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Hi Everyone! Yes, I'm a NOOB, I've never done anything on the developer side of things.
For Father's Day my wife bought me the MyTablet which has ended up to be a bit of a scam...1ghz processor, I have 16gb of memory with another 16gb card in it.
Info on my tablet:
Model Number: A10_MID
Android Version: 4.0.3
Baseband version: 4.0.11
Kernel Version: 3.0.8+ ([email protected] #8)
Build Number: crane_q7-eng 4.0.3 IML74K 2020520525 test-keys
System update feature indicates it is up to date.
Anyway, I've had some issues, it seems the company was really a 1 man shop that has disappeared, doesn't
respond to phone calls or emails, etc. Several of the apps I have such as the music player it came with doesn't
keep my playlists, and lately the thing has been shutting down at 64-71% power on the battery. So, I'm thinking
it's either faulty hardware or faulty software. That's not to mention that many apps on the google store said my device
was not compatible with it.
Since I can't do anything about the faulty hardware part at this point (the 2 year warranty was apparently a waste of money)
I thought of wiping the entire thing and starting out fresh with a new O/S. Any suggestions? I was thinking of attempting to turn this into a Nexus 7 type tablet which means installing Jelly Bean, preferably 4.2. I'm not sure how to go about this, but I've been looking around the forums and see there are lots of ROMs out there or maybe it's a Port I'd need. Would you guys recommend going the way of the Nexus 7 or perhaps a different android incarnation?
The Black Rose one found in these forums seemed interesting.
I found these forums and a way to wipe my tablet and add another in this article on techradar.com about how to install android on other devices
but I want to make sure I get something good and can do it correctly.
Boils down to these questions,
1.) Which O/S would you recommend for the tablet?
2.) Which files and/or file types should I download?
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
I have been looking one source of solid information in this phone but seems to have too many conflicting opinions.
I have not rooted a phone before, but I'm comfortable following directions and taking things step by step. I have built many PCs, repaired laptops, installed OSs, even some analog cable and satellite "testing" in the past.
I have Nougat on my tablet and it looks pretty cool so far. I was wondering if I can root/mod and load Nougat on my phone. It seems that many places say YES, the Galaxy S5 can get Nougat. Only to find a note somewhere in the instructions that the SM-G900A is not supported, just about every other one is.
So......
Can I root this phone?
Can I put Nougat on it?
Is there really any benefit to doing either or would I just be wasting my time.
Can I go back to the stock AT&T software if I have issues?
If I do that will it go back to the ORIGINAL OS that was on it or back to the current version of Marshmallow that I have on it now?
Thanks, any suggestions are welcome.
Matt.
I thought that this post was best placed on the Lenovo forum but apaarently not, as it mysteriously dissappeared straight after I posted it. Perhaps those ownsers will find this one -
"Why Lenovo P2 is not getting Nougat update in UK?" – 25 pages and counting…
"Update to Android O" – 31 pages and counting…
"Unable to sync gmail contacts properly" – 18 pages and counting…
"Re: P2 - Notification Problem!" – 4 pages and counting…
And that doesn’t include all the other threads relating to these subject, there and on other sites.
Lenovo, or more specifically, the people at Lenovo should be ashamed. Not because they have created something with defects, no-one/nothing is perfect, but because they aren’t willing (or able) to come out and admit it. It would save a great deal of time, effort and possibly money, if someone in a position we could trust would just state, in writing, that –
There won’t be any security or operating software updates for the P2.
There will be/is no software/settings fix for the lack of notification and/or contacts sync.
Software changes are fairly cheap and simple (if anything relating to modern tech could be described as such) whereas hardware is not.
Just admit that, embarrassing as it may be, the P2 is flawed.
Promise your P2 customers that you’ve made changes to the way you do things and that (hopefully) it won’t happen again.
Thank those same customers for buying the P2 in the first place and apologize that you’ve let them down. Maybe then, some of those customers (and new ones) might buy Lenovo products.
Or is it too much to acknowledge that Motorola could do it but they couldn’t?
Or are they too worried that Google, not wanting to be linked with the bugs, will end their agreement to allow them to use Android?
On paper, the P2 is a great piece of kit, that’s why I bought one. However, if all I wanted was something to make and receive calls and to send and receive texts (plus a few extras), I’d still be using my 5310 with its replaceable battery. If I could afford to, I’d buy something else now but, safe to say, when I can, it won’t be a Lenovo, or a Motorola, just in case they get infected by association. Maybe a Google phone, you’d think that they would know how the software and hardware will work together, and I’ll get updates.
I clearly understand why you're fed up with it. Lenovo does really nearly to nothing to support the P2.
In my case, I knew from the get to that I would reflash my phone with a custom rom since stock never came close to them. In any case.
I have used stock AOSP on this phone as well, bugless, fast and stable.
Custom rom can have bugs as well but they are fixable or at least not noticeable. Not all of them though.
Wile_E_Coyote said:
I thought that this post was best placed on the Lenovo forum but apaarently not, as it mysteriously dissappeared straight after I posted it. Perhaps those ownsers will find this one -
"Why Lenovo P2 is not getting Nougat update in UK?" – 25 pages and counting…
"Update to Android O" – 31 pages and counting…
"Unable to sync gmail contacts properly" – 18 pages and counting…
"Re: P2 - Notification Problem!" – 4 pages and counting…
And that doesn’t include all the other threads relating to these subject, there and on other sites.
Lenovo, or more specifically, the people at Lenovo should be ashamed. Not because they have created something with defects, no-one/nothing is perfect, but because they aren’t willing (or able) to come out and admit it. It would save a great deal of time, effort and possibly money, if someone in a position we could trust would just state, in writing, that –
There won’t be any security or operating software updates for the P2.
There will be/is no software/settings fix for the lack of notification and/or contacts sync.
Software changes are fairly cheap and simple (if anything relating to modern tech could be described as such) whereas hardware is not.
Just admit that, embarrassing as it may be, the P2 is flawed.
Promise your P2 customers that you’ve made changes to the way you do things and that (hopefully) it won’t happen again.
Thank those same customers for buying the P2 in the first place and apologize that you’ve let them down. Maybe then, some of those customers (and new ones) might buy Lenovo products.
Or is it too much to acknowledge that Motorola could do it but they couldn’t?
Or are they too worried that Google, not wanting to be linked with the bugs, will end their agreement to allow them to use Android?
On paper, the P2 is a great piece of kit, that’s why I bought one. However, if all I wanted was something to make and receive calls and to send and receive texts (plus a few extras), I’d still be using my 5310 with its replaceable battery. If I could afford to, I’d buy something else now but, safe to say, when I can, it won’t be a Lenovo, or a Motorola, just in case they get infected by association. Maybe a Google phone, you’d think that they would know how the software and hardware will work together, and I’ll get updates.
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Lucky we have our devs
sm00th4f3 said:
I clearly understand why you're fed up with it. Lenovo does really nearly to nothing to support the P2.
In my case, I knew from the get to that I would reflash my phone with a custom rom since stock never came close to them. In any case.
I have used stock AOSP on this phone as well, bugless, fast and stable.
Custom rom can have bugs as well but they are fixable or at least not noticeable. Not all of them though.
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Another option to add to the list and something (as a newcomer to Android and mobile phone modding) I'm having to learn and it's a pretty steep learning curve.
After going round in ever decreasing circles until I very nearly disappeared up my own orifice over the last few months, I decided to do nothing and to just put up with things as they are. For every post that says what they did helped, there is another saying it didn’t work for them and for every updated OS there is one asking how to get back to Stock MM.
Stock ROMs, Rooting, 7, 7.1.2, 8, 8.1…the options seem endless and scary! If someone else bricks you phone, at least you can blame them but if you bring the misery on yourself…
You say you used a stock AOSP, If you don't mind, could you say which one and how you did it (with any snags you came across). You also note that there are still some bugs. What are they? If I can live with them instead of the ones I’ve got, I certainly consider doing it.
For first time you can't go wrong with the official LineageOS. Just go to their website and check the wiki, it has a comprehensive guide for flashing from the beginning and it will be fine if you follow it.
XDAquareis said:
For first time you can't go wrong with the official LineageOS. Just go to their website and check the wiki, it has a comprehensive guide for flashing from the beginning and it will be fine if you follow it.
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Apologies for being so hesitant but having never done it before, it's a big, scary step (where have I heard that before...oh, yes...). You used the word "official", there are lots of LineageOS for the Lenovo P2 but no mention of "official", is one of the nightly builds okay to use?
Wile_E_Coyote said:
Apologies for being so hesitant but having never done it before, it's a big, scary step (where have I heard that before...oh, yes...). You used the word "official", there are lots of LineageOS for the Lenovo P2 but no mention of "official", is one of the nightly builds okay to use?
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Yes, but I wouldn't recommend los 14.1
Use a Oreo rom by subham or firelord.
sm00th4f3 said:
I clearly understand why you're fed up with it. Lenovo does really nearly to nothing to support the P2.
In my case, I knew from the get to that I would reflash my phone with a custom rom since stock never came close to them. In any case.
I have used stock AOSP on this phone as well, bugless, fast and stable.
Custom rom can have bugs as well but they are fixable or at least not noticeable. Not all of them though.
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b50corei5 said:
Yes, but I wouldn't recommend los 14.1
Use a Oreo rom by subham or firelord.
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Many thanks for your time and advice.
[ROM][8.1.x][kuntao][OFFICIAL] Cardinal-AOSP - It's all a bit scary but I'm going for it! :fingers-crossed:
Wile_E_Coyote said:
Many thanks for your time and advice.
[ROM][8.1.x][kuntao][OFFICIAL] Cardinal-AOSP - It's all a bit scary but I'm going for it! :fingers-crossed:
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Good luck ?
Remember to do a backup before you start
Due to a little frustration I decided to create a whole thread for this.
I suck at computers and I have no idea what I am doing so I ended up bricking my device lmao.
In theory, the thought of rooting your device, and installing a custom OS sounds great! (Like communism) but when put in practice never really works out. The reason for that (I think) is because there are so many different versions, models, and brands. I end up spending all my time trying to refine my search to the right software and versions, and then when I do, I am stuck with some stupid site like (every damn rom site) with a 20kb/s download rate, and a page full of ads! Why? Because they are storing like 2 billion different 2GB roms. In my opinion paying for faster download speed from these websites is ridiculous. I don't even know why they offer (you would have to be stupid(like me)).
(tl;dr: Android SUCKS)
So, now to my actual question...
With the release of the Librem 5 phone, there really is not going to be a point to rooting phones anymore, because google with already be decimated from it... But that comes out in April/May and I still need a phone in the meantime.
So.. Are there any cheap phones ($500+/-), that are not a pain in the ass to root? And one that the developers actually care about to actively develop. All I wan't is a phone I can install stock android with root, and that can be installed without google or gapps. Also I live in Canada, which is another reason why it's a pain in the ass to find a decent phone because all our carriers deadbolt their firmware, and bootloaders like their storing the coordinates to some secret location with a pot of gold.
starscrpt said:
Due to a little frustration I decided to create a whole thread for this.
I suck at computers and I have no idea what I am doing so I ended up bricking my device lmao.
In theory, the thought of rooting your device, and installing a custom OS sounds great! (Like communism) but when put in practice never really works out. The reason for that (I think) is because there are so many different versions, models, and brands. I end up spending all my time trying to refine my search to the right software and versions, and then when I do, I am stuck with some stupid site like (every damn rom site) with a 20kb/s download rate, and a page full of ads! Why? Because they are storing like 2 billion different 2GB roms. In my opinion paying for faster download speed from these websites is ridiculous. I don't even know why they offer (you would have to be stupid(like me)).
(tl;dr: Android SUCKS)
So, now to my actual question...
With the release of the Librem 5 phone, there really is not going to be a point to rooting phones anymore, because google with already be decimated from it... But that comes out in April/May and I still need a phone in the meantime.
So.. Are there any cheap phones ($500+/-), that are not a pain in the ass to root? And one that the developers actually care about to actively develop. All I wan't is a phone I can install stock android with root, and that can be installed without google or gapps. Also I live in Canada, which is another reason why it's a pain in the ass to find a decent phone because all our carriers deadbolt their firmware, and bootloaders like their storing the coordinates to some secret location with a pot of gold.
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Get something that is not a Samsung, not carrier branded(an international model) and is factory unlocked or can be unlocked.
I suggest you just do some searching to find some devices that you are interested in, then write down the model number of each device and then do some Google searches using those model numbers one at a time to see if a known rooting method exists for each model, then do some Google searching to see if TWRP exists for each model number, then do some searches to see if there are ROMs available for each model number.
We can't predict the future and say which devices will have a rooting method, we can only point you to devices that have already had a known rooting method discovered for that model, you can find that information yourself by doing the Google searches listed below.
To find root methods for the devices:
"Root for (specific device model number here)"
That should find root method for the device in question.
To find TWRP or custom recovery for the devices:
"TWRP for (specific device model number here)"
Or
"Custom recovery for (specific device model number here)"
That should find TWRP or custom recovery if it exists for the device in question.
To find custom ROMs for the devices:
"Custom ROMs for (specific device model number here)"
That should find ROMs if they exist for the device in question.
You might want to consider getting an international device directly from the manufacturer that is factory unlocked or can be unlocked(also known as SIM/carrier unlocked) instead of getting a carrier branded/sold device. Factory direct doesn't come with bloatware and unlocked/unlockable means it should be able to be activated on your carrier network.
Also, make sure the device has a factory unlocked bootloader(this is not the same thing as SIM/carrier unlocked) or can at least be unlocked using a known and verified unlock method. The unlocked bootloader is required if you want to flash custom recovery or custom ROMs.
If you just want to use the stock firmware and modify it to remove the Google stuff, unlocked bootloader won't be required for that. But, if you are going to just modify the stock software already on the device, I will advise you to make sure that the stock firmware for that device is available for download and then download a copy of it just in case you mess something up in the process of removing Google and its components, then you can just flash the firmware on the device to fix it(if you don't screw it up too bad, that is).
I would really recommend that you choose a device that has:
1) an unlocked/unlockable bootloader so that you can flash TWRP on the device
2) has an available downloadable stock firmware so that you can repair the device, if needed
3) has a TWRP recovery available so it can be installed on the device and then used to create a backup of your unmodified stock ROM, then you can modify the device and if you screw something up, you can use TWRP to restore the backup that you create, this will return the device to working condition.
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Droidriven pretty much covered it extremely well.
With regards to rooting:
It often can raise the stress levels beyond normal. Set aside time and take each step slowly and deliberately. Some guides can be much worse than others.
PS. Your idea of a cheap phone is at least 3x the cost of my idea of a cheap phone
The Asus Zenfone 6 just released bootloader unlock and kernel source so there should be a fairly healthy dev community when its released in the US.
The librem 5 ?? I dunno , on my list for sure . but hardware specs soundsmeh for the price . And will we be able to install ubuntu software like clementine music play ? jeez if so that would make up for the lack hardware.
looks like 2019 q3 is going to be an exciting time. I want the zenfone 6 but I dunno..... that librem 5 ubuntu phone is going to need to be checked out once rc is released .
I need help from someone a lot smarter than me. First time poster, but no stranger to rooting. (If I break some protocol, please correct me, I want to be a good citizen.)
Background (can be skipped)
I bought a Note 20 Ultra 5G (model #SM-N9860F) from a guy for a steal of a deal. Now I know why. Before buying we started it up and made a phone call, so I figured most everything else would be fine. Took it home and started messing with it, only to find it laggy and exhibiting other odd behaviors. So I went to check for updates before loading it up with my stuff.
But there was no Update button. I tapped "Software Info" and the next thing I saw made me read it three times. It showed, "Android version: 5.1."
Issues
So...
The phone functions but with lag and issues. SIM is recognized, then unrecognized. SIM cannot be used for data (though wifi is fine).
Not kidding, Kingo Root says it was able to root this Snapdragon phone. Root Checker Basic confirms it as rooted.
Using all the various key combinations posted all over the Internet, I cannot get into Download mode. I've tried for days.
Rebooting into Recovery shows Chinese options. (After many days of messing with it I finally found a way for it to show the English list...happy to share how I got there if anyone cares.)
The phone does connect to a Windows PC successfully via USB and can share files to internal and external memory.
Interestingly, the 500GB of internal memory only shows a fraction of it as available. Wondering if Android 5.1 just can't recognize that much space.
Bottom line
I am unable to get into Download mode. When I do get to where I think Download mode should be, the green Android guy is lying down with the words "No command" underneath. Therefore I can't use Odin, or a paid service, or Samsung Smart Switch...even tried the old Kies, since it has Android 5.1 on it. ALL of them require me to get into Download mode, and it just won't go.
Plan B?: I've heard repeatedly that rooting a Note 20 Ultra is (nearly?) impossible. Since multiple apps on my device insist I successfully rooted it, I was hoping I could use the TWRP app (it's installed) to flash something that could help. But I don't know what that would be, or if it would help at all. TWRP doesn't recognize the .zip, .tar, or any other files I've found and copied to the device. Maybe it's looking for a .img? I'm just not sure, and I don't even know what to look for.
Additional info
I've attached a few screen shots and photos.
I'd be ever so grateful for anyone's guidance. Again,
How can I get into Download mode? Seems that would get me back on the paths I know better.
And/or what can I flash using TWRP on what appears to be a rooted device? Would that even help?
Thank you!
kbtraveler said:
I need help from someone a lot smarter than me. First time poster, but no stranger to rooting. (If I break some protocol, please correct me, I want to be a good citizen.)
Background (can be skipped)
I bought a Note 20 Ultra 5G (model #SM-N9860F) from a guy for a steal of a deal. Now I know why. Before buying we started it up and made a phone call, so I figured most everything else would be fine. Took it home and started messing with it, only to find it laggy and exhibiting other odd behaviors. So I went to check for updates before loading it up with my stuff.
But there was no Update button. I tapped "Software Info" and the next thing I saw made me read it three times. It showed, "Android version: 5.1."
Issues
So...
The phone functions but with lag and issues. SIM is recognized, then unrecognized. SIM cannot be used for data (though wifi is fine).
Not kidding, Kingo Root says it was able to root this Snapdragon phone. Root Checker Basic confirms it as rooted.
Using all the various key combinations posted all over the Internet, I cannot get into Download mode. I've tried for days.
Rebooting into Recovery shows Chinese options. (After many days of messing with it I finally found a way for it to show the English list...happy to share how I got there if anyone cares.)
The phone does connect to a Windows PC successfully via USB and can share files to internal and external memory.
Interestingly, the 500GB of internal memory only shows a fraction of it as available. Wondering if Android 5.1 just can't recognize that much space.
Bottom line
I am unable to get into Download mode. When I do get to where I think Download mode should be, the green Android guy is lying down with the words "No command" underneath. Therefore I can't use Odin, or a paid service, or Samsung Smart Switch...even tried the old Kies, since it has Android 5.1 on it. ALL of them require me to get into Download mode, and it just won't go.
Plan B?: I've heard repeatedly that rooting a Note 20 Ultra is (nearly?) impossible. Since multiple apps on my device insist I successfully rooted it, I was hoping I could use the TWRP app (it's installed) to flash something that could help. But I don't know what that would be, or if it would help at all. TWRP doesn't recognize the .zip, .tar, or any other files I've found and copied to the device. Maybe it's looking for a .img? I'm just not sure, and I don't even know what to look for.
Additional info
I've attached a few screen shots and photos.
I'd be ever so grateful for anyone's guidance. Again,
How can I get into Download mode? Seems that would get me back on the paths I know better.
And/or what can I flash using TWRP on what appears to be a rooted device? Would that even help?
Thank you!
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Sounds like you got what you paid for, it's probably a fake Note20 Ultra.
From what I can tell, the model & build numbers conflict, they're from different models of the Note 20 Ultra, that's why I think it's a fake.
Even the model number doesn't look right, it has a hybrid Chinese/European model number........
KOLIOSIS said:
Sounds like you got what you paid for, it's probably a fake Note20 Ultra.
From what I can tell, the model & build numbers conflict, they're from different models of the Note 20 Ultra, that's why I think it's a fake.
Even the model number doesn't look right, it has a hybrid Chinese/European model number........
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Hi Koliosis,
Yeah, thanks, that has crossed my mind, and that's why I posted those images. If it's fake it's a really good one, but I am aware I could have to chalk that up to experience.
Still, why in the world would a fake have Android 5.1 on it? And it works(-ish)! Isn't that still bizarre? Anything that can be done to force it into Download mode or to flash something with TWRP to at least get an OS from the modern era?
Thanks again...
kbtraveler said:
Hi Koliosis,
Yeah, thanks, that has crossed my mind, and that's why I posted those images. If it's fake it's a really good one, but I am aware I could have to chalk that up to experience.
Still, why in the world would a fake have Android 5.1 on it? And it works(-ish)! Isn't that still bizarre? Anything that can be done to force it into Download mode or to flash something with TWRP to at least get an OS from the modern era?
Thanks again...
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There should be several threads/tutorials here that show how to flash firmware using Odin (& of course,includes how to get into download mode).
Before you try that out,have you tried to use Samsung's Smart Switch program on your PC?
Given the information you've posted,it's difficult to determine which model you have,which makes matters worse since we don't want to make a bad situation worse.
I'd start with the Samsung Smart Switch, hopefully it'll be able to determine the make of your phone & flashing stock firmware should be a breeze. (If it's indeed a genuine Samsung Device).
KOLIOSIS said:
There should be several threads/tutorials here that show how to flash firmware using Odin (& of course,includes how to get into download mode).
Before you try that out,have you tried to use Samsung's Smart Switch program on your PC?
Given the information you've posted,it's difficult to determine which model you have,which makes matters since we don't want to make a bad situation worse.
I'd start with the Samsung Smart Switch, hopefully it'll be able to determine the make of your phone & flashing stock firmware should be a breeze. (If it's indeed a genuine Samsung Device).
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Yes sir, and that's my problem. I've rooted and changed ROMs on a dozen devices or more in the past (thanks to XDA!!), always using Odin. But this phone simply will not go into Download mode at all. Using every key combination I can find I either wind up with the Chinese recovery selections I mentioned or I get that "No command" screen with the Android lying on its back.
So far I've tried these PC apps:
Odin (several versions)
Smart Switch
Kies
FixPPO (https://android.imyfone.com/android-issues/android-no-command-error/)
DroidKit (https://www.imobie.com/android-system-recovery/fix-android-no-command-error.htm)
Some, like Odin and the paid options, require Download mode - which isn't working for me - so those apps can even tell I've plugged a phone into the USB port.
Just to put it out there, when the phone is booted into the OS and attach it to the PC, Windows recognizes it's connected but Smart Switch does not. That supports your point that it may not be a Samsung device, but I wondered if it could also have something to do with Smart Switch coming after 5.1 was old.
I just wondered if somebody who didn't know what they were doing somehow downgraded this phone to Android 5.1 before I accept it as a full loss. Still hoping...
kbtraveler said:
Yes sir, and that's my problem. I've rooted and changed ROMs on a dozen devices or more in the past (thanks to XDA!!), always using Odin. But this phone simply will not go into Download mode at all. Using every key combination I can find I either wind up with the Chinese recovery selections I mentioned or I get that "No command" screen with the Android lying on its back.
So far I've tried these PC apps:
Odin (several versions)
Smart Switch
Kies
FixPPO (https://android.imyfone.com/android-issues/android-no-command-error/)
DroidKit (https://www.imobie.com/android-system-recovery/fix-android-no-command-error.htm)
Some, like Odin and the paid options, require Download mode - which isn't working for me - so those apps can even tell I've plugged a phone into the USB port.
Just to put it out there, when the phone is booted into the OS and attach it to the PC, Windows recognizes it's connected but Smart Switch does not. That supports your point that it may not be a Samsung device, but I wondered if it could also have something to do with Smart Switch coming after 5.1 was old.
I just wondered if somebody who didn't know what they were doing somehow downgraded this phone to Android 5.1 before I accept it as a full loss. Still hoping...
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Makes since you tried Kies (given the stated Android version).
Can you download/sideload any apps that may help identify the phone (& check for Knox 0x0) such as this one:
Phone INFO+ (SAM) - Apps on Google Play
All-in-one INFO and TOOLS for Samsung devices.
play.google.com
AIDA64 - Apps on Google Play
Hardware and software information utility for Android devices
play.google.com
I wish I had more to offer,it's been years since I've dealt w/a rooted Samsung (Note 5).
Hopefully,others will chime in & offer a solution.
FWIW,Definitely following this thread, I'm interested in how things work out, hopefully for the better.
Aah i made an account just to respond to you
i had an iPhone 7 Jet Black replica with android 5.1 once upon a time, same symptoms- 8GB actual storage but will show 128GB when connected to PC
So here are my two cents: These devices won't be recognized by samsung tools as they are not having motherboards made by samsung. I would recommend that you check actual specs from AIDA64 and you will find out which company has made the motherboard or device, mine had strange MediaTek processor though. And hopefully you will find some chinese websites where people are talking about how to flash firmwares in these phones but i recommend not to do that, i had to lose my device as it got bricked.
Well, that's exactly why I come here. I'd never come across that AIDA64 app, and I've attached screen shots. I've never heard of a "Kirin," but sure enough, it's Huawei. Dang it!
@priteshsolanki, hate to hear about your experience. Thanks for the heads up.
So...does Huawei have a Smart Switch equivalent, lol? And by the way, even if I got this working, would Huawei have enough hardware in this bugger to be able to listen in and send data back to Mother China?? I don't know how that kind of thing works...
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Well, that's exactly why I come here. I'd never come across that AIDA64 app, and I've attached screen shots. I've never heard of a "Kirin," but sure enough, it's Huawei. Dang it!
@priteshsolanki, hate to hear about your experience. Thanks for the heads up.
So...does Huawei have a Smart Switch equivalent, lol? And by the way, even if I got this working, would Huawei have enough hardware in this bugger to be able to listen in and send data back to Mother China?? I don't know how that kind of thing works...
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This is strange, i think The AIDA64 app is being fooled here too! To find which company has made it, Its gonna be same experience as finding father of an orphan child which just had permanent memory loss
Its not Kirin, its not huawei.. why?-
So its showing ARMv7 32bit processor, which is definitely not Kirin 1020. because kirin 1020 is a high end processor itself too and uses 5nm technology and Cortex A78 architecture! (While yours is showing stone age 28nm with Cortex A7)
Then there is Platform MT6799. When i look up for that, its again showing totally different company- MediaTek chipset "Helio X30 (MT6799)" which is a deca core processor but what we got here in your details is a Quad core processor.
What we know about your processor:
- its Cortex A7 @1301 MHz and has 28nm manufacturing process
(can't be 5G at any cost)
- From above details it seems like an ancient processor which came out somewhere around 2012, probably thats why its running 5.1.
- The performance is equivalent to high end Android Jellybean device, but definitely not suitable for using in 2022
- The storage and RAM amount shown there are just to fulfill fantasies, dont expect it to be reliable. Its probably a 1 or 2GB Ram with 4 or 8GB storage.
- The software in the phone is really fantastic, i have never thought that a clone can be so perfect that even Apps like AIDA64 will have a hard time finding the facts!
Now coming to the main questions:
1) Can it be upgraded?
90% no based on research i have done in google, this phone is totally non existent for google. for remaining 10% you can expect the rom maker to contact you in DMs after seeing your thread here and offer you an upgrade lol
2) Should you use any file syncing tools with it?
Quick answer: Syncios app is your best bet to sync data between phone and back, but only luck can help you find actual firmware of the device
Slightly long answer: So according to our findings all these data shown in phone settings fake, and syncing apps back in 2011-12 i think its going to give you hard time finding a working one. Android 5.1 in todays time is not something you should be using as daily driver for sure. I suggest you to just treat it like a toy.
About my iPhone 7 back in the day, i bought that one for some 60USD but it was worth it, had some kind of apple music app which never required login but was able to stream any songs for free. so ive used that one out for music only.
I really wish there was a better way to put it, but you can try one last dry hope at needrom website to see if they have any details about this device.
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But there was no Update button. I tapped "Software Info" and the next thing I saw made me read it three times. It showed, "Android version: 5.1."
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Like has been said, sounds like you got a fake, Software info is one of the first things I would have checked before buying, not after you have bought it and then start having issues. Unfortunately you only really have yourself to blame. like is quite often said if the deal "seems to good to be true" there are reasons why.
@samorgs60, you are very right. I've taken many chances like this one on many electronic devices, and to my recollection, this is the first time I got burned. It's kind of like speeding: I don't always obey the speed limit to the letter (number?), so in the past when I got what I believe was an unfair speeding ticket - I was accused of going faster than I was - I dealt with it my accepting it as a balance in the universe for all the times I should have been busted.
@priteshsolanki, what a catch! Wow. That is kinda amazing, and would explain why it has 5.1 on it. I'm actually astonished at the quality of the device in every way, other than the obvious.
So I hate to ask this, but...isn't it true that carriers (I won't mention mine by name here) make offers for value against a new phone if your current phone simply 1) turns on and 2) does not have a cracked screen? That kinda seems to describe what I've got right now. Not interested in misleading on purpose, but what is the likelihood this would qualify as a trade-in? If they took it initially, what's the likelihood of it coming back to haunt me (the carrier contacting me about it not being a Samsung)?
Really appreciate the help, guys!
It sucks that you got a fake. If you paid with PayPal or Credit, I'd file a claim/dispute and try to return for a refund. Carriers usually log the IMEI of trade ins and if it doesn't match the model or is blacklisted in any way, the trade will be denied.