Android 12 - refresh rate is broken, 90hz all the time - Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion

I just noticed that my Pixel 4 XL (currently has the newest Android 12/November patch) does not cycle between 60 and 90 hz anymore. I just noticed an unexpectated and new drain on the battery and finally found the culprit.
Yes, I checked developer options, the phone is NOT forcing 90hz. I checked with developer options (show refresh rate) and the phone is constantly, meaning 100% using 90hz, it never changes to 60. No matter what I do - Youtube, phone, scrolling, doing nothing, idling, homescreen, newspaper app, Audible - it matters not. It is constantly forcing 90hz WITHOUT having ever clicked the 90hz force toggle. This is putting a drain on the battery that is just unacceptable.
Can you guys confirm this?

Try clearing the system cache.
A factory reset maybe be needed after a major OTA firmware upgrade but there's no guarantee it will resolve it.
Updates tend to break things...

blackhawk said:
Try clearing the system cache.
A factory reset maybe be needed after a major OTA firmware upgrade but there's no guarantee it will resolve it.
Updates tend to break things...
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The phone was - actually - already factor reset. After doing the Android 12 update, I factory reset it and gave it to a family member, that one set it up new. So it's not a "remnant" of Android 11.

Morgrain said:
The phone was - actually - already factor reset. After doing the Android 12 update, I factory reset it and gave it to a family member, that one set it up new. So it's not a "remnant" of Android 11.
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I would re-flash with the latest full image, leaving the script intact (allowing the data partition to be wiped). This may be inconvenient but it's the only way you will know if there is a hardware issue with the phone. I'd also like to know what led you to the refresh rate. In other words, what made you look there. The stock battery monitor is not very good and even looking at system apps (screen, ambient display) you only get time and a percentage of the battery.

is the same on 12 and 11, i just installed 11 and is always 90hz

yes i can confirm, i had the same issue and i just boght my pixel 4 xl 10 days ago. updated to android 13 beta now and it still has the same problem. really weird but i think that google just decided that its best for google pixel 4 owners to have 90hz all the time now cause u know its "more common" now

Google changed how Smooth display works during the cycle of the phone. IIRC it was the same on A11 too. Basically the only time it goes 60hz is during battery saving mode & in some specific apps that prohibit it. It also disables it when HBM is on.

That doesn't make a lot of sense, you can save much more energy by just raising to 90hz for touch and animations and otherwise reduce to 60hz independently of the battery state.
I had the pixel 7 Pro for a while and can confirm that it works there as expected (60 for static content & no touch events, otherwise raises up to 120hz), just not for the pixel 4 XL.
This does seem like a bug to me and explains why battery life (SOT) got so much worse. I wonder if it's an intended degradation to get people to upgrade..

Fix it with adb, set minimal refresh rate
adb shell settings put system min_refresh_rate 1.0
adb shell settings put system peak_refresh_rate 90.0

Tested that, does not work either unfortunately. Display stays on 90Hz all the time

onemandivision said:
Tested that, does not work either unfortunately. Display stays on 90Hz all the time
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Confirm you have extra dim disabled, and brightness 60%

Confirmed, does not make a difference

Out of nowhere it started working. The only thing I changed in between is brightness and extra dim, ending up with the same setting as before (full brightness, extra dim disabled). Didn't work straight away, but after leaving the phone for 5 minutes and picking it up again, I immediately noticed (display refresh rate setting was still enabled)
Thank you for your help, Hamid!

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Out of nowhere it started working. The only thing I changed in between is brightness and extra dim, ending up with the same setting as before (full brightness, extra dim disabled). Didn't work straight away, but after leaving the phone for 5 minutes and picking it up again, I immediately noticed (display refresh rate setting was still enabled)
Thank you for your help, Hamid!
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No problem, glad i helped!
Feel free to visit my optimization threads, it might help improve your battery life and performance.

One last remark: It didn't really work well at first, at least not as consistently as on the pixel 7 that I've tried. After some trial and error, playing around with various settings, the culprit seems to have the "increase touchscreen sensitivity" setting that I had enabled. Since turning it off, the switching between 60 and 90Hz is much better. Brightness and extra dim don't seem to play a role.
Battery life also seems to have improved a lot (now at ~50% at the end of the day compared to <20% before)

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Battery life considerably worse after update to 9.0

OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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Click the three dots in the top right and choose battery usage.
As for battery life, mine has improved greatly on Android P
NickJHP said:
OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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Ok here. 62% drop over night doing nothing suggests you have a rogue app in there. I'm assuming you have ok cellular coverage and nothing has changed there by coincidence. I would reboot and force close every app you have that's not essential overnight and try again. Swipe up from home and clearing those apps doesn't force close the apps. Greenify is an app that (in manual mode) will make it easy to select as many apps as you want and force close the lot of them. If that improves the situation you can then begin to work out which app(s) might be doing bad stuff whilst you sleep...
Battery on my P2 has significantly improved with Pie even if I didn't have any major problem with 8.1 either. Overnight drain 3-4%. After regular use after a full day I easily exceed 5h SOT. Everything stock with just Greenify in non root mode. I couldn't be happier, best Android release so far for me.
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OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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I've had my p2 installed with PIE for about 2 days now. I suggest giving it a week (which is what I'm doing) and then getting a full overview of how my battery is performing. Usually, after any major OS updates, being that apps are trying to utilize your resources and a new version of Android would try to allocate and learn your usage (in this case battery), you'd get a much better definitive idea of your overall performance.
I also think that since its now available, turn on Adaptive Battery mode. After a day of upgrading the OS, Adaptive battery at my 26 hr mark of upgrade said that one of my apps was taking in a lot of resources to be used in the background (ES File Explorer). I made AB to stop ES from taking battery resources.
So in conclusion, if it a week and then you'll be able to get a better overall understanding of whether your battery REALLY has gotten worse or better.
Hope this helps!
Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
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Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
Exact same problem here after updating. Even tried a factory reset in case it was an updating issue. Same problem. My battery is currently at 43% 4 hours after a full charge. And I've barely used it. This is really poor.
No new apps installed.
My Oreo battery life was great. I'll try shutting off adaptive battery as suggested - but seems a real shame if one of the flagship battery saving features is doing the total opposite on Google's current flagship phone!
Doesn't seem to be a massively common issue so not sure if a likelihood of a patch either
Just a quick update - Google play services has now become the biggest drain on my battery, just as it was before I factory reset after the first install...
Anyone else had the same?
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Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
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Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
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I had the same issue and did the same thing... until dp3 and my battery usage was terrible again even with adaptive battery turned off. I ended up turning it on again and after about a week my battery usage was back where it was before. So there doesn't seem to be a magic bullet here. FWIW app usage offered no insight as to what was causing the drain in the first place.
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Battery on my P2 has significantly improved with Pie
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THIS.
I got like 8+ hours of SOT.... no mobile network though, all day wifi use only.
I have this issue. Dropped about 40% over night. I found that turning wifi off stopped the drain completely. I did not have this problem with Oreo at all so it's not the networks im connecting to. Weird thing is this did not happen when I first installed Pie. This started happening about 3 days into installing. Also, I put it in safe mode and saw the same drain with wifi on vs off.
Hi guys,
I seem to have fixed my terrible battery life!
The below might be worth a try if you're still suffering from it.
I noticed in GSAM that RCSphone was the front runner in battery drain so did a little research and found this site.
SOLUTION: Turn off app preview messages (settings / google / app preview messages). Apparently its only function is to allow Allo messages to be received without the app. To me, totally pointless as i don't know - nor have ever met - a single person who uses it.
I've gone from draining 8-10% an hour (screen off) to around 2.5%/hour and from 1hr 35 total SOT to 3hrs 39 minutes with 32% left (and an hour of that was Google maps navigating, so a proper work out for the phone).
Do give it a try and let me know if it works for you.
Although there's room for improvement (idle 2.5%/h seems high to me!) and it's ludicrous that I should have spent several hours finding a fix for this on 100% stock android, I'm very happy to have a usable battery life back again...
Adam.
UPDATE: Seems like in the night I lost 40% again. Idle drain climbed it's way up to 5.6% in the night. Still an improvement from where it was before, but not quite as good as it first appeared...
WibblyW said:
Ok here. 62% drop over night doing nothing suggests you have a rogue app in there. I'm assuming you have ok cellular coverage and nothing has changed there by coincidence. I would reboot and force close every app you have that's not essential overnight and try again. Swipe up from home and clearing those apps doesn't force close the apps. Greenify is an app that (in manual mode) will make it easy to select as many apps as you want and force close the lot of them. If that improves the situation you can then begin to work out which app(s) might be doing bad stuff whilst you sleep...
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@Burkules I drop 0.4 - 0.7%/hr over night with Bluetooth off/Wifi on/strong cellular signal. Much the same as it was with Oreo. Not quite sure why's there's such a big range (almost 2x) but either way it's ok for me. Did you try the technique above?
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@Burkules I drop 0.4 - 0.7%/hr over night with Bluetooth off/Wifi on/strong cellular signal. Much the same as it was with Oreo. Not quite sure why's there's such a big range (almost 2x) but either way it's ok for me. Did you try the technique above?
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Cheers for getting back on this.
I left it on safe mode the other night and it still drained absurdly fast, which suggests to me it's a google system drain rather than rogue app, but will try again with app preview now switched off. Likewise will try greenify again and report back.
Burkules said:
Cheers for getting back on this.
I left it on safe mode the other night and it still drained absurdly fast, which suggests to me it's a google system drain rather than rogue app, but will try again with app preview now switched off. Likewise will try greenify again and report back.
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Likewise maybe app preview set to off will help me even more. If I recall correctly rogue apps can cause some google system apps to wake up, but perhaps not in safe mode...
WibblyW said:
Likewise maybe app preview set to off will help me even more. If I recall correctly rogue apps can cause some google system apps to wake up, but perhaps not in safe mode...
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So, switched off adaptive battery again (i'd enabled it after my short-lived miracle recovery the other day) and now I'm down to 4%/hour. Which is better but still really high for idling! Cleared cache and data in Google play services for good measure too as it still comes up super high on the list of battery drainers.
Booting into safe mode now to check the drain without adaptive there and will report back...
UPDATE: Exactly the same drain in safe mode. This is a straight up google problem....
Burkules said:
So, switched off adaptive battery again (i'd enabled it after my short-lived miracle recovery the other day) and now I'm down to 4%/hour. Which is better but still really high for idling! Cleared cache and data in Google play services for good measure too as it still comes up super high on the list of battery drainers.
Booting into safe mode now to check the drain without adaptive there and will report back...
UPDATE: Exactly the same drain in safe mode. This is a straight up google problem....
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Have you tried to force close every app you've downloaded too?
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Have you tried to force close every app you've downloaded too?
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Haven't tried this - but if the battery drain is the same in safe mode (with only google/system apps running) I can't see how it will make a difference. Ill be in rehearsal for several hours today so will force close everything and will then be leaving my phone idling for a few hours anyway.
I signup up to the google play services beta yesterday, and google play services no longer appears as one of the top battery users... but the battery drain is the same and the numbers given in *all* battery apps (Gsam/accubattery/system) don't add up to anything close to the actual % drain. System battery displays 15% of usage (with 'full device usage' on show) when the battery is quite evidently at 48% from full charge. Total cluster****. So pissed off I updated.
Have you seen any improvement in yours with any of these workarounds?
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Haven't tried this - but if the battery drain is the same in safe mode (with only google/system apps running) I can't see how it will make a difference. Ill be in rehearsal for several hours today so will force close everything and will then be leaving my phone idling for a few hours anyway.
I signup up to the google play services beta yesterday, and google play services no longer appears as one of the top battery users... but the battery drain is the same and the numbers given in *all* battery apps (Gsam/accubattery/system) don't add up to anything close to the actual % drain. System battery displays 15% of usage (with 'full device usage' on show) when the battery is quite evidently at 48% from full charge. Total cluster****. So pissed off I updated.
Have you seen any improvement in yours with any of these workarounds?
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Nothing to lose by trying. And as I said, Greenify makes it easy/quick to do. Force closing is almost as good as uninstalling those apps as the vast majority of installed apps won't restart or run in background until you use them for the first time again. In my experience, quiescent battery consumption (e.g. noticed over night):
Is vastly affected negatively by poor cellular signal strength. Marginal coverage can really drain the battery fast.
Gradually gets worse between reboots
Can be improved (once it degrades) if you force close all the apps you've installed, and swipe away the background apps just before you go to bed!
If quiescent consumption suddenly rises I can normally fix it by force closing all the apps (not being sure which was the one gone rogue/suddenly misbehaving)
At night I generally have excellent cellular coverage, good WiFi, and Bluetooth is off. NFC is always off
I don't enable sync on 2 of the 3 Gmail accounts I have configured
I disable notifications from any apps I don't actually need them from
Quiescent battery consumption is between, say, 0.4% and, 0.7%/hr at home, around 2 to 3%/hr when out and about which I put down to all background data being driven over 4G instead of Wifi, and variable cellular coverage
I've not noticed quiescent battery consumption change between Oreo and Pie, but this may be because I keep force closing apps at night and not giving adaptive battery (which I have on) a chance to have the same effect intelligently
Turning off app preview messages has made no practical different for me
I'm completely stock (stock launcher, not rooted, etc.)
If you can't fix it, at least a factory reset as the next experiment has the option to restore *most* of what was there before (so long as you have had the backup setting enabled). But because not everything is restored it's still a pain. And if that doesn't work it's another factory reset and test and then restore everything manually and gradually :-S. But I think you already tried that?
Burkules said:
Hi guys,
I seem to have fixed my terrible battery life!
The below might be worth a try if you're still suffering from it.
I noticed in GSAM that RCSphone was the front runner in battery drain so did a little research and found this site.
SOLUTION: Turn off app preview messages (settings / google / app preview messages). Apparently its only function is to allow Allo messages to be received without the app. To me, totally pointless as i don't know - nor have ever met - a single person who uses it.
Thanks, just tried that as well and my battery has stayed resolutely at 68% on idle beside me for the last few hours, previously it had gone from 100% down to 69% in about 4 hours whilst similarly doing nothing.
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Crazy battery consumption by always on display even when off

I have noticed that always on display started to eat thru my battery when the phone is idle more than the usual I turned it off and it seems like it is still affecting me even when completely off. I have noticed that this might have happened after installing the mars suoer wallpaper but I couldn't figure how to uninstall it or get rid of it.
ahmed.zx said:
I have noticed that always on display started to eat thru my battery when the phone is idle more than the usual I turned it off and it seems like it is still affecting me even when completely off. I have noticed that this might have happened after installing the mars suoer wallpaper but I couldn't figure how to uninstall it or get rid of it.
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After using these instructions, the operation continued for me 24 hours even with always on .
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/to...3&share_fid=3793&share_type=t&link_source=app
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I have done these instructions before are you saying that I should re do it ?
I have uninstalled the saturn wallpaper that thought might be issue and no change
ahmed.zx said:
I have done these instructions before are you saying that I should re do it ?
I have uninstalled the saturn wallpaper that thought might be issue and no change
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Check which app running in background and stopped him
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I was excited as there was an update today on my Poco F2 Pro (via System Apps Updater that auto-installed for 'Always on Mode'. It's now RELEASE-2.4.541-08261215 and that What's new: fix problems)
It hasn't fixed anything, whenever I use AOD my battery life halves (it always drops 5%+ in the first hour with no use - without AOD and it drops 1-2%)
It astonishes me that whoever wrote this doesn't take basic common sense into account, ie "don't check any sensors to turn the AOD on and off" - that polling prevents the device from dozing, killing battery life. Just leave the screen on as it uses a tiny amount of battery.
Give us options to turn off AOD until a notification is received, then turn it on and leave it on forever until notification is dismissed. That's what I need it for. I need to know when I have received a notification!
They might have fixed this issue, as another update was pushed out the other day (RELEASE-2.4.543-09152018)
It seems like the drain when AOD is on is much reduced compared to the previous versions.
I'll know fully after a charge/discharge cycle but it's looking promising.
Hey guys, here are some advices to you to have better battery. I have 10h sot or 1,5 day with gaming.
First, DONT use super or live wallpapers.
Second, go to settings, security, fingerprint, and turn off the last option (i use my phone in portuguese, but it should be something like "show fingerprint icon when you touch or rise screen").
Third, go to settings, lockscreen, and turn off "rise screen to wake" and "double tap to wake"
Fourth, dont use automated cache clear and dont clear your cache everyday. Just do it once a month because android will use battery to rebuild cache
Using xiaomi.eu 12.0.8.0

Touch lag issue when using Adaptive smooothness

I got my Note 20 Ultra back on November and encountered an annoying issue when Adaptive refresh rate is turned on and watching YouTube videos. When YouTube first starts the display will run at 120hz, but after a few seconds it will drop to 60hz. When the refresh rate drops, the first touch of the screen is interpreted as a touch and hold instead of a single press. The display will then jump back to 120hz, but the display still thinks I'm pressing and holding the screen when I've already let go. If I then touch the screen again while in 120hz the phone thinks I've done a double tap (presumable completing the first tap and then immediately registering the second tap), which causes the video to seek forward or backward, depending on where I pressed on the screen the second time. If I tap the screen the one time but allow the screen to drop back to 60hz after it jumps to 120hz from the first tap, then the first tap seems to be ignored as my second tap acts like a tap and hold again.
What's interesting is that as long as the display stays at 120hz, all taps after the scenario above work fine. A single tap will open the playback overlay (pause/play button, seek arrows, etc) like it's supposed to, but once I leave the display alone and it drops to 60hz this whole problem starts all over again. Since adaptive refresh is tied to the brightness sensor, this problem does not present itself in a dark room since the display stays at 120hz in a dark room. Also, if I turn off adaptive refresh rate and have the display stay at 60hz all the time then the problem is not present either. I also will occasionally get non responsiveness on Brave Browser but I can't say for sure if they are related.
This has frustrated me so much I did a factory reset and interestingly the issue did not re-appear at first with a fully updated YouTube. Once I updated/installed other apps (including Galaxy store apps) the problem returned. I don't have display overlay apps installed, so I suspect it's a Galaxy store app but I can't pinpoint which one. I don't believe this is a hardware issue, so I'm curious if anyone on the thread has had a similar issue. I'd like to report this to Samsung but I have no idea where to even report this.
Sounds like you've figured it's a software program. You should update one at a time and see if you can pinpoint the issue. Try to not to install 3rd party software until all you need to update gets updated and phone is working fine.
Or
I would say try using a package disabler and try disabling the apps you suspect to see if any improvements. It might not be a Samsung app as others would be facing the same issue you're having.
As always don't restore settings/app data from backup etc other than media, messages, logs.
I'm using adaptive and everything is working fine on my end. Snapdragon variant here. Albeit I keep a number of Samsung apps disabled as i don't use or need them running in background for no reason.
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Sounds like you've figured it's a software program. You should update one at a time and see if you can pinpoint the issue. Try to not to install 3rd party software until all you need to update gets updated and phone is working fine.
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I would say try using a package disabler and try disabling the apps you suspect to see if any improvements. It might not be a Samsung app as others would be facing the same issue you're having.
As always don't restore settings/app data from backup etc other than media, messages, logs.
I'm using adaptive and everything is working fine on my end. Snapdragon variant here. Albeit I keep a number of Samsung apps disabled as i don't use or need them running in background for no reason.
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have you tried diff version of youtube that can help
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Can you provide a list of apps which you have disabled through adb?
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I use package disabler pro bought from their website. It gives me a great on demand enable/disable option.
My use case might be a bit different from yours as I have about 160 packages disabled at a given time. I guess I can provide a list and you chose what you want from it.
I'll try uninstalling apps again to see if the problem can be resolved that way. On the latest version of Youtube it worked fine before I started installing more apps. I kind of don't want to do a full factory reset but if I have to so I can narrow that my be my only option. I'm wondering if there is another software I can run on my phone to see if any apps are interfering with the display or adaptive refresh rate?
I ended up doing a factory reset on my phone. The issue went away for the most of the day but returned again by night time. Same issue - when at 120hz and drops to 60hz the issue is present. It's not just Youtube, it's on any app, including the home screen. The first tap is always interpreted as a tap and hold, so single tapping an app icon brings up the tap and hold menu, and single tapping on the home screen brings up the home screen customization screen. Another test I did was turn off auto brightness, then turn my brightness down to the lowest setting. After that the display stayed at 120hz and the issue did not return until I either set the brightness up manually or turn auto brightness back on. I also tried in safe mode, and the issue was not present there either, but I can't tell if the device every went into 120hz or not since all 3rd party apps are disabled. At this point I have no idea what it is. The app setup was fine during the day, no new apps were installed, but the issue returned. Seems like I have no choice to but turn adaptive smoothness off and leave it at 60hz.
Just to add a little more interesting information here. I had someone else use the refresh rate monitor app on their Note 20 ultra (Tmobile variant), and their display operates differently than my Verizon variant. On the Tmo variant, when the screen drops to 60hz and the screen is tapped, the refresh rate drops to below 60 (12, 34, 48, etc) but then goes back up to 120hz after the app opens. Mine just goes immediately to 120hz and then gets that tap-and-hold behavior. So clearly the screens software or firmware is behaving differently here. I'm wondering if we have any other Verizon variant Note 20 Ultra users on this forum that could also test?

OnePlus 7 - OxygenOS 11 stable - Issues

Hello,
Recently i upgraded my OnePlus 7 to OxygenOS 11 via OTA, and here is a list of a few annoying bugs(features?) that you'll need to know before upgrading:
(Note: I performed hard reset after upgrading, so any bugs here will be persistent and not because of some fixable issues, unless you are rooted/want to use adb maybe?)
(Also, this is the stock OOS 11, not rooted, and no modifications)
1) I'm not sure if it's just me, but the device heats up much faster. Though the temperatures here are high, I tried to maintain as close to a lab condition as possible, maintaining 30C ambient temp. Evaluation was done with a session of Call of Duty Mobile, and Youtube 4K video loopback test. Avg temps are: CODM : OOS 10: 41C, OOS 11: 45C, Youtube: OOS 10: 37C, OOS 11: 38C
2) Performance hit in games and frame drops (CODM, outside the ambient temperature maintained conditions), could be due to overheating? (As i mentioned, ambient temps are a bit high here). Also SystemUI lags sometimes. Adding to that, trying to bring up notification panel while playing a demanding game (like codm), the SystemUI (notification panel) opening animation is really choppy. (Is there some graphic driver issue?)
3) Brightness slider very slow to respond (seriously? Have to wait for 3 sec for the brightness to come up/go down on manually moving the slider)
4) Again, this one could be only me, but the audio seems to be a bit low after the update. All the ringtones and default notification sounds, with the same volume levels feels lower than how it was on OOS 10.
5) Battery drain - Device heat up and performance issues, translate to higher battery drain
6) This may not be a bug, but it's a change that i don't quite like (at least provide options?) : Double tap to wake doesn't give a vibration feedback like how it used to.
7) Everything, including UI and default font size is bigger than what I'm comfortable with (no, changing the font/display size doesn't give the expected results). But there's a workaround: Changing the display dpi from developer options from 384 to 420.
8) I had several app crashes (Instagram, Photos) even after disabling Android System Webview as suggested by some. But this issue seems to have been fixed magically for now.
9) This is a change, but to actually poweroff/reboot, you will need to reach your finger to the top of the screen with the new UI.
10) DC dimming has been removed
11) Weird QC issue-Someone thought any greyed out field in settings is because it's not supported by phone or HEADSET... Even in Private DNS settings.(See screenshot)
12) Natural colour calibration has a weird yellow tint (sRGB profile works fine tho)
13) Lots of missed/delayed notifications. Many times, notifications from apps like Instagram, Telegram doesn't arrive on time, with delays from 2 minutes to never arriving at all. Whatsapp seems to work most of the time. Sometimes, notifications don't make sound (weird), but only flash on the screen (Yes, I've verified all my notification settings, and I've set everything to make sound)
14) Now this might be a personal preference, but I don't quite like the way OxygenOS is trying to mimic OneUI (Huge heading and small contents beneath? Not my taste.) This style is followed in the phone, messaging, contacts, calculator, etcc
15) Quickly switching between recent apps, there's a split second of a black screen that appear before the app UI is displayed (not complaining, but this was not present in oos10, it seamlessly moved from the preview of the app on the recent apps screen to the actual app ui without any flickering, and no, this is not because of dc dimming being off or anything)
16) Google Play Music is still not removed (seriously, why still have it if it can't be used?)
17) FileDash - No longer has the DNS resolver for one.plus address. You will now have to manually type in the address displayed by filedash in your browser. Also, it still uses 2.4GHz and not 5GHz.
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Hem981,
I can confirm #7 is an issue on mine as well.
The power menu is an android 11 change not an OOS change.
I upgraded from OOS 10 to OOS 11 no wipe and don't seem to experience the other issues that you are having, except the obvious changes they made to the firmware. Have you tried clearing the dalvik-cache and rebooting? Mine was super buggy before doing this, but then again I just upgraded without wiping.
One issue I've personally noticed is the cell radios were a lot better on OOS 10, and I'm assuming that is the cause of the battery life to be worse.
Another that could be due to doing some debloating is when I take a screenshot and the little preview pops up in the bottom right corner if i click on it the UI will freeze after clicking back. The Nav buttons still work, like you can click on recents and the recent menu appears, back and home work but the screen is frozen otherwise until I force a reboot.
Yeah, I've tried factory reset and then wiping dalvik-cache... The performance was better before i performed the factory reset, i think. Anyway, there are quite a few games/apps where the performance impact is easily visible. Also, the power button thing is an Android change, but i really hoped OnePlus to have done something to make it more easily accessible (OOS is not pure Android). I couldn't find the issue with the cell radio you mentioned (as I've tried in areas in which i already had poor reception, and the performance was what was expected). Anyway, I really hope some of these (at least the performance, battery drain and the brightness slider issue) will be fixed soon over updates.
(For me, the SOT has gone down from 9.5 hours to 7 hours under similar use cases)
Yeah SOT has definitely taken a hit on mine as well, standby time seems the same. I also have noticed that the screen brightness needs to be set higher for the same brightness as OOS 10. The cell radio sometimes seem normal, but most of the time they are about 5-10 dBm higher at my house. I'll probably give a clean flash a try this weekend to see if it clears up.
One more issue found:
Weird red tint on screen auto dimming
The whole display has a weird red tint just before the device is about to lock/turn off screen after the timeout, when the display dims. It is easily noticeable if you have a white screen displayed. It only happens if you have set the brightness slider to anything other than the bare minimum (even a single step above the minimum brightness is able to replicate this issue)
I found something interesting: issue #3, the brightness slider being slow to respond to changes, seems to be fixed by disabling all animations from developer options. Should the window animator duration scale have any effect on the responsiveness/quickness of display brightness adjustment? I think that's stupid.
Also, I am starting to thing we need something like 0.1x duration scale for the animations (all animations on Android, or at least OOS), because honestly, with each new implementation, the animations are being too slow that it degrades the whole experience. 0.5x feels a bit better, but i really think something like 0.4x would match the animation speed of android 10.
You forgot to mention the vibration motor effect which has deteriorated since the update. The device now feels like any other cheap device.
It's kinda weird in my situation, just upgrading from 10.3.8 using an old version of xXx NoLimits to 11.0.0. The phone was super buggy when I first installed, but after rooting, wiping the delvik cache, debloating, removing the xXx module, and time to settle in the only issues I have are the screenshot popup, and the lower cell signal which I'm sure is causing a hit on battery life.
I was going to reinstall this past weekend, but for the time and inconvenience it's not worth the time compared to the minor issues I have.
Edit: Even the screen resolution seems normal now.
Again, don't know if this is an issue for anyone else (and i don't think OnePlus is going to change this): While everything else became bigger on the phone, the buttons/number keypad for typing in the screen lock pin became too small.
Hem981 said:
Hello,
Recently i upgraded my OnePlus 7 to OxygenOS 11 via OTA, and here is a list of a few annoying bugs(features?) that you'll need to know before upgrading:
(Note: I performed hard reset after upgrading, so any bugs here will be persistent and not because of some fixable issues, unless you are rooted/want to use adb maybe?)
(Also, this is the stock OOS 11, not rooted, and no modifications)
1) I'm not sure if it's just me, but the device heats up much faster. Though the temperatures here are high, I tried to maintain as close to a lab condition as possible, maintaining 30C ambient temp. Evaluation was done with a session of Call of Duty Mobile, and Youtube 4K video loopback test. Avg temps are: CODM : OOS 10: 41C, OOS 11: 45C, Youtube: OOS 10: 37C, OOS 11: 38C
2) Performance hit in games and frame drops (CODM, outside the ambient temperature maintained conditions), could be due to overheating? (As i mentioned, ambient temps are a bit high here). Also SystemUI lags sometimes. Adding to that, trying to bring up notification panel while playing a demanding game (like codm), the SystemUI (notification panel) opening animation is really choppy. (Is there some graphic driver issue?)
3) Brightness slider very slow to respond (seriously? Have to wait for 3 sec for the brightness to come up/go down on manually moving the slider)
4) Again, this one could be only me, but the audio seems to be a bit low after the update. All the ringtones and default notification sounds, with the same volume levels feels lower than how it was on OOS 10.
5) Battery drain - Device heat up and performance issues, translate to higher battery drain
6) This may not be a bug, but it's a change that i don't quite like (at least provide options?) : Double tap to wake doesn't give a vibration feedback like how it used to.
7) Everything, including UI and default font size is bigger than what I'm comfortable with (no, changing the font/display size doesn't give the expected results). But there's a workaround: Changing the display dpi from developer options from 384 to 420.
8) I had several app crashes (Instagram, Photos) even after disabling Android System Webview as suggested by some. But this issue seems to have been fixed magically for now.
9) This is a change, but to actually poweroff/reboot, you will need to reach your finger to the top of the screen with the new UI.
10) DC dimming has been removed
11) Weird QC issue-Someone thought any greyed out field in settings is because it's not supported by phone or HEADSET... Even in Private DNS settings.(See screenshot)
12) Natural colour calibration has a weird yellow tint (sRGB profile works fine tho)
13) Lots of missed/delayed notifications. Many times, notifications from apps like Instagram, Telegram doesn't arrive on time, with delays from 2 minutes to never arriving at all. Whatsapp seems to work most of the time. Sometimes, notifications don't make sound (weird), but only flash on the screen (Yes, I've verified all my notification settings, and I've set everything to make sound)
14) Now this might be a personal preference, but I don't quite like the way OxygenOS is trying to mimic OneUI (Huge heading and small contents beneath? Not my taste.) This style is followed in the phone, messaging, contacts, calculator, etcc
15) Quickly switching between recent apps, there's a split second of a black screen that appear before the app UI is displayed (not complaining, but this was not present in oos10, it seamlessly moved from the preview of the app on the recent apps screen to the actual app ui without any flickering, and no, this is not because of dc dimming being off or anything)
16) Google Play Music is still not removed (seriously, why still have it if it can't be used?)
17) FileDash - No longer has the DNS resolver for one.plus address. You will now have to manually type in the address displayed by filedash in your browser. Also, it still uses 2.4GHz and not 5GHz.
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Hi! Oneplus 7 ownere here.
Try to answer all the points:
1) i don't notice any difference between OOS10 and OOS10 on the heat of the phone
2) I don't know for the gaming performance but i don't play any games...overall, the performance are good, no system lags or freeze BUT I have the same issues with the notification...when i tap a notification, I often have delay, maybe it's just the animation but I remember the same issue on a Oneplus 8t that i tried for 20 days in last November
3) same issue here, very annoying
4) not just you, have same issue
5) battery drain is the same in my case, in standby maybe is less than before
6) me too, but maybe they change this as they planned?
7) yes, same thing. i changed the DPI from developer options too
8) no crashes here
9) this is an Android 11 change from Google, maybe they don't want your device to power off ahahah
10) never had this problem luckily
11) don't know, never tried this
12) i noticed this after reading this point, true on my device too
13) i faced the same issue on the notification sound, the other things works fine
14) me too, if i wanted One UI, i would have bought a Samsung...
15) sometimes happens to me, maybe it's bad ram management?
16) this is ridicolous, why they doesn't remove this app??
17) never tried
I also have an issue on the vibration. Now it's HORRIBLE, i have disabled because it's unusable
So, this is my question: change phone or rollback on android 10?
There's one more addition to the list: Always on display sometimes seems to override the notification lockscreen privacy settings. I have some notifications put as "view private content only when unlocked", but the notification contents are visible just when it arrives on the always on display (though it's content is hidden in the actual lockscreen)
I've reported almost all of these bugs, and hopefully we will see new updates fixing most of these.
Can someone on OOS 10 on OnePlus 7 confirm if the "style preferences" settings in sound settings is greyed out while the output is phone speakers (or no other sound output devices connected)?
New hotfix patch OTA rolling out now...
Here is what's fixed and what's not:
1,2 : Yet to test
3: Not fixed
4:Fixed
5: Yet to test
6: No changes
7: No changes(or not easily noticeable maybe?)
8: Not encountered any "ghost" app crashes yet
9: No change
10: DC Dimming is not back, so no change
11: Not fixed Is it that hard to remove 'headset' text from the UI?
12: Don't know if it's because my eyes adjusted to it, but it seems a bit better now
13: Not yet tested
14: What can I say?
15: Fixed
16: The ghost of Google Play Music still remains
17: Not fixed
Edits: Nothing much is fixed
Performance: Marginal improvements
SoT/Battery: Even worse. Getting almost half the SoT I got on OOS 10 under similar use case and network/tenperature conditions
Ghost app crashes reduced a lot (that might be the only fix) , but is not completely gone (saw that 1 or 2 times)
Haptics is still as bad as before
I'm just worried about this weired bug which has rendered my parallel whatsapp very difficult to use to share media. Any fix for this is highly appreciated - https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/whatsapp-media-problem.1411292/
Thanks and regards
OOS11 - Stable
I have no problems on my device until now (for games I dont know why I do not play)
I noticed, because I have tried both roms(beta4 & stable).Open Beta4 has better "battery management" than stable! Αs strange as it may seem but is a real for me..
Well yes .Battery drain higher than openbeta4
wifi works fine to 5ghz band & generally my device works quite well so far. Patience is needed and all problems will be fixed...
https://postimg.cc/gallery/YtQpVDm
After the recent OS 11 update ,the media in my device ( photos and videos) not being shown properly in Whatsapp. Some of the videos and pictures which I've already deleted in the gallery are appearing again only in whatsapp in unsupported file format.
I'll be glad if someone confirms that it's a bug in OOS 11.0.2 and that my phone is not the only one which is affected.
I'm using WhatsApp and Parallel Whatsapp. Also have setup a Work/Office profile on my phone.
Does anyone have any solution to this issue?
Thanks and regards!
For me, wifi no longer works. Whenever I try to enable it, it just immediately turns off. It also no longer recognizes my SIM card.
itdiestoday said:
For me, wifi no longer works. Whenever I try to enable it, it just immediately turns off. It also no longer recognizes my SIM card.
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Try wiping cache from recovery
Update 11.0.1.1
I feel like this is a big joke.
Even more battery drain (yes, i did a factory reset).
Brightness slider issue still not fixed.
Performance still degraded (but i think there is a little bit of improvement)
Not sure about Wifi issues as i never had them.
Weird red tint on screen dimming
Still many ugly and inconsistent ui elements
Color profile is back to being broken (the yellow tint returned)
Update: I've started having the wifi disconnection issues, after 11.0.1.1 update. This is way too annoying.

Question Rotation lag

Hi,
anyone noticing lag in the rotation animation? Most of the time the first time is pretty smooth. When changing rotation a few times thereafter the animations look more like 60 fps (although 120 is activated). Tried it in different apps. Always the same and really annoying and ugly.
Can anybody confirm this?
This issue goes way back. Even my 10+ does it.
Might have to do with the sensor refresh rate and/or degree of tilt/time at tilt/yaw.
If it takes more then a second there's definitely a fault issue.
Mmh. Actually I didn't recognize this when using my S20 with 120hz. At least not that much. So there's nothing that can improve the experience? I even thought the phone didn't have this behavior from the start which led to the question if I have something fishy installed. But there's nothing out of the ordinary. It's the same when using stock launcher or Ruthless launcher.
Be interested if there was a way to make it more responsive. This aspect of the device's behavior is slow by comparison to it's otherwise snappy performance. It is irritating... I hate waiting.
It's about .5-1 second on the N10+ in Brave browser and elsewhere.
I'm going to go through accessibility settings again. It's likely a user hidden setting though.
Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
KOLIOSIS said:
Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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Yeap, no joy
KOLIOSIS said:
Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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For me the problem is that it looks sluggish as if the phone struggles to display the 120 Hz. Setting the transition scale to 0.5 or 0 doesn't do it for me. Makes it even more unsatisfying.
Cris7ianO said:
For me the problem is that it looks sluggish as if the phone struggles to display the 120 Hz. Setting the transition scale to 0.5 or 0 doesn't do it for me. Makes it even more unsatisfying.
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It has nothing to do with your refresh rate or does it? It so there may be some hope.
Like I said though both my N10+'s behave this way, it's normal... and irritating.
blackhawk said:
It has nothing to do with your refresh rate or does it? It so there may be some hope.
Like I said though both my N10+'s behave this way, it's normal... and irritating.
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Honestly it looks like the phone is struggling to keep it on 120hz when rotating. When I choose 60hz and rotate the phone it looks the same way constantly. That's why I'm thinking it has something to do with the frame rate. So in my case it's not about a delay for the animation it's about the smoothness.
Cris7ianO said:
Honestly it looks like the phone is struggling to keep it on 120hz when rotating. When I choose 60hz and rotate the phone it looks the same way constantly. That's why I'm thinking it has something to do with the frame rate. So in my case it's not about a delay for the animation it's about the smoothness.
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What I'm talking about is how long it takes to flip the screen to landscape once the phone's flipped. Close to 1 second.
I always disable all animations as it wastes resources plus I like the snap.
Lol, if it needs animations, it's too slow.
Cris7ianO said:
Hi,
anyone noticing lag in the rotation animation? Most of the time the first time is pretty smooth. When changing rotation a few times thereafter the animations look more like 60 fps (although 120 is activated). Tried it in different apps. Always the same and really annoying and ugly.
Can anybody confirm this?
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Sounds like something might be bogging it down.
I have the obligatory delay when rotating (because you have a ton of redraws happening on top of the actual animation itself, not some accessibility setting), but it is minimal. That aside, the rotation is smooth with animation set to 0.5 and adaptive motion smoothness.
The difference between your previous S20, my previous Note 20, and the Z Flip 3 is the lost RAM. This is an 8GB device, compared to 12GB or 16GB from last year. After some time getting used to being able to launch a bunch of stuff, it is easy to forget that this one can't run quite as much at once.
The only sure way to stop that completely without having to keep tabs on how much is running would be Developer options -> Don't keep activities or setting Background process limit, both of which come with some downsides.
If it is happening with a single app running after multiple turns, that could indicate an issue with the GPU. It could be as simple as poor cache handling that will be resolved with an update or a clean start. It could also be a hardware issue.
twistedumbrella said:
Sounds like something might be bogging it down.
I have the obligatory delay when rotating (because you have a ton of redraws happening on top of the actual animation itself, not some accessibility setting), but it is minimal. That aside, the rotation is smooth with animation set to 0.5 and adaptive motion smoothness.
The difference between your previous S20, my previous Note 20, and the Z Flip 3 is the lost RAM. This is an 8GB device, compared to 12GB or 16GB from last year. After some time getting used to being able to launch a bunch of stuff, it is easy to forget that this one can't run quite as much at once.
The only sure way to stop that completely without having to keep tabs on how much is running would be Developer options -> Don't keep activities or setting Background process limit, both of which come with some downsides.
If it is happening with a single app running after multiple turns, that could indicate an issue with the GPU. It could be as simple as poor cache handling that will be resolved with an update or a clean start. It could also be a hardware issue.
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This sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. The S20 with 12 GB indeed hadn't any of those issues, at least not to that extent. In addition I don't have that issue permanently. It only occurs from time to time. Haven't got an update since release. Hopefully it gets an improvement in the near future as it is disturbing. Nevertheless it is a joke that something like that happens even with 8 GB of RAM.
Cris7ianO said:
This sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. The S20 with 12 GB indeed hadn't any of those issues, at least not to that extent. In addition I don't have that issue permanently. It only occurs from time to time. Haven't got an update since release. Hopefully it gets an improvement in the near future as it is disturbing. Nevertheless it is a joke that something like that happens even with 8 GB of RAM.
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Do you use split screen apps? The only time i've really come across the issue was trying to run both a game and the browser with a couple other apps still in the background.
I think an update will definitely help, though. It seems like the 8GB on this is a larger step down than it should be right now and it is supposed to be a much better GPU.
twistedumbrella said:
Do you use split screen apps? The only time i've really come across the issue was trying to run both a game and the browser with a couple other apps still in the background.
I think an update will definitely help, though. It seems like the 8GB on this is a larger step down than it should be right now and it is supposed to be a much better GPU.
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No, I don't really use split screen apps. Hopefully an update will help. The device definitely has some obvious tradeoffs but in general it feels fresh and I really like it.
Just an update from my side: Indeed my inner feeling wasn't wrong. I just encountered the sluggish rotation again. Thereafter I went to developer settings and enabled show refresh rate. I went back and tried rotation again. The first time all is fine and it shows 120, but the times thereafter it jumped to 60 Hz when rotating. And if course my eyes will notice this behavior as they are used to 120. Hopefully this will get fixed. This has to be software related.
So this behavior is due to the adaptive refresh rate. It's there a way to force 120 all the time?
Cris7ianO said:
Just an update from my side: Indeed my inner feeling wasn't wrong. I just encountered the sluggish rotation again. Thereafter I went to developer settings and enabled show refresh rate. I went back and tried rotation again. The first time all is fine and it shows 120, but the times thereafter it jumped to 60 Hz when rotating. And if course my eyes will notice this behavior as they are used to 120. Hopefully this will get fixed. This has to be software related.
So this behavior is due to the adaptive refresh rate. It's there a way to force 120 all the time?
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[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Control: Easily control the max refresh rate (Hz) of android devices with multiple refresh rates (e.g. note20 ultra, s20/S20+/S20Ultra, z fold 2, s21/s21+/s21Ultra, tab S7/S7+, z fold 3, z flip 3). This app can limit...
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Pretty sure that would be able to handle it for you.
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[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Control: Easily control the max refresh rate (Hz) of android devices with multiple refresh rates (e.g. note20 ultra, s20/S20+/S20Ultra, z fold 2, s21/s21+/s21Ultra, tab S7/S7+, z fold 3, z flip 3). This app can limit...
forum.xda-developers.com
Pretty sure that would be able to handle it for you.
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I tried this app and I am not fully satisfied with the outcome. Of course forcing 120hz will train the small battery even more and I don't want to be dependant on a 3rd party solution. Just to confirm the behavior is not only on my end, can you please test the following on your device?
1. Go to developer options and enable show refresh rate
2. Go in following apps: e.g. Whatsapp, Facebook, Google Play, Samsung Internet, Amazon Shopping (cause I don't face this issue on all apps)
3. In each app wait a few seconds four the refresh rate to go down to 60 and then rotate the screen (In my case the refresh rate stays at 60 when rotating in the mentioned apps and this looks horrible when the rest is running on 120hz)
If you could borrow a few minutes of your time to check that would be awesome and is very appreciated Thanks in advance!
Update: Just to be sure I did a factory reset. Still no improvement...
Further investigation gave me more information. There is something weird going on. When display brightness is low (around 10-15%) there is no issue for the phone keeping 120 while rotating. When I go up in brightness the 60hz rotation is back again. This is horrible. I've had a look on the new iPhone 13 pro and Apple doesn't have these issues with their adaptive screen. As I had the S20 before and skipped the s21 with the adaptive one this Flip is my first Samsung device with an adaptive screen. The experience is horrible. I just want a compact android device without such a compromise. This is ridiculous.

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