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I recently upgraded to WM6 ROM, "Jwrightmcps Crossbow ROM Update 2.02.02 WWE", and all went well.
But then at 40% battery my phone died... and this is very similar to a problem I used to had in WM5.
Can anyone tell me which WM6 ROM doesnt cause the battery problem?
For the record, I don't think either my phone or PDA is damaged. The last time I had this problem, I went back to the service center (several times I might add), and they replaced everything eventually (both PDA and Battery). Since then it has worked fine (for about 6mths+), until I flashed to the WM6 ROM.
**** man, I hope this has not damaged my device. Out of warranty already.
I had a similar problem and also initially didn't beleive it could be the battery, but guess what -- getting a new battery solved almost all problems I had including the phone dying at 40% or above. So it might be worth a try...
IT"S YOUR BATTERY
Just trust me
the battery 'dies' after like 6 to 12 months. It just goes bad in a week.
Mine went out on like 20%, then a week later on 54%
replacing it fixes it.
mine crashes over 20%.... the battery it's new
I had same problem with battery,then I buy new battery from ebay, and then the battery status was OK it goes from 100- 4% with warning and everything. But the problem was that battery last only a couple of hours, even aftzer a few days nothing change I must have charger with me all the time.
Then I search the forum and found someons solution, that works for me too.
Just charge the battery full take the cable out and put it in again a couple of times so the battery is realy full charged, the put the device in bootloader mode by pressing Power + Light + Reset, which brings up an un-backlit screen with "Serial" at the top, and "v0.XX" at the bottom. And then just put your device somewhere and dont touch it until it died that coul be the all day. Anyway next day I put the charger in and again didnt touc for all day. And my problems are gone, the battery since then last fortwo or three days if I dont use it much.
Hope that will help somebody
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
Mine dies at 35% with wm6 and wm5 and my old battery, but never dies with my new battery.
Use Radio 1.15
My battery life increased by 200% just by upgrading to this radio ROM.
same here
i m also sufrer of same problem. now after this forum i m confused
Here is the simple fact of the matter:
Batteries are EXTREMELY complicated pieces of equipment
They often give false readings because the chemical reaction that creates the electricity is easily affected by heat\age\use\etc. Also, the electronics that measure the temperature are based on the false assumption that the battery drains in a predictable way down to the same level.
Your battery draining quicker\slower and dying when it says it has charge may be because of the ROM. However, this is HIGHLY unlikely. What is most likely the cause is external factors (eg heat, number of programs running, etc) or that the battery has "died" or become unreliable.
Recommendation: Try different batteries, and remember that batteries have a chemical reaction, before posting here
I don't know... I started having problems as well just after a ROM upgrade... but it was an official ROM upgrade. I start thinking this has something to do with the upgrade process, like some setting being "wiped out" during the upgrade and the battery going "out of sync" with the device, reporting the wrong battery level...
But, more likely, this is just a psycological effect, you install the new rom and then start playing a lot with the device to find the improvements, and you begin noticing the problem for the first time!
My relatively new I-mate JasJar also started dying when the battery level reached 40% the day i flashed WM6.
i posted here, trying to explain that it was perfectly alright 2 days back, prior to WM6.. pointless to say, everyone still said it was the battery 100%
well.. i got a new battery.. and it did indeed solve the problem.
but guess what.
i flashed WM5 back, and both batteries work fine there.
not sure what the heck is going on here.. but i'm certain there are two fixes:
- flash WM5 back on.
- get a new battery and stay with WM6
astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
You cannot judge the battery is old or new by just months.
This older version of Universal battery, it counts by number of time charged I think, inserting in USB for a sync and remove would probably counted as 1 charge.
I now do not sync using those working condition battery, I change to my dead battery for sync purpose.
As I sync only contacts, now Dotfred has a tool and now I hardly use sync anymore.
By the way, there is one guy in this same forum start another thread without reading this (closest info) or all other previous threads.
People like this deserved to be flamed, but I didnt.
IMHO WM6 uses and drains the battery different then WM5
My experience is that everyone that has problems with their device dying just switched to WM6. It has nothing to do with the WM6 itself, it's just that WM6 is more 'sensitive' to a low battery output then WM5. So if you switch back to WM5 it looks like it might 'solve' your problem but in the end the battery will die, it'll just take a little bit longer before WM5 appears to have problems.
You'll postpone the problem for a little while but it's not a fix
Just my 2 cents
CWKJ said:
I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
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Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
astraman said:
Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
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I have 3 original batteries.
In principle, good battery can goes to perfect 0%.
First battery started half dead (that is phone is dead 30%) after upgrade from WM5 AKU1 to WM5 AKU2 happen to be around 6 months after I start using the phone, I thought it was the problem with WM5 AKU2 ROM. My usage pattern of this battery is that I charge anytime I wish with Power charger and also during sync. This battery is still with me now after 1 year I have encounter the problem. The dead % grow (no change of ROM) until now it is around 100%, that is phone is dead just before it goes to 99%.
Second battery was bought the same time my first battery has problem, 1 year passed. Usage pattern are, never use this battery for sync or short connections to PC USB, never charge my battery until it is 0% (always possible) or less than 5%, never upgrade ROM using this battery. Always charge to LED turns GREEN & always sync & upgrade ROM with the dead stuck at 100% battery. 1 year has gone, the second is still able to reach 0% till now with battery last average 1 to 3 days, normally 2 days & sometimes 4 days depends on usage pattern.
Third battery, claim by vendor that some electronics is modified compared to the those bought last year. Charged this battery, use a few time to check if it is an ok battery, need to do this as I have ever bought brand new dead battery last year. After confirmed it is a good battery, I continue using the second battery and third battery always carry along as backup in case I used up the second battery.
Hope my usage pattern can help some of you to have optimal use of the battery and do not let the manufacturer earn extra money due to the problem in the old version of the battery. Anyway, this original battery will be discontinued soon due to end of life of this product. Guess I will have to look forward of getting imitations when my second & third battery is gone or maybe when my phone is gone too.
Tadeusz said:
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
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uhh...not true...
try to flash you phone at 50% charge...when you boot your battery will still be at 50%
astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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Not so Dears
i have what the american will say as 20/20 and the rst of the world will say as 6\6 corrected vision.
i can read normal 12 pt text pretty well..
and apart from that what you claim is...well NOT TRUE
Hello friends ,
It have been 2 weeks since i got my universal (o2 xda exec) , I have tried most of the WM6 roms here , but most of them dont give good battery life..
Anybody know which is the best ROM with Best battery life? or any tips how to improve the battery life?
I usually read books and rarely hear music and i have 4 apps installed and i find the battery drain fast within 3.5hours. For this reason i turned off the phone and wifi. My uni is a new one , i dont want to have the charger all the time with myself.. I go places , do please help me..
Thanks in advance
battery life is awfull and unpredictable
I have the same problem. I use the same crossbow 2.12.08 version
with update radio ( from 1.15 ) to 1.18
I have a larger battery 3200 mAh, but th ebattery life is never more than one day. Though the battery is brandnew...
Worse is that when charging sometimes it shows 100% but most of the time this drops within a few minutes ( 2-4 ) to 97%
Then after 1-2 hours it is on 60% while usage is minimal. no WLAN, no BT
Also sometimes for some reason the battery is very warm ( during loading ).
When disconnected it turns out the universal is almost empty. Tried to disconnect the battery and leave it outside for 5 minutes then back in. but nithing seems to really improve. Also without memory card the results are more or less the same. Also always I close the applications fully.
Maybe someone can tell me what are the possible reasons...? Is is the software. Does it not see the actual charge correctly? Or is there a "hidden"battery user. Read the article about leds and all that, but this is way out of that league.
Rgds
I think that your battery is no good. My battery is 2 years old, it's the original battery 1650mAh and the battery life is 2.5 hours with WiFi enabled (internet navigation via WiFi)
If you want your battery to last longer, check the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalSmallBattery
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalBatteryIssue
openone said:
I usually read books and rarely hear music and i have 4 apps installed and i find the battery drain fast within 3.5hours.
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Before blaming ROMs check the device with another battery. I had the same problem too, checked several ROMs and even downgraded to WM5 and at the end it appeared that my battery simply dies, while my other battery showed far better lifetime.
You are definitely having a battery issue rather than ROM. I am using 2.1.2.08 also and can get 3 days of normal mixed use from my original 1620mah battery.
Why not try "resetting" the battery, as discussed in previous forums, I for one can testify to it's success.
Hello there,
does anyone know if there is a possibility of inserting a stronger battery into the S710? The current one (factory, I guess, since I've never replaced it) is 1050 mAh. I could realy do with a longer battery life. But, can't we all!
Who knows if and what is possible when it comes to the battery?
There are extended batteries, just search eBay. They have like 200 and more mAh, but they come wit an extended back plate too, so it sticks out quite a bit...
It seems that I am having a problem with my battery. Its draining from a full charge to 80% within 15 minutes of use (If I dont use it stays at 98-99). Is it natural or has the time arrived for changing a battery. Moreover, I observe that there is nowhere written HTC Ltd on my battery. Its written 'Manufactured by Simple Technology Co Ltd, China". So is the battery original ? On average I loose my battery within 18-20 hours from 100% to 7-8% on 60 to 120 minutes of surfing and 30 to 60 minutes of average calling daily.
I have signal strength mostly 90 to 100%. Occassionally it drops to 70%
parthabhatta said:
It seems that I am having a problem with my battery. Its draining from a full charge to 80% within 15 minutes of use (If I dont use it stays at 98-99). Is it natural or has the time arrived for changing a battery. Moreover, I observe that there is nowhere written HTC Ltd on my battery. Its written 'Manufactured by Simple Technology Co Ltd, China". So is the battery original ? On average I loose my battery within 18-20 hours from 100% to 7-8% on 60 to 120 minutes of surfing and 30 to 60 minutes of average calling daily.
I have signal strength mostly 90 to 100%. Occassionally it drops to 70%
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the only way I can help you is by saying that I have the same (if it says: Simplo) manufacturer, and that this is the battery that came with my phone. So unless the webshop I bought it at is cheating, you've got the right battery. I've had it for a little more than a year now, and I'm not familiar with your problem...!
Thanks dekraan. It is indeed Simplo (and not Simple). But then I am facing this problem. What is your average battery life ? I have to wait if somebody else can throw some light on this topic.
Using Fireburned clean ROM 1.1
Applications running in the background (excepting system files) : Featherweather2 files, mortscript, keylock.
the S710 battery does have an issue it seems.
Mine ran out of juice after 9 months of juice so I got it replaced by a new one.
Free since it was under warranty.
parthabhatta said:
Thanks dekraan. It is indeed Simplo (and not Simple). But then I am facing this problem. What is your average battery life ? I have to wait if somebody else can throw some light on this topic.
Using Fireburned clean ROM 1.1
Applications running in the background (excepting system files) : Featherweather2 files, mortscript, keylock.
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Well, you can probably guess I am not so happy with the batterylife of the S710, since thats why I started this topic . I think with moderate use (texting, some calling and sometimes a little surfing) and WM 6.1 standard, I have to reload it at least once in three days. I have noticed though that if I surf, my battery seems to lose about a percentage each minute!
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I have noticed though that if I surf, my battery seems to lose about a percentage each minute!
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Well thats where my problem starts. I am an avid surfer and my battery also drains on a similar rate when I surf. So my battery seems to be ok. A few more comments can clarify the things further.
I can't clarify -- I can only confirm the problem. I have to charge my S710 throughout the day. I've tried the complete drain/complete charge method with no discernible improvement. Using WiFi used to drain the battery very quickly, but now any time I try to use WiFi, the phone immediately turns off as though it's been instantly drained to 0.
Hi,
Previously I successfully rooted LS966 and bricked while flashing ROM (Lesson Learnt) and paid a bomb to repair the motherboard.
I now have H955 - 15B. I successfully rooted the phone via online remote connect help, because I felt it would be cheaper than last time. After rooting,
Debloated mostly all google Bloatware and few system apps based on a list from another discussion on XDA,
Installed Pimp My CPU and reduced to 1230 Mhz
Doze to block background data traffic
Greenify to stop background processes.
This has been quite a versatile combination for me and the battery doesn't drop by even 1% until the screen is on.
Once the screen is on I am losing 1% of battery every 3 - 5 mins.
I am getting a Screen On Time of 3Hrs.45Mins only.
I have also read up on Battery Calibration issue and this is my second full charge - full discharge cycle.
But the battery percentages are still going down at the same speed.
My screen is drinking above 50% of my juice at 100% brightness. I tried to change that few times but it is more or less same.
Earlier it used to be around 15 to 30%. I am attaching current consumption picture.
While I am enjoying a good Stand By Time of upto 12 to 14 hrs, my Screen on Time is reduced to 3hrs 45Mins.
Is this normal?
Or I am missing something?
Is it the way ROM was flashed on old built before rooting because of soft brick while rooting?
Any indication will be of immense help. Many
Many Thanks.
Seems the way it should be. Changed my battery almost a week ago and I get maybe close to 4 hours of SOT, depends how you use your phone, I use it at 80% brightness though and standby time while it's just sitting on the table is days. :good: N.B. Using android 6.0.1, although it used to be pretty much the same on 5.1.1, maybe less standby time.
Also I'm pretty sure Pimp My CPU shouldn't be compatible with this phone because of the kernel and lockdowns. Maybe they've found some kind of loophole, doubt it though.
Also for the battery calibration, I fully discharge every month to 0% and then charge it to 100% while not using it and once it hits 100% it's good to go. Just the way I do it, not everyone does it the same.
Also, I never trust remote help of any kind, who knows what crap they might do, and even though I am an amateur at android rooting and flashing, I've done it myself every time cause I don't trust remote stuff.
And depending if you want root or not, you could use android 5.1.1 15c(although I don't know if the difference between 15b and 15c is that big) with root or android 6.0.1 20c without root. It's rather simple to root on 5.1.1 though, so many guides here, as long as you follow them to the letter.
You don't have to agree with what I've written here, it's just my opinion.
Azure Potato said:
Seems the way it should be. Changed my battery almost a week ago and I get maybe close to 4 hours of SOT, depends how you use your phone, I use it at 80% brightness though and standby time while it's just sitting on the table is days. :good: N.B. Using android 6.0.1, although it used to be pretty much the same on 5.1.1, maybe less standby time.
Also I'm pretty sure Pimp My CPU shouldn't be compatible with this phone because of the kernel and lockdowns. Maybe they've found some kind of loophole, doubt it though.
Also for the battery calibration, I fully discharge every month to 0% and then charge it to 100% while not using it and once it hits 100% it's good to go. Just the way I do it, not everyone does it the same.
You don't have to agree with what I've written here, it's just my opinion.
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Are you sure you get close to 4Hrs of SOT on a brand new battery because I get 3 Hrs and 50 Mins or so but less than 4 Hrs on a phone which is 6 months old. Never changed the battery. If that is the case then I think I am doing alright. I have seen SOT Tests of phones like Pixel and One Plus T.
I dnt think pimp my ROM has any restrictions. It kind of works smoothly. It helps me cool down the hot CPU also. I have ovecome the dreaded overheating issues of G Flex 2 easily with clocking my CPU.
I have done the battery calibration. But it quite didn't help me.
I went paranoid because immediately after the root I started to observe the battery percentage on the top. And I felt its falling drastically. But on the other end my stand by time has gone upto 15 hrs. The battery doesn't drop even by a single percent until the screen is on. Once it is on it goes down drastically.
I think of the battery calibration as kind of a safeguard, it's not a necessity.
The pixel and oneplus are different beasts altogether.
Also, as your phone is only 6 months old then it's battery should be ok and as I stated before battery life depends how one uses their phone, I tend to play a few games here and there with 80% brightness and such so it takes a bit more on my end. I personally haven't seen over 4 hours of SOT with my phone ever since I've had it, but your mileage may vary.
As for the PIMP my CPU, if it works for you good, I personally moved over to 6.0.1. When I was changing my battery I removed the motherboard out of curiosity to see how the thermal pad is and only one edge was touching the frame, so I added some Arctic MX-4 thermal paste between the frame and thermal pad and the temps are surprisingly better now. Still tends to get hotter than it should but throttles a lot less now and the screen brightness doesn't forcibly drop below 80% now, even when gaming. It used to drop to 50% etc before when just browsing the web. Anyways, that's that.
It might be some background stuff eating your battery too if you had better battery life than you do now, or it might be because of the motherboard change. Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to say for sure. Also, the more you look at the battery percentage the worse it looks
Sincerely,
Azure Potato
Azure Potato said:
I think of the battery calibration as kind of a safeguard, it's not a necessity.
The pixel and oneplus are different beasts altogether.
Also, as your phone is only 6 months old then it's battery should be ok and as I stated before battery life depends how one uses their phone, I tend to play a few games here and there with 80% brightness and such so it takes a bit more on my end. I personally haven't seen over 4 hours of SOT with my phone ever since I've had it, but your mileage may vary.
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Pixel is too expensive for me honestly and I am not really into expensive phones like iPhone or Pixel.
I am quite happy with G Flex 2's performance and I was only worried about SOT of 4 Hrs. I re calibrated battery and discharged and charged again 100% Thrice.
Somehow battery last over 15 hours after rooting. For example, its 3PM and I have 70% battery left even with SOT of 90 mins of movie. That is 1Hour30Mins.
And you're right, the more you look at battery. the more complicated it gets :laugh:
After rooting - Greenify + Pimp My ROM + Doze + Uninstall System Apps - combination is giving me 15 hrs of usage per day. It more or less includes phone calls, WiFi browsing, Network Data Browsing, Some videos and crazy amount of Twitter, all put together through out the day.
But I am still interested in SOT per single charge.
Interesting.... Same problem here
I'm on 20A, 6.0.1
You're sitting on about the expected SOT. I get anywhere from 4-5 hours and almost never take my brightness off 0%. I'm running a fully debloated 15c setup, same as yours except a version increment higher. The most intensive thing I do on here is install new apps, no gaming or anything. If you have the Facebook app, try switching to Facebook Lite which you can download off APK Mirror. Does everything the normal app does but without all the bloat, it's only a couple MB. Apart from all the tweaks you've already listed, there's not much else we can do. I've always wondered why screen takes the most battery usage by far, maybe it's just the screen type we have. Screen off is great, I lose less than 3% every night including background updates. Screen drains at about the same rate yours does.
I perform test on flashed full 4 part official firmware on Android 4.4.2, it happens on custom roms too I used a battery discharging app for my tests(Fast discharge from TAKETAKE) but I have to point out that it crashes not only using this tool, it does it casually, I just used this tool for diagnostics. When I put heavy cpu usage but minimum brightness tablet lasts for atleast 10 minutes(saw no need to continue the test), when I put max brightness only I also get atleast 13 minutes. Combined it turns off in 13 seconds. And it turns off in a special way, like through a fuse. The only way to restart it is to physically disconnect the battery and put it back in(or measure voltage between battery ground and charging port with multimeter when charging, wierd thing). Is it normal or there's something wrong with hardware? If hardware problem any tips would be useful. Battery is relatively new from 2017 judging from the label. Would appreciate any help
By the way on Linage OS it turns off way later than on stock OS
2017 is still a five year old battery .
Note 10.1 is that old its not worth playing with discharging etc .
Judged by your other posts best is probably leave it on last stock rom .
JJEgan said:
2017 is still a five year old battery .
Note 10.1 is that old its not worth playing with discharging etc .
Judged by your other posts best is probably leave it on last stock rom .
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I don't give up that easily