put it on the debacle level anywhere near the Note 7. What you're saying is you'd rather have an exploding phone, since this is a BIGGER debacle.

I think more than just the RAM, the higher storage is likely improving performance. In the Note20 Ultra days, Samsung had a disclaimer that 512 GB models would have significantly faster read and write speeds than the 128 GB models.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
In case you hadn't noticed, I have a 512GB
In case you hadn't noticed, ALL devices have a lower usable storage than advertised. The advertised storage is the TOTAL storage. The OS and stock apps take up some space. So that's 100% normal.
You go off the rails here a bit talking about the S21. This is the S22 forum, and that's the decide we are discussing. The upgrade on the S22 from 128 to 512 wasn't $400. Matter of fact it was a $100 during preorder.
Can't argue about the microSD. THAT is all about profits. Of course the whole phone is all about profits.
All of that amounts to features/choices you don't like. It's doesn't put it on the debacle level anywhere near the Note 7. What you're saying is you'd rather have an exploding phone, since this is a BIGGER debacle.
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"It's doesn't put it on the debacle level anywhere near the Note 7"
Really? Browse these posts then comment on how the S22 Ultra isn't a disaster.
S22 Ultra Very Laggy and slow
I got my new S22 Ultra this monday and I have been having quite a lot of problems with it. The battery life is terrible, only around 2-3 hours of lite use. Snapchat is near unusable because it is terribly slow and laggy to use and the viewport...
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Samsung S22 Ultra the phone that disappointed me the most.
Hi All Two years ago I bought a phone, from a slightly lower end than Samsung - that's what I thought at the time, until I started using the Samsung S22 Ultra 512GB a month ago. That phone was the Oppo Find X2 Pro 512GB. In two years I never...
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Class Action Lawsuit on the Note 7 and now the S22 Ultra.
Samsung Phone Lagging? Class Action Alleges the Company Misled Consumers on Speed and Performance
A proposed class action alleges Samsung Electronics America has misled both reviewers and the general public with regard to the speed, battery life and overall performance of certain Galaxy smartphones.
www.classaction.org
At least with the Note 7 Samsung knew what the problem was about and how to fix it. Refund the customers and ditch the model. Samsung is chasing their tail with the S22 Ultra, they have made multiple attempts and the device is still an absolute mess! It is what it is!

knuschit said:
Let me preface this with, I know having only 2/3 of the max ram you could potentially have on the Ultra 22 would be noticeable in performance, but i had no idea it would be that dramatic and debilitating.
I purchased the 128 because all they had available at my stores were this one and the 512, thinking i could save a few hundred dollars and still be upgrading, this was a complete downgrade. As always i load phone with no accounts to upgrade it, then factory reset it to start fresh.
First Red Flag, even while booting up for the first time, the phone got very very hot and slowed down to a crawl. This was something i had never experienced with the years of samsung phones ive purchased.
Opening just as much as 3 applications would cause stuttering to a point where it would be 2 second before a touch is registered.
Memory allocation was so bad that even with 3 applications open, if i returned to the first application it would refresh. Even if all the apps are still running in memory the app will refresh.
Disabling all the built in facebook (meta) services and applications, helped a lot but it couldn't fix the overall issue.
If you use secure folder at all, just put the phone down because now we are talking several seconds between every thing you do in the app.
This phone runs hot, ALL THE TIME, as soon as you're in more than 1 app.
Increasing virtual ram did nothing for me.
Battery life was below my Z-Fold 3, it wouldn't last even close to a whole day with heavy use.
I say all this to say., in my opinion, Don't skimp, either wait for a 256GB to be available if nothing but the 128 is around or dont get it at all if all you want is the 128. The 512 runs like a dream, like i expect a flagship to run.
Why samsung decided to make this crap is beyond my comprehension, 8GB apparently can't even run their OS properly or with the latest updates, it wasn't optimized.
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sorry to hear that. I have the SD 128Gb version and I have none of the problems you posted - luckily.

varcor said:
"It's doesn't put it on the debacle level anywhere near the Note 7"
Really? Browse these posts then comment on how the S22 Ultra isn't a disaster.
S22 Ultra Very Laggy and slow
I got my new S22 Ultra this monday and I have been having quite a lot of problems with it. The battery life is terrible, only around 2-3 hours of lite use. Snapchat is near unusable because it is terribly slow and laggy to use and the viewport...
forum.xda-developers.com
Samsung S22 Ultra the phone that disappointed me the most.
Hi All Two years ago I bought a phone, from a slightly lower end than Samsung - that's what I thought at the time, until I started using the Samsung S22 Ultra 512GB a month ago. That phone was the Oppo Find X2 Pro 512GB. In two years I never...
forum.xda-developers.com
Class Action Lawsuit on the Note 7 and now the S22 Ultra.
Samsung Phone Lagging? Class Action Alleges the Company Misled Consumers on Speed and Performance
A proposed class action alleges Samsung Electronics America has misled both reviewers and the general public with regard to the speed, battery life and overall performance of certain Galaxy smartphones.
www.classaction.org
At least with the Note 7 Samsung knew what the problem was about and how to fix it. Refund the customers and ditch the model. Samsung is chasing their tail with the S22 Ultra, they have made multiple attempts and the device is still an absolute mess! It is what it is!
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You're hilarious, dude. My S22 is great, but yeah. I'm glad the Note 7 only exploded. At least it didn't lag sometimes. That's so much worse.
And Samsung never fixed the Note 7. They recalled it. With the S22, the issues with the 128GB model were preempted with free upgrades ro the 256 with more RAM.

I had a… similar ish experience. It lead me to believe that it isn’t actually the 8gb RAM variant that is the problem.
I have had two 256/12gb now. The first was atrocious and was getting roasting hot just starting up, as you described, and the battery life was horrendous.
The new one is a little warm sometimes, but the battery is superb. Like iPhone 13 Pro superb.
No idea what’s happening at Samsung but they can’t seem to get consistent 5nm SoC?

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You're hilarious, dude. My S22 is great, but yeah. I'm glad the Note 7 only exploded. At least it didn't lag sometimes. That's so much worse.
And Samsung never fixed the Note 7. They recalled it. With the S22, the issues with the 128GB model were preempted with free upgrades ro the 256 with more RAM.
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The Note7 battery issue was WAY overblown. I had 2, traded one for the S22U, and i still have a 2nd one. The keyboard and UI lag was HORRIBLE, and neither of mine nor any other people with Note7's i knew blew up.

knuschit said:
Let me preface this with, I know having only 2/3 of the max ram you could potentially have on the Ultra 22 would be noticeable in performance, but i had no idea it would be that dramatic and debilitating.
I purchased the 128 because all they had available at my stores were this one and the 512, thinking i could save a few hundred dollars and still be upgrading, this was a complete downgrade. As always i load phone with no accounts to upgrade it, then factory reset it to start fresh.
First Red Flag, even while booting up for the first time, the phone got very very hot and slowed down to a crawl. This was something i had never experienced with the years of samsung phones ive purchased.
Opening just as much as 3 applications would cause stuttering to a point where it would be 2 second before a touch is registered.
Memory allocation was so bad that even with 3 applications open, if i returned to the first application it would refresh. Even if all the apps are still running in memory the app will refresh.
Disabling all the built in facebook (meta) services and applications, helped a lot but it couldn't fix the overall issue.
If you use secure folder at all, just put the phone down because now we are talking several seconds between every thing you do in the app.
This phone runs hot, ALL THE TIME, as soon as you're in more than 1 app.
Increasing virtual ram did nothing for me.
Battery life was below my Z-Fold 3, it wouldn't last even close to a whole day with heavy use.
I say all this to say., in my opinion, Don't skimp, either wait for a 256GB to be available if nothing but the 128 is around or dont get it at all if all you want is the 128. The 512 runs like a dream, like i expect a flagship to run.
Why samsung decided to make this crap is beyond my comprehension, 8GB apparently can't even run their OS properly or with the latest updates, it wasn't optimized.
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Maybe your 128GB was defective?

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In case you haven't noticed 128GB of internal memory, which is actually 106GB after system memory is accounted for is ridiculous. That's all you'll have no matter how long you keep the device. The OP has made a clear case for why it's insufficient, especially on a flagship device. Another question, why did Samsung eliminate MicroSD on the S21 when almost all the rest of there mid and low price devices include it? To copy iPhone? Nope, they choose to do it for PROFITS! The cost to upgrade from 128GB to 512GB on the S21 Ultra is $400 USD, what a scam! Who will be surprised when the S23 rolls out with 64GB?
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I will only discuss the SD card part.
One of the reasons OEMs ditched it is performance, especially video cam. Flagships can record at very high framerates which needs a very fast read/write storage and counting on SD cards, even the best of them, will be highly problematic. That's also the reason why they keep offering SD cards slots in their midrange or budget phones, as it will never deteriorate their modest performance.

Slade8525 said:
The Note7 battery issue was WAY overblown. I had 2, traded one for the S22U, and i still have a 2nd one. The keyboard and UI lag was HORRIBLE, and neither of mine nor any other people with Note7's i knew blew up.
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Damn!
I thought I was the only one holding on to a N930FD.
Hope it's running well!
My battery is kinda weak, and the charge doesnt hold much longer.
Cant blame.. It's been a long time.
Like you said .. Yeah, None I knew blew up.
I owned around 5 of them at different times.

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Maybe your 128GB was defective?
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Possibly but seeing all the other reports on here now that say the same thing, im thinking it wasn't.

I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy the 128GB.. that's just nucking futs

strongsteve said:
I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy the 128GB.. that's just nucking futs
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the SD 128GB is perfectly fine for me. I am using the camera for a decent amount and I have a DJI Mini 2 and I have not run out of space yet. Currently 60Gb still available. I have not seen RAM go above 6Gb use yet either.
Sure, I would have loved to get my pre-ordered 256Gb model, but I probably would still be waiting.
cheers

Slade8525 said:
The Note7 battery issue was WAY overblown. I had 2, traded one for the S22U, and i still have a 2nd one. The keyboard and UI lag was HORRIBLE, and neither of mine nor any other people with Note7's i knew blew up.
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Not as overblown as the S22 problems.
Besides I think you missed the point of my post.

Question Considering switching

Currently have an S21 ultra and am considering trading it in for a Pixel 7 pro. Would this be considered an upgrade?

That depends entirely on your usecase. Samsung offers a multitude of software gimmicks (we Pixel people call it bloatware) and a stellar display plus a relatively good battery life (by shutting down everything in the background*).
*https://dontkillmyapp.com/
Pixels on the other hand offer an extraordinary camera, a smooth software experience, quick updates and new features every couple of months.
Purely in terms of hardware and competition, the P7 Pro is designed to beat the S22 Ultra and will compete with the upcoming S23 Ultra, as such, yes - the P7 Pro can be considered an upgrade to your 1 3/4 year old S21 Ultra. But it's a bit like comparing a Porsche to a BMW - both are good, but both are also vitally different. Both offer a different set of features and are designed for a certain level of expectation. It's a question of taste, at the end of the day.

Agreed with @Morgrain. I went back to Samsung (Note 10+ 512 GB) after my Pixel 1 stopped receiving updates because I needed a phone with 512 GB of storage minimum, so it wasn't until the Pixel 6 Pro was offered with 512 GB that I could come back. Personally, I couldn't stand Samsung for a variety of reasons I detailed many times in several Pixel 6 Pro threads
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My wife and I had the Note 10+, not the S21 Ultra, so I can't speak to that.
For the Note 10+, complaints were:
Slow ultrasonic in-screen fingerprint reader. Some folks have the same complaint about the P6P's optical in-screen, but it's worked very, very well for me.
Samsung's duplication of multiple services that Google supplies. You have to know what you're looking for and jump through all the proper hoops/settings to set defaults back to Google's solutions since that's what I prefer.
Related to Samsung's duplication of services/apps, their phone app duplicated a bunch of my contacts (and even tripled some) in a way that Google doesn't recognize them as duplicates, so I'd have to go through manually, compare, and delete or consolidate contacts.
How customization of the active Quick Setting tiles was set was really frustrating, up through and including Android 11 on the Note 10+. When it gave a list of the QS Tiles I had to choose from (to add to those that normally show), it presented them in a single horizontal scrolling row across the top of the screen only and in no order that made sense to this human, instead of Google's method of displaying all the tiles available in all of the screen real estate that's available, so even if the order the "inactive" ones doesn't make sense, at least I can see 14 of them all at once and only have a little over two pages of them instead of 8 pages of single-row QS tiles to choose what to activate. This is particularly frustrating when using third-party apps to enable better performing QS tiles for WiFi or Mobile Data toggling or other purposes, so I would have more than one nearly identical-looking toggle that would get confusing to choose from, and from what I remember, the custom third-party app-created QS tiles weren't necessarily together or at the very end of the scrolling list.
Despite disabling all background snoozing for particular apps like GMail, Hangouts/Chat, etc, I couldn't get timely notifications of emails and chat. This was particularly troublesome for work, which also uses Google for everything. I opt not to have a work-supplied phone as it would be iOS. As an aside, my coworkers who do have iPhones from work also have trouble with some chat notifications not being obvious or immediate or some such, so that wouldn't necessarily be a solution anyway.
Before the Note 10+ (on the Pixel 1 I used before it), my emails and chat notifications came through immediately. I sometimes got email notifications for work several hours after. I do enough multi-tasking and when I'm very busy I just don't get a chance to flip back to my Chrome GMail window on the computer so I rely on the phone notifications.
Sometimes I would get a phone notification of an email (both personal and work) in the GMail app hours after I had already seen the email in Chrome on the PC and had deleted it or in some cases at least definitely had read it and didn't do anything further with it.
My brother has a Galaxy S9+. This has been his and his big extended family's first smartphones of any kind. When I complained to him about the late or useless Note 10+ GMail and chat notifications, he told me he experiences the exact same thing and he assumed that was just the way Android is.
Factory resets and all disabling of background snoozing of affected apps didn't help at all.
Samsung gimped Do Not Disturb. When DnD came out with (I think it was 5.0 Lollipop), I hated it and gave up on it quickly. I don't remember at what point I started actually using it on the Pixel 1, but they definitely improved it tons. I don't recall exactly what Samsung's implementation was missing but it was very noticeable having come from the Pixel 1 and no longer being able to do some things. I think what Samsung was missing was the ultra-fine granularity of configuration I could do for each and every scheduled and common/unscheduled DnD profile as to what exceptions were allowed to get past DnD. They had some of it implemented but missing enough that it stuck out at the time.
Now that I have the P6P, I can say that the Note 10+'s night mode camera shots were really bad. I think they were worse than even the Pixel 1s'. The P6P does wonders with what little light is available, by comparison.
There may have been more but I can't recall at this time.
I did like the built-in stylus. My wife used hers tons more than I did, but it would be handy for Google Photos' magic eraser and for other things. Samsung owns patents that would keep anyone else's stylus from being quite as useful or convenient, however. If I remember correctly, between Apple and Samsung's stylus patents, everyone else's stylus just can't compare.
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The only thing I miss on my 21 Ultra is the 100x zoom, it took some great shots of the moon. I have a 6 Pro but ordered the 7 Pro so I'm excited to see the improvements.

I guess the biggest question I have is what features (besides the 100x zoom) would I lose from the S21 ultra and what from the P7P would I be missing out sticking with the S21U?

JamesR913 said:
I guess the biggest question I have is what features (besides the 100x zoom) would I lose from the S21 ultra and what from the P7P would I be missing out sticking with the S21U?
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The most obvious thing in the direction of what you would be missing from the P7P is Pixel-exclusive features (which normally trickle down to Samsung and others within a few years, but not always).
I love the Google Phone app's native customizable call screening feature for different types of incoming calls (likely spam, not in contacts, first time caller...). Also it's Hold For Me feature is great to avoid dumb, loud, annoying, repetitive hold "muzak". As far as I know, those features haven't made their way to non-Pixels yet, although they wouldn't be specific to the Pixel 7/Pro either.
I also love @siavash79's [MOD][Xposed+Magisk][Pre-Release] AOSP Mods - System modifications for AOSP-based Android 12+ on my rooted Pixel 6 Pro and look forward to finding out if it will need any adjustments to work on the P7P.

roirraW edor ehT said:
The most obvious thing in the direction of what you would be missing from the P7P is Pixel-exclusive features (which normally trickle down to Samsung and others within a few years, but not always).
I love the Google Phone app's native customizable call screening feature for different types of incoming calls (likely spam, not in contacts, first time caller...). Also it's Hold For Me feature is great to avoid dumb, loud, annoying, repetitive hold "muzak". As far as I know, those features haven't made their way to non-Pixels yet, although they wouldn't be specific to the Pixel 7/Pro either.
I also love @siavash79's [MOD][Xposed+Magisk][Pre-Release] AOSP Mods - System modifications for AOSP-based Android 12+ on my rooted Pixel 6 Pro and look forward to finding out if it will need any adjustments to work on the P7P.
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Regarding conversation of switching from Samsung to Google:
I personally think although good hardware is very important, we have to note that nowadays most of the phones have good quality hardware on them. (I do agree that Samsung offers the highest quality hardware).
Now, to me (and might be only me), the most important thing to choose a phone is not hardware, but is the "Software" it offers. The ROM should be safe, secure, rich in features, AND supported constantly be OEM.
When it comes to software, I think Samsung is one of the worst with regards to support: It's not open source, updates are very (very) much delayed, and it's too much far away from "original" android experience.
On the contrary (and even though I've personally suffered a lot from Google hardware in the past), Google phones offer everything Samsung doesn't: It's open source, "original" android experience, first to get updates (every single month on 5th), and first to get new Android (at least 6 months before others due to developer and beta releases)
So It's up to you to choose based on your priorities: Best hardware is offered by Samsung, best software is in Pixel
With regards to AOSPMods operating on P7: Since the source code of the ROM is the same as the released A13 source, I don't see why it shouldn't work well from day one: Unless proven otherwise

siavash79 said:
Regarding conversation of switching from Samsung to Google:
I personally think although good hardware is very important, we have to note that nowadays most of the phones have good quality hardware on them. (I do agree that Samsung offers the highest quality hardware).
Now, to me (and might be only me), the most important thing to choose a phone is not hardware, but is the "Software" it offers. The ROM should be safe, secure, rich in features, AND supported constantly be OEM.
When it comes to software, I think Samsung is one of the worst with regards to support: It's not open source, updates are very (very) much delayed, and it's too much far away from "original" android experience.
On the contrary (and even though I've personally suffered a lot from Google hardware in the past), Google phones offer everything Samsung doesn't: It's open source, "original" android experience, first to get updates (every single month on 5th), and first to get new Android (at least 6 months before others due to developer and beta releases)
So It's up to you to choose based on your priorities: Best hardware is offered by Samsung, best software is in Pixel
With regards to AOSPMods operating on P7: Since the source code of the ROM is the same as the released A13 source, I don't see why it shouldn't work well from day one: Unless proven otherwise
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With regards to both sides, they have their own issues. It's been proven that Samsung phones have a battery bloating issue after a few years of use, and this could be seen as a huge risk considering the batteries in question are lithium-ion, but as long as you don't plan to use it for more than 1-2 years, there should be no issue. The issue with the Pixel series of phones could be considered just as serious depending on your circumstances. I'm not sure if this issue carries onto the Pixel 7, but the Pixel 6a has appauling battery life because of Google's chip, which drains the battery even when on standby, and there's been reports of it dying in your pocket as well.

Just pulled the trigger. I figured worst case scenario I have 14 days to return the P7P if I don't like it.

JamesR913 said:
Just pulled the trigger. I figured worst case scenario I have 14 days to return the P7P if I don't like it.
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good luck to you. feel free to report back after the 14 days. I'm curious how the new pixel works day to day

Morgrain said:
That depends entirely on your usecase. Samsung offers a multitude of software gimmicks (we Pixel people call it bloatware) and a stellar display plus a relatively good battery life (by shutting down everything in the background*).
*https://dontkillmyapp.com/
Pixels on the other hand offer an extraordinary camera, a smooth software experience, quick updates and new features every couple of months.
Purely in terms of hardware and competition, the P7 Pro is designed to beat the S22 Ultra and will compete with the upcoming S23 Ultra, as such, yes - the P7 Pro can be considered an upgrade to your 1 3/4 year old S21 Ultra. But it's a bit like comparing a Porsche to a BMW - both are good, but both are also vitally different. Both offer a different set of features and are designed for a certain level of expectation. It's a question of taste, at the end of the day.
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Truth is the P7 Pro is still lags behind the S22U as far as hardware and performance is concerned.
S22 Ultra vs Pixel 7 Pro
Pros and cons to both. Hopefully the P7's don't come with the software baggage that plagued the P6 release.

hand-filer said:
Truth is the P7 Pro is still lags behind the S22U as far as hardware and performance is concerned.
S22 Ultra vs Pixel 7 Pro
Pros and cons to both. Hopefully the P7's don't come with the software baggage that plagued the P6 release.
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given the price, that doesn't surprise me at all.

Is there any solid backup system for Google Pixel phones (as Apple) ?
I am thinking to move for Pixel because in Samsung there is no reliable method to backup your data !!

A0_o said:
Is there any solid backup system for Google Pixel phones (as Apple) ?
I am thinking to move for Pixel because in Samsung there is no reliable method to backup your data !!
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Well, all Android phones have a backup system built in that runs automatically in the background. Is there a 3rd party option that might be better? You will have to do a little research and see what's available. But for the average person what comes with Android is adequate. YMMV

jaseman said:
Well, all Android phones have a backup system built in that runs automatically in the background. Is there a 3rd party option that might be better? You will have to do a little research and see what's available. But for the average person what comes with Android is adequate. YMMV
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Excuse me to disagree with you, There no YMMV in this kind of matter, When you bought a new phone they have to provide a way to transfer all your data as it is for the new one and forcing manufactures to be integrated. For me as natural user have to be feeling safe about my data and not lose it anytime or if the manufacture decide to blackmail user by storage spaces for Example (S22,S22+)
Me as photographer i have a lot of pictures captured by camera with copies after editing and +70GB Whatsapp conversations and there is no way to backup this photos and conversation by authentic way ( tell me about Whatsapp local backup and restore or 99% stuck of cloud).

A0_o said:
Is there any solid backup system for Google Pixel phones (as Apple) ?
I am thinking to move for Pixel because in Samsung there is no reliable method to backup your data !!
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The Pixel phones used to have free unlimited storage for photos, but it seems to have been ditched with the release of the Pixel 6 series. You're better off buying a usb stick and putting all the data you can on it, or connecting your phone to your computer and backing up your data that way.

Misterxtc said:
The only thing I miss on my 21 Ultra is the 100x zoom, it took some great shots of the moon. I have a 6 Pro but ordered the 7 Pro so I'm excited to see the improvements.
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Yeah, I have the s22 Ultra and also like taking the moon shots. What's interesting is that, in anticipation of the 7 pro, I tried dialing back the s22 ultra zoom to 30x. I think the pix at 30x were better than those at higher zoom, so I'm hopeful the 7 pro zoom will still be pretty good.

Akira_Kitsune said:
The Pixel phones used to have free unlimited storage for photos, but it seems to have been ditched with the release of the Pixel 6 series. You're better off buying a usb stick and putting all the data you can on it, or connecting your phone to your computer and backing up your data that way.
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Defect point here is you have to do this manually if you have multiple paths or files.

A0_o said:
Defect point here is you have to do this manually if you have multiple paths or files.
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I do have multiple paths.
And I have a short makefile that synchronizes my Android(s) with the desktop using my AdbSync.exe (in the sig).
Of course you coud use batch (or shell) files and plain old ADB.

I currently have Samsung S22 Ultra. I was a devoted Note fan until the Note 7 and fire-starting issue. I have owned every pixel model since the beginning. Got rid of the 6 because of the bugs. My initial units of the 5 and 6 pro had hardware issues and needed to be exchanged, so I did not take Google's trade in offer on my ultra.
I love the ultra because of the spen (I have big fat fingers), but prefer the pixel os and it's exclusive features over One UI. Not a fan of the Sammy's photo processing either. My 7 Pro comes today and I will use it for a while to decide which one to keep.
Thank God for Swappa or I would be broke from buying the latest greatest smart phones!