Question GW4 LTE: Standalone phone and wifi tether/hotspot possible? - Samsung Galaxy Watch 4

Hello everyone!
I've tried searching, and haven't found a definitive "March 2022" answer; please excuse me if this has been answered in the past.
Is it possible to operate the LTE version (with a nano SIM/normal phone plan) completely without a phone? Specifically, can it make/receive calls & SMS and, most importantly, act as a WiFi hotspot for other devices? I'm well aware battery life will be completely trash while operating as a hotspot and heat may become a problem with prolonged use. Is there a compatible Android app that can be sideloaded (maybe using one the the tools listed in this thread) to accomplish this?
This post says it's possible to run Google Voice. If native calls aren't possible, I'm guessing this could be an alternative...?
Thanks so much in advance for any/all help!

I have not had any luck. There is no option during setup. I have not found any way to do it on any wear os watch, not that it isn't possible.
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From Samsung site:
Set up smart watch without a phone​Note: The Galaxy Fit, Fit2, and Galaxy Watch4 series cannot be used without a phone.

Taser420 said:
Hello everyone!
I've tried searching, and haven't found a definitive "March 2022" answer; please excuse me if this has been answered in the past.
Is it possible to operate the LTE version (with a nano SIM/normal phone plan) completely without a phone? Specifically, can it make/receive calls & SMS and, most importantly, act as a WiFi hotspot for other devices? I'm well aware battery life will be completely trash while operating as a hotspot and heat may become a problem with prolonged use. Is there a compatible Android app that can be sideloaded (maybe using one the the tools listed in this thread) to accomplish this?
This post says it's possible to run Google Voice. If native calls aren't possible, I'm guessing this could be an alternative...?
Thanks so much in advance for any/all help!
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you want to run this toy as a hotspot ? It cant even maintain aod

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HD2 wi-fi Hack?

OK I've left Blackberry, to small of everything & I've found AndroidPolice besides that I just learned there's a hack to make the HD2 wi-fi come alive.
1) does this allow the HD2 to make phone calls on wi-fi?
2) if yes "where is it???"
It will be the Samsung S (no wi-fi calls) or a Nexus One (which makes wi-fi calls). Geez what a choice.
I'm asking with all respect, pls answer my questions, I don't want to leave Windows. Thanks.
(this name is a new name I've been here for years).
anonymous-x said:
OK I've left Blackberry, to small of everything & I've found AndroidPolice besides that I just learned there's a hack to make the HD2 wi-fi come alive.
1) does this allow the HD2 to make phone calls on wi-fi?
2) if yes "where is it???"
It will be the Samsung S (no wi-fi calls) or a Nexus One (which makes wi-fi calls). Geez what a choice.
I'm asking with all respect, pls answer my questions, I don't want to leave Windows. Thanks.
(this name is a new name I've been here for years).
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I don't know if this is what you're referring to, but there's a cab that will enable draft-N wifi on the HD2. You'll find it in a stickied thread in the T-mobile HD2 forums' general section. I have no idea what's currently possible with voip calls over wifi with the HD2, but if it IS possible, then that's also the best place to look to find out.
Thanks. I think what your suggesting is #39. If as it says enables n I sure hope this does allow wi-fi calls. Again Thanks.
anonymous-x said:
Thanks. I think what your suggesting is #39. If as it says enables n I sure hope this does allow wi-fi calls. Again Thanks.
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Are you asking about Skype? Because enabling Wireless Draft N support does not really mean that you'll be able to make wi-fi calls.
My ATT DSL has wireless & my location provides a necessity for wi-fi calls inside my home. WI-FI is the #1 item I need to purchace another phone.
This is my main search, so any ideas for a decent phone with this concern is greatly appreciated. Thx.
All these fancy phones & yet so hard to solve this problem, (no to att, red or sprnt phones). What a situation
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http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and...Answer-to-Apple-iPhone-Debuts-in-Asia-532669/
Well according to this the Galaxy S is wi-fi n
I'm wondering what this phone will be like with a clear screen & the ability to wi-fi n on Android?
It seems that it's time for me to check out something new & I hope XDA understands & accepts this phone. XDA is my teacher & I'm hoping XDA will teach me with this phone as well.
Wish me luck that this phone arrives @ TMO.
HD2 and Wi-Fi a
Any chance the HD2 supports Wi-Fi "a"?

[MOD] Enable "Phone" Features on T-Mobile T869

To give you a little context, I came over to the T869 from the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, which is basically the WiFi-only sibling of the "Plus" T869 that T-Mobile now sells. Being a WiFi only device, it had the "phone" parts of the GUI disabled, like the Phone and Messaging apps won't show up or run and you can't sync BlueTooth headsets. The T869 has the MMS app enabled, but no phone, so the same mod I did on the P3113 is useful on this one.
Thankfully, even though it seems fairly arcane, Wes Foster made a nice utility to make this much easier (and more n00b friendly) to do.
To do this (and other framework mods), first you should pull the framework-res.apk file out of the ROM.zip file you're using. Open the zip and go into /system/framework. In there you'll find framework-res.apk, which you should extract.
Drop that file into the "place-framework-res-here" folder within the Mod tool, then run the tool and enter option 1.
This will unpack the files to the "files-to-edit" folder.
Inside there you'll need to go to \framework-res.apk\res\values\
You'll need to modify the file bools.xml. Find this line and change "false" to "true":
Code:
[B]<bool name="config_voice_capable">false</bool>[/B]
Once you make that change, you're all set to "enable" phone features. You can also make other changes as desired.
Here's a partial guide: http://www.igottadroid.com/ModMarket/Listings/Darkside Agent1621289.html
Once you're done modifying the file, save it, and then run through options 2, 3, and 4 on the mod tool.
Once its done, you'll have a flashable ZIP file named "update.zip" inside the final-zip-file folder.
For extra safety, I reccomend making a copy of the update.zip called revert_framework.zip.
Open this copy in 7-Zip, go into the /system/framework folder, and delete the framework-res.apk file there. Replace it with the unmodified one from your ROM, then close 7-Zip. Now you have a second "flashable" ZIP that will put the untouched framework back onto your tablet, which comes in handy if you managed to break something and cannot boot
I did not make the tool, and found it in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823701
I am simply reposting it over here since I found it very helpful
I stumbled across this thread when I was about to ask about the international version...is there any chance you could post a video of this in action? Not that I don't believe this works, but I remember following a thread for the T-Mobile Springboard where a few people said a certain update would allow for phone/SMS, but then others who actively tried were unable to do so because of how T-Mobile picks up the IMEI (and doesn't let you use a phone SIM with a tablet).
If this works (and if it also keeps T-Mobile 4G), then this would be a MUCH better solution than buying an international 7.0 Plus (which is not only ~$200 more expensive on average but would only work on 2G on T-Mobile US).
Well, the T869 has SMS enabled natively. I got a "data only" pay-as-you-go plan for a 4G / WiFi hotspot earlier this year, and recently got the T869 with a contact. Both of these came with a 10 digit phone number for administrative purposes, and even the hotspot had the ability to receive SMS.
This particular trick doesn't do anything to the back end services themselves, so its not like you magically get phone service just by doing this.
I use a combination of SIP and Google Voice to do phone-type stuff without a phone.
I prefer this hack because it enables the native dialer, and pretty much all the good softphone solutions allow you to "integrate" with the native call log & dialer setup, so you just go to the normal "People" app and click someone's phone # and are then given an option to call them.
Without this hack, you must go into whatever 3rd party app you're using and initiate phone calls from there.
Remember, I initially started doing this on my WiFi Only GT-P3113 (which is basically a T869 without 4G or vibration).
I was never able to get the "Native" messaging app to behave quite right. There's a Google Voice SMS Integration app, and it can sync your GV texting into the native SMS app's text history, but it can't (or couldn't) trigger native SMS notifications correctly.
I am kinda over texting in general, as I have it piped through GoogleTalk. I receive SMS at my GoogleVoice phone #, and they are automatically forwarded to GoogleTalk via a third party web service called GVMax, which is free. GV Max is basically a GoogleVoice to XMPP bridge. After federating in my other IM accounts, GoogleTalk is now my one-stop-shop for textual communications.
Just my $0.02.
Isn't the "International" version so-called because its got a quad band radio that works on like any carrier?
Also, I have heard (though this is not confirmed) that the "International" edition doesn't come with an IR blaster, whereas the T869 does. I dunno if that's true or something you'd care about, but food for thought
magus57 said:
I stumbled across this thread when I was about to ask about the international version...is there any chance you could post a video of this in action? Not that I don't believe this works, but I remember following a thread for the T-Mobile Springboard where a few people said a certain update would allow for phone/SMS, but then others who actively tried were unable to do so because of how T-Mobile picks up the IMEI (and doesn't let you use a phone SIM with a tablet).
If this works (and if it also keeps T-Mobile 4G), then this would be a MUCH better solution than buying an international 7.0 Plus (which is not only ~$200 more expensive on average but would only work on 2G on T-Mobile US).
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Well from what I remember, the reviews I read about the 7.0 Plus were regarding the international version and all of them mentioned an IR blaster - but regardless, that'd be one of my least-used features of the tablet. Kinda disappointed that it'd still only be calls over data - I think I'd pay the extra $200 and suffer 2G speeds (at least until T-Mobile 1900Mhz roll-out comes to Chicago) for GSM calls alone, as I'd rather not deal with a separate data plan or tethering data off my phone to get calls.
magus57 said:
Well from what I remember, the reviews I read about the 7.0 Plus were regarding the international version and all of them mentioned an IR blaster - but regardless, that'd be one of my least-used features of the tablet. Kinda disappointed that it'd still only be calls over data - I think I'd pay the extra $200 and suffer 2G speeds (at least until T-Mobile 1900Mhz roll-out comes to Chicago) for GSM calls alone, as I'd rather not deal with a separate data plan or tethering data off my phone to get calls.
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Yeah that's kindof a deal breaker. Out here in Portland OR we have 4G in most places, and I'm either at work (in an office) or at home 90% of the time, where I have a high speed WiFi hookup, AND I almost never talk on the phone, so the data-only setup is perfect for guys like me.
GSM only would pretty much make that a dealbreaker, since I suspect the audio quality would be pretty terrible.
DivinityCycle said:
Yeah that's kindof a deal breaker. Out here in Portland OR we have 4G in most places, and I'm either at work (in an office) or at home 90% of the time, where I have a high speed WiFi hookup, AND I almost never talk on the phone, so the data-only setup is perfect for guys like me.
GSM only would pretty much make that a dealbreaker, since I suspect the audio quality would be pretty terrible.
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While I do have a pretty stable 4G connection wherever I go (except for my brother's apartment, where ALL reception is horrible) or have access to my home's faster Wifi connection, and I don't talk much, I still get much better GSM service everywhere and can still get calls when I have to turn off data to save battery (since I use the data connection quite a bit when I'm away from a charger). And I haven't really had complaints with GSM audio or found voice over 4G/Wifi to be much clearer especially when the person on the other end is usually using GSM too..
I mean if you were doing some sorta data-only internet phone setup like SIP or GrooveIP or something. That's what I am using, and for it to sound alright you need decent bandwidth. Actually I ought to test out my stuff on a 2G connection and see how bad it is Should be interesting!
will this trick work on stock ICS build?
Galaxy t869
Does anyone know if this will allow making "regular" calls using my "regular" SIM CARD?
Thanks,
Jonathan
jon5407 said:
Does anyone know if this will allow making "regular" calls using my "regular" SIM CARD?
Thanks,
Jonathan
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I seriously doubt it, no way to be truly sure without trying it though.
T869UVLG7 ICS phone call hack
Hey I'm one the noobs mentioned in your post. I'm living in the Bahamas and a proud owner of the T869.First I have no idea what the ROM.zip is and whether this is supposed to be done on a desktop or the tab itself.I am rooted but running UVLG7 ICS UPDATE.It'd be awesome if I could get this working .My sim card is data and 3g/4g ready.Could you please /anyone inform. Thanks to u guys with your mod skills they're mad skills.Thanks man
Thanks mate~~
I did this on the T869 originally locked to T-Mobile, and it worked without a problem~!!!!
PS: >>> Be sure to first wipe cache. I skipped that the first time and i almost created an atomic bomb
PPS: >>> Also, the backup revert.zip is a brilliant idea, it's what i used when i messed up the first time!
Hey mate!
thanks again for the tutorial!
I have followed it to completion.
I however, can only do simple things like loading airtime [our networks are prepaid] and check balance,
but I can't seem to be able to make calls
I have an unlocked T869
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dubblecup said:
Hey I'm one the noobs mentioned in your post. I'm living in the Bahamas and a proud owner of the T869.First I have no idea what the ROM.zip is and whether this is supposed to be done on a desktop or the tab itself.I am rooted but running UVLG7 ICS UPDATE.It'd be awesome if I could get this working .My sim card is data and 3g/4g ready.Could you please /anyone inform. Thanks to u guys with your mod skills they're mad skills.Thanks man
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Hey,
are you trying to follow the tutorial and are having problems???
Please be a little more clear where you're stuck so we can help
-accidental double post-
Read the thread.
To quote myself: "This particular trick doesn't do anything to the back end services themselves, so its not like you magically get phone service just by doing this."
Also I have upgraded a couple of times since I posted about this crap and no longer use my Samsung (now using a Nexus 7 2013 which is way better)

Call App ?

Hi,
I am using the non-LTE version Frontier.
On Samsung site it says:
"*Bluetooth model requires Wi-Fi connection and a voice call app for phone-free calls."
When BT is connected , call works through the phone.
But when I disconnect BT and connect to the phone through wireless network, call is not allowed.
What may be the "voice call app" stated above? Where can we find it ?
Thx.
no ideas anyone ?
i am also looking for it (spotify also )
I'm also curious about this. Everyone who I have asked has no clue what this app is
arf8 said:
I'm also curious about this. Everyone who I have asked has no clue what this app is
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On my phone, I use a call app called CSipSimple. You can get it on the Play Store. It is open source (code available for download) so maybe someone who knows how to program for Tizen could rewrite it for our watches. Hopefully someone has already started something like this.
I'm going to assume they will eventually release something official. By the time a developer gets around to developing something with all the bugs worked out it may be useless.
will they release something ?
are we assuming ? because what's written on the product page is not really explaining...
agree, they have really dropped the ball in the handling of this watch from logistics to support
any update on this? I tried to make call over wifi with my non lte s3 but this doesnt work. Any voice call app available? Im hoping that whatsapp or viber will come out with their own tizen app for s3.
nothing yet
They want to push the LTE version I'm assuming. Look for them to drag their feet when it comes to getting such an app out there.
has anyone reached out to samsung to find out if and when they will ever release this?
A quarter later and still no release info. No surprise Samsung drops the ball again
any news on that topic, I was chasing to get an information about this feature but the internet stays quiet about it...
is it someone caring about that feature, cause I am? Coming from the Gear S with sim capabilities I feel like a leftover (not possible to get the esim version in my country)
pitty
arf8 said:
A quarter later and still no release info. No surprise Samsung drops the ball again
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Yeah, samsung drop the ball again. Their latest update saying there is going to support samsung internet for gear. Up until now, nothing.
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Any updates on this? Has an app like WhatsApp, Line, Viper, Skype or similar been released to use as standalone from the phone? I.e. it would be great to make calls while in the gym and being only connected to the gym wifi and my headset Bluetooth.

LG Urbane 2nd running full android 5.1, possible?

I own an Urbane 2nd LTE, and really like the build quality, look, and the promise of having a real "watch phone" However, I am quite disappointed with the need to tether to another phone. I desire a truly, tether free, stand alone, Adroid watch Phone, not android wear 2.0, which accepts nano sim cards. As I am aware of a number of Chinese watch phones, with similar specs, running full android 5.1 ( but I am assuming the build quality is limited with these watched), I am wondering if anyone has considered, attempted, or have been successful in loading full android on the Urbane 2nd? I scoured the threads as best I could, but did not find anything related to this.
My use case, I have a business phone and a personal phone. For evenings, weekends, and vacations, I would like to mostly disconnect, not carry a phone in my pocket, but still have the ability to take personal calls and access the internet in a pinch.
The cpu's plenty capable but isn't the screen size a problem? An older version, cupcake or donut or eclair, one that supports smaller screen resolution maybe
I've tried to install multiple phone apps (not their wear versions) on AW2.0 and even though some of them worked, their UI is not prepared for such a small screen. So even if you manage to run regular Android on the watch, many (most?) apps will be unusable due to the inability to correctly show their UI. I'm an Android developer and I don't test my apps on such small screens and I doubt any of them would work - buttons placed out of screen etc.
Kopec69 said:
I own an Urbane 2nd LTE, and really like the build quality, look, and the promise of having a real "watch phone" However, I am quite disappointed with the need to tether to another phone. I desire a truly, tether free, stand alone, Adroid watch Phone, not android wear 2.0, which accepts nano sim cards. As I am aware of a number of Chinese watch phones, with similar specs, running full android 5.1 ( but I am assuming the build quality is limited with these watched), I am wondering if anyone has considered, attempted, or have been successful in loading full android on the Urbane 2nd? I scoured the threads as best I could, but did not find anything related to this.
My use case, I have a business phone and a personal phone. For evenings, weekends, and vacations, I would like to mostly disconnect, not carry a phone in my pocket, but still have the ability to take personal calls and access the internet in a pinch.
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Isn't the purpose of the lg urbane 2nd edition LTE that it doesn't have to be tethered to your phone and that you can take it with you without your smartphone? I'm looking into buying this smartwatch but i don't know if i should wait a few more weeks/months when android wear 2.0 smartwatches come out.
froggerman said:
Isn't the purpose of the lg urbane 2nd edition LTE that it doesn't have to be tethered to your phone and that you can take it with you without your smartphone? I'm looking into buying this smartwatch but i don't know if i should wait a few more weeks/months when android wear 2.0 smartwatches come out.
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With AW 1.5 it was never meant to be completely standalone with all services functioning. With a SIM in the watch you can make calls/texts from the watch without any connection to the phone but in order to receive all notifications and use all services you need to be paired, but you can pair through cell data and still leave the phone at home. I leave my phone behind a few times a week and forward my calls to the watch. With 2.0 I'm sure it will be even more standalone but I haven't tested the DP yet.
mward1995 said:
With AW 1.5 it was never meant to be completely standalone with all services functioning. With a SIM in the watch you can make calls/texts from the watch without any connection to the phone but in order to receive all notifications and use all services you need to be paired, but you can pair through cell data and still leave the phone at home. I leave my phone behind a few times a week and forward my calls to the watch. With 2.0 I'm sure it will be even more standalone but I haven't tested the DP yet.
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With AW2.0 it can be really a separate device, but most of the apps don't support that and won't work without a phone. It will definitely get better with the final release and soon after.
rastik said:
With AW2.0 it can be really a separate device, but most of the apps don't support that and won't work without a phone. It will definitely get better with the final release and soon after.
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If DP5 does come with Android Pay, I may give it a try. I like the direction it's heading, but worry about the data increase. I'm using a pay as you go SIM in the watch and use very little data with 1.5. Of course I currently only activate the SIM when running. Curious to see if my usage/habits change much with the new standalone features.
Yes it is possible .
What is possible?
Running Android 5.1?
How?
Just curious - is there a list of compatible / working apps that can be side loaded onto the Urbane 2nd edition? Thanks
bchliu said:
Just curious - is there a list of compatible / working apps that can be side loaded onto the Urbane 2nd edition? Thanks
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A list of working sideloaded apps but mainly for wear 1.5 and not maintained anymore..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-wear/general/list-sideloaded-android-wear-apps-t2908106
and from another thread on XDA my personal quest to find a working satnav app to sideload (as Google Maps is not in any way standalone...)
"...sideloaded Navigon 4.6.2 and its works and is useable standaone on my watch (a LG Watch Urbane 2nd Edition).
No back button means I need to use Wear 2.0s force close an app ability each time I change a setting in the program but once its set up it works. Maps all downloaded to the watch via wifi.
Screen is a little cluttered but useable, and it does take up a big chunk of memory on the watch, but for driving it works pretty well. (walking navigation screen is, sadly, unuseable). For the record it seems to use 1% of battery power every 2 minutes...meaning it could potentially last 3 hours!!"
I also run (sideloaded full android versions) es file explorer, bs player and imediashare (to dlna videos on the watch to a tv via wifi). They are all older versions but are all still usable on Wear 2.0.
ruggs1234 said:
A list of working sideloaded apps but mainly for wear 1.5 and not maintained anymore..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-wear/general/list-sideloaded-android-wear-apps-t2908106
I also run (sideloaded full android versions) es file explorer, bs player and imediashare (to dlna videos on the watch to a tv via wifi). They are all older versions but are all still usable on Wear 2.0.
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Hi.. Just wondering where did you get the USB driver for the Urbane 2 from? I've looked everywhere and cannot find it specifically. Doesnt appear on my device manager properly..
bchliu said:
Hi.. Just wondering where did you get the USB driver for the Urbane 2 from? I've looked everywhere and cannot find it specifically. Doesnt appear on my device manager properly..
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To sideload full android apps I use ADB on my laptop. This uses the laptops usb link to my phone, my phone then "pushes" and installs the apk files to the watch via bluetooth. You start with the apks on the laptop and use the correct ADB commands to install to the watch. Slow, but it works.
The watch will not install apk files sideloaded directly to the watch.
Most full android apps will not run at all....but some do.....

Need a phone with auto-answer that WORKS

Hi
As we all know, from Android 5 none of the auto answer apps work, so please don't make an app suggestion if you can't prove that it works.
I have a disability that prevents me from reliably answering calls. I used to have an LG G3 that was able to automatically answer calls when a headset was connected. I forgot which version it was running but it may have been 4.x. I sold it and replaced it with a Huawei P9 without realizing that I would lose the auto answer feature. This is such a critical feature that I could not imagine it not existing in current phones.
Which brings me to the question: does there exist a current generation phone that has auto answer built in? Or do I have to buy something four generations old?

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