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Why do tablets do the processing work?

Why do they bother to still design tablets with the CPU/GPU on board? When I think about the future of windows with windows 8 I think about tablets being heavier to run the x86 architecture and I wonder why not just use something like intels widi and transmit only the picture to a tablet and have a server plugged in doing all the processing, maybe even running another instance or switchable session of the OS attached to a standard desktop display/keyboard mouse. The tablet would of course still need a processor but only to process a ready to go image, audio and to interpret touch inputs and transmit them to the server. This would allow for larger batteries and be much more cost effective in the long run.
Of course we will still need today's style for outside the home/office but like the desktop there is still a market for the LAN only machines.
Maybe this is already available and someone can point me to where I can buy it now! :x

You want the cloud? Not ready yet. Until then, splashtop will have to do. Also, botnet.

jdeoxys said:
You want the cloud? Not ready yet. Until then, splashtop will have to do. Also, botnet.
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No, nothing over the internet. I'm simply talking about a wireless display with a battery but one that can transmit touch inputs. Not sure how else to put it but if you have seen the wireless transmitter and receivers for HDMI, similar to this.

Does anyone see where I'm going with this? Windows 8 is touch screen but the best I could find that are desktop-like is the dell ST2220T which only has 2 touch points that is not cetified for windows 8 which I believe accepts up to 4.
Next I looked at tablets and there are a few budget(if you can call $500 with a small display, bad/slow graphics card and little storage budget) that look promising but could easily have 100 hardware issues that would drive me nuts and then theres the name brand stuff like samsungs $1,000 pc tablets which still suffer from built in gpu's that suck.
My idea would simply be the cost of a screen and battery if you already own a desktop with say, intel widi (wireless display) and some sort of input receiver to receive the touch commands from the tablet display. The performance would be virtually unlimited!

Are you basically talking about a device that connects through your local network to a transmitting PC running an OS of your choosing? Sort of like a portable monitor that doubles as a touchscreen?

Constant wifi or similar connection would drain the battery as well. Also, that would require a whole separate computer to run the system itself (if you're doing it at home), or a fast, VERY low latency broadband connection to a cloud (so forget about the device being very cheap just because you have to somehow pay for the server-side as well). Otherwise you'd be struggling with laggy UI which is the exact opposite of what everyone wants.
So... not for a few more years... or decades

Tristanlogd said:
Are you basically talking about a device that connects through your local network to a transmitting PC running an OS of your choosing? Sort of like a portable monitor that doubles as a touchscreen?
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Like a portable monitor with touchscreen that transmits touch inputs/commands wirelessly back to the desktop just like a mouse.
I don't think transmitting through networks is a good idea and thats why I mentioned the Intel WIDI wireless display technology that is already in most new Inte'ls so all we would really need to change on the PC side is a customized wireless receiver for the touch inputs.
Hell, I'm thinking about calling a friend who is an EE and getting something made if nobody else is...lol.

aard said:
Constant wifi or similar connection would drain the battery as well. Also, that would require a whole separate computer to run the system itself (if you're doing it at home), or a fast, VERY low latency broadband connection to a cloud (so forget about the device being very cheap just because you have to somehow pay for the server-side as well). Otherwise you'd be struggling with laggy UI which is the exact opposite of what everyone wants.
So... not for a few more years... or decades
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Eh the technology is here with http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/intel-wireless-display.html
Using wifi isn't efficient, but tablets use most of their energy on the display and processing. Since all you would be doing is signal processing vs actual computation @ the tablet end you would use considerably less juice. Like Half.

You are talking direct wireless connection from tablet to monitor, not going through a wireless router or connection? Interesting idea, but why not just go through a wireless connection? Wouldn't this also kind of tether you to your pc? Splashtop or Logmein allows you to do this anywhere.

Tristanlogd said:
You are talking direct wireless connection from tablet to monitor, not going through a wireless router or connection? Interesting idea, but why not just go through a wireless connection? Wouldn't this also kind of tether you to your pc? Splashtop or Logmein allows you to do this anywhere.
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All I'm talking about is a PC or laptop with a second display thats wireless. Then we call it a tablet because it has a touch screen that sends signals back to the PC or laptop to move the mouse or rather gestures. Not cloud computing, I have done this and it's terrible. Cloud is basically remote desktop which is choppy and worse then current tablets. What I'm talking about would make the performance increase as Intel claims virtually no latency with WIDI and even 5 milliseconds would be hard to notice considering how laggy android is as it's basically a virtual machine.
Hereis a clip I just found, not sure if it's available yet but:
Now ASUS brings another solution to the table, the WiCast, which can be connected to any computer and any television and promises latency-free 1080p video and audio.

Streaming issues(please help)

Hey everyone just got my shield I'm very pleasantly surprised by the quality of the gamepad. So I've run into an issue when I try to stream certain games that are supposed to be supported. What will happen is I choose a game i.e borderlands 2 and my computer goes to load but it gets stuck on a screen with the shield logo and the mouse will show loading but nothing will happen however when I try to stream through steam everything works just fine thank you guys in advance for helping out

ApexoftheVortex said:
Hey everyone just got my shield I'm very pleasantly surprised by the quality of the gamepad. So I've run into an issue when I try to stream certain games that are supposed to be supported. What will happen is I choose a game i.e borderlands 2 and my computer goes to load but it gets stuck on a screen with the shield logo and the mouse will show loading but nothing will happen however when I try to stream through steam everything works just fine thank you guys in advance for helping out
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It's hard to understand what you are talking about here. If you can load through steam big picture, and it works more reliably, then just stick to using that. The individually supported games (outside of big picture mode) are a convenience in case you aren't logged in to steam, but ultimately, using Steam Big Picture on this is quick and works VERY well. Of course, there are bugs and kinks, but for BETA software, it's impressive. Occasionally, I find that the GeForce experience application will "lose" the streaming feature, and requires a computer reboot.
Also, I find it best to launch the PC streaming while in a strong wireless network environment (i.e., closer to your router), then move to a distance farther away. Launching and getting the initial sync seems to be very dependent on network strength initially...once launched, the setup seems to handle streaming glitches better.
For example, I generally have a hard time launching from my 3rd story bedroom so I move downstairs, launch, then head back up stairs and it works great. I have no idea why I can stream reliably upstairs, but often have trouble getting streaming to launch initially!

Thanks for taking time to help you seem to be picking up what I'm putting down I tried again the other day and it worked OK, the entire streaming seems a little inconsistent at times. Just out of curiosity would it be significantly more stable if the geforce PC was connected through a hard wire?
P.S I just got VPN working can't wait to try it out

ApexoftheVortex said:
Thanks for taking time to help you seem to be picking up what I'm putting down I tried again the other day and it worked OK, the entire streaming seems a little inconsistent at times. Just out of curiosity would it be significantly more stable if the geforce PC was connected through a hard wire?
P.S I just got VPN working can't wait to try it out
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Way more reliable to use an ethernet cable yes. I personally believe a person should always attempt to go ethernet first and only use WiFi for devices which are by their nature portable or if there is no way to practically route a cable there. My desktop is shamefully on wifi as I would have to run the cable through the dining room, hall, up some stairs, across a hallway and across my room. Going through walls is not so much an option in a house thought to be 150 to 200 years old, however I do have thin walls so get a great WiFi signal at least.
WiFi has significantly higher latency than a hardwired ethernet cable.
Only advantage of wifi really is the lack of a cable. Makes things quite straightforward.

every time i try to stream it kicks me off the game shortly after it starts. i have the newest update and i have the newest drivers and steam beta, i even tried the optimus fix just in case. but games just won't stay connected. my pc is hardwired(1gbps). i'm thinking its my router which is saddening because it works nearly flawless for everything else in my house(the router). its N300 and gbps wired but its not 5ghz..

[Q] WMC Compatibility with Shield Streaming

I posted this same topic on the Nvidia GeForce forums but also wanted to see if anyone here has input. Any thoughts are welcome on the topic:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...sion/wmc-compatibility-with-shield-streaming/
After doing some testing today I have narrowed down some problems I am having with Shield Streaming to using Windows Media Center with Xbox 360 extenders.
I have streaming setup and working just fine on my Windows 7 64 box with a GTX 760 - no issues. Once I connect an Xbox 360 as a WMC (Windows Media Center) extender everything still works fine. I can watch TV while streaming Bioshock Infinite - no issues at all.
The second I disconnect the Xbox 360 Extender (and the associated RDP session used by WMC is killed) something goes wrong. The streaming tab disappears from the GeForce Experience Preferences tab - my PC is now listed as offline from the Shield.
I have tried changing the language as well as restarting the streaming service from services.msc - nothing will get the Shield to connect once I have connected and disconnected a WMC Extender session from the PC. The only fix is rebooting - and things work fine again until I connect/disconnect with a WMC Extender.
Can anyone help with this? I am hoping there is some kind of work around or fix that can be made to resolve this issue. Since the PC for the Shield needs to be online all the time having it also act as a HTPC running WMC is a natural fit - so I really would like to avoid the expense of having to dedicate a separate PC to act as a HTPC and another for Shield streaming.

I see the exact same issue with Win 8.1 and MCE. SHIELD tab / GameStream only works when a 360 extender is connected, once no extender is connected the SHIELD tab is not present and GameStream fails.

Android on W1-810

This is a windows tablet, but I think it would be cool to have this run android as well, so I tried a few emulators running under windows 10, but they are very slow, unstable or didnt run at all. Doid4X, an Nox worked, Andy refused to start).
I kept the Nox App Player, cause that was the one I found most responsive of these.
Perhaps the fact that they barely meets the minimum RAM requirement is a major cause for it being slow.
Then I decided to try the android-x86, which is not an emulator, but an andoid port to x86, and will run natively.
The Lollipop EFI image does work as a live usb media , and I was able to install it to another usb stick, but that got stuck on the aandoid logo when booting. The 4.4r3 EFI image did work better, and was able to install to a second usb stick and boot up into android.
I must say that android-x86 did impress me. It feels quite quick and responsive, and any app I have tried so far does run. Even MineCraft PE works well. The display and touchscreen works well, and volume buttons works.
There are a few driver related issues though, here is a list of some things not working:
- onboard wifi
- onboard Bluetooth
- Sensors (auto rotate will not work)
- Audio out and mic
- Power button
- Battery status
- Camera
I did a few tests, and as a workaround I did use an external usb wifi adapter to get internet working. Also connecting a usb headset with mic did work fine, external keyboard. Also a non branded bluetooth adapter was accepted and the BT icon was enabled, but it didnt find any devices when searching. Even a logitech webcam did work with opencam.
Given the current state of andoid-x86 on this tab, it doesnt make sense to partition the disk to get a dual boot. But if there was working drivers for wifi and audio etc, this could be a decent android system.
Now the android version of the tab 8 looks quite similar to the w1-810, so that makes me wonder how much of the hardware components that are the same. And if it may be possible to get the drivers from the original android to work on android-x86.
I will try to list the hw configuration as I can read from devicemanager/drivers in win10:
wifi: broadcom 4330 / Sound: intel SST audio device / camera: Intel Imaging signal processor 2400 / Bluetooth: BCMBTBUS / Sensors: BMA2x2 ( BMA250E) / Battery control hardware ID is PNP0C0A
Any ideas on how to get these things working would be great.

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I did tag this thread with iconia-tab-8, but for some reason it will not show under "Acer Iconia Tab 8 Discussion" list.
Did I miss something, or doesnt the tag system work properly.
Is there anything I can do to fix this?

I also have this tablet and I am also eager for installing fully functional Android on it. Please guys help us on this. Thanks in advance.

News about Acer Iconia Tab W1-810 with Android
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How to connect three stand alone laptop displays to a raspberry pi. 3b

I had a project where I wanted to make a laptop with three displays but since I don't have the money to buy a proper x86 motherboard or cpu I opted for a raspberry pi, the problem is I haven't been able to find a way to connect three laptop displays with the pi!!
Don't worry about the software, I am going to download a port of windows(a beta)
Which supports more than one display, thank you for any contributions