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[Q] [Poll] Did you choose to root/flash your S6?

So the security system KNOX and the mobile payment system Samsung Pay has started the controversial debate about rooting/flashing your new S6/S6 Edge..
While we still are months (years?) away from a fully working system and large merchants adapting the system, it is still a very valuable and kind of cool feature to have on your phone.
But when you're browsing the forums you see custom ROMs and mods that could further power your S6 to unlock it's full potential and with root you can of course modify your Android experience to just the way you want it.
We have also yet to see a release date for other countries than the US and China. I live in Sweden and doubt I will see Samsung Pay working here since the magnetic terminals rarely can be used because of the chip-security VISA and MasterCard require.
The question still resides.. Is it worth tripping KNOX and losing Samsung Pay, which might never even come to your country (or at least not in 1-2 years), for unlocking Androids full power and the S6 full potential?
To flash or not to flash, that is the question...

I'd love to root, but it's not available for my version yet. I'm also not clear on what Samsung Pay does for me that's better than Google Wallet.

flu13 said:
I'd love to root, but it's not available for my version yet. I'm also not clear on what Samsung Pay does for me that's better than Google Wallet.
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Samsung Pay uses MST technology in addition to NFC, meaning that you can pay with your phone virtually anywhere credit cards are accepted.

flu13 said:
I'd love to root, but it's not available for my version yet. I'm also not clear on what Samsung Pay does for me that's better than Google Wallet.
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MST technology

Whaaaat?? How does that work? How will it work with an old-fashioned magnetic card swipe reader? Crazy.

flu13 said:
Whaaaat?? How does that work? How will it work with an old-fashioned magnetic card swipe reader? Crazy.
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It emulates an magnetic field that works exactly as you should swipe your card.

That makes my head spin.

I rooted. I have no desire to pay with my phone.

So do we know 100% that root definitely kills the option for Samsung Pay? Or that with Knox tripped it will negate Samsung Pay? I've read about here and there but I guess I haven't quite seen if someone actually tried to use the pay after root and it didn't work?

highaltitude said:
So do we know 100% that root definitely kills the option for Samsung Pay? Or that with Knox tripped it will negate Samsung Pay? I've read about here and there but I guess I haven't quite seen if someone actually tried to use the pay after root and it didn't work?
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According to SamMobile tripping KNOX will disable Samsung Pay.
We've yet to get any official statement though, right?

ZoZo- said:
According to SamMobile tripping KNOX will disable Samsung Pay.
We've yet to get any official statement though, right?
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I am looking at buying one to replace my wife's S4 and hadn't really read up on it a whole little yet. Thanks for the info I had not looked there. Next time keep the attitude to yourself.

highaltitude said:
I am looking at buying one to replace my wife's S4 and hadn't really read up on it a whole little yet. Thanks for the info I had not looked there. Next time keep the attitude to yourself.
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I'm sorry, you must've missunderstood me.. I didn't mean to have any attitude. I was mainly trying to get confirmation if there were any official statement from Samsung since I don't know if there is any..

No problem, guess I took it the wrong way too. It was just how it was written the "though?"
Anyhow, I have rooted (between my wife and I) our last 8+ phones so naturally I am looking to root the S6 when we get one, just wanted to find out for sure if it made things worse. I suppose if I am not going to use Sam Pay then it wouldn't matter. I just would rather not lose options or features. I did see a thread of a DEV that claims to have achieved root without tripping KNOX. Not sure if it will make it's way to us or not.

highaltitude said:
No problem, guess I took it the wrong way too. It was just how it was written the "though?"
Anyhow, I have rooted (between my wife and I) our last 8+ phones so naturally I am looking to root the S6 when we get one, just wanted to find out for sure if it made things worse. I suppose if I am not going to use Sam Pay then it wouldn't matter. I just would rather not lose options or features. I did see a thread of a DEV that claims to have achieved root without tripping KNOX. Not sure if it will make it's way to us or not.
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Same here! Always been rooting the phones, when you have the option of complete flexibility with the OS, why not?
Yea, better to have the possibility of the feature, even if one will use it or not, than to lock yourself out directly, hopefully that Dev has found a way and if so it won't be long time before it gets to us.
Also, since installing Nova Launcher Prime I haven't really had the need to root it since the phone is blazing fast and you can you hide away the apps you don't use/want to see in the drawer.

root access to S8 or S8+

does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access

Yeah I also want to root it. Plz anyone tell the method.
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Won't be a method until it's released, then I'm certain the devs here will start cracking on it. Give time, the guys here are pretty good at what they do but there's still no guarantee root will be achieved (US models that is).

waninae39 said:
does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
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Root will happen
(If not I'll be suprised)
Look at s7 edge (exynos) if you want to have the approximate method.
Once twrp is released, I bet around the beginning of Mai, you will be able to install it using Odin (breaks knox, s pay, etc)
From there you'll be able to flash whatever you want (magisk, SuperSU, etc)
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Although I just stumbled over this:
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Finally, the Exynos 8895 also includes what Samsung is calling an “enhanced security sub-system with a separate security processing unit” for use with user authentication, mobile payments, and the like. Based on Samsung’s description this sounds a heck of a lot like Apple’s Secure Enclave, which would be a very welcome development, as in Apple’s case it has made their phones a lot harder to break into.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/...-8895-soc-10nm

yeah, saw on their website that encryption layers are going to be a lot stronger. I still think it'll be cracked. It's a large enough phone. just might take longer than normal.

Even root on Verizon's locked bootloader?
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Yea root not enough for me, also need unlocked bootloader

geez the phones not even out yet. Gotta give the devs time to get there hands on the phone, then time to actually find a way to root it.

Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?

I bought this phone knowing it's going to be at least a year before at minimum root being achieved
if at all ,so I'm not getting my hopes up at all
This phone might be the straw the breaks the developers backs
I only needed a rooted phone for ARU unchained anyway ,but since the area51 got it to work unrooted
I can afford to wait

The Phone Company said:
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.

Zeal415 said:
i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…

Zeal415 said:
i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.

The Phone Company said:
What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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I hear you, preference I guess, I just like being up to date. I find that sometimes you are unable to use certain features without the updates.
I have the note 4 myself, and the only update that was a problem with that phone was MM, you could not downgrade from it. I have the AT&T variant so, no root access, and the current temp root that they have listed on the forums is not viable because your only temp rooted on experimental testing firmware.
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
bryce850 said:
I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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Thanks! Now I know.

Zeal415 said:
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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Haha, Buzby (as I call it) is the one INTRUSION I do NOT want!! Never asked for it, just forced upon us. This would be great, but I suspect the Phone already has Bixby embedded into it, what with all the hype (publicity for it) about it not functioning at launch I believe is a marketing ploy to bring attention to it. The part that is not being made available at launch is their end, nothing to do with needing an update for it to work (for those who blindly want it).
See, you watch, they will make such a big deal, like a major announcement when it is made to function and they "switch on their Bixby servers" it'll be posted all over the web like when the Note 7 fiasco (supposedly) happened.
Stop for second. And think. THINK. For yourself. That right there is invaluable advice. Bixby is not your friend.

bryce850 said:
I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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I use it also from my S7 Edge. Works just fine. I have the BT version of the Gear S3 tho. Pay dont work with international(the one on amazon) version of the S3.

No Need Root ?

i don't think i'm going to root my phone this time it has all the future and it freaking fast and blotware less , gonna give samsung apps a chance and use then for good . if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
i got myphone yesterday.

I will be rooting so I can use Viper4Android, AdAway and Titanium Backup

saifullah90 said:
if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
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IMHO, the main purpose for rooting is to boost the device security and privacy: to stop google, facebook et al. from spying on you.

I will root mine too, so i can use AFWall+, ADBlock, Tasker and Titanium Backup

saifullah90 said:
i don't think i'm going to root my phone this time it has all the future and it freaking fast and blotware less , gonna give samsung apps a chance and use then for good . if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
i got myphone yesterday.
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I've found that the best way to satisfy my rooting urges these days is to keep a stock Pixel handy and a Nexus 5x for rooting goodness. These other phones (be it Samsung, LG, HTC) I am now leaving completely stock and will enjoy them for what they are. Other than light debloating and an occasional launcher change, there just isn't the desire anymore to root these and ROM them up.
I'm on the T-Mobile JOD plan, and for those of you that also happen to be...it has come to light that T-Mobile doesn't have a way of tracking whether or not customers are using only 3 JOD's a year in their database. MEANING, you can theoretically jump into a new (or the same phone if you have issues w/ your current JOD phone) every 30 days if your heart desires. I jumped from the LG v20 to the dreaded iPhone 7plus within a 45 day timeframe while waiting on the s8+ release. I plan to hold onto it until the upcoming Note release, buttttttttt I guess it depends what else is released in the interim!

To think that you can stop Google or Facebook from spying on you with root is humorous, they don't care about you, unless you're in some terrorist group or something... There's a no-root adblocker for Samsung called Adhell, it works through modifying Knox, no VPNs, and works as well as any root adblocker. The S8 also has a built-in DAC that lets you modify sound settings like Viper

Annie the Eagle said:
I will be rooting so I can use Viper4Android, AdAway and Titanium Backup
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All I need is viper4android but I'm on tmobile and when I rooted my s7e it was never the same so with that being said my note 4 is rooted with all that I need for listening to loud tunes or podcasts for work... and I'll be keeping my s8+ unrooted because it's just too smooth and lag free for me at the moment hoping it doesn't crap out in a couple months....

The reason I was going to root was so I could force the phone into LTE only mode, but the 4G switcher app works and does that so now I don't really have a need for root!

Rooting mainly for full automation through tasker. Shell commands, GPS, etc needs root. Being able to do per apps settings for full screen, battery/performance, timeout and hw buttons.
I guess bixby button remapping would be another reason for root.
Except for this it looks like there's not that many more reasons to root anymore..:
Adhell and Adblock plugin for Sammy browser should take care of advertisemens and as sound settings and other functions in the ROM seems very good this year, so I'm not too bummed out if root doesn't happen.
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Always prefer XDA and Root ftw!

I pretty much stopped flashing different roms when I got my note 4, not that I had a huge choice since root came late. But when I did flash a ton, it was just a stock debloated and tweaked one.
But my number one reason for root is ad blocking. I absolutely hate ads. So I really only want to root my new s8+ so I can run ad block and install xposed to get the YouTube adblocker.

How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?

vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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Perhaps they dont have snapdragons....

vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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An exploit has to be found. One can have root with a locked bootloader obviously.
Of course an unlocked bootloader allows us to flash recoveries, custom roms and other goodies.
I do miss Titanium.
And centered clock and custom icons.
Package disabler pro helps a lot.
I had to kill bixby. Hitting that button when trying to turn down the volume and having that interrupt me was really annoying.
I'd like to have that button dedicated to something.
But for now, it's a dummy.

cpufrost said:
An exploit has to be found. One can have root with a locked bootloader obviously.
Of course an unlocked bootloader allows us to flash recoveries, custom roms and other goodies.
I do miss Titanium.
And centered clock and custom icons.
Package disabler pro helps a lot.
I had to kill bixby. Hitting that button when trying to turn down the volume and having that interrupt me was really annoying.
I'd like to have that button dedicated to something.
But for now, it's a dummy.
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try bixremap it launches bixby then a mili sec later opens google now , you just need to undisable bixby from package disabler first

vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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well once we got the chance i guess, but im skipping the root on s8 not necessary

saifullah90 said:
well once we got the chance i guess, but im skipping the root on s8 not necessary
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I HAVE to have Viper. Android should buy V4a and have it as a stock feature on all their phones.

Eddiemc said:
...for full automation through tasker. Shell commands, GPS, etc needs root....
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+1000
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I wont be rooting because Verizon. that's why

vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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S7e boot was locked but we all rooted anyway different root from the norm tho....

How to root the G970U?

What's the best guide to root the G970U? I'm finding guides for the Exynos variant but not so much for this one. Have even read that it can't be rooted or it isn't supported so far :crying:

As far as I know, the Snapdragon variant is not rootable. From what I understand, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Samsung has this one completely locked down.

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As far as I know, the Snapdragon variant is not rootable. From what I understand, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Samsung has this one completely locked down.
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I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.

rpgdev said:
I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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I would not recommend it. The form factor and specs are all great, although the battery is a bit on the small side. It has automated power savings features, except you can't control those easily with Tasker (you can with Bixby, but most of its profile triggers are pretty limited). And the power savings features appear to mute Google navigation when the screen shuts off.
But after being on custom roms since basically the beginning, One UI has been a gigantic pain to learn where all the settings are (and getting around not being rooted to do things I like/need). I could go on and on.
I put off upgrading for years for a smaller phone with decent specs. This was about the only option for me. I'd definitely recommend the Exynos version, but that's a no-go if you're in the US.

Too bad. I was just thinking about upgrading from my XZ1 Compact and this phone otherwise seems perfect:
1. NORMAL size
2. Fingerprint sensor on the side
3. SD card
4. 3.5mm plug

I can't root Samsung Galaxy S10e Snapdragon.
I already unlocked oem lock, kg lock.
But I can't find the right twrp for beyond0q. (no lte)
The office twrp is only beyond0qlte. It is no usable.
I flash TWRP_G9700_3.3.1-9.tar success.
but I don't know why I install magisk failed.

andTab said:
Too bad. I was just thinking about upgrading from my XZ1 Compact and this phone otherwise seems perfect:
1. NORMAL size
2. Fingerprint sensor on the side
3. SD card
4. 3.5mm plug
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rpgdev said:
I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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Actually, G9700 (snapdraon) variant of s10e is unlockable, but it is ture that few custom roms are available...

I would like to root just so I can have control over my phone, but I guess those Android days are over here in the US. ?
And it's sad because this phone is almost perfect. Having the fingerprint reader on the back and giving it a normal power button would make it so. Every company out there is a churning out overpriced phablets with a load of junk we don't need nor care for.

I also currently use a Sony, an X Compact. It's getting rather long in the tooth, but still works well. I have gone ahead and ordered a Snapdragon s10e, as there is really no other current phone in that size category. Hopefully between Nova Launcher, Tasker and Automate I'll be able to set it up to my liking. To be honest, I'm most concerned about the unusual placement of the hardware buttons: try to adjust volume without activating the fp sensor, etc. But I imagine I can get used to handling it differently. @andTab

pseudonym58 said:
I also currently use a Sony, an X Compact. It's getting rather long in the tooth, but still works well. I have gone ahead and ordered a Snapdragon s10e, as there is really no other current phone in that size category. Hopefully between Nova Launcher, Tasker and Automate I'll be able to set it up to my liking. To be honest, I'm most concerned about the unusual placement of the hardware buttons: try to adjust volume without activating the fp sensor, etc. But I imagine I can get used to handling it differently. @andTab
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I have a terrible problem hitting the Bixby and Volume keys when I try to press the power button. I had to use a re-mapping function to disable single & long press on Bixby.
Maybe I'll start a thread. I've managed to figure out almost everything I like to do, finally, with Tasker. A few things I need AutoInput for (which is far from ideal, unless it's a task you can do late at night when you aren't using your phone).
The single task I couldn't do satisfactorily was custom charging limits to try to save battery since I charge my phone overnight. That can only be done with root! Although this could maybe be accomplished by toggling the USB connection from charging to file transfer. But obviously that's not an option with wireless charging.

kodiak799 said:
...Maybe I'll start a thread. I've managed to figure out almost everything I like to do...
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Please do start a thread. Once I get my s10e I can contribute what I've been able to do using the few tools I'm familiar with.

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Actually, G9700 (snapdraon) variant of s10e is unlockable, but it is ture that few custom roms are available...
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Got a link for that guide? I dont care so much for having a custom rom flasher. I just want to root.

I have a G970U1. I have been trying to unlock the bootloader for several days with no joy. I can't get "OEM Unlocking" to appear in Developer Options. None of the procedures I've found online to make it appear have worked. Anybody here have any idea how to do it? Or, how to unlock the bootloader by any means?
Thanks!!

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I have a G970U1. I have been trying to unlock the bootloader for several days with no joy. I can't get "OEM Unlocking" to appear in Developer Options. None of the procedures I've found online to make it appear have worked. Anybody here have any idea how to do it? Or, how to unlock the bootloader by any means?
Thanks!!
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cuteness...

judaxxx said:
cuteness...
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Ehh?? I'm rapidly approaching a conclusion that Samsung has succeeded in making the bootloader on the G970U1 unbreakable. I'm really hoping for someone to prove me wrong. Please?

wseverin said:
Ehh?? I'm rapidly approaching a conclusion that Samsung has succeeded in making the bootloader on the G970U1 unbreakable. I'm really hoping for someone to prove me wrong. Please?
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This answer is kinda condescending and not helpful. I get it's a pain to explain the birds and bees all the time, but it's even more of a pain to browse hundreds of non-answers on XDA to find info.
@wseverin he's basically saying that the G970U/1 doesn't have an OEM switch in developer settings because it's not *factory unlockable*. Generally, only the EU, by forcing telecoms and Samsung through legislation, have phones with unlockable bootloaders.
Truth is, there IS a way to root the US version of the 10e. You can find various threads on XDA of people referring to Telegram channels where they'll charge you money to remotely root your phone.
They do this through either various hardware/software dongle bundles, or ENG firmware. The S7 / G930U was rooted with an ENG firmware flash - at the expense of battery life.
In this thread they talk specifically about using ENG firmware to unlock the bootloader of the G970U: https://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f1...sm-g975-sm-g973-sm-g970-2570127/#post13639840
For US devices the only solution is by flashing an eng-boot + script if it exists for your particular device/version.
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Whether or not that would work, I don't know. I've ordered a couple of S10e to test on. But I'm surprise that there hasn't been more work done to explore this solution on XDA. There used to be big bounties here to get root and bootloaders unlocked.

nick2012 said:
But I'm surprise that there hasn't been more work done to explore this solution on XDA. There used to be big bounties here to get root and bootloaders unlocked.
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Thanks for these infos which haven't been shared on XDA yet.
IMO those with the knowledge to root the G970U think that they can make more profit by selling the rooting service for 100 or 200 $ per phone than to collect the bounty (although I think that they are wrong with this.)
I'm quite annoyed by the posts on XDA which advertise the paid rooting service (like "contact me per PM to get further infos"), although I can't really care as an Exynos user.

Has anyone found a way to root sm-g970U in 2021 for android 11? or its just not worth the effort

No, I just bought one used from amazon for 300 euros and they sent me a SM-G970U....now I have to send it back and ask for a refund and get a SM-970F somewhere (for similar price range ofc, I live in Italy)....i'm almost sorry, it looks new

Strifelolz said:
No, I just bought one used from amazon for 300 euros and they sent me a SM-G970U....now I have to send it back and ask for a refund and get a SM-970F somewhere (for similar price range ofc, I live in Italy)....i'm almost sorry, it looks new
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Lol i know how you feel but dont because trust me if youre a root fan you arent gonna enjoy it tbh i sold mine like a few weeks after i got it and im just planning to get an Iphone and use it for the forseable future until i change my mind. If you love root dont buy the S or Note devices buy the j or A but if you dont like those i know because they are low end devices sometimes especially for a gamer..... so intead probably get a poco phone one of the newer ones with a snapdragon 860 or a xiaomi with flagship tier performance etc because i know xiaomi and google pixels there bootloaders can be opened and the warranty isnt voided permanently.... meaning once you unroot you get back warranty atleast thats what im sure ive noted.

Question Drawbacks of rooting?

I've heard that previous samsung phones disabled certain features, are there any known drawbacks for rooting the s22 ultra? Will magisk be able to hide the status?

Instantly lose warranty.
Troubleshooting will be harder as you alter the setup and make the device unique from the stock ones.
No going back once you trip the Knox e-fuse.
No secure folder or Knox functionality.
Trade-in option with Samsung or carriers is gone once the e-fuse is tripped.
The only way to revert the e-fuse trip is to replace the mobo as it's a physical eprom like breakable link within a chipset likely a big proprietary BGA.

blackhawk said:
Instantly lose warranty.
Troubleshooting will be harder as you alter the setup and make the device unique from the stock ones.
No going back once you trip the Knox e-fuse.
No secure folder or Knox functionality.
Trade-in option with Samsung or carriers is gone once the e-fuse is tripped.
The only way to revert the e-fuse trip is to replace the mobo as it's a physical eprom like breakable link within a chipset likely a big proprietary BGA.
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so what exactly is the knox functionality?

damaisnland said:
I've heard that previous samsung phones disabled certain features, are there any known drawbacks for rooting the s22 ultra? Will magisk be able to hide the status?
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You also lose Samsung Pay, and some apps actually need Knox on (banking apps mostly).

joancolmenares said:
You also lose Samsung Pay, and some apps actually need Knox on (banking apps mostly).
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How about google pay? Also is there no way around using the banking apps?

damaisnland said:
How about google pay? Also is there no way around using the banking apps?
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I think you have to install some stuff like Safety Net for banking apps to work, no idea if GPAY is affected but I'm assuming it is

joancolmenares said:
I think you have to install some stuff like Safety Net for banking apps to work, no idea if GPAY is affected but I'm assuming it is
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thank you

Correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't magisk hide allow GPay to work?

damaisnland said:
How about google pay? Also is there no way around using the banking apps?
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Banking apps, google pay work with magisk and zygisk just fine.

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Banking apps, google pay work with magisk and zygisk just fine.
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so in terms of software, everything will work but the phone wont be elligible for things like trade ins?

damaisnland said:
so in terms of software, everything will work but the phone wont be elligible for things like trade ins?
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I don't know about the other stuff but banking apps work fine with magisk+zgysik+adaway combination.

Root is now a personal choice. Where I am it does not void the warranty. A hardware failure must still be covered. As far as everything else goes you just need to decide if it's worth it. Last time I rooted the only real benefit I got was AdAway. Sure I could use Titanium Backup, but there was no point in it anymore. Using magisk-hide made G-Pay and everything else work and I could run a custom kernel but it actually wasn't worth the hassle. To me anyway....

If it weren't for the warranty and such, ZERO. I've been on Pixels for years and the first thing I do when I get a phone is unlock the bootloader so I can root when it's available. Viper4Android and DarQ are worth it alone. Not being able to root is going to be a serious adjustment for me.

Let's not forget that a (un)rooted samsung phone will also not be able to :
- run latest samsung health
- correctly pair with galaxy watch

You'll also lose access to all future updates.

DaReDeViL said:
Let's not forget that a (un)rooted samsung phone will also not be able to :
- run latest samsung health
- correctly pair with galaxy watch
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It's been fix with new patch, secure folder too
Only rooted phone now
- can't use SPay (GPAY is alternative) in mobile, still can use watch
- can't use Samsung pass (Google password alternative)
- No OTA (Can flash with odin)
- No warranty

dr.ketan said:
It's been fix with new patch, secure folder too
Only rooted phone now
- can't use SPay (GPAY is alternative) in mobile, still can use watch
- can't use Samsung pass (Google password alternative)
- No OTA (Can flash with odin)
- No warranty
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Sure but if you're UNrooted you're stuck anyway, isn't it?

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Sure but if you're UNrooted you're stuck anyway, isn't it?
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SPay and s pass yes, it will never work
Rest of things works again once we re lock bootloader

dr.ketan said:
SPay and s pass yes, it will never work
Rest of things works again once we re lock bootloader
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Oh! I just exchanged my unrooted relocked s21 with a brand new one just to regain use of samsung health which was refusing to work ...

DaReDeViL said:
Oh! I just exchanged my unrooted relocked s21 with a brand new one just to regain use of samsung health which was refusing to work ...
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This is thief - police game lol.
Dev community fix the issue and Sammy introduce new with new os update
But agree, development is pain on Samsung now a days, though on A12 everything good now except old SPay and s pass issue