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Exynos 5 Octa and Snapdragon 800

Does anyone else think that the new-generation Exynos SoC will support 802.11ac and LTE-A? Or playing back 1080p video at 60 fps and 2k quality at 30 fps? These are features which were never really discussed about the chipset itself.
The Snapdragon 800 was confirmed to have compatibility and capability of all of the aforementioned. It sounds as if the Snapdragon 800 series will be the superior chipset, while the Exynos Octa will likely provide better power efficiency in some regard. It would be pretty disappointing if the Galaxy S IV got stuck with a Snapdragon 600 processor, given the date it's likely going to be pushed out on. It might make me consider the Note this time around.

i really hope all these rumors are fake, samsung should use Exynos on there flagship Galaxy S line ! if not the octa, maybe the Exynos 5 Quad Core 1.8-2.0GHz !

All the Snapdragon 600 happens to be is a mid-tear SoC, which improves upon the same GPU and performance of the S4 Pro. Real A15 architectures should blow this chipset out of the water. People seem to think that what they see now is good. But when the Snapdragon 800 and other A15-based chips start making their debut, this will feel dated quickly in the coming months.

megagodx said:
All the Snapdragon 600 happens to be is a mid-tear SoC, which improves upon the same GPU and performance of the S4 Pro. Real A15 architectures should blow this chipset out of the water. People seem to think that what they see now is good. But when the Snapdragon 800 and other A15-based chips start making their debut, this will feel dated quickly in the coming months.
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clock-per-clock a15 is just 15% faster than krait, dont think that there's so much differences between the two.
they are both really solid performers and the batle is all on the maximum clock/power required rateo.

The SD800 will also feature Quick Charge 2.0, which is supposed to charge your battery 75% faster than other SoC chipsets without that same function. SD600 doesn't feature that either. I'm pretty sure if you seen the initial Tegra 4 benchmarks (based off of real A15 architecture) - they wipe the floor with the HTC One's SD600. Being 75% increased in performance over the Snapdragon S4 Pro (last year's best mobile SoC), the SD800 should bring comparatively the same or better results than the T4 mentioned. That's kind of going to be a disappointment if the S IV ends up with a SD600 and no Exynos 5 Quad/Octa, at least.

Mediapad X3 ?

http://digi.tech.qq.com/a/20160316/005231.htm
http://www.tenaa.com.cn/WSFW/Licenc...T1A/6Ggkk5UOAsR4gGB6L2A4f/uiCEbVjYF4yJ+4zpNtB

http://www.gizchina.com/2016/03/19/huawei-honor-x3-passes-trough-tenaa-confirms-specifications/
Back in January, rumors of a possible Huawei Honor X2 successor started to pop out. According with previous rumors, the tablet named as Huawei Honor X3, would be unveiled during CES packing a nice set of specs. However it was a no show until the most recent leaks at TENAA.
Originally, we were expecting the device to come with 6.2-inch 2K device, Kirin 950 processor alongside 4GB of Ram and 64GB of Storage. Previous benchmarks also suggested Android 6.0 in a newer version of EMUI. We cannot say what happened with the device on those leaks, but we got a different picture in the TENAA Honor X3 documentation.
According to TENAA, the Huawei Honor X3 boasts a larger 7-inch display with 1920×1200 resolution. The horsepower is given with the use of Snapdragon 615, a quite old and deprecated choice in 2016; Huawei could at least consider the 616 version that fixes all the problems found in the 615, other specs include 2GB of Ram and 16GB of Storage.
The Huawei Honor X3 also comes with a generous 13MP rear camera and 5MP unit on the front. We also found the presence of a fingerprint scanner on device’s border, just below power button, a new placement that we are seeing more often this year. Finally, the device houses a 4320mAh battery to provide enough juice to run out the specs.

Hey bark,
Thanks for posting this. In my opinion, these specs seem highly unrealistic and under par even in comparison to the current X2. I'll gamble and say the specs for the X3 will be much better than the ones quoted in this article...

ya maybe they might have a lite and a pro version for x3. and this one could be of lite.

A Snapdragon processor means there will probably be a CM based rom for it in the future.

Snapdragon means NO Dual Sim Full Active.... So I have to look to other device.

cmvrgr said:
Snapdragon means NO Dual Sim Full Active.... So I have to look to other device.
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My Mi Max has a Snapdragon 652 and is DSDS.

Which Phone would you use as a daily driver?

This question is more for Developers\Advanced Users\Geeks, than the normal user\average Joe (who uses the phone 90% for Calls \SMS , Whatsapp and just a few games like Candy Crush\Fruit Ninja and a little Web surfing):
Which Phone would you prefer? Phone A or Phone B ?
I personally can't decide which I should use..
I will not (yet) post Geekbench\Antutu because:
1) The App says the name of the phone, so it wouldn't be a blind poll anymore
2) I don't really trust these more popular tests anymore because money CAN buy results or at least app optimization so less popular (but well made) apps are more likely to tell the truth
Please Read the whole text above ^ and carefully look at the Screenshots I attached before posting.. Saying that I should just choose the one with the higher numbers\benchmarks would prove to me that you do not (ever?) read the Original Post and just like troll every thread you find, OR if you did read, it would make me doubt that your IQ is enough for the xda forum.

Obviously one would choose higher benchmarks.

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Please be civil and respect each other.
There is absolutely no need for foul language.
Let's keep it on topic please.
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Hey.
Given your use, I would say that Phone A is the best choice. Better graphics, better Ram, onlty has a worse read and write speed (although it's half the speed, which is bad).
Still, for the type of use you describe, can't really see why you would pick phone B since it does not take a lot of read speed to open those apps decently.
Any reason for you not saying which phones they are? You clearly know that tests are not all the story, and saying wich phones these are you are letting people with that phone tell you about their experience
This does look like a Pixel vs Galaxy S7 though.

badjoras said:
Hey.
Given your use, I would say that Phone A is the best choice. Better graphics, better Ram, onlty has a worse read and write speed (although it's half the speed, which is bad).
Still, for the type of use you describe, can't really see why you would pick phone B since it does not take a lot of read speed to open those apps decently.
Any reason for you not saying which phones they are? You clearly know that tests are not all the story, and saying wich phones these are you are letting people with that phone tell you about their experience
This does look like a Pixel vs Galaxy S7 though.
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thanks for your reply... you understood me wrongly...I said ''This question is for Developers\Advanced Users\Geeks, {not for } the normal user\average Joe (because [average Joe- meaning most people] uses their phone 90% for Calls \SMS , Whatsapp and just a few games like Candy Crush\Fruit Ninja and a little Web surfing)'' and they don't know anything about these geeky things.. so the cannot help me with the question. ..but that doesn't matter..it's not the point here. I just wanted to see what other people think is more important: RAM speed or NAND speed.
NOW THE DISCLOSURE:
Phone A is the Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Snapdragon 820 with adreno 530, 4gb ram,-flashed with Lineage OS ) -cost me 200€ (almost a year ago)
Phone B is the S8+ (Exynos 8895, 4gb ram) cost me 900€
Of course in all other Benchmarks (Geekbench, Antutu, Basemark OS, Basemark X,Basemark ES 3.1, 3D Mark, Lightmark, Brue Bench Pro etc) the S8+ absolutely dominates\destroys the ZUK but in these 2, where ONLY the RAM (and the Storage) gets tested , the difference is not that big between the 2 Smartphones.
In daily use I cannot see a difference in responsiveness with both of them..If I could, I wouldn't have made this thread, and would have decided on my own (which one I should use daily).
P.S: It couldn't have been the Pixel because: see my Signature (phone history).. I never had that ugly ''Ferrari''

sensationvsgalaxy said:
thanks for your reply... you understood me wrongly...I said ''This question is for Developers\Advanced Users\Geeks, {not for } the normal user\average Joe (because [average Joe- meaning most people] uses their phone 90% for Calls \SMS , Whatsapp and just a few games like Candy Crush\Fruit Ninja and a little Web surfing)'' and they don't know anything about these geeky things.. so the cannot help me with the question. ..but that doesn't matter..it's not the point here. I just wanted to see what other people think is more important: RAM speed or NAND speed.
NOW THE DISCLOSURE:
Phone A is the Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Snapdragon 820 with adreno 530, 4gb ram,-flashed with Lineage OS ) -cost me 200€ (almost a year ago)
Phone B is the S8+ (Exynos 8895, 4gb ram) cost me 900€
Of course in all other Benchmarks (Geekbench, Antutu, Basemark OS, Basemark X,Basemark ES 3.1, 3D Mark, Lightmark, Brue Bench Pro etc) the S8+ absolutely dominates\destroys the ZUK but in these 2, where ONLY the RAM (and the Storage) gets tested , the difference is not that big between the 2 Smartphones.
In daily use I cannot see a difference in responsiveness with both of them..If I could, I wouldn't have made this thread, and would have decided on my own (which one I should use daily).
P.S: It couldn't have been the Pixel because: see my Signature (phone history).. I never had that ugly ''Ferrari''
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Sorry for misreading your text.
I have a S8+ but I have had just about everything that was graded as a flagship since the time when flagships were snapdragon 600s (htc one m7 and s4) and before that all galaxy S phones.
I have had phones with the snapdragons: 800, 801, 805, 810, 820 and now 835
The thing is, could you tell the difference between what you have benchmarked in the real world? I don't think so.
Can you tell the difference between a snapdragon 800 and a 805? I sure couldnt and had a few 800s; Could you tell the difference between a 800 and a 810? definetly, although subtle; Could I tell the difference between a 810 and a 820? yup, but it's even more subtle... but from a 820 to a 835? No way.
Funny enough, you can tell the difference between a galaxy s6 and a oneplus 2, or between a Mi Mix and a S7, and both these comparisons have the same processors (hell, if we are comparing exynos, the samsungs have a more powerful processor)... The chinese phones are faster
This said, if you want to chose between a SD820 and a SD835 based on real world performance, the difference if negligible at best; if you want to go by benchmarks my Exynos s8+ scores 181k on antutu (overclocked 2.5ghz scores 5-6k more) and that is a full 20k faster than a OnePlus 3t with a SD821.
My advice won't be geeky or anything like that, we got to a point where we are putting more horsepower in a car that has no more runway to run. No app laggs a 820.
If you have both phones, use as a daily driver the phone that suits your needs better.
A phone is not a processor nor a LDDR4 ram, a phone is a whole and as a whole, AT THIS MOMENT, nothing beats the S8+ in my opinion.

badjoras said:
Sorry for misreading your text.
I have a S8+ but I have had just about everything that was graded as a flagship since the time when flagships were snapdragon 600s (htc one m7 and s4) and before that all galaxy S phones.
I have had phones with the snapdragons: 800, 801, 805, 810, 820 and now 835
The thing is, could you tell the difference between what you have benchmarked in the real world? I don't think so.
Can you tell the difference between a snapdragon 800 and a 805? I sure couldnt and had a few 800s; Could you tell the difference between a 800 and a 810? definetly, although subtle; Could I tell the difference between a 810 and a 820? yup, but it's even more subtle... but from a 820 to a 835? No way.
Funny enough, you can tell the difference between a galaxy s6 and a oneplus 2, or between a Mi Mix and a S7, and both these comparisons have the same processors (hell, if we are comparing exynos, the samsungs have a more powerful processor)... The chinese phones are faster
This said, if you want to chose between a SD820 and a SD835 based on real world performance, the difference if negligible at best; if you want to go by benchmarks my Exynos s8+ scores 181k on antutu (overclocked 2.5ghz scores 5-6k more) and that is a full 20k faster than a OnePlus 3t with a SD821.
My advice won't be geeky or anything like that, we got to a point where we are putting more horsepower in a car that has no more runway to run. No app laggs a 820.
If you have both phones, use as a daily driver the phone that suits your needs better.
A phone is not a processor nor a LDDR4 ram, a phone is a whole and as a whole, AT THIS MOMENT, nothing beats the S8+ in my opinion.
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I agree with everything you said..except the last sentence:
There is something faster than a s8+: a s8+ WITH CYANOGENMOD\LINEAGE OS or Oxygen OS:angel::angel::silly::victory:

Decided to sell my p2

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sam00561 said:
My phone is a p2a42 32gb 4gb ram version bought in the UK 3 store and i will in the coming days be listing it on ebay. It is still in very good condition being only 5 months old and always been in a case. I will add the link for the ebay listing once i put it on ebay.
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If I were you, I'd wait a bit until snapdragon 660 devices proliferate the market. The Z Play is almost identical to the P2 specwise. The snapdragon 660 is a significant upgrade in terms performance. It has 4 fast cores (A72) and 4 slow cores (A53) as opposed to 8 A53 cores on the 625. Just wait a bit and I'm sure you can find a device with a better camera and better software support.

medwatt said:
If I were you, I'd wait a bit until snapdragon 660 devices proliferate the market. The Z Play is almost identical to the P2 specwise. The snapdragon 660 is a significant upgrade in terms performance. It has 4 fast cores (A72) and 4 slow cores (A53) as opposed to 8 A53 cores on the 625. Just wait a bit and I'm sure you can find a device with a better camera and better software support.[/QUOTE
I did quite a bit of research before making my decision and should be happy with with the 625 moto because the processor is not really my issue I think the 625 is a very good processor my only problem was the camera and laboured development.Also I think the moto z line has a more premium look to there phones.
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Fully agree with medwatt...
I'll wait for SD660 Device... Seams like Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Plus will get I decent hardware and I miss my Redmi Note 3 Pro

what if SD660 with the same camera ...what you will decide then ....from what i saw ...these sony Samsung sensors are the main sensor's in the mid range phones

sam00561 said:
I will add the link for the ebay listing once i put it on ebay.
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Please don't do that,selling advertisements are not allowed on Xda.

ok no problem

730g soc

I own pocophone f1 and i love it . And i always say i will buy f2 when he come out . But 730 g why go down ? 845 is way better

its the new chipset like xiaomi note 10
ChipsetQualcomm SDM730 Snapdragon 730G (8 nm)

Because chipset 730 is newest chipset for a gaming experience and battery life better. sorry for my bad english.

Yes but its not better ?

Why do you ask us?
Ask them: https://www.mi.com/global/support/contact

Flockrock said:
Why do you ask us?
Ask them: https://www.mi.com/global/support/contact
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Well i ask becose its "xiaomi poco 2 questions answers" i think i didnt do some bad thing becouse i ask .

vislavskid said:
Well i ask becose its "xiaomi poco 2 questions answers" i think i didnt do some bad thing becouse i ask .
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Rather discussion.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/message-moderators-users-please-read-t3503775
Just think for once.
Why should they bring another phone with an two years old 845, when they already have?
If they would go with the 855, why should they? They already offer more than enough phones with 855.
If they would go with the 865, can they keep the low price? Also they release plenty of other phones with 865, why another one?
And why would you buy a X2 with 845, if you already have a F1 with 845?
Why don't you just consider buying one with the 855 or 865 if you care so much about performance?

Flockrock said:
Rather discussion.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/message-moderators-users-please-read-t3503775
Just think for once.
Why should they bring another phone with an two years old 845, when they already have?
If they would go with the 855, why should they? They already offer more than enough phones with 855.
If they would go with the 865, can they keep the low price? Also they release plenty of other phones with 865, why another one?
And why would you buy a X2 with 845, if you already have a F1 with 845?
Why don't you just consider buying one with the 855 or 865 if you care so much about performance?
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I agree, 730g would be a let down in terms of performance, 845 can still beat 730g in gaming department. I'm also worried how 730g will handle 120 frames every second, even if it's new it's still not upto 800 series. Poco F1 was success because they provided a flagship processor at midrange price but now 730g a mid range processor at mid range price with 120hz screen gimmick, not very exciting.

Manish355 said:
I agree, 730g would be a let down in terms of performance, 845 can still beat 730g in gaming department. I'm also worried how 730g will handle 120 frames every second, even if it's new it's still not upto 800 series. Poco F1 was success because they provided a flagship processor at midrange price but now 730g a mid range processor at mid range price with 120hz screen gimmick, not very exciting.
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Poco x2 its not poco f2 becouse off that .I was think the same but then i seen on xiaomi website that is only name for global version . K30 or global poco x2 . Pocophone f2 will be like poco f1 great with top specs. Sry for bad english

Poco X2 =/= Poco F1's successor = Poco F2. You are in the wrong forum.
And to the person above, 730G is perfectly capable of handling 120Hz. Nor it's a "gimmic". The difference is eminent.
Using Oneplus 6 (SD845) alongside with K30. I feel no apparant difference in terms of performance.

According to antutu scores Snapdragon 730G score is 40K lesser than the SD 845 and 100K lesser than the SD 855.

Does anyone know about the benchmark of this chipset?

Pankajghosh said:
Does anyone know about the benchmark of this chipset?
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The antutu benchmarks score for this chipset is 259109.

Antutu is irrelevant of real life performance. Anything from 730G and up is descent performance nowdays even for a mobile gamer. Hardcore gamers will opt for a gaming mobile as the Black Shark or the ROG phone

Stonejacob said:
The antutu benchmarks score for this chipset is 259109.
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730G and SD675 both is doing well

A Poco with 865 is very hard to happen, because the 865 cpu + modem alone cost $100+. F1 have 845 because Qualcomm discount it, but 855 and 855+ haven't had any.
Aside from this, X2 is basically a rebranded K30, so can the K30 use the same rom as X2? Have anyone tried?

Snapdragon 730G has Kryo 470 CPU - 2 Powerful Cortex-A76 cores and 6 Efficiency Cortex-A55 cores with a clock speed of 2.2GHz and 1.8GHz
Snapdragon 845 has a Kryo 385 - 4 powerful Cortex-A75 cores at 2.8GHz and 4 efficiency cores at 1.8GHz
Snapdragon 730G have some of the Elite Gaming features like Anti Cheat Extensions, Junk Reducer, and HDR Gaming is added to Snapdragon 730G. Snapdragon 845 doesn’t have the Elite Gaming features.
730G has Qualcomm’s 4th Gen AI Engine. It has Hexagon Vector Extensions as well as Hexagon Tensor Accelerator
845 Qualcomm 3rd generation AI Engine. It only has a Hexagon Vector Accelerator.
730G is being an SoC of the newer generation and hence has better innovative things like the AI department.

Honestly here in Pakistan we actually don't care much about Poco X2. Xiaomi already launched MI 9T Pro at the same price they launched Poco F1 for around 369 USD. For the time being my Poco F1 will still last at least another year and after that i will think about upgrading to another phone but will definitely be from Xiaomi.
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BasantSinha said:
Snapdragon 730G has Kryo 470 CPU - 2 Powerful Cortex-A76 cores and 6 Efficiency Cortex-A55 cores with a clock speed of 2.2GHz and 1.8GHz
Snapdragon 845 has a Kryo 385 - 4 powerful Cortex-A75 cores at 2.8GHz and 4 efficiency cores at 1.8GHz
Snapdragon 730G have some of the Elite Gaming features like Anti Cheat Extensions, Junk Reducer, and HDR Gaming is added to Snapdragon 730G. Snapdragon 845 doesn’t have the Elite Gaming features.
730G has Qualcomm’s 4th Gen AI Engine. It has Hexagon Vector Extensions as well as Hexagon Tensor Accelerator
845 Qualcomm 3rd generation AI Engine. It only has a Hexagon Vector Accelerator.
730G is being an SoC of the newer generation and hence has better innovative things like the AI department.
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No matter what they include. You have to accept that SD 730G just can't beat SD 845 in terms of performance.