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Yesterday i noticed something strange in my OP7p and i'd like you to check whether something like this occurs in your phones. Issue, which i will describe occurs only when i have 90hz refresh rate set and the low brightness of the screen with the auto adjustment of brightness turned off. The easiest way to see that is on youtube application with a dark theme. When we start a movie on the full screen (horizontally) and watch it for a few seconds, then go back to the vertical position, there is something like weak but visible blink of the screen, or a minimal colours change. It can be noticed in other apps, e.g. on facebook. Seems to me this is a software problem, beacause the same phenomenon doesn't exists when we set 60hz refresh. I would be very grateful if you can check it on your phones and give me a know about it.
I don't usually start videos in full screen mode and never noticed it but yeah definitely does a white flicker.
This is the highest brightness I could get it to do the flicker at.
Thank you for an answer. Personally i am able to see this flicker on a little bit higher screen brightness, but maybe its because im sitting in a dark room now. I was worried cause sometimes i see it during the normal usage of phone, and if only my OnePlus would be affected by this flickering i could still return it or exchange for a new one. It isnt very disturbing however interesting is whats cause of it.
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Yesterday i noticed something strange in my OP7p and i'd like you to check whether something like this occurs in your phones. Issue, which i will describe occurs only when i have 90hz refresh rate set and the low brightness of the screen with the auto adjustment of brightness turned off. The easiest way to see that is on youtube application with a dark theme. When we start a movie on the full screen (horizontally) and watch it for a few seconds, then go back to the vertical position, there is something like weak but visible blink of the screen, or a minimal colours change. It can be noticed in other apps, e.g. on facebook. Seems to me this is a software problem, beacause the same phenomenon doesn't exists when we set 60hz refresh. I would be very grateful if you can check it on your phones and give me a know about it.
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this is usual for EVERY Oled screen and is called jelly effect...
You might want to try the DC dimming option in Settings->Utilities->OnePlus Laboratory.
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this is usual for EVERY Oled screen and is called jelly effect...
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From what i know jelly effect appears while we scrolling some content and propably that's not what i meant in my first post. Also flicker in my case is only visible on 90hz refresh rate.
I have galaxy s7e as a second phone and that effect doesn't happen there.
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You might want to try the DC dimming option in Settings->Utilities->OnePlus Laboratory.
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Thanks but i tried this option and it didn't do the job well.
Has anyone figure method(s) to Force 120Hz display yet ? The dynamic refresh rate in both auto and 120Hz mode is now, the only thing on this phone bothers me so much.
EU rom (under display and brightness) has the option to choose : "Auto Select"; "120Hz" or "60Hz" in Screen Refresh Rate
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EU rom (under display and brightness) has the option to choose : "Auto Select"; "120Hz" or "60Hz" in Screen Refresh Rate
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That's true, however, OP points out the fact that even at "120 Hz" setting the phone does some sort of battery saving stuff like optimizing the refresh rate based on applications used, battery level etc.
Which is not a bad thing, don't get me wrong - saving battery when the app (or user) don't benefit from 120 Hz setting is a pretty useful stuff. But then it should not be called "120 Hz" mode but rather "Light Adaptive mode" or something.
Btw Oneplus 8 Pro has even more aggressive approach to this, it literally switches to 60 Hz when you don't touch the screen, back to 120 Hz for two seconds when you touch the screen and then reverts to 60 Hz.
This is the reason why Oneplus 8 Pro is so good in all 120 Hz battery drain tests because, basically... it almost never runs it. This should not be called 120 Hz even though I fully appreciate the battery saving mechanism.
You can check here whether Oppo Find X2 Pro stays at 120 Hz (fps) or switches to 60 Hz right after you touch it like Oneplus: https://www.testufo.com
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That's true, however, OP points out the fact that even at "120 Hz" setting the phone does some sort of battery saving stuff like optimizing the refresh rate based on applications used, battery level etc.
Which is not a bad thing, don't get me wrong - saving battery when the app (or user) don't benefit from 120 Hz setting is a pretty useful stuff. But then it should not be called "120 Hz" mode but rather "Light Adaptive mode" or something.
Btw Oneplus 8 Pro has even more aggressive approach to this, it literally switches to 60 Hz when you don't touch the screen, back to 120 Hz for two seconds when you touch the screen and then reverts to 60 Hz.
This is the reason why Oneplus 8 Pro is so good in all 120 Hz battery drain tests because, basically... it almost never runs it. This should not be called 120 Hz even though I fully appreciate the battery saving mechanism.
You can check here whether Oppo Find X2 Pro stays at 120 Hz (fps) or switches to 60 Hz right after you touch it like Oneplus: https://www.testufo.com
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Thanks for clarifying my point. In addition, OnePlus's high refresh rate displays can be forced to run at the constant value via ADB method but I have no clue for an OPPO's. I don't understand that why OPPO provides both 120Hz and auto refresh rate options but perform exactly the same.
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Thanks for clarifying my point. In addition, OnePlus's high refresh rate displays can be forced to run at the constant value via ADB method but I have no clue for an OPPO's. I don't understand that why OPPO provides both 120Hz and auto refresh rate options but perform exactly the same.
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Sorry if I misunderstood. I've used the website suggested and my x2 pro remains at 118-120hz throughout ?
BlueMeany68 said:
Sorry if I misunderstood. I've used the website suggested and my x2 pro remains at 118-120hz throughout ?
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Try it on browser like Microsoft Edge or Chrome Dev. Those browsers are limited at 60Hz while I can force run my OnePlus 8's at 90Hz all time via ADB.
MaKuRoZuMK2 said:
Has anyone figure method(s) to Force 120Hz display yet ? The dynamic refresh rate in both auto and 120Hz mode is now, the only thing on this phone bothers me so much.
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I try something via adb
adb shell settings list secure
And I found this
coloros_screen_refresh_rate=3
3 = 120hz
2=60hz
0=Auto
But I cant put any number because android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS not granted
Maybe, just maybe, if you can put it to another number ( like 1 or 4 ), you can force 120hz on Oppo Find X2/X2Pro
BIBUBO BCJ said:
I try something via adb
adb shell settings list secure
And I found this
coloros_screen_refresh_rate=3
3 = 120hz
2=60hz
0=Auto
But I cant put any number because android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS not granted
Maybe, just maybe, if you can put it to another number ( like 1 or 4 ), you can force 120hz on Oppo Find X2/X2Pro
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Tried this, was able to put both 1 and 4 and unfortunately, it's not forced at 120Hz. Now it's the dead end haha.
MaKuRoZuMK2 said:
Tried this, was able to put both 1 and 4 and unfortunately, it's not forced at 120Hz. Now it's the dead end haha.
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ps. 1 is fake 90Hz mode and I have no idea with 4 and beyond.
ps.2 you have to disable permission monitoring in dev options first in order to set those settings.
MaKuRoZuMK2 said:
ps. 1 is fake 90Hz mode and I have no idea with 4 and beyond.
ps.2 you have to disable permission monitoring in dev options first in order to set those settings.
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Oh I really forgot that option :cyclops:
BTW, There's some command like auto_switch and frozen_time, while Find X2/X2 Pro are using an adaptive 120hz, so any ideas ?
BIBUBO BCJ said:
Oh I really forgot that option :cyclops:
BTW, There's some command like auto_switch and frozen_time, while Find X2/X2 Pro are using an adaptive 120hz, so any ideas ?
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Will try that as soon as I can
Sad that a 120hz phone only runs 120hz in a few apps, my Moto edge is 90hz in almost every app as I can see, Razer phone was 120hz in every app or you could force an app to run 120hz if it wasn't already, sad
If you want 120Hz in more apps you have to enable O1 Ultra Vision on 120Hz. 1080p only though.
That will make apps like IG smoother and YT in 120Hz.
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If you want 120Hz in more apps you have to enable O1 Ultra Vision on 120Hz. 1080p only though.
That will make apps like IG smoother and YT in 120Hz.
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And I have to sacrifice that 2K resolution on my display
Working around for those options
BIBUBO BCJ said:
Oh I really forgot that option :cyclops:
BTW, There's some command like auto_switch and frozen_time, while Find X2/X2 Pro are using an adaptive 120hz, so any ideas ?
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Update, I tried to config those two commands with no success
hope to run 120hz every app
Most apps are not optimized for running at 120hz yet, it's down to individual apps, when you set it to auto only the user interface and oppos apps run at 120 but all other apps run at 60, basically some apps do some apps don't , not oppos fault
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Jordytjes said:
If you want 120Hz in more apps you have to enable O1 Ultra Vision on 120Hz. 1080p only though.
That will make apps like IG smoother and YT in 120Hz.
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The ultra vision only adds frames on to the video that your playing that's all, doesn't smooth out the actual app
kevinireland11 said:
Most apps are not optimized for running at 120hz yet, it's down to individual apps, when you set it to auto only the user interface and oppos apps run at 120 but all other apps run at 60, basically some apps do some apps don't , not oppos fault
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The ultra vision only adds frames on to the video that your playing that's all, doesn't smooth out the actual app
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That is not true. YT is normally only 60Hz to save battery for example. With O1 it has to be on 120Hz as the actual video is also interpolated to 120Hz. Try it out for your self.
We mean 120hz scrolling/animations within an app, not video playback
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We mean 120hz scrolling/animations within an app, not video playback
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Hi,
anyone noticing lag in the rotation animation? Most of the time the first time is pretty smooth. When changing rotation a few times thereafter the animations look more like 60 fps (although 120 is activated). Tried it in different apps. Always the same and really annoying and ugly.
Can anybody confirm this?
This issue goes way back. Even my 10+ does it.
Might have to do with the sensor refresh rate and/or degree of tilt/time at tilt/yaw.
If it takes more then a second there's definitely a fault issue.
Mmh. Actually I didn't recognize this when using my S20 with 120hz. At least not that much. So there's nothing that can improve the experience? I even thought the phone didn't have this behavior from the start which led to the question if I have something fishy installed. But there's nothing out of the ordinary. It's the same when using stock launcher or Ruthless launcher.
Be interested if there was a way to make it more responsive. This aspect of the device's behavior is slow by comparison to it's otherwise snappy performance. It is irritating... I hate waiting.
It's about .5-1 second on the N10+ in Brave browser and elsewhere.
I'm going to go through accessibility settings again. It's likely a user hidden setting though.
Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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Yeap, no joy
KOLIOSIS said:
Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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For me the problem is that it looks sluggish as if the phone struggles to display the 120 Hz. Setting the transition scale to 0.5 or 0 doesn't do it for me. Makes it even more unsatisfying.
Cris7ianO said:
For me the problem is that it looks sluggish as if the phone struggles to display the 120 Hz. Setting the transition scale to 0.5 or 0 doesn't do it for me. Makes it even more unsatisfying.
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It has nothing to do with your refresh rate or does it? It so there may be some hope.
Like I said though both my N10+'s behave this way, it's normal... and irritating.
blackhawk said:
It has nothing to do with your refresh rate or does it? It so there may be some hope.
Like I said though both my N10+'s behave this way, it's normal... and irritating.
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Honestly it looks like the phone is struggling to keep it on 120hz when rotating. When I choose 60hz and rotate the phone it looks the same way constantly. That's why I'm thinking it has something to do with the frame rate. So in my case it's not about a delay for the animation it's about the smoothness.
Cris7ianO said:
Honestly it looks like the phone is struggling to keep it on 120hz when rotating. When I choose 60hz and rotate the phone it looks the same way constantly. That's why I'm thinking it has something to do with the frame rate. So in my case it's not about a delay for the animation it's about the smoothness.
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What I'm talking about is how long it takes to flip the screen to landscape once the phone's flipped. Close to 1 second.
I always disable all animations as it wastes resources plus I like the snap.
Lol, if it needs animations, it's too slow.
Cris7ianO said:
Hi,
anyone noticing lag in the rotation animation? Most of the time the first time is pretty smooth. When changing rotation a few times thereafter the animations look more like 60 fps (although 120 is activated). Tried it in different apps. Always the same and really annoying and ugly.
Can anybody confirm this?
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Sounds like something might be bogging it down.
I have the obligatory delay when rotating (because you have a ton of redraws happening on top of the actual animation itself, not some accessibility setting), but it is minimal. That aside, the rotation is smooth with animation set to 0.5 and adaptive motion smoothness.
The difference between your previous S20, my previous Note 20, and the Z Flip 3 is the lost RAM. This is an 8GB device, compared to 12GB or 16GB from last year. After some time getting used to being able to launch a bunch of stuff, it is easy to forget that this one can't run quite as much at once.
The only sure way to stop that completely without having to keep tabs on how much is running would be Developer options -> Don't keep activities or setting Background process limit, both of which come with some downsides.
If it is happening with a single app running after multiple turns, that could indicate an issue with the GPU. It could be as simple as poor cache handling that will be resolved with an update or a clean start. It could also be a hardware issue.
twistedumbrella said:
Sounds like something might be bogging it down.
I have the obligatory delay when rotating (because you have a ton of redraws happening on top of the actual animation itself, not some accessibility setting), but it is minimal. That aside, the rotation is smooth with animation set to 0.5 and adaptive motion smoothness.
The difference between your previous S20, my previous Note 20, and the Z Flip 3 is the lost RAM. This is an 8GB device, compared to 12GB or 16GB from last year. After some time getting used to being able to launch a bunch of stuff, it is easy to forget that this one can't run quite as much at once.
The only sure way to stop that completely without having to keep tabs on how much is running would be Developer options -> Don't keep activities or setting Background process limit, both of which come with some downsides.
If it is happening with a single app running after multiple turns, that could indicate an issue with the GPU. It could be as simple as poor cache handling that will be resolved with an update or a clean start. It could also be a hardware issue.
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This sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. The S20 with 12 GB indeed hadn't any of those issues, at least not to that extent. In addition I don't have that issue permanently. It only occurs from time to time. Haven't got an update since release. Hopefully it gets an improvement in the near future as it is disturbing. Nevertheless it is a joke that something like that happens even with 8 GB of RAM.
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This sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. The S20 with 12 GB indeed hadn't any of those issues, at least not to that extent. In addition I don't have that issue permanently. It only occurs from time to time. Haven't got an update since release. Hopefully it gets an improvement in the near future as it is disturbing. Nevertheless it is a joke that something like that happens even with 8 GB of RAM.
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Do you use split screen apps? The only time i've really come across the issue was trying to run both a game and the browser with a couple other apps still in the background.
I think an update will definitely help, though. It seems like the 8GB on this is a larger step down than it should be right now and it is supposed to be a much better GPU.
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Do you use split screen apps? The only time i've really come across the issue was trying to run both a game and the browser with a couple other apps still in the background.
I think an update will definitely help, though. It seems like the 8GB on this is a larger step down than it should be right now and it is supposed to be a much better GPU.
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No, I don't really use split screen apps. Hopefully an update will help. The device definitely has some obvious tradeoffs but in general it feels fresh and I really like it.
Just an update from my side: Indeed my inner feeling wasn't wrong. I just encountered the sluggish rotation again. Thereafter I went to developer settings and enabled show refresh rate. I went back and tried rotation again. The first time all is fine and it shows 120, but the times thereafter it jumped to 60 Hz when rotating. And if course my eyes will notice this behavior as they are used to 120. Hopefully this will get fixed. This has to be software related.
So this behavior is due to the adaptive refresh rate. It's there a way to force 120 all the time?
Cris7ianO said:
Just an update from my side: Indeed my inner feeling wasn't wrong. I just encountered the sluggish rotation again. Thereafter I went to developer settings and enabled show refresh rate. I went back and tried rotation again. The first time all is fine and it shows 120, but the times thereafter it jumped to 60 Hz when rotating. And if course my eyes will notice this behavior as they are used to 120. Hopefully this will get fixed. This has to be software related.
So this behavior is due to the adaptive refresh rate. It's there a way to force 120 all the time?
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[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Control: Easily control the max refresh rate (Hz) of android devices with multiple refresh rates (e.g. note20 ultra, s20/S20+/S20Ultra, z fold 2, s21/s21+/s21Ultra, tab S7/S7+, z fold 3, z flip 3). This app can limit...
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Pretty sure that would be able to handle it for you.
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[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Control: Easily control the max refresh rate (Hz) of android devices with multiple refresh rates (e.g. note20 ultra, s20/S20+/S20Ultra, z fold 2, s21/s21+/s21Ultra, tab S7/S7+, z fold 3, z flip 3). This app can limit...
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Pretty sure that would be able to handle it for you.
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I tried this app and I am not fully satisfied with the outcome. Of course forcing 120hz will train the small battery even more and I don't want to be dependant on a 3rd party solution. Just to confirm the behavior is not only on my end, can you please test the following on your device?
1. Go to developer options and enable show refresh rate
2. Go in following apps: e.g. Whatsapp, Facebook, Google Play, Samsung Internet, Amazon Shopping (cause I don't face this issue on all apps)
3. In each app wait a few seconds four the refresh rate to go down to 60 and then rotate the screen (In my case the refresh rate stays at 60 when rotating in the mentioned apps and this looks horrible when the rest is running on 120hz)
If you could borrow a few minutes of your time to check that would be awesome and is very appreciated Thanks in advance!
Update: Just to be sure I did a factory reset. Still no improvement...
Further investigation gave me more information. There is something weird going on. When display brightness is low (around 10-15%) there is no issue for the phone keeping 120 while rotating. When I go up in brightness the 60hz rotation is back again. This is horrible. I've had a look on the new iPhone 13 pro and Apple doesn't have these issues with their adaptive screen. As I had the S20 before and skipped the s21 with the adaptive one this Flip is my first Samsung device with an adaptive screen. The experience is horrible. I just want a compact android device without such a compromise. This is ridiculous.
I just noticed that my Pixel 4 XL (currently has the newest Android 12/November patch) does not cycle between 60 and 90 hz anymore. I just noticed an unexpectated and new drain on the battery and finally found the culprit.
Yes, I checked developer options, the phone is NOT forcing 90hz. I checked with developer options (show refresh rate) and the phone is constantly, meaning 100% using 90hz, it never changes to 60. No matter what I do - Youtube, phone, scrolling, doing nothing, idling, homescreen, newspaper app, Audible - it matters not. It is constantly forcing 90hz WITHOUT having ever clicked the 90hz force toggle. This is putting a drain on the battery that is just unacceptable.
Can you guys confirm this?
Try clearing the system cache.
A factory reset maybe be needed after a major OTA firmware upgrade but there's no guarantee it will resolve it.
Updates tend to break things...
blackhawk said:
Try clearing the system cache.
A factory reset maybe be needed after a major OTA firmware upgrade but there's no guarantee it will resolve it.
Updates tend to break things...
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The phone was - actually - already factor reset. After doing the Android 12 update, I factory reset it and gave it to a family member, that one set it up new. So it's not a "remnant" of Android 11.
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The phone was - actually - already factor reset. After doing the Android 12 update, I factory reset it and gave it to a family member, that one set it up new. So it's not a "remnant" of Android 11.
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I would re-flash with the latest full image, leaving the script intact (allowing the data partition to be wiped). This may be inconvenient but it's the only way you will know if there is a hardware issue with the phone. I'd also like to know what led you to the refresh rate. In other words, what made you look there. The stock battery monitor is not very good and even looking at system apps (screen, ambient display) you only get time and a percentage of the battery.
is the same on 12 and 11, i just installed 11 and is always 90hz
yes i can confirm, i had the same issue and i just boght my pixel 4 xl 10 days ago. updated to android 13 beta now and it still has the same problem. really weird but i think that google just decided that its best for google pixel 4 owners to have 90hz all the time now cause u know its "more common" now
Google changed how Smooth display works during the cycle of the phone. IIRC it was the same on A11 too. Basically the only time it goes 60hz is during battery saving mode & in some specific apps that prohibit it. It also disables it when HBM is on.
That doesn't make a lot of sense, you can save much more energy by just raising to 90hz for touch and animations and otherwise reduce to 60hz independently of the battery state.
I had the pixel 7 Pro for a while and can confirm that it works there as expected (60 for static content & no touch events, otherwise raises up to 120hz), just not for the pixel 4 XL.
This does seem like a bug to me and explains why battery life (SOT) got so much worse. I wonder if it's an intended degradation to get people to upgrade..
Fix it with adb, set minimal refresh rate
adb shell settings put system min_refresh_rate 1.0
adb shell settings put system peak_refresh_rate 90.0
Tested that, does not work either unfortunately. Display stays on 90Hz all the time
onemandivision said:
Tested that, does not work either unfortunately. Display stays on 90Hz all the time
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Confirm you have extra dim disabled, and brightness 60%
Confirmed, does not make a difference
Out of nowhere it started working. The only thing I changed in between is brightness and extra dim, ending up with the same setting as before (full brightness, extra dim disabled). Didn't work straight away, but after leaving the phone for 5 minutes and picking it up again, I immediately noticed (display refresh rate setting was still enabled)
Thank you for your help, Hamid!
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Out of nowhere it started working. The only thing I changed in between is brightness and extra dim, ending up with the same setting as before (full brightness, extra dim disabled). Didn't work straight away, but after leaving the phone for 5 minutes and picking it up again, I immediately noticed (display refresh rate setting was still enabled)
Thank you for your help, Hamid!
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No problem, glad i helped!
Feel free to visit my optimization threads, it might help improve your battery life and performance.
One last remark: It didn't really work well at first, at least not as consistently as on the pixel 7 that I've tried. After some trial and error, playing around with various settings, the culprit seems to have the "increase touchscreen sensitivity" setting that I had enabled. Since turning it off, the switching between 60 and 90Hz is much better. Brightness and extra dim don't seem to play a role.
Battery life also seems to have improved a lot (now at ~50% at the end of the day compared to <20% before)
Hello ,
I observe that, my s22ultra in the same conditions (light intensity) make darker screen than my old note10+.
In my old phone (note 10+), the adaptive brightness works very well for my eyes (maybe excluding reaction speed - but never it wasn't too bright or too dark (in my opinion), never had to change any settings.
S22Ultra always make's screen too dark for me (in all lighting conditions) and i compare works of with my old note10+ and approved my suspicion that s22u makes screen darker than note10+ in the same conditions.
In general, the "jump / scale" of switching from light to dark and vice versa is good, but I would have to move the "threshold / level 0" action to a slightly brighter - if anyone understands what I mean - you can do something about it, someone has an idea ? Can I fix working of this function ?
What do you think about adaptive brightness in S22U?
Are you satisfied with its functioning?
See the differences compared to your old phone (what mobile it was)?
Thank you very much for any suggestions
I have two N10+'s and as far as I'm concerned adaptive brightness never worked right. Maybe better than my S4. I disable and use manual control, easier on the battery, display and retinas. It also varies in spite of not seeing huge changes in lighting conditions when sitting, I find this very distracting.
Best practice to limit display on in direct sunlight to seconds not minutes. Avoid using in direct sunlight whenever possible.
I try to limit brightness to less than 50%, 30-40% is typical. As a result after almost 3 years of heavy usage my original N10+'s display is still perfect with no signs of wear.
If I know I'll need to use the phone in bright conditions I will temporarily enable auto brightness sometimes. Otherwise I find it useless and generally too bright.