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[Q] USB Internet Tethering. Can Verizon control this like the WiFi tether?

As many of you are aware, the Thunderbolt offers USB Internet Connection mode. This allows you to connect your thunderbolt via USB to a PC and use the phones internet connection. This is similar to the WiFi tethering thats currently free for a limited time. Eventually Verizon will start charging for WiFi tethering, but I'm wondering if they have the ability to cut off (unless your pay) the Internet Connection mode once the promotion ends.
The difference I've noticed is that the WiFi tethering is an actual installed application (hence very easily controllable by VZW), whereas the Internet Connection mode is embedded into the operating system (evinced by the fact thats its in the menu options, as well as the option to change what type of connection you want when you plug the USB cable into your computer).
I think once the promotion ends for free WiFi tethering, the USB tethering will still work and remain free unless VZW pushes an update to non rooted phones preventing this?
I ask because I just switched from my Thunderbolt (very poor battery etc even when rooted) to a Droid Charge. I instantly noticed that when I check the settings for internet connection mode, its not 'integrated' in the same sense as the Thunderbolt. Instead, both the WiFi hotspot tethering, as well as USB tethering are in essence a 'third party' application, which upon being launched, present you with a message stating the ability to tether is free during the promotional period, and thereafter you will be charged for data usage.
Any input on this? It's a shame to see it completely changed on the Droid Charge.. Maybe Verizon missed out on the Thunderbolt and USB tethering will always be available for free? We shall see in the months to come.

I know the word of a VZW store associate isn't really worth anything, but, before I bought my ThunderBolt, I was told that wired tethering will go "under the radar", as long as the data usage "isn't too much". The rep directed me to download "PDANet" from Market for this functionality, and she didn't even know at the time that native wired tethering was present on the ThunderBolt.

Also pdanet has been removed from the market though you can just download the apk from their site and install it now. Also I have not herd of anything with verizon but i know AT&T did send out a message to all the people that were using free teathering apps on thier iphones a text messages letteing them know they would be charged if continuing use. I guess Cell companys can tell if your using them some how.

thetwiztidfreak said:
Also pdanet has been removed from the market though you can just download the apk from their site and install it now. Also I have not herd of anything with verizon but i know AT&T did send out a message to all the people that were using free teathering apps on thier iphones a text messages letteing them know they would be charged if continuing use. I guess Cell companys can tell if your using them some how.
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ATT never sent me a text and I dont have a tether plan. I am a heavy barnacle user at work, makes my 4gclear look like a joke. My gf just got a fascinate(galaxy s), and it seems verizons has native blocked-ish. i rooted my boss's captivate (galaxy s), and he has no tether plan, and he uses USB tether at work everyday. He didnt get a message either. But my GFs natives /ad hoc make her go to the verizon web site.
I'm worried now about using my barnacle. It should be someting like. 3g free, pay for 4g, something lame like that, rather than be phonenazis.

dumb question, how do you use the USB tethering?
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I doubt it has anything to do with app vs. built-in functionality... they can't "easily track it" just because it's an app. I think it would have to do with the way the packets are being routed, and I don't know *how* they're (supposedly) tracking it when you use wifi tethering, so I wouldn't be so sure they won't be able to track it via USB.
It could have to do with looking for packets for protocols that apps don't support (bittorrent?). I'm really not sure. Anybody know the details of how they can tell?

dbow32 said:
dumb question, how do you use the USB tethering?
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in settings - > wireless & networks at the bottom there is internet connection mode.

Just bringing this topic back up, but I tried this mode today, and I got a popup like this. It seems they can find out about ICM. I guess this sucks for those of us who thought we could get away with it.

what25 said:
Just bringing this topic back up, but I tried this mode today, and I got a popup like this. It seems they can find out about ICM. I guess this sucks for those of us who thought we could get away with it.
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This, my friend, is why god invented PDAnet.

Yep... Pdanet works flawlessly. Go find it, worth the leg work. It's not in the market, but still very easy to find and set up.

miketoasty said:
This, my friend, is why god invented PDAnet.
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I don't use PDANet. I use Wireless Tether and then tunnel all traffic through an encrypted VPN, so Verizon has no way to identify the traffic. Also secures things on public WiFi.

nerozehl said:
then tunnel all traffic through an encrypted VPN,
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Can you point me to a tutorial on how to set up the vpn part of this?
I've already got wireless tether installed and working.

zxsix said:
Can you point me to a tutorial on how to set up the vpn part of this?
I've already got wireless tether installed and working.
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What O/S are you running on your server? If you're running FreeBSD, I'll gladly give you the configuration scripts/files I'm using.

nerozehl said:
What O/S are you running on your server? If you're running FreeBSD, I'll gladly give you the configuration scripts/files I'm using.
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No server of my own. Windows 7 x64 machine.
I think my router has vpn capability. I'll play with that.

Normally I use PPTP and L2TP/IPsec VPNs for work, but I used OpenVPN instead since it's easier to use and doesn't require too much server-side work. It's natively supported in CM7 and you can get a binary of openvpn with a nice GUI on the market, if you're using Froyo or the new GB leak.
Make sure your phone's kernel supports TUN/TAP. If enough people care about setting up tunnelling, I'll make a post somewhere with a full tutorial.
Here are some of my configuration files (FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE)
/usr/local/etc/openvpn/openvpn.conf:
Code:
# OpenVPN configuration on Mephisto
# Up/Down Scripts
up /usr/local/etc/openvpn/up.sh
down /usr/local/etc/openvpn/down.sh
# Bridge/Adapter and UDP/IP settings
server-bridge 10.4.11.10 255.255.255.0 10.4.11.200 10.4.11.220
port 1194
proto udp
dev tap0
keepalive 10 120
comp-lzo
# Force all-traffic tunneling and push a DNS server
push "redirect-gateway def1"
push "dhcp-option DNS 67.19.72.206"
# Certificate locations
dh /usr/local/etc/openvpn/keys/dh2048.pem
ca /usr/local/etc/openvpn/keys/ca.crt
cert /usr/local/etc/openvpn/keys/server.crt
key /usr/local/etc/openvpn/keys/server.key
# De-escalate permissions
user nobody
group nobody
# Logging information
status /usr/local/etc/openvpn/openvpn-status.log
verb 4
mute 20
/usr/local/etc/openvpn/up.sh: (chmod +x)
Code:
#!/bin/sh
# xl0 is the ethernet NIC on this server
/sbin/ifconfig bridge0 create
/sbin/ifconfig bridge0 addm xl0 addm $dev up
/sbin/ifconfig $dev up
/usr/local/etc/openvpn/down.sh: (chmod +x)
Code:
#!/bin/sh
/sbin/ifconfig bridge0 deletem $dev
/sbin/ifconfig bridge0 destroy
/sbin/ifconfig $dev destroy
/etc/rc.conf: (snippet to show what you need to add for OpenVPN)
Code:
gateway_enable="YES"
if_tap_load="YES"
openvpn_enable="YES"
openvpn_if="tap"
openvpn_configfile="/usr/local/etc/openvpn/openvpn.conf"
openvpn_flags="--script-security 2"
Make sure the following kernel states are enabled:
Code:
net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1
net.inet.ip.fastforwarding: 1
These files are for FreeBSD, but the configurtion file should work on any implementation.

I take it apps like barnacle and wireless tether go undected right?
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lrs421 said:
I take it apps like barnacle and wireless tether go undected right?
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.
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So far i didn't get notices while using wireless tether. Never used barnacle tether though.

I remember reading somewhere about a 3G phone on Verizon that when you turn on the native hotspot app, the NAI used by the phone to obtain an IP address for your networked devices, and subsequently service the IP requests for those devices, is made through a DIFFERENT NAI than the phone when you are making requests from your mobile phone.
There must also be some other differences. Recall a while ago in the general forum someone made a complaint about their Thunderbolt mobile browsers being unable to access images from imgur.com. I experienced the same issue. The REALLY wierd thing though is that if I turned on hotspot and went on my laptop through the hotspot, I COULD see images on imgur.com. This means that native wifi hotspot also sends you to a different DNS server than internet requests made through the phone.
It would be interesting to see at what level that happens in the application/operating system/radio stack. It's possible (likely even probable) that wired tether apps specifically like PDAnet somehow work around these differences. If the NAI is spoofed or if the requests are masked to look like they are coming from an application on the phone, I don't see how it is possible for Verizon to know the difference, or ever limit it. They would have to do deep packet inspection and see what you are doing with your internet traffic at the application level, which I think would be much more trouble than it is worth, not to mention bordering on illegal.
tl;dr: I don't think Verizon can ever stop PDAnet.

I know that so far I have not had any issues on my Dinc using both the wired and wifi tethering native in OpenVPN. If verizon gets too smart about it all I will just set up a VPN to hide everything from them even more

I believe the native browser on the thunderbolt didn't give you the option of being recognized as a mobile browser or desktop browser, which could affect the way certain websites will show.
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Port forwarding with FoxFi or other options

So I have been looking for a way to say goodbye to AT&T's U-Verse and their terrible service/billing.
Now that I have a galaxy S3 and there is decent LTE coverage at home, I would like to use my Unlimited LTE as my main internet service.
This has worked out well tethering with FoxFi and I usually get around 15mb/s down / 6 mb/s up.
However I cannot figure out how to get incoming connections to uTorrent. I don't torrent very often but I like to maintain a good ratio and there are some things which I will seed forever, to make sure they are still available.
I haven't yet rooted my phone though I'm comfortable with it from prior experience. I wouldn't mind rooting it but if I can avoid it for the time being, why bother?
Has anyone had any trouble with Verizon and torrents on an unlimited plan? I don't use an exorbitant amount of data but I wonder about my privacy.
I would be very appreciative if someone could show me how to port-forward or otherwise open my phone to incoming connections from uTorrent through tethering. I have also considered using a VPN to increase my privacy, so if I could use that with my phone connection, I would be very happy.
Thank you to any who devote their time to my cause.

Sorry, I dont have a solution for you. but i would like to know the answer to this as well

i torrent just fine when tethering my Galaxy nexus on verizon (using PDAnet) i use about 20gigs a month or so and the max i ever went with it was 60gigs. but i have not torrent in a long time and have been using my tethering for WoW and L4D2 and downloading steam games

Whoa, you're on u-verse and having bad service and bill? Might want to shoot me a private message to talk about it and I can take a quick looksee of what's going on (I'm a tier 2 technical support agent for u-verse, and you wonder why I'm on Verizon Wireless )
Anyways, the only thing I've learned is that setting up utorrent on the phone is a pain in the ass but will work (been awhile since I've done it) but only when it's on 4G, if it's on the 3G network it won't let you do it (I can't point my figure on why).

scsa20 said:
Whoa, you're on u-verse and having bad service and bill? Might want to shoot me a private message to talk about it and I can take a quick looksee of what's going on (I'm a tier 2 technical support agent for u-verse, and you wonder why I'm on Verizon Wireless )
Anyways, the only thing I've learned is that setting up utorrent on the phone is a pain in the ass but will work (been awhile since I've done it) but only when it's on 4G, if it's on the 3G network it won't let you do it (I can't point my figure on why).
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Thanks for the consideration. I'll be in touch.
I tried to use uTorrent on my S3, but the private tracker I use only allows supported clients. There is no Android option available. I am going to suggest they add one, but in the mean time, I'm wishing I could run a Linux client on my phone or figure out a way to enable incoming connections over a WiFi/USB tether. Don't know where to start with that, though.

You might want to look at your computer's built in firewall. From my understanding of port forwarding it allows certain traffic to bypass a firewall to a specific client. I don't recall foxfi having any built in firewall so anything connected to it should be in a DMZ
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Jarredw said:
You might want to look at your computer's built in firewall. From my understanding of port forwarding it allows certain traffic to bypass a firewall to a specific client. I don't recall foxfi having any built in firewall so anything connected to it should be in a DMZ
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The built in firewall doesn't block incoming connections when I am using my home wifi (I have set up port forwarding in the router). The only thing I change is that I connect to FoxFi and the port is no longer accessible from outside (no connections are being made to upload in uTorrent.)

BUMP?
Has Anyone gotten anywhere with this, I know its not a firewall somewhere down the line the port is getting blocked but all my firewalls are off....
Mike

androidkitty said:
Thanks for the consideration. I'll be in touch.
I tried to use uTorrent on my S3, but the private tracker I use only allows supported clients. There is no Android option available. I am going to suggest they add one, but in the mean time, I'm wishing I could run a Linux client on my phone or figure out a way to enable incoming connections over a WiFi/USB tether. Don't know where to start with that, though.
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You should see if they support tixati. I have had nothing but problems with utorrent in the past couple years. Tixati may not look superior at first but it has all the same options plus more. Probably what really draws me to tixati is it allocates the files before download.

VPN Fixed it, Kinda
androidkitty said:
The built in firewall doesn't block incoming connections when I am using my home wifi (I have set up port forwarding in the router). The only thing I change is that I connect to FoxFi and the port is no longer accessible from outside (no connections are being made to upload in uTorrent.)
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Hey I had the Idea to set up a VPN on the computer, and It did fix the connection problem, got the green, BUT my DL speeds went to crap, Which makes sense, So I guess if you wanna either find a decent VPN provider that can handle the through put could possibly solve the issue...I just jumped on the first free one I came across..
Hope It Helps
Mike

Which VPN did you use eventually mike ?

dumbledon said:
Which VPN did you use eventually mike ?
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I Started with OpenVPN, which worked OK, But was a PITA to setup, I eventually went to a free VPN through a website, and client configuration, They'd change the password daily, you just jump to the site, log-in get the new Password and your good to go, Speeds where about the same...
And It's been awhile, but I found out the the Issue was AT&T blocking certain websites (Including at the time, My Free Host for my Forum which is now on a VPS..) and have since moved to T-mobile....
Been Awhile and memory isn't as great as it was, Hope this is what you are looking for,
Mike

wifi tether

Hi guys,
I am loving the Nexus 5. I've ordered it, and should be here in 2 days. Only issue is, I need the program android-wifi-tether https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ to be working on this phone.
You see, I have a data plan from my carrier which DOES NOT ALLOW you to tether = (. However, the program wifi tether works great to get around this. Previously I used to use an App called Fox-Fi which did something similar.
Currently I'm running a TW based Samsung S3, because WiFi Tether will only work on TW-based roms, not AOSP-based roms.
Do you think there is any chance to get WiFi Tether, (or similar) App that will work on the Google Nexus 5?
Thoughts?

It looks like the biggest requirement is Netfilter, which is essentially IP tables. Try installing IP tables, and see if the program will run. Otherwise, you can always use another tethering app like easytether, or another program (I know that there are loads out there). If you are rooted, it should not be much of a hassle to install.

Es Filexplorer will do it for you once rooted and a great file management app also

Thanks guys. I'll give it a shot once device is in my hands. Thanks.

Another method for this I use that sometimes works is to tether using the default app and just use a User Agent switch in google chrome for HTML traffic. My video games as well as spotify ETC work like normal I only need the UA switcher for traffic within the browser.

Wait, am I missing something here? OP, tethering is a standard feature in Nexus phones, esp now that Verizon is out of the equation.
Why can't you just use the built-in tethering? If it's an issue of your provider being able to track that, then I don't think any of the 3rd party tools are going to help. Typically, just a user-agent switcher can take care of the problem on the device that you're tethered to.

I'm dealing with this issue right now. I had a note 2 running macks rom on my sprint note 2 that let you hotspot free. The N5 tether/hotspot does not work. We need a work around..

Engineer4life said:
I'm dealing with this issue right now. I had a note 2 running macks rom on my sprint note 2 that let you hotspot free. The N5 tether/hotspot does not work. We need a work around..
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My carrier has 2 data plans. 6gb for $30 gives you LTE and tether/hotspot. Or Unlimited LTE for $45 -but tether/hotspot is disabled/not allowed.
I'm on the $45 plan and built-in tether does not work. But the app "wifi-tether" gets around this and works Great!
The issue isn't user-agent. With built-in tether I can't even get a data signal. It will create the a dud Wi-Fi hotspot.
Let's hope IPTables works! I'm sure Bluetooth tether and USB tether may still work, but is much more annoying.

prettyha8 said:
My carrier has 2 data plans. 6gb for $30 gives you LTE and tether/hotspot. Or Unlimited LTE for $45 -but tether/hotspot is disabled/not allowed.
I'm on the $45 plan and built-in tether does not work. But the app "wifi-tether" gets around this and works Great!
The issue isn't user-agent. With built-in tether I can't even get a data signal. It will create the a dud Wi-Fi hotspot.
Let's hope IPTables works! I'm sure Bluetooth tether and USB tether may still work, but is much more annoying.
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which version of the wifi tether app did you use that works? It seems some versions are picky about some phones I just want to get everything I need for when my Nexus 5 arrives

orthonovum said:
which version of the wifi tether app did you use that works? It seems some versions are picky about some phones I just want to get everything I need for when my Nexus 5 arrives
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For my TW-based Samsung Galaxy S3, I used the file "wifi_tether_v3_4-experimental1.apk", then I changed the SSID and changed the WPA2-PSK phasephrase.
*** I think the trick was, if you did NOT change the default SSID or added a WPA2 password the App did not work. After you set a WPA2 password, you can then turn off encryption or change the SSID back to default.
But I don't think know if this will work for the Nexus 5. **Fingers-crossed!

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There is another thread with more discussion on this matter here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512674

prettyha8 said:
The issue isn't user-agent. With built-in tether I can't even get a data signal. It will create the a dud Wi-Fi hotspot.
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Is that the case on a Nexus device or something else? In theory my plan doesn't allow tethering, but I've never had an issue with the built-in hotspot. I'm just trying to figure out how your carrier would even know you were using a hotspot versus having data requests come from the phone itself. The traffic should look the same, for the most part.

bobalias said:
Is that the case on a Nexus device or something else? In theory my plan doesn't allow tethering, but I've never had an issue with the built-in hotspot. I'm just trying to figure out how your carrier would even know you were using a hotspot versus having data requests come from the phone itself. The traffic should look the same, for the most part.
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I believe when you tether, your phone creates a secondary data connection pipe for tethering data. Apps like WiFi-Tether spoof this, and can even create an internal proxy server, such that all tethered data will look like on-device mobile browsing data.
My carrier let's me only create one data connection, thus tether is not allowed. However if I insert my SIM into a "MiFi device", then I can "share" the data connection, as only 1 data connection is being established.
I MIGHT BE WRONG, but this is what it looks like is happening in my findings. Hence the use of IPTABLES to re-route.
I'm not sure why AOSP-based custom Roms could never get WiFi tether working, but TouchWiz (TW) based roms could. I assume something in the kernel. However, I need this working badly.

Interesting, I'd never really given the process a detailed consideration but that sounds like a plausible explanation for both how they detect it, how they block it, and how software modifications let you get around it.

I am currently using wifi tether on evo lte on sprint, fine. Thinking of getting nexus 5. Will this app work on it? that link to the other thread was about tmobile and data plans and stock hotspot app. I am interested in wifi tether app with root. What are the settings to make this work on N5?
Thanks

Dungeon47 said:
There is another thread with more discussion on this matter here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512674
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Dig through this thread. Somewhere there's a post explaining what to do to stop your carrier from checking if you are tethering. It requires editing a database and changing the proxy to ipv4 instead of ipv6.
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Unlimited Tethering LG V10 Tmobile H901

So i've been a user of xda for quite sometime, however i never really contributed before so i'd like to share my latest discoveries and hopefully i can help someone in the future.
(Please note this is for intermediate users i will not be going into full details. Feel free to google any keywords here for further information)
Please note this will erase your device!
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for anything you do to your device ie: damages. Proceed at your own risk
This is a tutorial on how to get unlimited tethering on an LG V10 Tmobile
First you will need to unlock bootloader and get TWRP so you can flash SuperSU and get root.
I used a combination of these two guides. DOTtech i just used to get LGUP. I do not believe the .kdz (refurbish) step is necessary.
https://dottech.org/198032/how-to-root-lg-v10-t-mobile-h901-on-android-6-0-marshmallow/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-v10/general/root-android-6-0-h901-t3382819
make sure you use this .tot file from xda (most updated, July) link
once you have flashed the tot file. make sure you download supersu and save it on your phone. Link Here .You will need to boot into recovery mode. The best way i found to boot into recovery mode is to use "adb reboot recovery" command via adb command terminal. For help on setting up adb, usb debugging, and oem unlock. follow the youtube video below. Do not follow his recovery flash steps. (That is Outdated!). once you have adb set up, phone on, open a terminal, navigate to your adb folder and run the "adb reboot recovery" command. Phone will boot into TWRP. Find your SuperSU file. Flash it. You are now rooted!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPLwFGxLQA4
once you have root....
you will need wifi tether router from fabio grasso. Buy it. best money ever spent.
next you will need to edit your build prop.
download es file explorer. build prop is just a text file. enable root explorer in es file explorer. navigate to your root folder/system.
under system you will find build.prop. open with es text editor. at the end of the text file insert
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
hit back. and it will ask you to save. save it!
This will allow our wifi tether router app to work properly.
reboot your phone.
open your wifi tether router app. The most important setting here is under method. Use Native! This will tell wifi tether router to port it's connection through your native hotspot app.
You should now be ready to go.
Now, how do we prevent Tmobile from noticing our traffic is being tethered?
We need to change a few settings on our computers. You will want to change your defaultTTL to 65 (decimal) on all your PCs.
For details on that follow this youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZOqm98kzIU
for windows 10 its a little bit different. Use this command in a terminal.
netsh int ipv4 set glob defaultcurhoplimit=65
This should prevent Tmobile from noticing and counting your hotspot data.
If i missed anything, please feel free to message me along with any other questions.
Cheers!

Hi,
What are your setup parameters for Wi-Fi Tether?
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Encryption wpa2-psk
wifi channel 1
interface wlan0
method 4 -native tether
auto disconnect wifi when start tethering (check)
wifi scanning autodisabler (check)
i also root disabled all tmobile apps especially com.tmobile.pr.adapt
Good Luck!

When was the last time you've checked your usage? I'm using a vpn (in addition to build.prop and settings.db "hacks") as well, so not sure how they see it now. I'll change my TTL on the pc as next precaution. Vpn used to be the bullet proof method, but they're getting sneakier.

RussianBear said:
When was the last time you've checked your usage? I'm using a vpn (in addition to build.prop and settings.db "hacks") as well, so not sure how they see it now. I'll change my TTL on the pc as next precaution. Vpn used to be the bullet proof method, but they're getting sneakier.
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My apologies to everyone, i guess my post was a little premature. I just got the text message today saying i've used 80% of my mobile hotspot. RussianBear, i am interested in your settings.db hack. What is the purpose of that hack, and also what vpn do you use?
The TTL was a game changer for me with my S5. The problem i am running into with the LG V10 is that in the wifi tether router app, the hostapd method would not work anymore. I "enable wifi router" and i can't see my hotspot.
Russianbear, how far along have you gotten with this. Maybe we can help each other. Can you see your hotspot via wifi tether router? What are your wifi tether router settings? The only way i was able to activate it was with the Native method, however i believe the native hotspot embedded with the phone sends packets to tmobile.
I was wondering also if a custom rom can help me in this situation. It seems as though the native hotspot does not allow third party apps like "wifi tether router" to activate the hotspot. Can anyone recommend a good stable custom rom that can help me accomplish this?
Cheers!

jontav said:
My apologies to everyone, i guess my post was a little premature. I just got the text message today saying i've used 80% of my mobile hotspot. RussianBear, i am interested in your settings.db hack. What is the purpose of that hack, and also what vpn do you use?
The TTL was a game changer for me with my S5. The problem i am running into with the LG V10 is that in the wifi tether router app, the hostapd method would not work anymore. I "enable wifi router" and i can't see my hotspot.
Russianbear, how far along have you gotten with this. Maybe we can help each other. Can you see your hotspot via wifi tether router? What are your wifi tether router settings? The only way i was able to activate it was with the Native method, however i believe the native hotspot embedded with the phone sends packets to tmobile.
I was wondering also if a custom rom can help me in this situation. It seems as though the native hotspot does not allow third party apps like "wifi tether router" to activate the hotspot. Can anyone recommend a good stable custom rom that can help me accomplish this?
Cheers!
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I'm using private internet access vpn. Not currently using any play store apps, just my native usb/wi-fi tether, but it looks like they upped their game this month, as I've already ran out of hotspot data lol
The settings db "hack" was forcing zero flag inside a settings database. In MM it was moved to this location:
/data/system/users/userid/settings_[system|global|secure].xml"
On V10 it's under global.xml - search for tether_dun and make sure that's 0.
You can also try using adb or terminal emulator and execute commands found here:
https://pmf.silvrback.com/fixing-tethering-on-android-kitkat

I'm using the same settings but my usage keeps going up
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I have to find a way to get wifi tether router working on this phone. Wifi tether plus DefaultTTL will fix this. If anybody tries wifi tether and gets it to work with LG V10 please let me know. Maybe its my phone. I did use the .tot file in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-v10/general/root-android-6-0-h901-t3382819
I'm thinking maybe that might have corrupted something and is not letting me activate my hotspot via wifi tether router.

Looks like adjusting ttl has worked for now.

RussianBear said:
Looks like adjusting ttl has worked for now.
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Can you please explain where and how you did this?

I'll try this, but dont think it will work. I've used Wifi Tether Router alot before, but that was before Tmo started cracking down on heavy tether users not too long ago. Now if I try to use it, they always notice quickly. I also did the no provisioning trick but same results. I created a new APN with a guide I found, same thing. I didnt change any values on my other devices' end. I've heard it helps if you use a different DNS server but dont know for sure. It may also help if you use a different user agent.
I do believe the days of unlimited tethering with Tmo are over, I've tried lots of tricks but didnt get far.

luckydog98 said:
Can you please explain where and how you did this?
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use the video from the op above.
AnonVendetta said:
I'll try this, but dont think it will work. I've used Wifi Tether Router alot before, but that was before Tmo started cracking down on heavy tether users not too long ago. Now if I try to use it, they always notice quickly. I also did the no provisioning trick but same results. I created a new APN with a guide I found, same thing. I didnt change any values on my other devices' end. I've heard it helps if you use a different DNS server but dont know for sure. It may also help if you use a different user agent.
I do believe the days of unlimited tethering with Tmo are over, I've tried lots of tricks but didnt get far.
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Invest into a good vpn service.

@RussianBear: I actually use a VPN on my phone most of the time. However, by default, Android wont direct tethering to a VPN. I found a guide awhile back that shows how to use terminal commands to forcibly route through a VPN, it worked for quite awhile, but Tmo caught on eventually. I made sure the VPN and my script were already running before activating tethering. A VPN is supposed to be encrypted, so how they detected ne is beyond me. I guess they saw the sheer amount of data I was using and suspected tethering (over 500GB in one month, at the highest point).

AnonVendetta said:
@RussianBear: I actually use a VPN on my phone most of the time. However, by default, Android wont direct tethering to a VPN. I found a guide awhile back that shows how to use terminal commands to forcibly route through a VPN, it worked for quite awhile, but Tmo caught on eventually. I made sure the VPN and my script were already running before activating tethering. A VPN is supposed to be encrypted, so how they detected ne is beyond me. I guess they saw the sheer amount of data I was using and suspected tethering (over 500GB in one month, at the highest point).
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Can you not enable vpn on the clients instead? I have my asus router set up with my vpn settings, so anything connecting to it automatically gets passed thru the vpn ip instead. Lower your ttl on desktop/laptop, do the build.prop entry, set ipv to 4 in settings, and set tether dun to 0 in settings.xml (I made a script for that). You should be to go with your vpn then.

Honestly I see almost no point in having unlimited tethering since your data is slowed down around 26gbs. I'm fine with the 7gb I have rn. If I were to make use of unlimited tethering, I'd need truly unlimited since I do very heavy usage on any of my computer's. Usually 700-900 GB a month(and that's only download. Upload is around 200gb a month). Used to have an at&t business hotspot that I paid $125/month and used 300 or so GB a month for three months with no slow downs on it.

xBØYxTØYx said:
Honestly I see almost no point in having unlimited tethering since your data is slowed down around 26gbs. I'm fine with the 7gb I have rn. If I were to make use of unlimited tethering, I'd need truly unlimited since I do very heavy usage on any of my computer's. Usually 700-900 GB a month(and that's only download. Upload is around 200gb a month). Used to have an at&t business hotspot that I paid $125/month and used 300 or so GB a month for three months with no slow downs on it.
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Gotta pay to play. They "prioritize" your after 26, so it's not like it'll be slow 24/7. Annoying, sure. However, I haven't had home internet going on two years now. Worth it to me, based on my usage. With this tmo one stuff, they offer unlimited tethering, but of course, your primary usage has to be from your phone...

The victory was only half-way declared... They somehow know when device(s) that connect to my router are tethered. Router is setup with an openvpn configuration and connects to the vpn server automatically. All IPs check out, as well as ttl values, but they're still able to tell. One thing that was strange was if I did not enable vpn thru the router, but instead thru the client, the speeds remained constant - undetected. This is fine and dandy, but I'd lose my chromecast functionality this way... If things get rough and I can't finger this one out, I might hop onto to their unlimited everything for $95/month instead of the simple choice one I got now.

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use the video from the op above..
Invest into a good vpn service.
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If you have good home internet with VPN supported router, you can run VPN through your home

mingkee said:
If you have good home internet with VPN supported router, you can run VPN through your home
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Yes, but somehow they can tell...even with a vpn setup thru a router.

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Yes, but somehow they can tell...even with a vpn setup thru a router.
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They can tell tho the t mobile app the one the shows your data you have to delete it and delete this the one that has the red # by it, that how they track you and can see everything on your phone and know it you have root or not and anything you do on your phone .

bypass hotspot/tethering on oreo

I have just updated my s8 plus on att yo oreo and I was wondering if there was a way to get the wifi sharing/hotspot up and running. I've tried a few things but they wont let me connect to the internet through the device

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I have just updated my s8 plus on att yo oreo and I was wondering if there was a way to get the wifi sharing/hotspot up and running. I've tried a few things but they wont let me connect to the internet through the device
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Try adding "DUN" to APN type
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FatalONEM8 said:
Try adding "DUN" to APN type
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That won't work. I just get a message saying that apn type is not available on this device.

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Try adding "DUN" to APN type
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My buddy has the s8+ on att I know how to change it on my sprint phone with shortcutmaster but I can't get his to do how I did mine how can I change his

You can replace AT&T firmware with the unlocked firmware and native hotspot will work. However you will lose VoLTE and Visual Voicemail. FoxFi wifi direct works pretty well if you only need it for web browsing and to connect a couple of devices. However if you want things like Xbox it won't work because Xbox doesn't have a place to use a proxy server.
Instructions for replacing carrier firmware with unlocked:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3625817

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You can replace AT&T firmware with the unlocked firmware and native hotspot will work. However you will lose VoLTE and Visual Voicemail. FoxFi wifi direct works pretty well if you only need it for web browsing and to connect a couple of devices. However if you want things like Xbox it won't work because Xbox doesn't have a place to use a proxy server.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3625817
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Replacing the firmware is an option but it also requires starting all over again and you likely won't get OTA's. As much as I don't care for ATT's bloat and blocking wifi tethering, everything else works really well and they keep the phone up to date. So here is what I've found as a nice workaround, PDANet and FoxFi. So PDANet does have a restriction will you will have to pay to get around but its a one time fee so not that big of a deal. PDANet has both wired and wireless hotspot capabilities (thanks to wifi direct) so you can use it however you prefer. It even has an option to hide your tethering from your carrier. What I've been doing is tethering my phone to my laptop, then (thanks to Windows 10) I go to the mobile hotspot option in my windows 10 settings and enable that. Now my laptop becomes the mobile hotspot and I can connect my PS4 Pro to that. So the phone shares the connection, the laptop picks it up, then the laptop shares to other devices. Yeah its a bit messy but its super simple to setup and works great. Hope this helps someone else.

That's a great idea with the laptop.
Your best bet when going unlocked is to start fresh so that would be a bummer. I can confirm that you still get OTAs.