What do I need to do to my SM-P905 to use it as a phone? - Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just pulled the trigger on a refurbished SM-P905 (Verizon) tablet. I would like to have the option of sticking my phone's SIM card in it and use the tablet as my phone (with an ear piece, of course).
What would I need to do to the tablet in order to make that work? Root? Install additional apps? Would CM12 work?
Assume that I have a Verizon cell phone that I would pull the SIM from and put into the tablet when I needed to use it as such.
Thanks!

I have the international version of the note pro SM-P905
from my previous knowledge,
any android tablet can be used as a phone except that phone calls will be heard through the speaker unless you use an ear piece.
I already have a phone sim installed on my note pro and it is working fine out of the box
I use it the sim for data and I made a few phone calls without any problems
no need for root or anything else
I don't know about Verizon note pro model but it is suppose to be the same

Thanks! I was concerned that the tablet wouldn't have the necessary phone apps and background software that it would need right out of the box.

I have the P905V as well.
I haven't tried a phone sim on I cant say for sure on the phone calls themselves.
however I am using a T-mobile tablet sim with text messaging and the text messaging does not seem to work on this tablet.
Verizon and sprint use CDMA for voice, SMS and 3G data
When they moved to LTE (Which is a GSM technology) they basically just added a sim card slot for data on top of the existing CDMA hardware.
Some Verizon phones also have the Sim slot enabled for GSM calling for people that travel internationally.
unfortunately most tablets (and even a lot of phones) dont have that feature and only use it for LTE
I suspect that this is the case here.
there is chance it might make calls if activated under Verizon though you would need a dialer installed. (Perhaps someone with one activated with Verizon could chime in if they have tried it)
The best option I've found on an alternate carrier is to use your google voice number in the hangouts app to make VOIP calls.
it works great for that and you basically have calling coverage anywhere you have data.
Groove IP also works pretty good and doesnt use much data.
unfortunately VOIP is the only option I know of.
On a side note, as stated above the international version has the full phone features in GSM format, this is often the case with international versions of tablets.
Sadly the US only versions often have things stripped out by the carrier, sometimes out of necessity and sometimes to push people to use their service etc.

Thanks for the info! That's exactly what I was afraid of, that the Verizon version of the OS on this tablet wouldn't include the phone/texting software. So I'm wondering if the CM12 rom does..?

Unfortunately while the Verizon version is rootable on android 4.4 there are no custom roms for it currently.
Also note that they released the 5.1 update for the Verizon model but its not yet rootable.
I've kept mine on 4.4 for this reason but a lot of people have opted to give up root for the newer software.
I know this all sounds like bad news but this is really an amazing tablet, I actually use it exclusively and no longer use windows at home.
I also often use it for calls over VOIP.
but unfortunately if custom roms and voice calls are what you are looking for in a tablet the international version would have likely been the better choice.
The Verizon Version does have a few perks due to the snapdragon 800 processor, charging faster being the biggest.

Thanks! I just purchased mine and its supposed to get here tomorrow. I'm probably going to send it back. I don't want to be stuck on 4.4 just so I can have root, and I don't want to deal with not even having root on 5.1. Then add-on that you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon version, and it's a no-go.

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Jus' checkin' - None of the Samsung tablets have phone capability...

As I understand it, no Samsung tablet has an actual phone; you would need to use a VOIP app like Skype to make calls, correct? I was kinda hopin' to ditch my smartphone and go tab only...
G.B. Says
And remember, talking dogs are liars.
I am using Tab 7 plus for my phone replacement. However, you have to make sure you buy the right model. It is because Samsung also sell the wifi only for those models, so if you got the wifi only model, you won't be able to make phone call.
I don't know where you from, and which model of tabs Samsung selling in your country. GT-P6200(7+) / GT-P6800(7.7) can be used to make phone calls like the normal phones.
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If you have WIFI only model, you could port your number to google voice and use grooveip. Of course you'd always need to be within range of wifi, but it works
Hi there,
I have a Galaxy Tab 7+ (GT-P6200), and I can use it perfectly as a phone: I can make calls and send texts (SMS). It has full phone functionality. Check for a SIM card slot if you're not sure about WIFI or 3G models. If you can insert a SIM card then surely you can use it to make cell calls.
I currently have a WiFi only 7+ tablet. Just to clarify, T-Mobile was offering the 7+ for $99.00 USD with a two year agreement. (ending 05-08-2012) Their version is 4G with a sim slot. All well and good, except they are only offering data plans with it - no voice.
I net chatted with a T-Mobile rep as well as called one up to double confirm, that the 7+ they are offering does not have phone capabilities. This leads me to believe this is a U.S. only issue as I have seen reviews on YouTube demonstrating the phone feature by tabbers outside the U.S.
As for VOIP, I'm currently using Skype, though I plan to check out Grove IP and Google voice. I was really close to going for this deal. The price was excellent, but without a dedicated phone capability, I couldn't justify it.
G.B. Says
And remember, talking dogs are liars.
With the T-Mobile version you will use the T-mobile sim card to connect to the internet only , and then use skype , GV , or any other VOIP app to use the tablet as a phone. Unfortunately to this T-MO tab you cannot flash a ROM that has built in phone capabilities ( like you can do to the old ATT or T-MO Galaxy Tab ) because the T-MO radio is different from the P6200 model.
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t-mobile wifi calling

Just curious if there is a way to get the t-mobile feature of wifi calling on phones which are not running the stock t-mobile rom? I have a phone in canada that uses a US sim for when we send drivers to the states for deliveries (transportation company) but the phone is from canada.
Can this be achieved? Is there maybe a successful app that can do this?
Bloodyskullz said:
Just curious if there is a way to get the t-mobile feature of wifi calling on phones which are not running the stock t-mobile rom? I have a phone in canada that uses a US sim for when we send drivers to the states for deliveries (transportation company) but the phone is from canada.
Can this be achieved? Is there maybe a successful app that can do this?
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Nope. Many have tried, all have failed. It was possible until T-mobile changed the APK when ICS was released.
How did the APK affect everything? Did they add some special code that makes it not function properly?
So would changing the rom from lets AT&T to T-mobile or from Rogers to T-mobile, would the feature be successfully unlocked?
Bloodyskullz said:
How did the APK affect everything? Did they add some special code that makes it not function properly?
So would changing the rom from lets AT&T to T-mobile or from Rogers to T-mobile, would the feature be successfully unlocked?
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I don't know the specifics, but it is built into the framework of the ROM. Yes, changing the ROM on another network's device to a T-mobile ROM will allow you to use the Wi-Fi calling feature.
Figured as much.
Thanks for the responses.
The first requisite is that you're using a T-Mobile SIM, because the SIM has an internal authentication method that interfaces with the internal Wifi Calling app. You can't use any other carrier's ROM/Wifi Calling (e.g. Rogers' Wifi Calling) with a T-Mobile SIM, even if both carriers use Wifi Calling.
The second requisite is that the carrier actually supports Wifi Calling. It requires specific Kineto servers on their end.
Thirdly, you can flash a T-Mobile ROM on, say an AT&T phone (I've done this with an AT&T S4) if the phone can handle it, and that will "enable" (because it'll technically become a T-Mobile phone) Wifi Calling.
Fourthly, Wifi Calling is more than just an APK. Previously, it used UMA; that meant that the phone sent normal GSM signal over Wifi instead of through it's cellular radio. Now it uses a proprietary SIP (completely internet-based) protocol that nobody has been able to port to other ROMs. It's extremely embedded into the software framework of the phone.
So pretty much if you want to be able to use T-Mobile Wifi Calling, you need a T-Mobile phone or a T-Mobile ROM. The good news is that T-Mobile phones are fully compatible with all carriers in the US & Canada. They have all the required frequencies for every carrier. I have family up in Canada, so I'm familiar with all the Canadian carriers and what bands they operate on. Or like I said, you can flash your phones (depending on the phone, if T-Mobile also has it) with a T-Mobile ROM.
By the way, calling to Canada would still cost you with a normal T-Mobile plan. It's considered long-distance from a US perspective. There are apps you can use to make phone calls to land lines over Wifi, like Skype (if you pay). You could also use free apps that allow you to make calls to other people using the app (like Viber, which also does free messaging similar to Whatsapp and has a desktop app).
You would also need the right SIM card. Not all T-Mobile SIM cards support Wi-Fi calling.
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gc84245 said:
No, it's not just the ROM it's also the SIM card. I had a T-Mobile phone with Canadian SIM card and it definitely does not work.
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Considering he said his sim was from the US, I think it is safe to assume that it is not a Canadian sim, and most likely T-mobile.
Uggg, this XDA app is terrible, I can't even edit posts. Anyways, how do I know what SIM card this person has? They didn't say, but even if we assume it's T-Mobile that's no guarantee it will work.
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Glad to know that there are a few people here that know about the canadian phones. I just found the t-mobile rom so I am going to try and flash it via odin on my canadian phone.
And for the record so it doesn't confuse other XDA members, its a T-mobile sim and one of their more recent micro sims.
Don't ODIN another model's ROM. Stock ROM files include a modem. If you flash another model's modem, you will lose your IMEI. You need to root the phone and install a custom recovery so you can flash the ROM without the modem.
Pretty much all of their SIMs from the last two years will work. So that's not an issue. Like I said though, Wifi Calling simulates being you in the US. For example, I visit my grandparents in Ottawa. I use their Wifi to make Wifi Calls on my Galaxy Note 3. The calls are made as if I'm in the US. Meaning if I used Wifi Calling to call one of my friends who lives in the US, it counts as a domestic call. But if I call my grandparents' house phone, it'll be long distance, the same as if I were in the US making the call to Canada.
If you're trying to save money on calls, this won't work since you'll still be calling Canada long distance.
Product F(RED) said:
Don't ODIN another model's ROM. Stock ROM files include a modem. If you flash another model's modem, you will lose your IMEI. You need to root the phone and install a custom recovery so you can flash the ROM without the modem.
Pretty much all of their SIMs from the last two years will work. So that's not an issue. Like I said though, Wifi Calling simulates being you in the US. For example, I visit my grandparents in Ottawa. I use their Wifi to make Wifi Calls on my Galaxy Note 3. The calls are made as if I'm in the US. Meaning if I used Wifi Calling to call one of my friends who lives in the US, it counts as a domestic call. But if I call my grandparents' house phone, it'll be long distance, the same as if I were in the US making the call to Canada.
If you're trying to save money on calls, this won't work since you'll still be calling Canada long distance.
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Glad I caught this. I didn't think this would actually have such a possible outcome.
Where can I get the t-mobile rom only then? sammobile doesn't seem to bring up the rom when i type in the model number of the phone.
Bloodyskullz said:
Glad I caught this. I didn't think this would actually have such a possible outcome.
Where can I get the t-mobile rom only then? sammobile doesn't seem to bring up the rom when i type in the model number of the phone.
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Which phone is it?
It's probably easier to go with a custom T-Mobile ROM from here on XDA since you won't be taking official updates anyway.
N900w8 - telus carrier.
EDIT: judging by the second statement, the custom roms aren't exactly AOSP based if one would still want to acquire such a feature.
Bloodyskullz said:
N900w8 - telus carrier.
EDIT: judging by the second statement, the custom roms aren't exactly AOSP based if one would still want to acquire such a feature.
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The Canadian Note 3 is actually equivalent to the T-Mobile Note 3 (same frequencies). You can flash a T-Mobile Note 3 custom ROM from here (just don't flash any modems). Get one that is Touchwiz based. NB4-based ROMs (Android 4.4.2) are the latest. Vision NX3 is one that I use and is a minimally-tweaked stock based ROM (it includes some T-Mobile bloat, but that can be removed with root apps like Titanium Backup).
Would it be possible to flash a stock T-Mobile rom to at&t lg g4 I can skip the modem flash, I know that's a bad idea.

What does your Note 5 do without a SIM card?

I'm performing research into an odd issue that may affect custom ROMs across multiple devices, and I'm hoping a few people can help me.
If you're here, you probably know that Sprint is a CDMA carrier. The SIM card is for LTE only, and so removing it should not affect ability to make calls, and the phone should still get 3G data just fine.
On my stock Lollipop Note 3, it works as expected; a notification bugging me to insert a SIM, but otherwise works fine with 3G.
I had a Samsung rep take the SIM out of his Sprint Marshmallow S6, expecting it would work the same... but instead it completely killed the cell radio. No connection at all, no phone calls, no Mobile Networks option in Settings.
On ports of Note 5 firmware, the phone will connect to the network for phone calls, but absolutely not allow mobile data to turn on. However, this seems to be because the source ROM is GSM only - the Sprint kernel and modem allow it to use CDMA, but the UI still can not fathom having mobile data without a SIM and simply disables the option. The same happens with an S7 ROM port (also from GSM-only source). With a lot of command line %&$#ery, I managed to make it use 3G, but only for about 10 minutes before it catches on and the phone has to reboot.
Now the question I seek to answer is whether the ROM port issue occurs because the source ROM was GSM, or because Samsung just removed the capacity for CDMA-only data from more modern phones. Once I know that, I can work toward fixing it. As such, I humbly request that a few people boot their Sprint Note 5's on stock(-ish) firmware without a SIM card, and let me know if they can use 3G like that.
Cheers! :fingers-crossed:
Newer phones have different hardware. The S6 and Note 5 need the SIM card to authenticate with LTE and with CDMA/EVDO. A rom change will never fix this. This is the next way phone manufacturers and Sprint want new phones to be built. The CDMA and LTE are one authentication.
Your Note 3 had the old way of authentication, where the CDMA portion was separate from LTE. Hence, when the SIM card was removed, 3G worked because the CDMA authentication was embedded into the device.
New phones will not allow this, and honestly, the only reason you were able to use Sprint CDMA without the SIM card is because Sprint has your device ID and let it authenticate for a bit, but then the network itself rejected you because there was no authentication mechanism.
That's... all really a wonderful theory, but the whole point is that current research is indicating it doesn't work the way anyone thinks it does. Even the Samsung rep was shocked that his phone behaved the way it did.
As of right now, I have located one Marshmallow ROM that will allow 3G to work perfectly without a SIM, but have not heard back from the dev on how; it's based off CM, which in my experience will not. The ROMs that don't, don't stop because of authentication issues, they stop purely because of a UI trigger. Otherwise just rebooting wouldn't allow it to be fine for another 10 minutes.
Hence, research. I know all about what it ought to do. And why, and how. I could write a paper on it. I want to know what it does. For that, I ask only for some kind soul to boot their phone without a SIM for two minutes.
That's because its not a theory. It's reality.
In a cdmaOne/CDMA2000 ("CDMA") network, the UICC contains a CSIM application, in addition to 3GPP USIM and SIM applications. A card with all 3 features is called a removable user identity card, or R-UIM. Thus, the R-UIM card can be inserted into CDMA, GSM, or UMTS handsets, and will work in all three cases.
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Source
I fried my SIM card when I first got the phone by using QPST to try to flash a custom PRL. Not only did the phone power cycle every 5 minutes, but it lost its entire connection to the network. No 3G, no LTE, no 1x. When i went to replace the SIM card, the rep went through about 5 cards until he found one that was actually a UICC card, as the others were ordinary SIM cards just for LTE.
Also, please don't tout research on XDA. Your research is at best an observation with one ROM, and my guess it was a fluke where Sprint didn't reject your connection. Research requires actual proof and peer review. One ROM working one time doesn't warrant research. This isn't an issue with a "UI Trigger" as you put it, but its just the new way phones are authenticated.
Try removing a UICC card from a recent Nexus device (6,5X,6P), it will lose all connection as well. Why? Not because of a UI Trigger, but because new phones need the UICC to authenticate both CDMA and LTE.
Finally, unless that Samsung rep was a Samsung engineer, he is just a salesman with little tech knowledge past what is needed to sell the device.
Similar issue Sprint Note 3
DejitaruJin said:
I'm performing research into an odd issue that may affect custom ROMs across multiple devices, and I'm hoping a few people can help me.
If you're here, you probably know that Sprint is a CDMA carrier. The SIM card is for LTE only, and so removing it should not affect ability to make calls, and the phone should still get 3G data just fine.
On my stock Lollipop Note 3, it works as expected; a notification bugging me to insert a SIM, but otherwise works fine with 3G.
I had a Samsung rep take the SIM out of his Sprint Marshmallow S6, expecting it would work the same... but instead it completely killed the cell radio. No connection at all, no phone calls, no Mobile Networks option in Settings.
On ports of Note 5 firmware, the phone will connect to the network for phone calls, but absolutely not allow mobile data to turn on. However, this seems to be because the source ROM is GSM only - the Sprint kernel and modem allow it to use CDMA, but the UI still can not fathom having mobile data without a SIM and simply disables the option. The same happens with an S7 ROM port (also from GSM-only source). With a lot of command line %&$#ery, I managed to make it use 3G, but only for about 10 minutes before it catches on and the phone has to reboot.
Now the question I seek to answer is whether the ROM port issue occurs because the source ROM was GSM, or because Samsung just removed the capacity for CDMA-only data from more modern phones. Once I know that, I can work toward fixing it. As such, I humbly request that a few people boot their Sprint Note 5's on stock(-ish) firmware without a SIM card, and let me know if they can use 3G like that.
Cheers! :fingers-crossed:
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Similar issue with HLTESPR (Sprint Note3) moved to Lineage OS 5.8.2 can not make calls with SIM card inserted. Remove the card and the 4 works fine (no LTE). APN and Carrier show up in settings.
Replace the SIM card no APN's no carrier, no phone unless on WiFi.

TRACFONE sch-s968c, 4.1.2 BLoWz! need root then RoM

Hi folks I''ve read quite alot about the Straight Talk Variant of this phone.
Carrier is pageplus cellular. They were recently bought out by tracfone.
When booting, the phone displays the ugly Tracfone logo and came loaded with default tracfone apps and browzer bookmarks, though both phones were sold by pageplus.
EVERYTHING I know about any fone sold by tracfone (much less the OLD TFn) or its subsidiaries reflects they are really really hard to root or mod, but b/c it was a genuine S3 I took the chance, usually I get an old VZW unit off ebay.
What I have:
sch-s968c
Android Ver.
4.1.2
BaseBand
S968CUDUANH2
Kernel Ver.
3.0.30-1564380-user
[email protected] #1
Build No.
JZO54K.S6968CUDUANH2
Date
Aug 7, 2014
Mobile Network
EvDo-rev.A:8
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pageplus cellular was unable to get the mobile broadband working, I got that fixed chopping down an OLD (3 years at least) TFn SIM and poking it in the slot -- eazy peazy
However, Stock 4.1.2 utterly BLOWS CHUNKS. 2 bars at best in my rural area. I hear USC, SPR, and VZW (all cdma) users are getting 3-4 @ my place (my kids friends)
I know threads exist for the StraightTalk variant of the s968c, however I don't know which 'Destructions' to use. Some say a special version of the OctOS (?) TWRM recovery, but the link to it is broken. What about Heimdahl? Reason I ask is I don't use windows, ever since too many things no longer work on XP... Do I HAVE to use windows? Running win7 in a VM is an option but then there's the struggle to get the VM to correctly access USB...
Once I get root, I NEED a ROM, rooted with no google or chrome, I'm a security freak and won't run any app that needs that 'Safeguard' or whatever that is... Basicly I don't run google anything and don't use fB etc on the fone. In order to effectively firewall and adbock I need root ~~ Can't figure out which RELIABLE stripped down RoM to pick.
Then there is the notorious Camera issue. What do I need to back up, in order to reload the decent Proprietary Samsung Camera? (I truly do require good camera for my work) I don't mind to use Stock VZW etc firmware as long as I can root the thing and disable the bloat and calling home crap. I have seen some ROMs that are stock based, but I do not see any rooted ones.
Is the solution found in rooting after I load (which one?) ROM?
The poor signal strength ~~ is this a firmware issue or a hardware issue? I have heard that some S3's are just "wrong" (Verizon type -- might not be some) others have said its RIL or APN related... but since the APN comes from the SIM, I wonder if Id be better off experimenting with different SIM?
Thanks in advance ... Before I get Napalmed for starting a new thread, I looked everywhere and couldn't find much on a phone originally from Tracfone, much less on my rinky dink carrier
VW

Question SIM Card Manager

I have a Canadian model Galaxy S22 Ultra (Snapdragon) and have an issue with how Samsung handles dual SIM set-up.
Here's my screen under Settings - SIM Card Manager.
https://imgur.com/a/1TjegB4
I want the Bell SIM (physical SIM) to handle most data-intensive tasks, but the Shaw one (eSIM) to handle SMS/MMS/RCS Messaging. It seems that if I set Bell as my Primary SIM, then the Shaw one won't allow MMS or RCS Messaging. It tells me to switch my primary SIM to Shaw if I want to do that.
It's been a while since I had a dual SIM Android phone but I don't recall having similar issues in the past. I don't think it's an APN thing either as these features work if only one SIM is available.
Any ideas? Apparently non-North American units have a more typical SIM Card Manager settings app that lets you specify which SIM is for data and which is for calls.
Maybe a regional Settings difference......?
My Note20 ultra (snapdragon) has more options in this regard:
Any idea if it's possible to get the SIM Card Manager APK from your phone? I doubt it would work but it's worth a try.
Someone in the Reddit thread I made about this mentioned it was indeed a North American thing.
Try either of these - see if it works......
(couldn't find a "SIM card manager".apk file)
Darn. The SIM Toolkit app won't install as it says the Package is invalid,and the SIMMobilityKit one just wouldn't install.
If someone with an S22 Ultra Snapdragon unit outside of North America could try, maybe that'll work
You could try flashing a non-North American stock Snapdragon ROM (e.g. China/ Thailand/ Korea)?
Anyone with a non-North American Snapdragon Galaxy S22 able to extract the SIM Manager app? Don't feel comfortable flashing a foreign ROM in case I brick ny phone or trip Knox
Looks like this is a more complex issue than what I thought. It's not a specific APK that's accessed when accessing the SIM Card Manager. Pulling a logcat reveals a process called "NU.SimCardManagerUtils"
Why Samsung cripples North American phones by limiting functionality of Dual SIM mode is beyond me (well OK, it's likely the carriers, but still.....)
Devhux said:
Anyone with a non-North American Snapdragon Galaxy S22 able to extract the SIM Manager app? Don't feel comfortable flashing a foreign ROM in case I brick ny phone or trip Knox
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FWIW there's pretty much no chance of tripping knox by flashing a signed fw and not unlocking the bootloader (not like you can anyways)
I am also curious at this and probably won't get to try flashing until my 2nd S22U arrives
I believe for some carriers Talk/Text/Data have to be on the same SIM card to make RCS work.
peteve said:
I believe for some carriers Talk/Text/Data have to be on the same SIM card to make RCS work.
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I would happily disable RCS to get better control over SIM card usage, but I don't think that's the case. RCS is supposed to be network agnostic, well except maybe AT&T where they just flat out hijack RCS.
I really truly wonder why anyone would still use that ****ty carrier tbh.
Yeah,this goes beyond RCS. Even downloading MMS messages from the non-Primary SIM won't work,and I've had no issues on iPhones or other Android devices. Even someone in my original Reddit post commented they can do it with an International phone (admittedly a Note 20, but it appears Samsung has been crippling the North American phones ever since they finally gave us eSIM.
Sadly I'm not a developer, so even if I flashed my phone with a ROM from a different region and compared logcat output from opening the same screen, I likely wouldn't understand what the differences are or what it's actually asking.
The s22 is different to my prior s21 in this way too. Before you could independently choose which sim did voice, data and SMS. Now it's one sim or the other for all three.
Wait, really? Were both from the same region?
If so, sounds like we'll have to try pressuring Samsung to put it back (however feeble that might be).
Devhux said:
Wait, really? Were both from the same region?
If so, sounds like we'll have to try pressuring Samsung to put it back (however feeble that might be).
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I actually think it's simpler the new way. Otherwise I had to toggle three items every time I switched sim.
Devhux said:
Darn. The SIM Toolkit app won't install as it says the Package is invalid,and the SIMMobilityKit one just wouldn't install.
If someone with an S22 Ultra Snapdragon unit outside of North America could try, maybe that'll work
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Did you have any luck with solving this?
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Did you have any luck with solving this?
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Sadly no.
I am convinced Samsung is doing this in the Americas due to some backdoor deals with the carriers. The carriers do not want us to be able to use different sims for different things. They want you to have to purchase one expensive plan from them. This is the most compelling thing pushing me back towards the Pixel 6 Pro. Glad I still have it.
To overcome the MMS on the non-primary sim, I had to install a third-party messaging app. Pulsesms. I would rather use google messages.
For the phone calls, I just installed google dialer which lets you select the primary calling account (sim).
I have half a mind to file a complaint with my state's consumer protection board. It doesn't seem right that they can place these kinds of restrictions on US handsets, even if you buy it unlocked.
drfundy said:
I am convinced Samsung is doing this in the Americas due to some backdoor deals with the carriers. The carriers do not want us to be able to use different sims for different things. They want you to have to purchase one expensive plan from them. This is the most compelling thing pushing me back towards the Pixel 6 Pro. Glad I still have it.
To overcome the MMS on the non-primary sim, I had to install a third-party messaging app. Pulsesms. I would rather use google messages.
For the phone calls, I just installed google dialer which lets you select the primary calling account (sim).
I have half a mind to file a complaint with my state's consumer protection board. It doesn't seem right that they can place these kinds of restrictions on US handsets, even if you buy it unlocked.
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How do you mean "overcome mms in non primary via third party"? The problem is the non primary can't be used for data, and mms requires data.
The main problem here is use of data. Default sim for calling and texting can be set per contact thru the Samsung phone app. But data can't be switched to non primary. That's what there's no workaround for right now.
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How do you mean "overcome mms in non primary via third party"? The problem is the non primary can't be used for data, and mms requires data.
The main problem here is use of data. Default sim for calling and texting can be set per contact thru the Samsung phone app. But data can't be switched to non primary. That's what there's no workaround for right now.
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What I am saying is, that when I use pulsesms as my SMS app, it is able to send MMS using either number. I don't know how it does it, but it does.
With the google phone app, you can pick a sim card as the default for all contacts.

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