Can't decide between note20 ultra and s20 ultra - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers

Hi good folks!
I want to upgrade from a note8 to a new phone but the more I read the more questions I have. I have chosen to settle for the 20 line because of the card slot and s21 and s22 don't have it. Apart the SD card slot, I need a long sot and great caméras (i travel à lot)
Anyway I have a couple of questions and I hope you'll be able to answer them! Thank you!
1. The note20 ultra has a variable refresh rate. Does it means it can do 1440p at a vrr of 45 to 120hz? And it also means the sot lasts longer?
2. The s20 ultra has a bigger battery and in most of the tests the sot is between 10 and 13 hours. Compared to the note20u at 7 to 10. Is that what you've seen also?
3. Cameras. The main camera picture quality is almost the same but I wanted to talk about selfies. I think the s20u has better selfies than the note. Is that true?
4. A 3z5mm jack would be a blessing but they dont produce it anymore?
Which one would you chose? Or maybe I should go with another phone like the Xperia 1 Mk. 3? Or maybe the v60?

Hello. I have some ansvers on your questions.
1. WlQHD goes only 60Hz, but FHD+ has Adaptive screen rate switching from 1Hz up to 120Hz.
2. No abswer on this question. With my usage Note 20 Ultra is good. I'm happy.
3. Camera on Note 20 Ultra is better then S20 Ultra. And S20 Ultra has focus issue. But if we look wide then there are many scenarios which depends of light, background and situation.
4. No 3.5mm jack. So you have to use usb-c dongle.

Nettwerk said:
Hello. I have some ansvers on your questions.
1. WlQHD goes only 60Hz, but FHD+ has Adaptive screen rate switching from 1Hz up to 120Hz.
2. No abswer on this question. With my usage Note 20 Ultra is good. I'm happy.
3. Camera on Note 20 Ultra is better then S20 Ultra. And S20 Ultra has focus issue. But if we look wide then there are many scenarios which depends of light, background and situation.
4. No 3.5mm jack. So you have to use usb-c dongle.
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1. That's a bummer
2. And how long can your phone last with GPS, BT and LTE connected?
3. Good to know! And what about the selfie camera?
4. No problem.
Overall, would you recommend this phone?

2. With my usage all day. In the evening when I'm going to sleep I put on charge.

latouffe said:
Hi good folks!
I want to upgrade from a note8 to a new phone but the more I read the more questions I have. I have chosen to settle for the 20 line because of the card slot and s21 and s22 don't have it. Apart the SD card slot, I need a long sot and great caméras (i travel à lot)
Anyway I have a couple of questions and I hope you'll be able to answer them! Thank you!
1. The note20 ultra has a variable refresh rate. Does it means it can do 1440p at a vrr of 45 to 120hz? And it also means the sot lasts longer?
2. The s20 ultra has a bigger battery and in most of the tests the sot is between 10 and 13 hours. Compared to the note20u at 7 to 10. Is that what you've seen also?
3. Cameras. The main camera picture quality is almost the same but I wanted to talk about selfies. I think the s20u has better selfies than the note. Is that true?
4. A 3z5mm jack would be a blessing but they dont produce it anymore?
Which one would you chose? Or maybe I should go with another phone like the Xperia 1 Mk. 3? Or maybe the v60?
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Hello friend, I have the Note 20 Ultra (ex990) and I will try to clarify your doubts a bit:
1: The note 20 Ultra has VRR but at 1080p, it varies between 48hz-120hz, the way it works is as simple as if you don't touch the screen for 3s, it lowers the frequency normally to 60hz, from my point of view could have been implemented better...
2: I've had the S20 Ultra for 6 months as well, and I can tell you that I didn't notice any big difference in battery life, the S20U lasts a bit longer in certain situations (idle for example) but the difference isn't noticeable. The battery in general with the 990 ranges between 4h and 6.5h SOT at 120hz, and 5.5h and 8h at 60hz 2K.
3: I would like to say that the rear camera of the Note 20U seems much better to me because they fixed the problems that the S20U had, the selfie camera is definitely better in the S20U, but both are so good that it should not be a determining aspect.
4: The 3.5mm connector is doomed to disappear but Samsung includes a 3.5mm to USB-C adapter, it is a useful solution if you want to continue using your wired headphones, it is also worth noting that in Europe it includes very good quality AKG headphones in the box (USB-C).

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Refresh rate on oppo find x2 pro

I am deciding this phone between s20ultra. I have noticed a problem on oppo find x2 pro which is the refresh rate on this phone ain't running on 120hz constantly. Which app can run 120hz constantly? I uses youtube instagram chrome facebook reddit etc
Do they support 120hz refresh rate? I have tried the display unit, youtube seems laggy while scrolling even comparing with 60hz display. Have it been fixed? Thank you.
Pointer556 said:
I am deciding this phone between s20ultra. I have noticed a problem on oppo find x2 pro which is the refresh rate on this phone ain't running on 120hz constantly. Which app can run 120hz constantly? I uses youtube instagram chrome facebook reddit etc
Do they support 120hz refresh rate? I have tried the display unit, youtube seems laggy while scrolling even comparing with 60hz display. Have it been fixed? Thank you.
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I assume you've actually enabled the feature to have 120hz running at all times instead of the default "auto switch" setting?
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I assume you've actually enabled the feature to have 120hz running at all times instead of the default "auto switch" setting?
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Yes but seems not helping any which is quite disappointing for me with that gorgeous display which is better in my eyes compare with s20ultra but cannot be benefited from the high refresh rate while scrolling.
Unsure of the issue you encountered , had my oppo Friday and all above apps you mention work fine 120hz (not tried Reddit)
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Unsure of the issue you encountered , had my oppo Friday and all above apps you mention work fine 120hz (not tried Reddit)
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What version is it? Do you feel it is not smooth on youtube while scrolling compare with S20 ultra?
Pointer556 said:
What version is it? Do you feel it is not smooth on youtube while scrolling compare with S20 ultra?
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Smooth as butter , re version ?
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Smooth as butter , re version ?
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I have tried the display models, which the display may not have been update the system. I am going to try it again later. Furthermore , do you feel like the speakers' vocals are a bit muffled and not as loud as the competitors?
I can only comment / compare against my previous S20+ but for me the speakers are much better in this phone and provide more clarity. Samsung's I found were quite tinny maybe not as loud either, the oppos were also more balanced.
This phone is hands down 100 times better then the "Can't Focus On a Galaxy S20 Ultra". Even without Qi charging, which would have made this the phone of year IMO, it runs circles around the Ultra. Here's why:
1. Auto focus is super fast and accurate. Way better camera setup than S20 Ultra. 108MP? Really? You can't focus using it and the 100x zoom is a joke. The pictures and video out of this phone are legit.
2. Super VOOC charging. You won't miss Qi wireless charging. Super charging or any other charging. All you need know is 100% in 15 minutes. You can see it go up a percentage basically every 10 seconds or so. Plugging in never felt so good.
3. Dual SIM that works and is best in class in compatiablity to essentially ever band used globally. I mean this thing even works on Verizon in the US. Get the Thailand or Malaysia version CPH2025 with dual SIM, 512 GB and 12GB RAM. Still cheaper than the Ultra.
4. 120 GHz refresh and QHD at the same time. Like others said, it works and is easy to setup.
5. It's not a Samsung. Enough said.
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This phone is hands down 100 times better then the "Can't Focus On a Galaxy S20 Ultra". Even without Qi charging, which would have made this the phone of year IMO, it runs circles around the Ultra. Here's why:
1. Auto focus is super fast and accurate. Way better camera setup than S20 Ultra. 108MP? Really? You can't focus using it and the 100x zoom is a joke. The pictures and video out of this phone are legit.
2. Super VOOC charging. You won't miss Qi wireless charging. Super charging or any other charging. All you need know is 100% in 15 minutes. You can see it go up a percentage basically every 10 seconds or so. Plugging in never felt so good.
3. Dual SIM that works and is best in class in compatiablity to essentially ever band used globally. I mean this thing even works on Verizon in the US. Get the Thailand or Malaysia version CPH2025 with dual SIM, 512 GB and 12GB RAM. Still cheaper than the Ultra.
4. 120 GHz refresh and QHD at the same time. Like others said, it works and is easy to setup.
5. It's not a Samsung. Enough said.
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Agree with most of that except the zoom at 10x is no where near as good as the ultra. Also after updates there's no issues with autofocus at all now literally none. Just as fast as my note 10, and with my snapdragon s20 ultra I get literally double the battery life of the Oppo. I'd be getting 8hrs SOT in 120hz. With 1080p and 120 im like to get just over 5hrs which is pretty average.
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tonnytech said:
I can only comment / compare against my previous S20+ but for me the speakers are much better in this phone and provide more clarity. Samsung's I found were quite tinny maybe not as loud either, the oppos were also more balanced.
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S20 ultra speakers are definitely louder having both in front of me but the oppos are wider and clearer.
Yes and the phone isn't a brick in your pocket and you can literally top it off in like 10 mins or less at any point. Whether I finish the day with 15% or 30% makes no difference in my use. Neither phone is a 2 day phone. I can get all day performance @ QHD & 120HZ with my oppo. I've never had a problem even on a heavy use day with it. The fact that I can add 10% in literally minutes is great. I've never liked how Samsung phones take pictures. I've had plenty and tried to like them but really can't ever settle. I'd take an iPhone over a Samsung. That my own hang up I guess. I like my phone now. Doesn't mean I won't try something later. Vivo X50 Pro + looks promising especially if it comes out for the global market. Maybe I'll look at the Note 20 Ultra. It has some promise based on leaks. But really, it will probably just be more Samsung heartache
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Yes and the phone isn't a brick in your pocket and you can literally top it off in like 10 mins or less at any point. Whether I finish the day with 15% or 30% makes no difference in my use. Neither phone is a 2 day phone. I can get all day performance @ QHD & 120HZ with my oppo. I've never had a problem even on a heavy use day with it. The fact that I can add 10% in literally minutes is great. I've never liked how Samsung phones take pictures. I've had plenty and tried to like them but really can't ever settle. I'd take an iPhone over a Samsung. That my own hang up I guess. I like my phone now. Doesn't mean I won't try something later. Vivo X50 Pro + looks promising especially if it comes out for the global market. Maybe I'll look at the Note 20 Ultra. It has some promise based on leaks. But really, it will probably just be more Samsung heartache
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Find it hard to believe you get all day 120hz and QHD with the Oppo.. I haven't got close
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Smooth as butter , re version ?
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pafc66 said:
Agree with most of that except the zoom at 10x is no where near as good as the ultra. Also after updates there's no issues with autofocus at all now literally none. Just as fast as my note 10, and with my snapdragon s20 ultra I get literally double the battery life of the Oppo. I'd be getting 8hrs SOT in 120hz. With 1080p and 120 im like to get just over 5hrs which is pretty average.
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S20 ultra speakers are definitely louder having both in front of me but the oppos are wider and clearer.
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How about the immersive experience? I have heard that s20ultra got an update on dolby atmos, do you feel like it has improved? Before switching on the dolby atmos, s20ultra definitely sounds horrible for me. But after switching on, oppo's is a no match as s20 ultra gives a better immersive experience for me but with less bass. But as I have mentioned I have only tried both in the stores which is kind of a noisy environment with both phones not on the most update firmware. Have things improved on oppo find x2pro and s20ultra after several updates?
I have tried the display model. Youtube app can't use 120hz but the web version of youtube through chrome can. The speaker of oppo is better as it doesn't sounds annoying in the highs in the cinema mode of dolby atmos.
Pointer556 said:
I have tried the display model. Youtube app can't use 120hz but the web version of youtube through chrome can. The speaker of oppo is better as it doesn't sounds annoying in the highs in the cinema mode of dolby atmos.
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Both the app and vanguard run it fine , can't comment why store doesn't but as owner in telling you it's good .
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Both the app and vanguard run it fine , can't comment why store doesn't but as owner in telling you it's good .
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Are you using the chinese version or the global variant?
tonnytech said:
Both the app and vanguard run it fine , can't comment why store doesn't but as owner in telling you it's good .
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Are you using the chinese version or the global variant?
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UK version , global.
It sounds to me you have your sights on the ultra.
For me in UK I tried the plus as mentioned but the exynos chip was useless I had it throttling within 7 minutes of YouTube dropping to 30fps which was a hard pull to swallow.
This and the green tint ... Then finding out refresh rate was he restricted made me return it. If it was a Snapdragon I might have kept it but honestly for me the oppo screen is better , sound is also better , software also and design.
I think the battery probably lasted longer on the S20 but the oppo has warp charge so not to bothered at the moment.
Camera I couldn't comment both seem good.
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UK version , global.
It sounds to me you have your sights on the ultra.
For me in UK I tried the plus as mentioned but the exynos chip was useless I had it throttling within 7 minutes of YouTube dropping to 30fps which was a hard pull to swallow.
This and the green tint ... Then finding out refresh rate was he restricted made me return it. If it was a Snapdragon I might have kept it but honestly for me the oppo screen is better , sound is also better , software also and design.
I think the battery probably lasted longer on the S20 but the oppo has warp charge so not to bothered at the moment.
Camera I couldn't comment both seem good.
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Actually after my hands on today, I am leaning towards oppo's more, it is just a hurdle for me to jump over to buy oppo instead of samsung. In my region it is sd chip which also makes me undecisive. I am also worried about the software update frequency of oppo after the first half of the year.
I jumped from a Note 10+ to the Find X2 Pro, don't regret it at all, ColorOS is less feature packed but almost feels minimalistic to me which is perfect because the whole phone experience just feels like lightning, not the tiniest hiccup
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Also for those worried about updates the Find X2 Pro is officially on the Android Enterprise Recommended list which guarantees 90 day security patches for 3 years & at least major OS update
https://androidenterprisepartners.withgoogle.com/device/#!/M9WwEAj545YkpTeQY9Ep

Question Who switched from S21U to S22U?

Hello
Having an S21U exynos for a year now I am thinking to swap it with a S22U snapdragon (yes we are getting Snapdragon in Middle East at last)
Who "upgraded" from S21 Ultra to S22 Ultra?
Do you regret it?
-Do you feel the screen is bigger and better?
-Is it true the speakers are bad? (Flossy Carter review)
-The battery is as good as the s21 ultra or worst?
-Anyone tried a third party 45w charger? Would it be faster than the Samsung one?
-Can you finally enlarge the statusbar to get a bigger clock font?
I actually did the upgrade basically because the pre-order incentives made it close to a 1:1 swap for me and I wanted to have a stylus / note experience.
To give you some replies to your direct questions:
Don't regret it.
Screen is basically the same.
Speakers seem fine, but I don't use them very loudly, would use another media device or headphones for that.
Battery seems equal, but I'm not a heavy gamer where the power hungry tendencies of the chip may be felt.
Haven't tried 45W fast charge, I use slow charge overnight and don't need to top off during the day .
Have never thought to enlarge font on status bar, but I would imagine that would not be any ability put into a specific phone model. You'd be looking for Goodlock module or some other 3rd party app to do so.
Bottom line, I'm loving the phone, but I loved my s21 ultra too. If I had to pay a lot to upgrade I would not have - most upgrades are negligible and both phones are amazingly capable.
Note - had SD version of s21 Ultra, have SD version of s22 Ultra. Not sure if Exynos changes the equation for you at all.
It is not a justified jump, because I think s21u is a complete phone. S22 is slight better in ever aspect + S pen but is worst in ergonomics.
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Hello
Having an S21U exynos for a year now I am thinking to swap it with a S22U snapdragon (yes we are getting Snapdragon in Middle East at last)
Who "upgraded" from S21 Ultra to S22 Ultra?
Do you regret it?
-Do you feel the screen is bigger and better?
-Is it true the speakers are bad? (Flossy Carter review)
-The battery is as good as the s21 ultra or worst?
-Anyone tried a third party 45w charger? Would it be faster than the Samsung one?
-Can you finally enlarge the statusbar to get a bigger clock font?
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I have both Snapdragon US variantrs
-bigger better? Better YES, Bigger, a bit
-speakers are great and both sound identical and good
-battery is better than my s21u
-I have a baseus 65w gan2 pro and it works great!
-not sure with the last part tho
I have used both Snapdragon variants. The S21 Ultra has better speakers, is narrower to hold, and has a stronger vibrate motor. Other than that the S22 Ultra is the same.
They're not the same phone. S22U is basically a note ultra.
Camera is better, mainly video glitching with AF hunting is fixed. It's the closest to iphone 13 Pro max I've seen.
Speakers don't sound as rich, but Apple wins in this department. Their speakers are like the HTC One M7 days. Battery life is brutal at first but once things settle in it's acceptable. No 13 Pro Max (is any phone even close LOL) but workable. S-pen is back, Note users rejoice! Biggest of all is e-sim actually works out of the box with the unlocked version in the USA!
I went from S21U to Google Pixel 6 Pro (meh) and now S22U, and I love it. Selling my S21U and Google 6 Pro. The camera on the S22U is a BEAST. The 1TB storage is incredible. The speed is great and I have zero regrets. Remember: soooooo many people are negative online, believe about 5% of what most people say.
I did. I dont regret it at all.
Better all around camera, especially low light pics and vids, as well as zoom past 10x. Way less lens flare too.
Battery seems almost the same, possibly a lil better.
Screen is brighter and better. My brother is still using his S21U, we put them side to side to compare. Yes, screen feels bigger/larger. S Pen is great!
Thanks everyone
So the snapdragon version doesn't suffer from the lags some people reported elsewhere?
About the speakers, people who found them not as good as the s21u, did you mean the sound quality or loudness?
I didn't root my s21u but I would for my s22u if it needs some sound mods
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Thanks everyone
So the snapdragon version doesn't suffer from the lags some people reported elsewhere?
About the speakers, people who found them not as good as the s21u, did you mean the sound quality or loudness?
I didn't root my s21u but I would for my s22u if it needs some sound mods
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I used the S21U for quite some time when it came out and now I[m on S22U, no regrets, like the form factor and design and SnapDragon is just sweet, no lags or issues on my part in more than a month. Sound is really good but then again, I'm mostly on headphones
Did they fix the built in earpiece speaker when using the phone to the ear and on a call it would exhibit distorted output if HD calling was not being used on the s21u.

Question Upgrading S20+ 4G (Exynos) to S22U 5G (Exynos)

Hello!
I have bought my S20+ 2 years ago and I'm thinking about upgrading to the S22 Ultra, both being Exynos variants. I usually keep my phone 2 years, but unfortunately when I bought my S20+ 4G I didn't think at the time that 5G was going to be deployed this quickly so I didn't pay extra for it.
So I'm looking for a 5G phone I could use for social media and media consumption (shows, films, YouTube), as the display is apparently good, and has good cameras. This time I'll try to go for 3 years with it, since we'll get software updates for longer.
As of today, how's the battery life on the Ultra Exynos? I've heard that some recent update improved it quite a lot. I don't play games at all on mobile or do some crazy video editing stuff, if that helps.
So, do you think it'll be a decent upgrade? Although I've never used an S-Pen, I'm confident I'll enjoy it. I'm not looking for other recommendations.
I used a s20 and upgraded to s21 ultra and now the s22 ultra. I really enjoy the phone. Everything feels and look better than the s20. For me it is a definite upgrade from the s20 to s22. The streaming stuff looks great on the display. The only issue I have is the battery life could be better. It's not bad, but not great. Heavy use I get a day of battery life, moderate use 1.5 days...sot between 4 to 6 hours...depending on usage. Battery lasts 24 to 36 hours...sound is basically same loudness as s21 and s20...quality of sounda bit better. I know some people have some issues with exonys...I have a snapdragon. There was some updates that took away a lot off the bugs. Camera and video is good...now light is a big improvement over the s20...my only real issue is fhd 60 fps videos appear very soft. 4k looks great
I would echo @termdj experience about general feel of s22u
Interesting, thanks for sharing. Would you consider the battery to be better than the S20+? I don't know if battery-wise there's a big difference between SD and Exynos.
Compared to the s20 it is better. With the same usage I got 3 to 4 hours sot and the battery lasted max 24 hours on moderate use on the s20.

Question First Pixel 7 Pro?

Looking to purchase 7 Pro had samsung , oneplus , xioami . At moment im on s21 Ultra which i have had since release don't know whether wait for 23 ultra or pick up 7 Pro. main thing for me is battery life . on my s21 ultra i would get day and half with 6hrs s.o.t .
I'd say wait for the s23.
As much as I *hate* Samsung, the S23 Ultra will almost surely have better battery life.
I don't understand all the battery hate. I make it through the day easily with usually 50% left. It's all user dependent I guess or there's a shatload of bad batteries floating around. Just switch off the majority of not needed Google wizardry and don't game non stop and your good to go.
I'd say I love Samsung hardware but I'm not huge fan of OneUI. If Samsung release ever like Google Play edition of Galaxy S22 Ultra, Note design then it will be best device for long term.
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I don't understand all the battery hate. I make it through the day easily with usually 50% left. It's all user dependent I guess or there's a shatload of bad batteries floating around. Just switch off the majority of not needed Google wizardry and don't game non stop and your good to go.
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The battery hate is because there are so many devices that do so much better. Also sometimes the phone just decides to start using way more battery than previous trends doing the same things it was doing before.
Sure but it's a mixed bag with different experiences per user. My psp7 runs about 50% longer than my Note 20 ultra with the same kind of usage.
P7P stock kernel doesn't seem to be very good in delivering/managing power usage. Sometimes the device heat up simply because i run YT Music. But some other days, it survives hours of screen time morning to night. I always check what run on BG when the device heat up, and it's nothing, really, it just that the device decide to run on higher freq for no good reason.
If you bought this phone, one thing you might want to do is using custom Kernel. I didn't do so because apparently i gonna need to wipe my phone to do first kernel flash. Which is a big turn off.
If you dont feel comfy about flashing and elses, i'd say, wait for S23 or Xiaomi 13 Pro
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P7P stock kernel doesn't seem to be very good in delivering/managing power usage. Sometimes the device heat up simply because i run YT Music. But some other days, it survives hours of screen time morning to night. I always check what run on BG when the device heat up, and it's nothing, really, it just that the device decide to run on higher freq for no good reason.
If you bought this phone, one thing you might want to do is using custom Kernel. I didn't do so because apparently i gonna need to wipe my phone to do first kernel flash. Which is a big turn off.
If you dont feel comfy about flashing and elses, i'd say, wait for S23 or Xiaomi 13 Pro
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This is a fact! With the stock Kernel, I was using CPU Mintor daily to check my temps which typically ran above 30 C. Usually in the mid-30's. Over 40 when charging.
With the Kirasakura I usually run about 26-28 C.
EtherealRemnant said:
As much as I *hate* Samsung, the S23 Ultra will almost surely have better battery life.
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I wouldn't bet on it , personally. My P7P has considerably better battery life than my brothers S22 Ultra (UK Exynos model). It also has better battery life than my old S21 Ultra had, and the S21 Ultra is known to have better battery life than the S22 Ultra.
Unless the upcoming S23 Ultra brings something new to the table to improve the battery life over the previous two generations, I can see it being about the same.
The question for me shouldn't be about battery life, which overall on most flagships now is relatively similar, rather how happy are you with Sumsung's UI and how important an S-Pen is, which will certainly be included again. Camera will be a little better than the P7P (especially with zoom). I've already gone on record that the P7P isn't worth an upgrade from the S21 Ultra and if mine hadn't been broken and unrepairable I would still have it.
Stick with the S21 Ultra would be my advice and see if the S23 Ultra bring something new. Unless you want Android in its vanilla form, in which case the P7P is definitely worth a look, especially given its about 25% cheaper than a Samsung flagship.
pro4ever said:
Looking to purchase 7 Pro had samsung , oneplus , xioami . At moment im on s21 Ultra which i have had since release don't know whether wait for 23 ultra or pick up 7 Pro. main thing for me is battery life . on my s21 ultra i would get day and half with 6hrs s.o.t .
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Stay away from it for now!I just purchased one myself,and sent it back because it overheats like crazy!Don't get me wrong,the performance is there but that face burning battery was enough for me...lol
Beefheart said:
I wouldn't bet on it , personally. My P7P has considerably better battery life than my brothers S22 Ultra (UK Exynos model). It also has better battery life than my old S21 Ultra had, and the S21 Ultra is known to have better battery life than the S22 Ultra.
Unless the upcoming S23 Ultra brings something new to the table to improve the battery life over the previous two generations, I can see it being about the same.
The question for me shouldn't be about battery life, which overall on most flagships now is relatively similar, rather how happy are you with Sumsung's UI and how important an S-Pen is, which will certainly be included again. Camera will be a little better than the P7P (especially with zoom). I've already gone on record that the P7P isn't worth an upgrade from the S21 Ultra and if mine hadn't been broken and unrepairable I would still have it.
Stick with the S21 Ultra would be my advice and see if the S23 Ultra bring something new. Unless you want Android in its vanilla form, in which case the P7P is definitely worth a look, especially given its about 25% cheaper than a Samsung flagship.
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Well the S23 Ultra is using Snapdragon chips worldwide and the TSMC-produced 8 Gen 2 is looking like an efficiency beast. I hear you on the Samsung UI and I'm also not too excited to lose root but the S23 Ultra could be a great device to jump to if people are tired of being tied to the charger with the Pixel (both due to the slow charging speed and the poor battery endurance on mobile data, particularly 5G). Samsung also always saves the best displays for themselves.
I have a S22 plus and just got the Pixel 7 Pro on sale.
Obviously the Ultra is a lot different than the plus. I have no need for a spen on a phone. I am not a fan of curved screens either but I took a gamble because of the sale price and I really like vanilla android.
The text to speech is pretty amazing. The screen is also nicer than the S22 plus stuck at 1080p.
Battery life right out the box and installing and updating and syncing seems pretty good so far. Definitely better than my S22 plus.
I think the big difference is cost. The Ultra even with a recent trade in is almost as expensive as this device is on sale with no trade. That is a pretty significant factor to me.
The s23 Ultra will be a better phone no doubt. Samsung has the hardware on lock and the new 8 gen 2 even on Samsung fab should be a pretty significant upgrade.
However Google works magic with Pixel phones and slower processors so I don't think there will be a big difference in day to day use.
It really depends what you prioritize and like best. If you like OneUI and the absolute best hardware then hands down get the Samsung. Samsung Galaxy devices are some of the best and if the S22 plus had quad hd I might say get that instead but with the better screen and bigger battery the Ultra is best.
However if you like Google services, great AI features, decent camera, fast updates and good battery life and cost is a factor then the Pixel is a really great choice.
Having used both the S21 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, the S21 Ultra has both better battery life and performance overall. The only reasons to switch would be for the cleaner software experience, better camera, and slightly smaller size. I agree, wait for the S23 Ultra.
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Having used both the S21 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, the S21 Ultra has both better battery life and performance overall. The only reasons to switch would be for the cleaner software experience, better camera, and slightly smaller size. I agree, wait for the S23 Ultra.
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Is that S21 Ultra on Exynos or Snapdragon? For me in the UK on Exynos, the S21 Ultra absolutely did not have superior battery life to what I get on the P7P. And various reports I saw at the time said that, whilst the Snapdragon S21 Ultra was the better phone for performance, for battery life the Exynos was better. Although I can't confirm as I never had the SD variant.
The Snapdragon S21 Ultra perhaps has the best battery life of any mainstream Android device, closely followed by the S22 Ultra then the Pixel 7 Pro. It could be that the S22 Ultra being on Verizon and the S21 Ultra being on T-Mobile played a role. The 7 Pro is a good improvement over the 6 Pro battery wise.

Question Swapping my S22U to Pixel 7 Pro, final decision

We are a month before the s23u unveiling , I can still sell my s22u at 800ish $ but in a month it will start to loose resale value, so I am very tempted to switch to the Pixel 7 Pro
After a whole year with the s21u and 8 months with the s22u, I am bored and annoyed by samsung oneui, so I don't see myself another year with it.
The Oneplus 11 is just...average with a meh 2x zoom and nothing new as added value in the software and betting on a 11 Ultra is like betting on the lotery.
Xiaomi you will say? Well we don't have the Pro or Ultra series in my country (Lebanon) only the cheap ones and the UI is not sexy
The Pixel 7 Pro in another hand looks like a winner to me and is available in regular shops as we can't buy it online from Google, it's 1020$ for the 256gb model.
So here's the conclusion I got from reading reviews and videos, if I am wrong please let me know, or if you have additional point to add from your experience:
Advantages Pixel 7 Pro over the S22U:
-Rounded corners, more ergonomic
-Lighter by 17gm (I am pretty sure you can feel them on a smartphone) and 20gm with a s23u
-Rootable without the culprit of knox
-More responsive UI , what I HATE with samsung UI for the last 6 years is that you can't open anything as log as there is a micro scrolling animation, you end up tapping twice or 3 time to open an app or settings
-5x optical zoom is more useful than 10x in everyday life, at least for me, and the 2x hybrid zoom looks pretty sharp
-Speakers are louder and crisper
-Several new AI stuff, some gimmicky and other useful
-Tap tap on the back to launch an app
What I will loose:
-The slightly bigger screen size
-Shortcuts in the lockscreen
-Faster charging time, it takes about 50 mins to recharge from 30 to 100% on my s22u, how long your P7P takes?
-2 nano sim cards tray. I will have to transform my actual line to esim to let a place for a temporary sim card when traveling with the P7P
My questions:
-Can you use tap on the back while the screen is off, sort of replacing the missing shortcuts in the lockscreen? I use the torch light everyday
-Can you simply install a third party lockscreen or you will need a custom rom?
-Actual custom roms have the new AI stuff introduced on the P7 series?
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My questions:
-Can you use tap on the back while the screen is off, sort of replacing the missing shortcuts in the lockscreen? I use the torch light everyday
-Can you simply install a third party lockscreen or you will need a custom rom?
-Actual custom roms have the new AI stuff introduced on the P7 series?
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Yes
There is really no need for custom ROMS anymore
See above
Having used both the S22 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, I'd wait for the S23 Ultra, or even the Pixel 8 Pro. The S22 Ultra is simply the superior phone. The screen is way better (more vibrant, bright, and crisp), the scrolling is smoother (see the P7P scrolling issue), the battery life, charging speeds are better, and the reception / data speeds are better. Heck, using a series of mods, one can make the S22U UI look 95% like the Pixel UI without root.
Guyinlaca said:
Having used both the S22 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, I'd wait for the S23 Ultra, or even the Pixel 8 Pro. The S22 Ultra is simply the superior phone. The screen is way better (more vibrant, bright, and crisp), the scrolling is smoother (see the P7P scrolling issue), the battery life, charging speeds are better, and the reception / data speeds are better. Heck, using a series of mods, one can make the S22U UI look 95% like the Pixel UI without root.
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I agree. I've had both the S22 Ultra since launch. I could get a Pixel 7 Pro through work for cheap (about <$200), and I've been using it since October. It's not a bad phone by any means, but overall I prefer the S22 Ultra. Better build quality, better screen, better battery life, better performance. Better, smoother overall experience (and I don't even use the stylus at all). I do like the faster shutter time of the P7P camera, though, so it's easier to capture moving objects.
I have deliberately hung on to my S22 Ultra. Samsung's Unpacked event is scheduled for February 1, when they will undoubtedly announce their S23 series. Assuming they will have similar trade-in deals as with the S22 Ultra last year (I ended up paying about $200 for my S22 Ultra with a trade-in of my S21 Ultra, with free $100 accessory credit to boot), I'm planning to take advantage of that and then sell my Pixel 7 Pro. I should easily come out ahead with that, with money left in my pocket. And even if I decide to keep my Pixel Pro 7, I can sell a brand-new S23 Ultra for a lot more than what I can get for my current S22 Ultra. Last year you got a $1,000 trade-in credit for the previous year's S21 Ultra. I would expect it should be similar this year, which should bring down the price for the S23 Ultra with S22 Ultra trade-in to $300 or so. And they might even throw in other incentives, such as accessory credit or a free watch.
You mention you could sell your S22 Ultra for $800 or so today. I highly doubt that. I'd be happy to get $600 for it, particularly with all the S22 Ultra discounts out there now to clear stock before the S23 Ultra launch.
Either way, it's a win-win for me, and I'll end up with a couple of hundred dollars in my pocket.
Good luck!
--Ron
pixel 7 pro best decission overALL
I am not in the US to get the good prices of the samsung trade in and besides I am tired of sammy UI, I don't see myself using a Samsung another year.
Though the screen image quality and charging time are the only 2 things that are not letting me swap my s22u with the Pixel easily.
I can cope with the slower charging time but what about the screen that you like it much more than the 7 Pro ? Is it because it's more saturated ? I found the vivid mode too vivid and the normal one too bleach , that's why I use the Cinema mode which is hidden and can't be selected but by an adb command, this mode made the saturation right in the middle between normal and vivid, is the Pixel 7 Pro somehow just less saturated than the S22U vivid mode?

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