I have a Canadian model Galaxy S22 Ultra (Snapdragon) and have an issue with how Samsung handles dual SIM set-up.
Here's my screen under Settings - SIM Card Manager.
https://imgur.com/a/1TjegB4
I want the Bell SIM (physical SIM) to handle most data-intensive tasks, but the Shaw one (eSIM) to handle SMS/MMS/RCS Messaging. It seems that if I set Bell as my Primary SIM, then the Shaw one won't allow MMS or RCS Messaging. It tells me to switch my primary SIM to Shaw if I want to do that.
It's been a while since I had a dual SIM Android phone but I don't recall having similar issues in the past. I don't think it's an APN thing either as these features work if only one SIM is available.
Any ideas? Apparently non-North American units have a more typical SIM Card Manager settings app that lets you specify which SIM is for data and which is for calls.
Maybe a regional Settings difference......?
My Note20 ultra (snapdragon) has more options in this regard:
Any idea if it's possible to get the SIM Card Manager APK from your phone? I doubt it would work but it's worth a try.
Someone in the Reddit thread I made about this mentioned it was indeed a North American thing.
Try either of these - see if it works......
(couldn't find a "SIM card manager".apk file)
Darn. The SIM Toolkit app won't install as it says the Package is invalid,and the SIMMobilityKit one just wouldn't install.
If someone with an S22 Ultra Snapdragon unit outside of North America could try, maybe that'll work
You could try flashing a non-North American stock Snapdragon ROM (e.g. China/ Thailand/ Korea)?
Anyone with a non-North American Snapdragon Galaxy S22 able to extract the SIM Manager app? Don't feel comfortable flashing a foreign ROM in case I brick ny phone or trip Knox
Looks like this is a more complex issue than what I thought. It's not a specific APK that's accessed when accessing the SIM Card Manager. Pulling a logcat reveals a process called "NU.SimCardManagerUtils"
Why Samsung cripples North American phones by limiting functionality of Dual SIM mode is beyond me (well OK, it's likely the carriers, but still.....)
Devhux said:
Anyone with a non-North American Snapdragon Galaxy S22 able to extract the SIM Manager app? Don't feel comfortable flashing a foreign ROM in case I brick ny phone or trip Knox
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FWIW there's pretty much no chance of tripping knox by flashing a signed fw and not unlocking the bootloader (not like you can anyways)
I am also curious at this and probably won't get to try flashing until my 2nd S22U arrives
I believe for some carriers Talk/Text/Data have to be on the same SIM card to make RCS work.
peteve said:
I believe for some carriers Talk/Text/Data have to be on the same SIM card to make RCS work.
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I would happily disable RCS to get better control over SIM card usage, but I don't think that's the case. RCS is supposed to be network agnostic, well except maybe AT&T where they just flat out hijack RCS.
I really truly wonder why anyone would still use that ****ty carrier tbh.
Yeah,this goes beyond RCS. Even downloading MMS messages from the non-Primary SIM won't work,and I've had no issues on iPhones or other Android devices. Even someone in my original Reddit post commented they can do it with an International phone (admittedly a Note 20, but it appears Samsung has been crippling the North American phones ever since they finally gave us eSIM.
Sadly I'm not a developer, so even if I flashed my phone with a ROM from a different region and compared logcat output from opening the same screen, I likely wouldn't understand what the differences are or what it's actually asking.
The s22 is different to my prior s21 in this way too. Before you could independently choose which sim did voice, data and SMS. Now it's one sim or the other for all three.
Wait, really? Were both from the same region?
If so, sounds like we'll have to try pressuring Samsung to put it back (however feeble that might be).
Devhux said:
Wait, really? Were both from the same region?
If so, sounds like we'll have to try pressuring Samsung to put it back (however feeble that might be).
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I actually think it's simpler the new way. Otherwise I had to toggle three items every time I switched sim.
Devhux said:
Darn. The SIM Toolkit app won't install as it says the Package is invalid,and the SIMMobilityKit one just wouldn't install.
If someone with an S22 Ultra Snapdragon unit outside of North America could try, maybe that'll work
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Did you have any luck with solving this?
dtg7 said:
Did you have any luck with solving this?
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Sadly no.
I am convinced Samsung is doing this in the Americas due to some backdoor deals with the carriers. The carriers do not want us to be able to use different sims for different things. They want you to have to purchase one expensive plan from them. This is the most compelling thing pushing me back towards the Pixel 6 Pro. Glad I still have it.
To overcome the MMS on the non-primary sim, I had to install a third-party messaging app. Pulsesms. I would rather use google messages.
For the phone calls, I just installed google dialer which lets you select the primary calling account (sim).
I have half a mind to file a complaint with my state's consumer protection board. It doesn't seem right that they can place these kinds of restrictions on US handsets, even if you buy it unlocked.
drfundy said:
I am convinced Samsung is doing this in the Americas due to some backdoor deals with the carriers. The carriers do not want us to be able to use different sims for different things. They want you to have to purchase one expensive plan from them. This is the most compelling thing pushing me back towards the Pixel 6 Pro. Glad I still have it.
To overcome the MMS on the non-primary sim, I had to install a third-party messaging app. Pulsesms. I would rather use google messages.
For the phone calls, I just installed google dialer which lets you select the primary calling account (sim).
I have half a mind to file a complaint with my state's consumer protection board. It doesn't seem right that they can place these kinds of restrictions on US handsets, even if you buy it unlocked.
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How do you mean "overcome mms in non primary via third party"? The problem is the non primary can't be used for data, and mms requires data.
The main problem here is use of data. Default sim for calling and texting can be set per contact thru the Samsung phone app. But data can't be switched to non primary. That's what there's no workaround for right now.
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How do you mean "overcome mms in non primary via third party"? The problem is the non primary can't be used for data, and mms requires data.
The main problem here is use of data. Default sim for calling and texting can be set per contact thru the Samsung phone app. But data can't be switched to non primary. That's what there's no workaround for right now.
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What I am saying is, that when I use pulsesms as my SMS app, it is able to send MMS using either number. I don't know how it does it, but it does.
With the google phone app, you can pick a sim card as the default for all contacts.
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I just pulled the trigger on a refurbished SM-P905 (Verizon) tablet. I would like to have the option of sticking my phone's SIM card in it and use the tablet as my phone (with an ear piece, of course).
What would I need to do to the tablet in order to make that work? Root? Install additional apps? Would CM12 work?
Assume that I have a Verizon cell phone that I would pull the SIM from and put into the tablet when I needed to use it as such.
Thanks!
I have the international version of the note pro SM-P905
from my previous knowledge,
any android tablet can be used as a phone except that phone calls will be heard through the speaker unless you use an ear piece.
I already have a phone sim installed on my note pro and it is working fine out of the box
I use it the sim for data and I made a few phone calls without any problems
no need for root or anything else
I don't know about Verizon note pro model but it is suppose to be the same
Thanks! I was concerned that the tablet wouldn't have the necessary phone apps and background software that it would need right out of the box.
I have the P905V as well.
I haven't tried a phone sim on I cant say for sure on the phone calls themselves.
however I am using a T-mobile tablet sim with text messaging and the text messaging does not seem to work on this tablet.
Verizon and sprint use CDMA for voice, SMS and 3G data
When they moved to LTE (Which is a GSM technology) they basically just added a sim card slot for data on top of the existing CDMA hardware.
Some Verizon phones also have the Sim slot enabled for GSM calling for people that travel internationally.
unfortunately most tablets (and even a lot of phones) dont have that feature and only use it for LTE
I suspect that this is the case here.
there is chance it might make calls if activated under Verizon though you would need a dialer installed. (Perhaps someone with one activated with Verizon could chime in if they have tried it)
The best option I've found on an alternate carrier is to use your google voice number in the hangouts app to make VOIP calls.
it works great for that and you basically have calling coverage anywhere you have data.
Groove IP also works pretty good and doesnt use much data.
unfortunately VOIP is the only option I know of.
On a side note, as stated above the international version has the full phone features in GSM format, this is often the case with international versions of tablets.
Sadly the US only versions often have things stripped out by the carrier, sometimes out of necessity and sometimes to push people to use their service etc.
Thanks for the info! That's exactly what I was afraid of, that the Verizon version of the OS on this tablet wouldn't include the phone/texting software. So I'm wondering if the CM12 rom does..?
Unfortunately while the Verizon version is rootable on android 4.4 there are no custom roms for it currently.
Also note that they released the 5.1 update for the Verizon model but its not yet rootable.
I've kept mine on 4.4 for this reason but a lot of people have opted to give up root for the newer software.
I know this all sounds like bad news but this is really an amazing tablet, I actually use it exclusively and no longer use windows at home.
I also often use it for calls over VOIP.
but unfortunately if custom roms and voice calls are what you are looking for in a tablet the international version would have likely been the better choice.
The Verizon Version does have a few perks due to the snapdragon 800 processor, charging faster being the biggest.
Thanks! I just purchased mine and its supposed to get here tomorrow. I'm probably going to send it back. I don't want to be stuck on 4.4 just so I can have root, and I don't want to deal with not even having root on 5.1. Then add-on that you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon version, and it's a no-go.
Hello,
I attempted to activate esim on t-mobile postpaid that did not go anywhere even though others have activated esim on pixel 3 before the t-mobile ban on postpaid accounts. T-mobile has stopped enabling esim on postpaid accounts for unknown reasons. It only enables esim on certain prepaid accounts and only on iphones.
Any other experiences with t-mobile or other carriers?
Confirmed working on Fi.
alphahere said:
Hello,
I attempted to activate esim on t-mobile postpaid that did not go anywhere even though others have activated esim on pixel 3 before the t-mobile ban on postpaid accounts. T-mobile has stopped enabling esim on postpaid accounts for unknown reasons. It only enables esim on certain prepaid accounts and only on iphones.
Any other experiences with t-mobile or other carriers?
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T-Mobile requires you use there app for esim. The iPhone is the only one that supports it at the Momment
I have T-Mobile and I was able to get the eSim activated on the 3a Xl . All I did was tell them I wanted to do a sim card swap and I provided the EID number. Took them a few minutes and they were done. BTW this was on a Postpaid account.
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I have T-Mobile and I was able to get the eSim activated on the 3a Xl . All I did was tell them I wanted to do a sim card swap and I provided the EID number. Took them a few minutes and they were done. BTW this was on a Postpaid account.
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Phone call or chat? I had no luck with chat.
Did you use the full esim number - that is a very long number. Trying to duplicate your effort.
Thanks
alphahere said:
Hello,
I attempted to activate esim on t-mobile postpaid that did not go anywhere even though others have activated esim on pixel 3 before the t-mobile ban on postpaid accounts. T-mobile has stopped enabling esim on postpaid accounts for unknown reasons. It only enables esim on certain prepaid accounts and only on iphones.
Any other experiences with t-mobile or other carriers?
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called t-mobile and gave them the full esim number. Then uses this guide. Works great!
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/a4507u/esim_works_heres_how_to_activate/
I got it activated on my Pixel 3a XL through chat. They asked me why I was changing sims, and I just told them I wanted to try out esim. They said ok and did the swap. I'm postpaid.
It's easier through chat because of the long EID number.
reddv1 said:
I got it activated on my Pixel 3a XL through chat. They asked me why I was changing sims, and I just told them I wanted to try out esim. They said ok and did the swap. I'm postpaid.
It's easier through chat because of the long EID number.
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I guess I've had really bad luck because I have not been able to get esim activated with chat twice. That's the way it goes we'll try again. It is hit and miss.
Thanks guys for the information. Did another chat this morning asking for sim activation. Did not mention esim. Completed in about 2 minutes did not even have to reboot my phone. Nice. I can use the physical sim slot for something else now.
alphahere said:
Thanks guys for the information. Did another chat this morning asking for sim activation. Did not mention esim. Completed in about 2 minutes did not even have to reboot my phone. Nice. I can use the physical sim slot for something else now.
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Yep! Throw in a micro sd card! ?????
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Yep! Throw in a micro sd card! ??
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Generally curious as I am new to the Android side of things. What can you use the SIM slot for if you do esim? What is the benefit outside of saying you don't need a physical SIM?
teegraves58 said:
Generally curious as I am new to the Android side of things. What can you use the SIM slot for if you do esim? What is the benefit outside of saying you don't need a physical SIM?
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I use an ATT MVNO Sim when I am not in a t-mobile area which is rare. I don't need two phones any more. One can do the same for the latest iPhone.
Actually there are other phones that have two sims like one plus, but two sim phones are rare in the USA but common in other countries. It has to do with the carriers. It would really nice if this feature discussed on the link below is included in android Q.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
So two sims phones hopefully will become the norm in the USA since iPhone has this option and everyone copies Apple. Anyway I could be wrong but I think the Pixel had the esim before the iPhone.
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Yep! Throw in a micro sd card! ?????
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That would be nice! Aint going to happen!
I'm self employed and having dual sim is huge for me, no more having to carry two phone is big. This implementation sucks compared to real dual sim where you can have both active but it's still ahead of packing two phones around.
alphahere said:
I use an ATT MVNO Sim when I am not in a t-mobile area which is rare. I don't need two phones any more. One can do the same for the latest iPhone.
Actually there are other phones that have two sims like one plus, but two sim phones are rare in the USA but common in other countries. It has to do with the carriers. It would really nice if this feature discussed on the link below is included in android Q.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
So two sims phones hopefully will become the norm in the USA since iPhone has this option and everyone copies Apple. Anyway I could be wrong but I think the Pixel had the esim before the iPhone.
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So at the moment, does your Pixel have DSDS capability? And if not (or before you enabled that functionality), are you at least able to take advantage of the physical sim slot by selecting it under network settings as the preferred option when you want to use the ATT network rather than the esim?
I had been using OnePlus phones with their dual SIM functionality for a long time by always keeping a T-Mobile SIM in one while using my China Mobile SIM in the other during my frequent trips into China. This enables me to keep a local number and avoid the internet censorship that is increasingly prevalent is most areas of the country.
DaveinAsia said:
So at the moment, does your Pixel have DSDS capability? And if not (or before you enabled that functionality), are you at least able to take advantage of the physical sim slot by selecting it under network settings as the preferred option when you want to use the ATT network rather than the esim?
I had been using OnePlus phones with their dual SIM functionality for a long time by always keeping a T-Mobile SIM in one while using my China Mobile SIM in the other during my frequent trips into China. This enables me to keep a local number and avoid the internet censorship that is increasingly prevalent is most areas of the country.
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
Also. Currently using dual SIM in China. You will need to do the following to make network work reliable with all apps. This is a problem with pixel phones.
https://www.evil42.com/index.php/archives/17/
I had this problem when I arrived in China. Now everything works great after the above modifications.
alphahere said:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...s-half-baked-dual-sim-support-to-the-pixel-3/
Also. Currently using dual SIM in China. You will need to do the following to make network work reliable with all apps. This is a problem with pixel phones.
https://www.evil42.com/index.php/archives/17/
I had this problem when I arrived in China. Now everything works great after the above modifications.
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Thanks for replying. However, I didn't really get an answer to what I was looking for. I had also previously read the article in Android Police and I know what DSDS is. My previous OnePlus operated as such. The article suggests that DSDS is no longer an option unless you elected it in an earlier beta release. HOWEVER, I only want to know whether you are able to choose one or the other between your eSIM and your physical SIM slot? You will not get both signals at the same time. I understand that. But I'm just interested to see if I can elect via Settings to choose either the eSIM or a separate SIM card and use that one only.
With respect to the contents of the evil42.com article, I fortunately don't have those problems. Thanks for your help.
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Thanks for replying. However, I didn't really get an answer to what I was looking for. I had also previously read the article in Android Police and I know what DSDS is. My previous OnePlus operated as such. The article suggests that DSDS is no longer an option unless you elected it in an earlier beta release. HOWEVER, I only want to know whether you are able to choose one or the other between your eSIM and your physical SIM slot? You will not get both signals at the same time. I understand that. But I'm just interested to see if I can elect via Settings to choose either the eSIM or a separate SIM card and use that one only.
With respect to the contents of the evil42.com article, I fortunately don't have those problems. Thanks for your help.
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Yes you can switch carrier without reboot.
See screenshots
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Yes you can switch carrier without reboot.
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Thank you for confirming!
Got my AT&T variant today. Doesn't look like eSIM funcationality is enabled. Second IMEI and eSIM shown but greyed out and no way to activate. Is this true? If so, does anyone know if unlocked version allows for eSIM use so you can get dual sim? I need dual SIM for both US (AT&T) and international travel (Singapore).
no dual sim on unlocked version either
uicnren said:
no dual sim on unlocked version either
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Really? Why put the eSIM in if you're just going to disable it?
well that's a bummer. Hopefully someone will come up with some firmware or we'll see a country release the 4G version of the phone that will work in the US and support dual SIM. I do, however, use wifi calling a lot and right now the iPhone seems to be the only choice that can be AT&T wifi calling compatible and dual sim.
Thanks for letting me know - i also had an order for the unlocked variant that I will cancel.
TGUY25 said:
.... I do, however, use wifi calling a lot and right now the iPhone seems to be the only choice that can be AT&T wifi calling compatible and dual sim....
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Pixel 4/4XL unlocked versions (as well as bought thru AT&T) will do Wi-Fi calling and HD Voice on AT&T (sometimes requires a little work on your part to bug AT&T).
Also, I cannot find anyway to do Wi-Fi calling on the Flip, let alone HD Voice, though it is perfectly clear with calls I have made so far.
I bought the ATT version of the flip so getting wifi calling. I didn’t think Pixel 4 was dual sim? Before various bans, I had decent luck getting HD voice on Huwawei phones but never WiFi calling unless ATT firmware (or iPhone)
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I bought the ATT version of the flip so getting wifi calling. I didn’t think Pixel 4 was dual sim? Before various bans, I had decent luck getting HD voice on Huwawei phones but never WiFi calling unless ATT firmware (or iPhone)
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Typical AT&T treatment of BYOD with regards to Wi-Fi.
Pixel 4's are physical SIM and eSIM.
Basically you can (if you find a tech who can/will) provision the account with an IMEI that supports those features, and your SIM is current, it will/should work. My 4XL is currently set up like this (and previous Pixels as well).
Thx didn’t know about the pixel 4 - I did the same thing with IMEI numbers. I bought a cheap galaxy phone from ATT for the sole purpose of having an IMEI that shows ATT. It won’t help WiFi calling which needs firmware support but has consistently gotten HD voice to work. Hopefully a different variant of the flip will show up with dual sim support that can be used on the ATT network
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I bought the ATT version of the flip so getting wifi calling.....
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Slightly off topic, but if you have a minute, could you post where the setting(s) for Wi-Fi calling actually are (if there is any), I'm curious to see if they are on mine (I can't find any as of yet).
Thanks.
It gave me the option to setup when I ran. Y hone setup. It’s all under connections in setting or you can search setting for WiFi calling. I believe this is only available with the ATT firmware
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It gave me the option to setup when I ran. Y hone setup. It’s all under connections in setting or you can search setting for WiFi calling. I believe this is only available with the ATT firmware
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I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something obvious, and yes, seems its only on AT&T branded device(s).
On the unlocked version, I was able to access the hidden SIM manager menu using Activity Launcher and enable the second SIM. However, even after doing so, it doesn't seem that I can do much with it.
I saw same you can see it but it's not really enabling it (under about phone, esim is still greyed out). I bought a European Version of the phone that is supposed to have dual sim enabled and is arriving tomorrow - I will report back if I can add my AT&T plan to the eSIM and use my SG SIM card on the second line and how it works. Even if I get that to work, i will have to give up wifi calling (since not an AT&T variant of the phone) and usually - Samsung pay doesn't work (but usually google pay does). i will report back. Love the phone but without the ability to use 2 SIMs, it will sadly be doing back.
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I saw same you can see it but it's not really enabling it (under about phone, esim is still greyed out). I bought a European Version of the phone that is supposed to have dual sim enabled and is arriving tomorrow - I will report back if I can add my AT&T plan to the eSIM and use my SG SIM card on the second line and how it works. Even if I get that to work, i will have to give up wifi calling (since not an AT&T variant of the phone) and usually - Samsung pay doesn't work (but usually google pay does). i will report back. Love the phone but without the ability to use 2 SIMs, it will sadly be doing back.
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I thought that the Wi-Fi calling piece was becoming more universally supported, regardless of variant. I have the unlocked version and Verizon Wi-Fi calling (and HD calling) are both working.
Hi, I got one in Czech Republic and the dual sim (eSim/normal Sim) dual standby. the setting for eSIM are under Connections>>Sim card Manager, there should be a section with eSIMS and you select 'add mobile plan' (in CZ you scan the barcode of the eSIM thats provided by the operator). Wifi calling is in the phone app under call settings and can be activated for both sim 1 and sim 2 at the same time
I got the UK version of the phone. I have an AT&T phone number on an eSIM and have the eSIM card (with the QR code). I removed the plan from my old device (a Galaxy Fold Dual SIM I bought in Singapore that worked fine with both SIMS) and then tried to "add the plan" onto my new flip. I scanned the QR code and get the message "Your mobile plan is already being used on another device. For more information, contact your service provider.: I called AT&T and advanced tech support added the new IMEI's(both physical and eSIM) to that number on their end but still getting the error. They were at a loss for a solution. Any ideas on how to fix this? Really love the phone though useless to me without the ability to use an eSIM for my AT&T number.
BTW, yes to calls over LTE (VoLTE) with AT&T SIM on UK variant of the phone and, not surprisingly, no joy on Wifi Calling
You need a new QR code from ATT. If you are using an older QR code it wont work.
Are both SIMs 3G capable?
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I got the UK version of the phone. I have an AT&T phone number on an eSIM and have the eSIM card (with the QR code). I removed the plan from my old device (a Galaxy Fold Dual SIM I bought in Singapore that worked fine with both SIMS) and then tried to "add the plan" onto my new flip. I scanned the QR code and get the message "Your mobile plan is already being used on another device. For more information, contact your service provider.: I called AT&T and advanced tech support added the new IMEI's(both physical and eSIM) to that number on their end but still getting the error. They were at a loss for a solution. Any ideas on how to fix this? Really love the phone though useless to me without the ability to use an eSIM for my AT&T number.
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I gonna buy the UK model and so I can use both my personal and company numbers on one phone.
My company's number is nano sim and the supports 3G and 4G
My personal number is esim and supports 3G and 4G
Neither my personal nor company number network support 2G.
I read somewhere that while Z Flip is dual sim, one of the sims only support 2G. is that right? Can anyone confirm it?
went to AT&T store, moved my old esim (galaxy fold) to a physical sim, activated and tested on physical SIM then converted it again to eSIM (new QR code). Worked! Had trouble going from eSIM to eSIM but converting to physical SIM in the middle of the process (something I read on another forum) fixed it.
I unlocked my note 10+ 5g from t-mobile, but it won't get service with verizon.
When I install a non-tmobile sim, the software does not switch from tmobile for some reason.
Also Sam Mobile only has t-mobile and metro pcs firmware availible for the sm-n976u
Does anyone know if there is a way to get the phone working with verizon? Thanks.
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Try clearing Sim card tool kit data.
Network reset.
Clear system cache.
Edit Access point names to correct values.
That's all I got but sure there's more. Never had use more than the above but never changed carriers. Verizon advanced tech support should be able to help... AT&T would.
The Verizon Note 10+ 5G has a different model number. So they probably won't allow the T-Mobile/Metro/AT&T version on their network
iBowToAndroid said:
The Verizon Note 10+ 5G has a different model number. So they probably won't allow the T-Mobile/Metro/AT&T version on their network
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I think you're correct. AT&T is compatible with Tmobile but not Verizon according to B&H Photo compatibility charts.
So it look like AT&T is in your future. AT&T is easier to deal with anyway. Do not use a corporate store though, use over the phone or online AT&T.
It may be possible to change out the C port PCB for the Verizon variant. Yes that PCB controls internet access. I can't confirm this is the only difference though! That PCB is only $20 and relatively easy to change out.
blackhawk said:
I think you're correct. AT&T is compatible with Tmobile but not Verizon according to B&H Photo compatibility charts.
So it look like AT&T is in your future. AT&T is easier to deal with anyway. Do not use a corporate store though, use over the phone or online AT&T.
It may be possible to change out the C port PCB for the Verizon variant. Yes that PCB controls internet access. I can't confirm this is the only difference though! That PCB is only $20 and relatively easy to change out.
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It's gets service with att, but it still has the tmobile boot logo. I flashed the att rom, but it didn't help. The carrier is supposed to automatically switch when you insert a different sim card right?
I also tried *#272*imei# but it says "unable to process the request"
CPR.OP546 said:
It's gets service with att, but it still has the tmobile boot logo. I flashed the att rom, but it didn't help. The carrier is supposed to automatically switch when you insert a different sim card right?
I also tried *#272*imei# but it says "unable to process the request"
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Is it on Verizon or AT&T???
My 60 second attention span is kicking in... now.
As for switching sims I never had to.
The boot logo is the least of worries.
Be glad you didn't brick it.
blackhawk said:
Be glad you didn't brick it.
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It's actually super difficult to hard brick a Qualcomm device, and even if it is hard bricked and only enters EDL mode, it can be fixed as long as you have the correct files.
There are too many safeguards in place between Qualcomm and Samsung - the average user will always be blocked from doing anything that would brick a device. There's really no danger in flashing firmware whatsoever
blackhawk said:
Is it on Verizon or AT&T???
My 60 second attention span is kicking in... now.
As for switching sims I never had to.
The boot logo is the least of worries.
Be glad you didn't brick it.
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I'm trying to use it with att because it won't get service with verizon at all.
It's very annoying having the tmobile bloatware. Also it should be compatible with att's 5g, but it only gets lte.
CPR.OP546 said:
I'm trying to use it with att because it won't get service with verizon at all.
It's very annoying having the tmobile bloatware. Also it should be compatible with att's 5g, but it only gets lte.
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So then I'm assuming that it did not automatically change over to the AT&T splash screen and bloatware when you inserted an AT&T SIM?
iBowToAndroid said:
So then I'm assuming that it did not automatically change over to the AT&T splash screen and bloatware when you inserted an AT&T SIM?
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Right. It does not have a multi-csc mode for some reason. I thought all samsung phones had that by default.
CPR.OP546 said:
Right. It does not have a multi-csc mode for some reason. I thought all samsung phones had that by default.
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Not all, no. But all U models should have it.
Have you tried doing a full Odin firmware flash including an AT&T USERDATA file?
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Not all, no. But all U models should have it.
Have you tried doing a full Odin firmware flash including an AT&T USERDATA file?
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Yes. That is what I meant by flashing the att rom. It does not seem to make a difference.
CPR.OP546 said:
Yes. That is what I meant by flashing the att rom. It does not seem to make a difference.
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I may have a way to do it. No guarantees though
iBowToAndroid said:
I may have a way to do it. No guarantees though
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I'm guessing the only option left is to root the phone, and then start manually removing things.
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I'm guessing the only option left is to root the phone, and then start manually removing things.
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My method doesn't involve root, no. You can't root if you've taken an OTA update in March of this year or later
I hope I can be of some help.
I recently ordered a Note 10+ 5G - Locked Verizon from a popular online re-seller. When I turned it on, I was greeted with an AT&T boot logo. I was pretty upset, but I though I'd try to get it up and running on Verizon before spending a couple weeks sending it back and getting a replacement. I tried Verizon's online software and I couldn't get beyond the IMEI change. It kept telling me that the Note's IMEI was what I was already using with my Droid, which was obviously not the case. So, I headed into my local Verizon store.
Nothing they did would get my 4G SIM to work, so they swapped out for a 5G SIM for free, then switched my hardware IMEI numbers and proceeded to have a some difficulty getting on the network. After doing a network reset, it seemingly worked. More on that below. I was getting both data and voice over network. I was able to transfer my setting, apps, etc from my Motorola Droid with Samsung Switch. The phone indicates both 3G and 4G signals as I travel around town. 5G is not available in my immediate area, though it is in some cities I occasionally travel to, but I'm unable to test that just yet. I become aware that there are differences between Verizon's 5G and other networks and it seems the non-Verizon phone I have is probably for the best in terms of compatibility.
Unfortunately, texts frequently take 10-30 seconds to send. Images, gifs and other non-text MMS can take multiple minutes to send and sometimes just fail. Other times the recipient will receive them twice. I feel like this may be due to the poor coverage at my residence. Further testing in areas of good to excellent coverage are necessary. I tried changing the network settings from Settings > Connections > Mobile Networks > Network Mode, but anything other than the default "GLOBAL" would result in a disconnect of data and voice services. The only way to fix it was Settings > General Management > Reset > Reset Network Settings. This would restore the Mode to GLOBAL and bring back data and voice services.
In an effort to remove the AT&T branding, I learned how to trigger a carrier switch, dialed the code and changed it from AT&T to XAA. That got rid of the AT&T boot animation and I was able to remove all but 2 stubborn AT&T apps. I noticed that my android version was 10 and UI was 2.5, so I set out to update.
This is where things got frustrating. Every attempt to update through the settings > software update was met with failure. Try again in 24 hours, it would say. I assumed this was because I was now using a Verizon sim on an AT&T firmware, but I wasn't sure. I thought I might be able to flash to a Verizon firmware, but after several versions and some more research, I learned that going from 976U to 976V was not possible.
So, over the course of several days, I learned a lot. I looked up the firmware releases on AT&T's website for the 976U and saw that they matched the T-Mobile and MetroPCS versions. So, I settled on a T-Mobile version of Android 11 / UI 3.1. It updated without any issues and even remained in XAA mode. No bloatware, no loading images, all settings and apps the same.
So, even though I have an unlocked AT&T Note 10+ 5G 256GB and you have a T-Mobile, the fact that we both have a 976U model, I think there is hope for you to get up and running on Verizon.
Hope this has helped.
Hello guys. I'm awaiting my eSIM code from my phone provider shortly and I'd like to ask a question (since I'm new to modding eSIM phones) if eSIM is saved in a designated read-only chip.
Example: I'm currently in an unsupported for Google country (where they neither sell Pixels nor support 5G, only VoLTE/WiFi) and would like to flash Calyx into the phone (and also patch ModemFix to unlock 5G capabilities in my country) at some point; Will I lose my eSIM profile? It will cost to retain my number back (10 euros for a new profile). Thank you for your answers!
RemoveKebab said:
Will I lose my eSIM profile?
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What do you mean by that? Even if wiping your device removes the eSIM number (which it should), can't you just re-enter the number again? These aren't tied to devices, you should be able to use them in as many devices as you want (not simultaneously, of course).
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What do you mean by that? Even if wiping your device removes the eSIM number (which it should), can't you just re-enter the number again? These aren't tied to devices, you should be able to use them in as many devices as you want (not simultaneously, of course).
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Pretty sure that it's one time code; Once you download it, it's gone. That's what I know.
Another issue is that I can't physically use my sim because it doesn't work anymore, so my option is to go with an esim or a physical card. And I already have physical card in place...
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Pretty sure that it's one time code; Once you download it, it's gone. That's what I know.
Another issue is that I can't physically use my sim because it doesn't work anymore, so my option is to go with an esim or a physical card. And I already have physical card in place...
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Yup, you seem to be right. Not sure where I got this information from that an eSIM code can be used as many times as you want.
If you know you'll be tinkering with your device a fair bit, I'd recommend you try to use a physical SIM card. Even if there is a way to carry your once registered eSIM through ROMs, should you brick your device at some point or apply an upgrade that wipes your eSIM, you'll be SOL.
That being said, I've not carried an eSIM registration through multiple ROMs, so I'm none the wiser.
Thank you for correcting me on the reusability of eSIM codes though!
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Yup, you seem to be right. Not sure where I got this information from that an eSIM code can be used as many times as you want.
If you know you'll be tinkering with your device a fair bit, I'd recommend you try to use a physical SIM card. Even if there is a way to carry your once registered eSIM through ROMs, should you brick your device at some point or apply an upgrade that wipes your eSIM, you'll be SOL.
That being said, I've not carried an eSIM registration through multiple ROMs, so I'm none the wiser.
Thank you for correcting me on the reusability of eSIM codes though!
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No problem. That being said, I can order a physical card so I can also manually enable 5G capabilities (because in order to get the 5G patch in place, I have to use a spare 5G certified device by my provider to be able to access 5G speeds, I happen to have spare phones).
And in the future, I'll be switching to eSIM because yeah; idk if it will even stay on the phone after completely wiping it. Initially I thought it's saved in some chip but whoever knows please let me know.